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Matt Jones
This is Matt and Myron the podcast.
Myron Metcalf
Hard to describe the feeling this all began back in July. For the players, it's a year round job for them. This is what they all battle for. What they fight for, they go through the pain for. Fight for the guy beside you. Fight for everybody. Holmes backpedaling wats. What a throw by Mahomes. Give me everything you got today, man. Fighting for the end zone. What a run. Touchdown Philadelphia.
Matt Jones
This is Super Countdown to kickoff on ESPN Radio. Now alongside Myron Metcalf, here's Matt Jones.
Myron Metcalf
Super Countdown to kick off. One hour left here as we continue to get ready for the super bowl tonight. What was that? Are you liking that intro making no.
Unnamed Co-Host
We have more than an hour. We have more than an hour.
Myron Metcalf
We have an hour left of our show.
Unnamed Co-Host
No, we have an hour and a half.
Myron Metcalf
Oh, we go to 1:30.
Unnamed Co-Host
Yeah.
Myron Metcalf
Oh, was anybody gonna tell me that?
Unnamed Co-Host
I've told you multiple times this week. It's like an hour. Are you leaving?
Myron Metcalf
Maybe you leaving?
Unnamed Co-Host
I don't know.
Myron Metcalf
I'm supposed to be my parents for lunch at 1:15. Did. Nobody did.
Unnamed Co-Host
Sorry. Myrnal driving Will put his voice on. Wait, hold on a second.
Unnamed Caller
I guess we're having Matt's.
Myron Metcalf
My parents are in town and I'm supposed to meet him for lunch at 1:15.
Unnamed Co-Host
You're going to be on the show to 1:30.
Myron Metcalf
Well, what do I tell my parents?
Unnamed Co-Host
You got to check. Is it a reservation?
Myron Metcalf
Well, but they are here from out of town. Myron, what am I supposed to do?
Unnamed Co-Host
And one and one thing I know like my parents like this too. You don't want to make a last minute change to like they're planning right.
Myron Metcalf
Now during the break. Somebody should have told me we were going to one thing.
Unnamed Co-Host
I swear I told you if I.
Myron Metcalf
Did tell me I did not know that we were going to 1/3.
Unnamed Co-Host
How did Myron know I did exactly?
Myron Metcalf
Myron, first of all, Myron gets the ESPN emails. I don't get them. I mean my parents are going to be sitting at this restaurant. They're Going to be sitting there with the white tablecloth.
Unnamed Co-Host
Like, what am I going to do? What's the rule on that though? I mean, do they get to eat?
Myron Metcalf
I can't stand up my parents.
Unnamed Co-Host
No, but do they get, if they get there ahead of you, do they get to order?
Myron Metcalf
Can he do 1130 with Myers?
Unnamed Co-Host
Did they get to.
Myron Metcalf
Do they get.
Unnamed Co-Host
To start without you? Like, how does that work, man?
Myron Metcalf
No, man, I can't. My dad is 80. He's 87 years old. I can't.
Unnamed Co-Host
Oh yeah, they're, you know, they're not gonna change. They're getting ready, right? Like my parents. They're getting ready right now.
Myron Metcalf
First of all, my parents are probably already there. Honestly. Cause they don't want to give the table away.
Unnamed Co-Host
That's a real thing though, right? Like older people.
Myron Metcalf
My parents are already sitting there at the restaurant.
Unnamed Co-Host
If you tell about that 1:00 and you're not there at 12:30, you are late.
Myron Metcalf
And I don't know what I'm gonna do. See if there's somebody else around here who could do the last 30 minutes. Now dating back to Super Bowl 39.
Unnamed Co-Host
How far is the restaurant?
Myron Metcalf
It's five minute walk. That's why I was gonna walk.
Unnamed Co-Host
Oh, you're walking there.
Myron Metcalf
I was going to. Although I guess I'm gonna be here till six in the evening.
Unnamed Co-Host
I mean the show, the show will end at like 1 26, 25 and then you'll be there.
Myron Metcalf
You gotta do it by yourself.
Unnamed Co-Host
I was hoping you got a scooter or something.
Myron Metcalf
I was hoping you'd step up and say, you know what, man, I'll do it.
Unnamed Co-Host
No, I'll do it.
Unnamed Caller
Call the restaurant, send over an appetizer and tell them you'll be there a little bit late.
Myron Metcalf
I want you to look at, look my 87 year old father. And he's sitting there all sad. Why is he.
Unnamed Co-Host
Now you gotta go.
Myron Metcalf
For real.
Unnamed Co-Host
You gotta do. You gotta go.
Myron Metcalf
Yeah.
Unnamed Co-Host
We'll end it without you. Seriously.
Myron Metcalf
All right. Dating back to Super Bowl 39, somebody should tell people when the show goes to 130. The Super Bowl 39. In the 2004 season, the team that wore the white Jerseys has won 16 of the last 20 Super Bowls. But the team that has worn the red jerseys has won two. And that was the Chiefs. Now who is wearing the white jersey today? Nick, you put the Chiefs are. The Chiefs are. So they have won 16 of the 20 Super Bowls. So think about this. The white jersey won 16 to 20 and the four that didn't win two times. It was a cheap. So that stat seems to be very cheefy. Patrick Mahomes is one of three players with super three Super Bowls and two NFL MVPs. He'd be the fastest in history to have four Super Bowls and two MVPs. So you got that. But Jalen Hurts will be the first starting quarterback to lose a Super bowl debut, then make another one since Jim Kelly. Nobody else has lost their super bowl debut and come back and played in again since Jim Kelly, who of course then kept losing them.
Unnamed Co-Host
Yeah.
Myron Metcalf
With all of those stats, this is kind of a historic game. Iron of a lot of things that we don't see a lot in the NFL taking place. Yeah.
Unnamed Co-Host
And Jalen Hurts wants to be on the right side, like, of some of those stats. Right. Like you go in and if you beat Mahomes, that's putting you in Eli Manning territory. Right. Like, all of a sudden what you do going forward because you beat a guy who will be considered a goat to this generation is going to put you in a strong spot for hall of Fame consideration. So it means a lot because we know that's not. Quarterbacks are judged. It's also just interesting with Mahomes and how young he is, man. Because if we watch Brady, and again, he was obsessive about everything he did related to football and how he took care of his body, do this. Into his early 40s, Mahomes has been healthy, you know, finds a way to avoid big hits. Technology will continue to improve. Like, what if all of a sudden he's doing this till 43, 44, 45.
Myron Metcalf
Well, the question is how much do you. I mean, it's interesting with a guy like Mahomes because if you look at the quarterbacks we've seen throughout history that have played into their, you know, older ages and been good. Brady's obviously the best example, but Joe Montana played a long time.
Unnamed Co-Host
Yep.
Myron Metcalf
They tended to be pretty stationary guys who didn't put their body on the line. It's going to be interesting to see now we have this whole new generation. Lamar is one of them. Mahomes not quite as much of a putting the bodies on his line as Lamar, but it'll be interesting to see if that same longevity can be for guys like that. You use the example of LeBron. I mean, LeBron puts his body on the line all the time and he's still playing. So maybe that's just what these future generations will do.
Unnamed Co-Host
It may be. I actually think the mobility that'll come into play right. When these guys take big hits, as the athletes get bigger, stronger, faster. The other factor, Matt, is going to be these guys gonna make a billion dollars, man.
Myron Metcalf
That's true.
Unnamed Co-Host
I mean, like. Like, that's gonna be. The other thing is, like, if.
Myron Metcalf
If you're motivated to do it. Yeah.
Unnamed Co-Host
35. Like, how much more do you want to do?
Myron Metcalf
LeBron's still playing, and, I mean, he is literally a billionaire. Yeah.
Unnamed Co-Host
But he's. I don't think. I wonder if the next generation will do that. Right. Like, I wonder if the younger guys who are just going to make so much money if they feel like they want to play into their late 30s, early 40s, so even more so.
Myron Metcalf
I mean, football even more than basketball.
Unnamed Co-Host
Yeah.
Myron Metcalf
You're literally putting your body on the line. I mean, you're one hit away from an injury that might leave you limping your entire life. Myron. Like, there is, I think, a sense, like, that's got to play into Travis Kelsey's mind a little bit. I mean, he is at a position where people get, you know, they get knocked up. I mean, they get absolutely destroyed at that position. He may just be like, do I want to keep doing this and be limping around for 40 years? But.
Unnamed Co-Host
But what was interesting, though, Matt, is he was criticized, remember the last couple of summers, because he was flying to Europe to go hang out with Taylor. He was doing the podcast, and people were upset. They were saying, no, you got to be focused on football. I think this generation, more than the other generation is focused on life after football, especially because they can make so much money after football in ways that you couldn't before, unless you were on Fox as a broadcaster or something like that. So I think he's certainly a guy they win the day. I think he rides off to the sunset with Taylor, and they start their new life.
Myron Metcalf
Let's let. Let me look at Jalen hurts for just a second. I mean, you know, there was a time two years ago where if we were ranking the five best quarterbacks in the NFL, we certainly would have put him on the list. I don't think he's on that list now to most people. People probably would put him in the top 10, maybe somewhere eight through 10. If he wins today, I do think it changes the way people look at him. I don't know that he'll jump into the Mahomesboro Allen group, but he might very well jump into that next group. And even towards the top of it, this is. If you're just talking about how we look at a player. I mean, if Mahomes loses today, he's still going to be looked at as the best. But if Hertz wins today, he has a chance to really, I think, change the way he's looked at by people in the NFL world.
Unnamed Co-Host
Eli Manning, you know, again, I know he wasn't a Hall of Famer at this round, but it matters who you beat, Right. It matters who you get in a moment like this. And if you beat Patrick Mahomes, I think a lot of people are going to say that elevates Jalen Hurts back into that top six or seven category. Right. He doesn't necessarily have the finesse or. Or the skill set of a Lamar, Josh Allen or Joe Burrow, but I think he'd be the top quarterback in a lot of people's minds in that next group, as you mentioned. But to me. And no, you hate the word legacy, but you beat Mahomes, all you got to do is just be a good quarterback for the next five to seven years. You're in the hall of Fame. I think so. I think that's what's on the line for Jayla Hurts.
Myron Metcalf
Yeah. There is a sense of the guys, you know, you'll. Eli, the number one line in his biography is beat Brady twice in the Super Bowl. I think Jalen Hurts has a chance to do that same thing where people go beat Patrick Mahomes in a Super bowl, you know, because the first time it was very early in his career. And then Brady beat him in the championship game. Brady and Burrow, but they're both considered great. It is a chance. I mean, that would be the biggest notch on the Jalen Hurts resume.
Unnamed Co-Host
It would be. And it's. It's also important to note, you know, since we're having this Eli Manning conversation about whether or not he should be a Hall of Famer. He was Super Bowl MVP in both of those games. So I do think how Jalen Hurts performs in this game matters, too.
Myron Metcalf
Thing doesn't appeal to me. Like. Like, I don't. You know, that doesn't. It's not as big a deal. Matters the MVP is because I think.
Unnamed Co-Host
Such a only as one.
Myron Metcalf
Yeah. People. People vote for that in like five minutes after the game is over. It just feels like not something that historically is as important as some of these other things.
Unnamed Co-Host
But he wasn't incidental to what happens. My point.
Myron Metcalf
No, that's true.
Unnamed Co-Host
There's a world where I think people think Jalen Hurts could be because Saquon could have a big game, because the defense could have a big game.
Myron Metcalf
So that's my one person writes. Matt, I think it's really rude of your producers not to tell you that the show was going to 1/3.
Unnamed Co-Host
They did tell you though.
Myron Metcalf
You cannot leave your parents sitting at the restaurant as they are waiting for their son to eat lunch. Yeah, I wouldn't say. I, I mean it would have been nice if Nick and Mike, they told you. I knew, but it would have been nice. But I'm not gonna blame them. Although it would have been nice if they had told me. Josh Allen has won his first mvp. But did he deserve it? Would you have voted for Allen or Lamar? We'll do that debate. That's Next here on ESPN Radio.
Matt Jones
Super Week 2025 on ESPN Radio.
Myron Metcalf
What a run. Touchdown Saquon Barkley.
Matt Jones
The latest news.
Myron Metcalf
You beat that team. You have really accomplished.
Matt Jones
Loss predictions and reaction. Super Week 2025 live from New Orleans, Louisiana, continues on ESPN Radio. Brought to you by GNC and Verizon. Matt and Myron, the podcast.
Myron Metcalf
And the beast is in the end zone. Josh Allen in on a one yard touchdown sneak. We have a new mvp.
Unnamed Sports Commentator
Bill Star Josh Allen wins his first most valuable player award, etching out Lamar.
Myron Metcalf
Jackson, the most valuable player to their.
Unnamed Co-Host
Team in this case.
Myron Metcalf
Was it necessarily Lamar? It was Josh Allen.
Unnamed Co-Host
And I know this is an individual.
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Myron Metcalf
It is Super Cap down to kickoff here on ESPN Radio presented by progressive insurance folks writing in Myron volunteering to do the last 30 minutes of the show.
Unnamed Co-Host
Tell them to call.
Myron Metcalf
One person writes, tell Myron I would be a good co host. I can do the same thing you do, but probably better. And Myron and I would vibe so well, invite them.
Unnamed Co-Host
So the last 30 minutes of the show.
Myron Metcalf
Oh, so you want to take the last 30 minutes. Is it like co host with Myron?
Unnamed Co-Host
Not like a co host audition.
Myron Metcalf
There you go.
Unnamed Co-Host
We'll give you, we'll give you perfect. Maybe a minute to two minutes. You can audition to be a fill in host on the show.
Myron Metcalf
Here's your chance if you've ever wanted to make it in sports radio. Yeah, I will not open the phones yet because I don't want people at the hole for 45 minutes. But then the last 30 minutes, it's like, maybe it won't be Sunday mornings with Matt Myron. Maybe it'll be Sunday mornings with Pat and Myron or Sunday mornings with Beatrice and Myron. It could be anybody. You can have your chance there. And Myron is nice enough to let me go see my parents. Who would be sad, Myron. And you don't want to make my mom sad on. No, on Mother's Day.
Unnamed Co-Host
No, I mostly, I mostly don't trust. Like you said, you're walking. You're not just going, you know, drop the head headset and walk like you gonna, you know, get a snack and change your clothes. You're gonna see your shoes as you're walking out the door. You're not gonna like them. So you're gonna go back and change my shoes already.
Myron Metcalf
I got yellow, I got the Travis Scott canaries on today, so don't you.
Unnamed Co-Host
Worry, you'll be downtown.
Myron Metcalf
Hey, we got some news here. Adam Schefter is reporting that the 49ers have granted Debo Samuel and his agent permission to find a trade partner for the wide receiver. Were you surprised at that at all? You think that's, you know, you think they'll be able to find someone to take Debo?
Unnamed Co-Host
Maybe. I mean, it feels like his value just has gone down, you know, like last year was an opportunity for him with all the injuries and I don't know that he was great. So, yeah, I mean, good luck. But it's not, I don't think, not.
Myron Metcalf
The value it would have been a year ago.
Unnamed Co-Host
And I don't know. I don't think Debo changes a team anymore. I don't think he's viewed.
Myron Metcalf
I don't either, which is odd because there was a moment that he did, but I do think that moment has passed. All right, so the Buffalo Bills, Josh Allen won the MVP award. Probably the first MVP in some time. Myron, where I think it was like a question as to who was going to win going into it. Lamar had kind of made up some ground there at the end of the year. Obviously the, the Josh Allen had won the game when they played each other, but people had already voted at that point, so you didn't know. I mean, that wasn't going to be taken into credit. Josh Allen became the first player in 21 seasons to capture MVP, but he was out not named first team all pro, which is kind of unique. That doesn't happen a lot. Since the MVP was first handed out in 1957, the only other players to win the award beside when they weren't all pro were John elway and Steve McNair. Were you surprised at Josh Allen winning and was it the right choice?
Unnamed Co-Host
I wasn't surprised. I mean, I think four guys had a legitimate case and you could have made a strong case for any of them. Lamar and Josh at the top, I thought Saquon right behind them had they squeezed into the playoffs. Joe Burrow, you know, but if it's just about numbers, Burrow was in that conversation. I wasn't surprised. I mean, there was a chunk of the season where it was Josh Allen and Lamar was playing so great. And I do think it comes down to, in moments like that, a, we've talked about it, the third MVP thing, you know, Yokage has dealt with that in the NBA. Probably would deal with it again, even though SGA is tops right now. Um, I think people don't like giving that third mvp, especially in a short span to a player. I think the post season matters as well. I mean, these are just human beings voting and I think Lamar's post season failures have factored into how people view him. That's not necessarily fair for an MVP race, but in a subjective conversation those things happen. So it didn't shock me. I think Josh Allen deserves It. I don't think there's a strong argument against it. It's more of preference, I think, between which kind of performance appealed most to you.
Myron Metcalf
I think if, if Josh, if Lamar Jackson had not won the last two, he might won this one. Right. Like, I do think there's a sense it's sort of like in the NBA with Jokic this year. Like the standard he has to hit to get it is significantly higher because he won the last two. If he hadn't won the last two, I think it would clearly be him this year. Now we'll see. Might be sga, might be whatever. Because he won the last two. I think that's kind of what happened to Lamar here. But I also think both these dudes had an amazing year. Right. I mean, Allen had 28 pass touchdowns, 12 rushing touchdowns, only six interceptions. He's the first guy to have 25 touchdowns passing, 10 rushing, and fewer than 10 interceptions ever in a season. Right. He's also the first player in history to get 4,000 passing yards and 800 rushing yards in a season. So even though Lamar had his career high in passing, rushing, touchdowns, yards per attempt, I mean, everything, this was Lamar's best season. I think when you had a reasonable case for Josh Allen, just the natural. I want to see somebody else get it, Myron is going to lead to the result you got. Yeah.
Unnamed Co-Host
And I think that's, that's the more like accurate representation of what happened. You know, I think you had two strong contenders at the top and both had a case. You know, Josh Allen losing what he lost in the off season, still positioning this team to go and beat Kansas City to be in the playoff picture, I think that mattered. And certainly what Lamar did, having the greatest season of his career factored into that conversation as well.
Myron Metcalf
One person writes me and says, matt, do you think in the history of ESPN radio or any radio, there's ever been a caller that was so good that they became a figure on the show and a host? You know, I don't know, but I bet that's happened. Don't you think there's probably been a caller sometime that has called in, like people can do with you at 1:00 and done such a good job that the next thing you know, that was their career. You think that's ever happened?
Unnamed Caller
Happened to WFAN in New York, Joe Bidingo, the overnighter, he was calling in and was so good and he got a gig.
Unnamed Co-Host
Yeah, I've called the shows that I hosted before.
Myron Metcalf
Well, what was it later you said Joe Bidingo.
Unnamed Caller
Yeah, Joe Bidengo.
Unnamed Co-Host
I sound like a made up name, by the way.
Unnamed Caller
And he used to be like Joy Joe from Oyster Bay or something.
Myron Metcalf
But so he just, he called and then one day they were like, hey, Joe Bidingo, you're so good. Let's bidding you in here. And then you can be a host.
Unnamed Caller
Yeah, pretty much.
Myron Metcalf
Is he still a host?
Unnamed Caller
I think he recently retired, if I'm correct. But he's been. He was a host for like good five, ten years.
Scott Grayson
Yeah.
Myron Metcalf
Huh. Well, that's good. I don't think that's the same iron you were calling in. Like, you didn't make it though, because of your calls. No, you didn't. Nobody said that was, you know, there's a guy, well, there's people who have made it who just were good in the comment section. Like the guy, he's on the ringer, Big waz. I think he just was a comment section guy and ended up getting a job from it. So, you know, maybe the, maybe that could happen here today. We might have the next, you know, Mike Greenberg coming from one of the.
Unnamed Co-Host
Calls today or somebody just to go back to. I mean, because, you know, the show flips next week back to Sunday morning, so maybe just like a regular on that show.
Myron Metcalf
Do we get to come back next week? Are we, Are we still, Are we still. We still have the job next week?
Unnamed Co-Host
I mean, I hope so. I don't know.
Myron Metcalf
Yeah, I don't either. I want to go back real quick for, just for Josh Allen. Just a second. I do think, oddly, even though he lost in the championship game to Mahomes, I think getting this MVP and that game, he had such a good performance even though he lost. I do think in people's minds Josh Allen has gone a notch up this year from what he was maybe last year. Do you agree with that?
Unnamed Co-Host
Yeah, I think him being as efficient as he was played a role. Right. It wasn't the big numbers that he put up in the past, but again, name his receivers. Most people can't like, it was all these new young faces. And yet he still play one of his best years.
Myron Metcalf
Yes, Pat says, Matt, your parents have entertained each other for 50 years. They're certainly okay without you for 30 seconds.
Unnamed Co-Host
Are you making yourself the main event in ways you shouldn't be? Like, are they?
Myron Metcalf
That's not very nice. My parents, they miss me. Don't you worry about it? The Eagles, will they be able to derail the Chief's dynasty?
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Unnamed Co-Host
Super Bowl 59 is set. It's a rematch between the Chiefs and Eagles, something that, of course the Chiefs won a couple of years ago.
Myron Metcalf
The Kansas City Chiefs, can they three peat in the Super Bowl? Well, it's never been done. We ain't done yet. I want to get three. Three.
Unnamed Co-Host
That's a magic number.
Myron Metcalf
One, two, three. Chasing goatness. Will a three peat make Kansas City the greatest dynasty ever?
Unnamed Co-Host
Can somebody win three straight?
Unnamed Sports Commentator
It's about the Chiefs and can they do this.
Myron Metcalf
We get a chance to do it three times in a row.
Unnamed Co-Host
How do you get excited for that, baby?
Myron Metcalf
That's right. As long as we have our suit and tie, we're gonna pick it up for my lunch with my parents. I have to dress up for two. You know, you can't look like a schlub when you go meet your parents for lunch, Myron. They. They'll. They'll think. They'll think something's wrong with you, super cat dad. The kickoff presented by Progressive Insurance. Scott Grayson is the 973 ESPN Eagles reporter. He's gonna tell us what's happening on the Eagle side. First of all, Scott, are you in New Orleans right now?
Scott Grayson
I was there all week. I just got back last night. I got to cover things from this side of the perspective, win or lose tonight.
Myron Metcalf
Yeah, well, that's the thing, is no matter what happens, something crazy will happen in Philadelphia tonight. All right, so you've been around this team, you know, forever. So you get in games like this, sometimes teams are confident, sometimes they're ready. Sometimes you get a sense of something else you've been to. They were in a Super bowl two years ago. You feel like they're more ready to get the victory now than they were two years ago.
Scott Grayson
Yeah, I've been, as you mentioned, I've been around this team the last three times they were in the Super Bowl. Well, even the fourth time, too, back in 2004. In these last three. I think it's interesting to take them and compare, you know, how the teams were. And I feel like this year's team was comparable during the week of. To the team that won it back in 2018. I think two years ago, a lot of getting used to what this stage was like. I really felt like Jalen Hurts was getting irritated with all the media responsibilities that goes on throughout the week of. Of the Super Bowl. Two years ago this year, I saw him really just taking it in stride. You know, he was smiling, he was enjoying it a little bit more. Even Nick Sirianni wasn't as emotional as he was I think, two years ago with just kind of everything that went into it. So I think that this team, overall, my vibe from being around them is more comparable to the 2018 team, the 2017 team that won it in 2018, than the one two years ago that lost to these Chiefs.
Unnamed Co-Host
Scott, how do we go from preseason reports that Nick Sirianni and Jalen Hurts were not only just not on the same page, didn't really talk, and there were issues there to them taking this team to another Super Bowl?
Scott Grayson
That's a great question. I mean, that's really. The journey this team has been on is wild. It really was like a roller coaster ride. Yeah. I mean, all that stuff that happened to where they weren't talking, supposedly, and the reports that we heard about all that as well, to where then they ended up being able to work together? And. And I think it was interesting. Kellen Moore, I think, deserves a lot of credit for his role in this as well. As, you know, I think Nick Sirianni deserves a lot of credit, too, for listening to his players in that bye week when they came to him and said, we need more of a focus on running the ball as well as making sure that Jalen Hurts understood the severity of turning it over. The biggest reason this team offensively is where they are now is because in this run they've gone on since that bye week, they Just haven't turned the ball over hardly at all. And as long as this team doesn't turn the ball over, they have a real chance to win every game that they've been in. And at the same time, this defense came along as well. To answer your question, I think, you know, Nick Sirianni, Jalen Hurts and Kellen Moore all deserve the credit that went into understanding how this offense had to operate in order to be as successful as they've been since that bye week.
Myron Metcalf
You know, you being in radio, you. You will know the fan situation better than anybody. And I have to tell you from afar, the Eagle fan ride of the last year is baffling to me because it seems like everyone. Everyone's an exaggeration. But it seems like a lot of the Eagles fans from afar seemed anti Sirianni, kind of anti Jalen Hurts at times to now. It's the greatest thing in the world. And understand part of that is obviously winning. But tell me about that journey, like, from the fan perspective, it's. Do they. Do they embrace these guys completely now? Are they skeptical? Like, where. Where is the Eagles fan going into today's game?
Scott Grayson
I think the Eagles fan is excited going into today's game. I think you characterize that very well, you know, and it's more than just the Eagles, right, Because the Phillies had the best record in baseball and gave these fans a reason to think that they were going to win a World Series this year. And that that kind of collapsed with the series against the Nets. Then everybody looked to the Eagles and it was like, okay, what's going to happen with this team? And they just kind of got hot and went on a run. Nick Sirianni, in terms of the fans, was on the hot seat going into that bye week after going 2 and 2. Everybody was kind of like, is this the guy that should really be leading this, this franchise as a head coach? And to his credit, I think, you know, remember earlier in the year, he's jawing with a fan and the fans really kind of reacted negatively to all that kind of stuff to where I think Nick kind of settled down. He kind of focused on his job more and not paying too much attention to what was going on outside. Sure, they all hear it, but the Eagles fan has looked at Nick Sirianni and been like, is this really the guy? And I think when you hear the players and the players have had his back, they've been playing for him this season since that bye week. It was kind of what really brought them together a little bit was I think they really enjoy the guy that he is behind the scenes. You know, we only see the guy who he is on Sundays on the sidelines, and we hear him talk briefly during the week. These guys have been with him in the meeting room. They've kind of fed off of all that energy that he brings. You know, rarely can you say a Nick Sirianni team came out flat. You know, sure. During the collapse last year, there were a lot of issues that went into that, and I think that was more related to the coordinators, but he was the guy that oversaw it. And I think that that's where they're at today. I think where they look at this is Nick Sirianni has a real chance to elevate himself to a place where only one other coach has been in this city's history with this team, and that's Doug Peterson. A win here, he gets there. Jalen Hurts similarly, he wins this, you know, everybody, I think, gives him a little bit more respect around here. Nationally, they have really criticized Jalen Hurts about can he make the big throws when they need to. And it seems like they forgot how great he played two years ago and only remembered the fumble that he had that really kind of knock them down. So I think Nick Sirianni and Jalen Hurts can elevate themselves to an amazing place today if they can come away with this win. Not only doing that in this city, but around the country and nationally to just thwart this three peat attempt by the Chiefs.
Myron Metcalf
It really is crazy. I mean, I remember watching Nick Sirianni's press conference, opening press conference, and thinking, what? What a goober.
Scott Grayson
And next thing, he was asked about that this week.
Myron Metcalf
Oh, really? What did he say?
Scott Grayson
He said, you know, it's a good thing that coaches aren't judged by opening press conferences.
Myron Metcalf
Yeah.
Scott Grayson
And it was related to Cohen's press conference.
Myron Metcalf
Yeah. By the way, Liam Cohen needs that. And Liam's my guy from his time in Kentucky, but he needs to hope it with his press conferences remembered like that too. But. But it is amazing. Now he could go to 2 of 3. He's gone to 2 of 3 Super Bowls after that. Thank Scott Grayson, ESPN Eagles reporter 97. 3. Thank you very much for your time.
Scott Grayson
No problem, guys. Thanks for having me.
Myron Metcalf
If you had told me, Myron, that Nick Siri, I mean, I remember thinking, when I watched that press conference, I. Because I didn't know anything about him.
Unnamed Co-Host
Yeah.
Myron Metcalf
I remember thinking, there is not a bigger goober that has ever been hired for a major job. There's no way that works. And now put everything else aside. Trying to fight people in the stands, all that stuff. My man is two of three Super Bowls. Like, you gotta say, you gotta give him credit for. For what he's been able to do.
Unnamed Co-Host
You do. But I do want to push back on a little something that Scott said. That first press conference will define you. If you don't win, like, you win big, people forget it. Or they say things like, oh, he's just as different, or that's just a.
Myron Metcalf
Part of his personality that's not a good sign. When somebody says you're different, that's never a good sign.
Unnamed Co-Host
Or, you know. You know, like my parents. Generation. Generation would say he's special. You know what I mean?
Myron Metcalf
Like, so God bless him.
Unnamed Co-Host
Yeah, God bless. But, you know, you win and you can overcome all of that. And I think that's what Dick Sirianni has been able to do. Because, man, coming into the year, the reports were really bad. Like, it sounded like things between him and Jalen Hurts had reached a really toxic level. So for them to get to this point is kind of remarkable.
Myron Metcalf
Are you, like, is Liam Cohen going to be able to get over his press conference? I mean, you think. You think that little Duvall. Do you think that will ever. Will. Will he ever be able to get over that?
Unnamed Co-Host
Maybe if he wins.
Myron Metcalf
Like, how much do you have to win to get over that? Duvall, if.
Unnamed Co-Host
If he brings Trevor Lawrence back to what people think he can be, that'll be one of those. Oh, man, wasn't that a weird moment that he'll be able to laugh about? But the thing facing him is there's also the shadow of, hey, man, are you being honest with people? And these job searches. So it's added onto the Duval thing. I think for him, there's more pressure.
Myron Metcalf
Duvall was just.
Unnamed Co-Host
You gotta.
Myron Metcalf
You know what it is?
Unnamed Co-Host
You gotta workshop stuff with your friends first.
Myron Metcalf
Yeah. You know, when. When I saw that, there was a part of me that wanted to go, liam, you got my number, man. Like. Like, I could. I could have told you, take it down a notch. You know, you got my number. I could have been like, yeah, let's. Let's not be cute yet. Let's not do the. Yeah.
Unnamed Co-Host
Who was the politician that lost his campaign? Because he did some weird.
Myron Metcalf
No, it's Howard Dean when he went, we're going to Iowa. We're going to. You know, that was. That was.
Unnamed Co-Host
That could be. That could be Liam Cohen moment.
Myron Metcalf
I think Howard Dean, though, at least. I mean, it was Something about the.
Unnamed Co-Host
Like, it was something about like, literally, if you say Howard Dean, that is the number one thing that comes.
Myron Metcalf
Listen, Howard Dean, just to take up for him, second governor of Vermont, basically created modern Internet fundraising. He basically created it, but no one remembers that. What do they remember, Mikey? That's all they remember. That's all that dude's ever going to be remembered for. And I'm telling you, if Liam doesn't win, it's just going to be dude.
Unnamed Co-Host
You know, it was just, it was just odd. And you know, you know what the thing is when Jacksonville people think you did an odd thing, it's really odd because they're comfortable with weird down there. And this was different.
Myron Metcalf
That's true. Jacksonville is one of those, you know.
Unnamed Co-Host
How odd you gotta be to be odd in Jacksonville.
Myron Metcalf
I mean, Jacksonville's the place people will walk alligators down the street on a leash. So like if you, if people are like, all right, this dude may be a little strange for us.
Unnamed Co-Host
Like that'd be dude riding bicycles at Walmart for no reason. And nobody, nobody inside.
Myron Metcalf
Inside. Coming up next, we're gonna make our picks for Super Bowl 59. And I'll tell you what, we're gonna go ahead and open up the phones. I'm gonna be gone the last 30 minutes so I can see my wonderful parents. If you're ready to deal with Myron. The callers try to make their case for ESPN Radio Co hosting with Byron. That's go 888 say ESPN. All that's next here on Super Countdown to kickoff.
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Myron Metcalf
Who rolls down the lane for another one handed jam?
Matt Jones
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Myron Metcalf
Smoked it.
Matt Jones
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Myron Metcalf
Is this Bruce Springsteen?
Unnamed Caller
Yes, it's the Boss.
Myron Metcalf
The Boss. Oh yeah. So I think he's been playing. I didn't notice. Our producer Mike has been playing all the various super bowl acts.
Unnamed Co-Host
What's the best one?
Myron Metcalf
Well, I mean, I think it's pretty clear Prince is the best one. I mean, I don't think most people disagree with that. When I sit and think about the ones I remember of the super bowl halftimes, I mean, obviously I go back to like Michael Jackson in 93 special you got. I think Bruno Mars did a really good job his year. Yeah, I think having Dre and Snoop and those guys. The one Year. I remember Shakira really well. I don't know why. I remember I got in trouble with my girlfriend at the the time. We're not dating anymore.
Unnamed Co-Host
Wait, did that affect it?
Myron Metcalf
Like, no. She did get really mad at me. Like, like, well, I just tweeted, like, I, I, I don't tend to do. I'm not like, a lot of male people like sports, people who go online. Like, I don't tweet, like, thirsty things. Like, I just don't people do that in our business? I think they do. I think you got people who do it. I, I don't do it. But, like, I remember thinking, shakira looks really good. And I said something like, no, I mean, I was like, shakira looks great. Like, I wasn't saying anything beyond that. But I remember my, the girl I was, woman I was dating at the time was like, I don't look like her. Is that what you like? Oh, that's a tough combo. And then what do you say? Right? Because I was like, well, well, I was like, I like strawberry ice cream, but I also like mint chocolate chip.
Unnamed Co-Host
You would turn into an ice cream.
Myron Metcalf
But, I mean, why is that a bad thing? Like, you can, like, two very different kinds of ice cream.
Unnamed Co-Host
Yeah, but I made you.
Myron Metcalf
But she didn't like that. Point is, I learned, I learned. Let's not. When you're dating someone, publicly act like you think something. So. So the Shakira one sticks in my head for the aftermath in addition to the performances because I had, like, a couple weeks of, like, having to dig myself out of a hole.
Unnamed Co-Host
Yeah, yeah.
Myron Metcalf
But she was really good. I remember. And I, and, and I liked it.
Unnamed Co-Host
Yeah. I think the best thing is just to be like, yeah, she's really good and talented and.
Myron Metcalf
Yeah, but I couldn't, like, I only knew, like, one song going into it, you know, Like, I was. So I, I'm looking forward to Kendrick Lamar now. We always talk about the best ones. What were the worst ones?
Unnamed Co-Host
Justin Timberlake. I saw it live.
Myron Metcalf
Why was that the worst? I mean, everybody remembers it.
Unnamed Co-Host
It was just one of the worst. I mean, I saw it live. I was at that super bowl in Minneapolis. And what made it the worst, it just, it didn't have the same. If you were in the building, anybody was at that, that Eagles, Patriot, super bowl will tell you that there was no energy in that building at halftime the way they're supposed to be now. He came in, remember he was going to do, like, a Prince hologram thing, which upset a lot of People locally, they were like, you can't do that for Prince. You know, like, you. You got to get permission to do that.
Myron Metcalf
Well, I mean, I've always wondered sometimes. Sometimes, like, I mean, it's really a TV performance that the other people are just there for because y'all can't even see all that's happening with it. So, yeah. So, yeah, I always think of the who. You remember when they had the who out there, and I like the who, but I remember thinking, this is not for people. This is, like, for grandparents. When you bring the who. Yeah, because it. They had the who only, like, 10 years ago. It wasn't in the 70s, but I don't remember. Were there other bad ones you could think of?
Unnamed Caller
Coldplay a couple of years after that?
Myron Metcalf
Coldplay.
Unnamed Co-Host
You just.
Myron Metcalf
To be honest with you, you can't have rock bands.
Unnamed Co-Host
The weekend was weird a couple years ago.
Myron Metcalf
Like, some people really like that, though. Some people really like the weekend. I wasn't one. Do you think you could do bands? Like, can you have a.
Unnamed Co-Host
Like, could you.
Myron Metcalf
Like who, though? What. What band could you bring out? YouTube. I don't think you could do YouTube now. I feel like it has to be hip hop now or pop, like you. I don't think you can have a band. What band could you see going out and getting a good reaction today?
Unnamed Co-Host
I mean, you could probably do Guns and Roses. You do Red Hot Chili.
Myron Metcalf
You think you bring out Guns and Roses now?
Unnamed Caller
They did, like, an 80s hair band thing. You're like, yeah, Guns and Roses.
Myron Metcalf
I mean, I would like it, but I think, like, a lot of people, younger people, be like, who are these people? You're bringing poison out here. Like, what are you doing?
Unnamed Co-Host
You can do it.
Myron Metcalf
Peppers, maybe. Maybe the Red Hot Chili Peppers. I could maybe see that.
Unnamed Co-Host
Boys to Men. Could boys to Men do it?
Myron Metcalf
No, not now. Sing into the Road or something. Like, what do you.
Unnamed Caller
You know who I think could do it and would appeal to every? Billy Joel. Right?
Myron Metcalf
No. People under 35 don't know who Billy Joel is.
Unnamed Caller
You know who Billy Joel is?
Unnamed Co-Host
Sync. I know. Of course. With Backstreet Boys could like that.
Myron Metcalf
Now, I do think that could work. I think NSync, Backstreet Boys. I think that could work for nostalgia. Okay, maybe Green Day. I could see, like, a Green Day Red Hot Chili Peppers thing, maybe. But it has to be somebody that people now know, like you. You could. I love guns. You can't bring out Guns and Roses right now.
Unnamed Co-Host
Red Hot Chili Peppers would be good. I'm down there.
Myron Metcalf
Would have been a time. You could have done Metallica. Metallica.
Unnamed Co-Host
You could do the. You could do the Killers. You can do Raging. Bright side.
Myron Metcalf
Now killer Killers would work because kids love Mr. Brightside like they. They. I like Killers, too. All right, we got off track. This was supposed to be picking the game so you can tune in to NBA action. Today, the Bucks host the Sixers. Hubie Brown's final broadcast, presented by. Indeed. Coverage begins at 1:30 Eastern here on ESPN radio on the ESPN app. No offense to people on ESPN radio, but at least turn on the beginning on the television to see Hubie Brown. By the way, it was awesome seeing Dick Vital back yesterday. And it's awesome that Hubie Brown today. Good chance to honor Myron. The legends of. Of our. Of. Of the announcing.
Unnamed Co-Host
Yeah. To be able to do it at that stage of career for this long is just remarkable.
Myron Metcalf
Yeah. All right, now it is time to make our pick. We've been doing it all year. I've already won the contest. This is for pride. It's time to take a pick.
Matt Jones
Eagles vs. Chiefs in Super Bowl 59.
Myron Metcalf
Byron, who you got?
Unnamed Co-Host
So I went back and looked at the last time these two teams played. Jalen hurts over 300 yards passing. They had a lead in that game. What's remarkable is no interceptions from either quarterback. Mahomes, you know, at three touchdowns, I think even though he didn't even hit 200 yards, I just don't think Jalen Harris can make a mistake in this game. A big mistake. But I think Saquon Barkley just gives him something that he didn't have. I mean, that to me, is the X factor in this game. I'll say what I said at the start of the year, that I'll continue to say today. The NFL has had some incredible dynasties, maybe greater dynasties than in any other sport. No one has won three in the row. I don't think that's going to change today with Kansas City. Give me Philly to win on a field goal in the last minute and to beat Patrick Mahomes.
Myron Metcalf
If you were to break down the game for all the actual, like, football stuff, I think the defense is better for Philadelphia. I think it's going to. They're going to get a lot of pressure on the quarterback. I think the. If you think about the running backs are better for Philadelphia, the wide receivers are better. The defense is similar at pretty much all positions. Probably better at the line, maybe not as good in the back end, but I don't care about any of that. One team's got Patrick Mahomes. The other team doesn't. I don't bet against Patrick Mahomes. I haven't bet against Patrick Holmes. I'm not going to start doing it now. Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs win again and become the first to win three in a row. So there you go, Myron.
Unnamed Co-Host
MVP, Joy.
Myron Metcalf
Super bowl what MVPs. I mean, I'll take my homes, right?
Unnamed Co-Host
So I'll take Saquon.
Myron Metcalf
All right. So there you go, Saquon and Mahomes. Those are the two picks depending on which team wins. All right. So for the next 30 minutes, I'm gonna go meet my parents, but Myron is going to listen to you all. This is your chance. Get rid of Matt. Myron. It can be whoever is on the phone and Myron888 say ESPN Myron will get you through the last 30 minutes and then what's the show after ours that's coming on? Is it like pros do their the Bucks game? Sixers.com oh, it's the Bucks and the Sixers. Even better. Coming up next, we take your calls here on ESPN Radio. Hey, it's your residents who super bowl champ Chris Cannon. Coming up Monday, I'll give you my biggest takeaways from Super Bowl 59. It's unfortunately like 6am Eastern right here.
Unnamed Co-Host
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Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron – Episode: "Hour 3: Matt Has to Leave"
Release Date: February 9, 2025
Hosts: Matt Jones and Myron Metcalf
Platform: ESPN Radio
The episode kicks off with a lighthearted exchange between Matt Jones and Myron Metcalf as they navigate a scheduling mishap. Myron realizes he has to leave the show early to meet his elderly parents for lunch, leading to playful tension about how to handle his abrupt departure.
Notable Quote:
Myron sets the stage by emphasizing the relentless dedication of NFL players, highlighting the passion and battles they endure throughout the season. The conversation transitions into an analysis of Super Bowl dynamics, focusing on key players like Patrick Mahomes and Jalen Hurts.
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The hosts delve deep into the MVP race, debating Josh Allen's recent triumph over Lamar Jackson. They discuss the historical significance of Allen's achievements, comparing him to legends like Tom Brady and Joe Montana. The conversation also touches on the impact of player longevity and financial incentives on career decisions.
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As the episode progresses, Myron's impending departure becomes a central theme. The hosts humorously speculate on co-host auditions and the possibility of replacing Myron for the remaining segment. This banter adds a personal and relatable touch to the episode.
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The show features an insightful interview with Scott Grayson, an ESPN Eagles reporter. Scott provides an in-depth analysis of the Philadelphia Eagles' progression under Coach Nick Sirianni and Quarterback Jalen Hurts. He discusses the team's improved chemistry, strategic adjustments, and the positive shift in fan perception.
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As the episode nears its end, Matt and Myron engage in their traditional Super Bowl predictions. They analyze team strengths, player performances, and historical data to forecast the outcome of Super Bowl 59 between the Kansas City Chiefs and the Philadelphia Eagles. Myron leans towards a Chiefs victory, citing Patrick Mahomes' unparalleled skill, while Matt supports the Eagles, highlighting their defensive prowess and strategic advantages.
Notable Quotes:
The hosts reminisce about past Super Bowl halftime shows, debating the merits of various performances. They express a preference for iconic acts like Prince and critique less impactful performances by artists like Justin Timberlake and Coldplay. This segment blends nostalgia with humor, offering listeners a light-hearted diversion.
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In the closing moments, Myron reminds listeners of future shows and upcoming segments, while Matt emphasizes the availability of the podcast across various platforms. The episode wraps up with final thoughts on team dynamics and anticipation for the Super Bowl.
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Player Performance and Legacy: The discussion underscores the evolving legacies of quarterbacks like Patrick Mahomes and Jalen Hurts, emphasizing their potential Hall of Fame trajectories based on Super Bowl performances and MVP accolades.
Coaching Dynamics: Nick Sirianni's strategic adjustments and improved relationship with Jalen Hurts have been pivotal for the Eagles' success, showcasing the importance of coach-player synergy in high-stakes games.
Fan Perception: The episode highlights a shift in fan sentiment towards the Eagles' leadership, from skepticism to enthusiastic support, driven by the team's on-field achievements and strategic wins.
Super Bowl Predictions: The hosts present a balanced analysis of both teams' strengths, acknowledging the Chiefs' dynastic potential while recognizing the Eagles' defensive and strategic capabilities that could disrupt the status quo.
Cultural Reflections: Through their banter and discussions on halftime acts, Matt and Myron reflect on the broader cultural significance of the Super Bowl, blending sports analysis with entertainment nostalgia.
This comprehensive summary encapsulates the essence of "Hour 3: Matt Has to Leave," offering listeners an engaging overview of the episode's discussions, insights, and humorous interactions. Whether you're a dedicated fan or new to the podcast, this summary provides a clear and detailed glimpse into the dynamic conversation between Matt Jones and Myron Metcalf.