Hour 3: Myron Was Right

Summary

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Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron — Hour 3: "Myron Was Right"

Hosts: Myron Medcalf, Matt Jones
Date: June 1, 2026
Network: ESPN Radio

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Overview

This episode of “Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron” covers a broad array of topics across the sports world, including NFL quarterback controversies, the newest congressional bill for college athletics, the forthcoming World Cup, the NBA Finals, and rapid-fire predictions for the MLB and NHL. Myron and Matt's signature banter is present throughout, with memorable quips and lively debates about everything from survivalist vacations to which pop star reigns supreme.

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1. Myron's Wilderness Dreams & Banter

00:35–02:29

• Topic: Myron considers spending part of his vacation at a Minnesota survivalist camp, learning to live off the land with basic supplies.
  • Myron: "My dream has always been to get dropped in the wilderness...and just live off the land for like 48 hours." (00:55)
  • Matt jokes about needing a cameraman to document Myron in the wild. (02:14)
• Tone: Fun, playful; Matt repeatedly teases Myron: "Sometimes I need you to just say, hey man, go follow your dreams." (02:01)
• The segment transitions with light-heartedness back into sports.

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2. NFL QB Controversy: Kyler Murray vs. JJ McCarthy

02:33–07:10

• Background: Discussion about Kyler Murray and J.J. McCarthy’s quotes on their "QB battle" and locker room dynamics in Minnesota.
  • Kyler offers textbook veteran leadership; McCarthy’s answer is cold and individualistic.
  • JJ McCarthy: “You know, it's just like two guys in a classroom. You know, he sits on one side, I sit on the other side. And it's the coach's responsibility to teach us and coach us.” (03:45)
• Myron’s Take:
  • Critical of McCarthy’s lack of self-awareness and perceived arrogance.
  • Quote: “I think JJ McCarthy's become unlikable, and that's gonna be a problem for him in his career.” (04:26)
  • Accuses McCarthy of being divisive and delusional about his role and status.
• Matt & Co-Host: Express that McCarthy missed an opportunity to deliver the “company line” and be more team-oriented. (05:27–05:48)
• Broader Point:
  • Myron notes that a QB’s attitude can impact the coaching staff’s job security; predicts that Murray or even Carson Wentz might be a safer bet for the Vikings this year.

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3. Coaching Reputation & Hype: Kevin O’Connell

07:10–09:35

• Subject: Public perceptions of Vikings coach Kevin O’Connell—Was he overrated after prior success? Did the development (or lack thereof) of JJ McCarthy and Sam Darnold affect his standing?
  • Debate over whether credit should go to the coach or players—especially as Sam Darnold later succeeded in Seattle.
  • Myron: "At the end of the day, Kevin O'Connell is a guy who is going to be a head coach for a long time…But if this goes south with Kyler Murray…there has to be a hot seat conversation." (08:02)
• Interlude: Light mix-up over an old Mike Greenberg quote about O’Connell. (08:31–09:01)

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4. Locker Room Politics: Jackson Dart & Jameis Winston

09:35–12:11

• Jameis Winston’s Viral Speech: Mixed reactions to Winston’s attempts to broker peace between players with political differences.
  • Myron: "It's like people are getting in a fight at Thanksgiving and then your crazy uncle comes in and makes it all worse." (10:03)
• Broader Question: Does political division matter in sports locker rooms?
  • Myron asserts: “Jackson Dart isn't good enough to become a distraction." (11:11)
• Takeaway: Matt and Myron agree that players’ prominence determines whether off-field drama is tolerated.
  • Matt (joking): "Myron believes you have to be good in order to be able to express your opinion. That's the difference. Ignore your fans, Byron's elitism, and my egalitarianism, 100%." (12:11)

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5. College Sports Reform: The Protect College Sports Act of 2026

14:35–20:56

• Summary: Detailed breakdown of the bipartisan bill in Congress meant to overhaul NCAA and college athletics rules.
• Key Provisions:
  1. NIL National Standards (salary cap):
     • Matt: “That basically puts a salary cap, for lack of a better term, on college athletics.” (15:48)
     • Myron: Supports cap in theory but wants more details. (16:07–16:19)
  2. Five-Year Eligibility & One-Time Transfer Limit:
     • Myron thinks this is restrictive and could unfairly limit athletes' opportunities. (16:37–17:11)
  3. Coaches Can’t Switch Mid-Season:
     • Myron: Not workable unless other transfer rules change; doubts enforceability. (17:28–17:45)
  4. Antitrust Exemption for College Sports:
     • Matt: "If this passes, Congress is saying the antitrust laws don't apply to college sports..." (18:15)
  5. Scholarship Guarantees & Medical Coverage:
     • Guarantees multi-year aid/scholarship, locks in medical coverage beyond school.
     • Myron: Essential, as many fans don’t realize scholarships can be pulled at will. (19:06)
  6. No New Teams in Power Conferences:
     • Myron: “I don't like it because it's not real…where’s the money coming from to execute all this?” (20:02)
• Matt’s Summary: This legislation, if it passes, will fundamentally shape college sports for the next 20 years. (20:32–20:37)

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6. World Cup Preview & Soccer Banter

23:31–33:51

• Topics: Time zones for matches, Myron’s efforts to become a World Cup fan (buying preview magazines & jerseys for Colombia and Japan), and rapid speculation about team favorites.
  • Fun debate over rooting interests and international travel stories.
• Notable Exchange:
  • Rachel: "So there is some controversy with their roster this year." (on Neymar and Brazil) (30:33)
  • Myron is thrilled to get a soccer fact right: "Nobody's giving me credit for getting a soccer thing right…I got it right." (31:29)
• World Cup Odds: Spain and France are betting favorites. (32:37)
• Discussion of underdog teams—Qatar, New Zealand, Curacao—leads to jokes about picking dark horses based on personal experience or connections.

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7. NBA Finals: Knicks vs. Spurs Preview & Predictions

27:22–29:44; 40:23–41:05

• Debate: Who’s the favorite and why?
  • Myron initially picks the Knicks for their historic streak and two regular-season wins vs. the Spurs. (27:44, 29:44)
  • Counterpoints: Spurs have stronger depth and home court, but Knicks have form and experience.
  • Myron: "I was wrong about the Knicks. Right now they’re playing some of the best basketball we’ve ever seen." (29:44)
• Final Picks:
  • Matt and Myron both lean Knicks in six games, citing momentum and performance metrics.
  • Matt: "Give me New York. Knicks fans deserve it. Basketball's better when the Knicks are good." (40:43)
  • Myron: "I think the Knicks win this in six.” (41:05)

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8. Take Your Pick: Sports Predictions Roundup

36:47–42:06

• Baseball:
  • Braves at Reds: Both go heavy on the Braves as the better team.
  • Brewers at Astros: Both like the Brewers and marvel at Jacob Mizarowski’s pitching speed.
  • Cubs at Cardinals: Split picks; Matt goes Cardinals, Myron picks Cubs.
• Stanley Cup Finals:
  • Hurricanes vs. Golden Knights: Panel splits; Matt takes Canes in six, Myron leans Knights in seven.
  • Myron: "It's hard not to be impressed with a Knights team that took out the definitive best team in the regular season in the Avalanche." (39:57)
• NBA Finals: See section 7.
• WWE “Clash in Italy”: Matt and Myron joke-pick their favorites, referencing Brock Lesnar and Oba Femi.
• World Cup (“Longshots”):
  • Matt jokes about New Zealand (“The Kiwis”) after a date with a New Zealander; Myron picks Qatar, betting on resources.

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9. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Myron’s Survivalist Ambition:
  • "I just want to be able to know how to do it." (01:40)
  • Matt: “I just want to make sure we have a cameraman there to watch.” (02:14)
• QB Battle Analysis (on McCarthy):
  • Myron: "A dude who maybe lacks some self-awareness and kind of how he's actually viewed." (04:26)
• Locker Room Politics:
  • Myron: "If you're not big time, I don't want to hear you talk. You can't. Like, at the end of the day, there are privileges that come with achievement. That's just the reality." (12:31)
• Soccer Win for Myron:
  • "Nobody's ringing any bells or playing any noise. I got it right." (31:29)
• Final Sentiment:
  • “If the support helps to check…I'm with whatever you got to say, baby.” (36:20)

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10. Segments and Timestamps (Quick Reference)

• 00:35—Myron’s Survivalist Vacation Joke
• 02:33—Kyler Murray vs. JJ McCarthy QB Commentary
• 07:10—Kevin O’Connell Reputation Debate
• 09:35—Jameis Winston & Locker Room Politics
• 14:35—Summary and Critique of “Protect College Sports Act”
• 23:31—World Cup Preview, Fun with Soccer Facts
• 27:22—NBA Finals Discussion
• 36:47—"Take Your Pick" (MLB, Stanley Cup, NBA, WWE, World Cup)
• 40:23—NBA Finals final picks
• 41:05—Reflection on sports fandom and event overlap in NYC

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Final Thoughts

This hour is classic Matt and Myron: funny, sharp, and unafraid to debate. The show weaves between playful squabbles and substantive sports analysis—leaving listeners feeling both informed and entertained, whether about QB politics, college sports reform, or picking underdog World Cup teams.

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Transcript

[Announcer]

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[Myron]

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[Podcast Intro/Outro Voice]

This is Matt and Myron, the podcast.

[Matt]

It is Matt Myron here on ESPN Radio. During the break, Myron told me he's taking two weeks off in June to become a survivalist.

[Myron]

That's not what I said. You don't support me the way you should, man. Sometimes.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Well, tell people real quick what you

[Matt]

said you were going to do during your vacation. You're thinking about going off the grid and learning how to do what I'm doing.

[Myron]

A lot of fun stuff, but my dream has always been to get dropped in the wilderness with just, like, basic goods, maybe a machete, and just live off the land for like 48 hours. Decade. Like, to be able to get my own food, start a fire, pitch a tent. That's always been something because I watched five of the shows.

[Matt]

But why do you want to do that? Like you.

[Myron]

I just think it's cool skills to have, though. I think it's cool skills. I think it's. I think it's just a cool thing I've always wanted to do.

[Matt]

But what are you gonna do with it?

[Myron]

I want to go to the woods and see if I can do something cool and just, you know, and.

[Co-host/Analyst]

But what if you. What if it doesn't work?

[Matt]

Like, what if you get in the woods and you. Your machet is not enough and that you're just walking around the woods getting ticks and not being able to find food and, like, what's the point?

[Myron]

I mean, there'll be a distress call, I'm sure, you know, like a flare or something like that. But I just. I just want to be able to know how to do it. And there are. There are these survivalist camps here in Minnesota you can go to.

[Matt]

Oh, it's a camp.

[Myron]

I've thought about going to it. Yeah. For a couple days. Not like my whole vacation, but just being able to live up.

[Matt]

Sometimes I'm in a request.

[Myron]

Sometimes I need you to just say, hey, man, go follow your dreams. You know, I don't need all the extra commentary sometimes.

[Matt]

All right, Aaron Rodgers, if you would like to go follow. Follow your dreams into the woods.

[Myron]

Want to learn. That's all.

[Matt]

All right. I just want to make sure we have A cameraman there to watch you attempt with all you want. Some machete?

[Co-host/Analyst]

Can you see Myron just walking around with a machete?

[Matt]

Oh, never mind. I can't do it. You can. Tune in to baseball action tonight.

[Co-host/Analyst]

The Cardinals host the Cubs.

[Matt]

Coverage begins at 6:30 Eastern on ESPN Radio and the ESPN app. You're a Minnesota guy, Myron, and I don't know. I don't know that I've ever heard two teammates less on the same page than they were. This week, Kyler Murray was asked about his battle or competition with JJ McCarthy.

[Co-host/Analyst]

And let's just. Let's do Kyler first.

[Matt]

Here's what Kyler had to say about it.

[Kyler Murray]

It's been great. It's been great. Obviously, I know he's a younger guy, so any. Any way I can help him. Obviously, I feel like, you know, I've played seven years now going on eight, so I'm considered a veteran, even though I don't see myself as that. Give him any knowledge that he needs. Again, you know, we're both competitors and I know, you know, we both want what's best for the team.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

Has he been receptive to hearing Kurt?

[Kyler Murray]

Of course.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Of course.

[Kyler Murray]

Yeah. He's. No, he's overly acceptive, you know, and he's. He's always communicating, asking questions, stuff like that. So it's been good.

[Matt]

Very magnanimous, very leader, like I thought in his comments, and that's what you want from a veteran. Now, the other guy, J.J. mcCarthy, younger guy.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I wonder what he had to say about it.

[JJ McCarthy]

I mean, yeah, it's a true competition. That's what I was told. But at the end of the day, it matters what I do out here every single day, and that's the only thing I'm focused on. Jj, what's your relationship been like with Kyler so far? You know, it's just like two guys in a classroom. You know, he sits on one side, I sit on the other side. And it's the coach's responsibility to teach us and coach us.

[Interviewer]

So is there any awkwardness, like, between you two?

[JJ McCarthy]

Awkwardness? You know, it's just like the same feeling, you know, when you're in high school and there's another person on the other side of the room. That's just kind of how it is. So I wouldn't say there's any awkwardness.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Little different than Kyler's. Myron, your thoughts on the different answers as to who, as to what's going on?

[Myron]

I think JJ McCarthy's become unlikable, and that's gonna be a problem for him in his career and he's gonna end up going from a backup quarterback to a number three guy or someone who's on a different roster. I just, in moments like that, Matt, you just say the company line. You just say, hey, man. Yeah, it's quarterback competition. Obviously I want to win. We're looking forward to training Campbell. We can battle it out. Like, you don't have to say anything beyond that. And for him to say, I'm on one side, he's on the other side. Like you dividing the room, Are you saying you're either a McCarthy guy or Kyler Murray guy? He hasn't earned any of this. He's delusional if he thinks that he can come into this season and he feels like he shouldn't be challenged as a starter on this team. He's done nothing to have, I think the arrogance that he often demonstrates and that's a turn off for a lot of fans. That's comment you just saw has kind of been the JJ McCarthy experience. A dude who maybe lacks some self awareness and kind of how he's actually viewed.

[Matt]

What do you think he was trying to say?

[Co-host/Analyst]

Like, what was he trying to say? Clearly it didn't come out right. But what do you think was his. Like, what was he trying to do?

[Myron]

He was saying, he's trying to win the job, I'm trying to win the job. I don't care anything about what he's trying to do. I'm focused on myself. That's what it sounded like.

[Co-host/Analyst]

But that's not what. But that's not the message you want

[Matt]

to portray though, right?

[Co-host/Analyst]

You want to say we're all in this together. I'm hoping to win, but at the same time, we got to work together for the team goal. I mean, isn't that a better way to do it?

[Myron]

Not if you're delusional. If, if, if J.J. mcCarthy thinks that he was supposed to come into training camp without a challenger, without somebody pushing him for that number one spot, that's already the problem. He hasn't done anything. And I'll tell you what.

[Co-host/Analyst]

So you said, is he, Is he like this? Like, I, I haven't spent. I mean, I don't know that I've actually, for a guy that's kind of as famous as him, I don't think I've heard a lot of talks with him. Is this just how he is?

[Myron]

If you talk to people that I know around the team, they'll tell you that, yes, he comes off as arrogant. And even, I mean, that's just kind of what he is. And again, if you're like that, you can have a little bit of that. Like, if you're like that, you can have a little bit of that bravado. And people go, okay, yeah, maybe a little arrogant, but fine, he's a really good player. People accept it. J.J. mcCarthy is not in that situation. And what Kevin O', Connell, who now has to face a new gym, what he's saying with this move with Kyler Murray is, hey, man, you're not going to get me fired. I'm not going to let you get me fired. Which is why Kyler Murray's now probably going to get the number one spot, which is why they resigned Carson Wentz. JJ McCarthy is the kind of quarterback that gets you fired if he plays the same way he did last year. And I think Kevin o' Connell is trying to prevent that.

[Matt]

Would you.

[Co-host/Analyst]

What did you think of Mike Greenberg,

[Matt]

our colleague, saying this week that he would take Kevin o' Connell number one in an NFL coaches draft?

[Myron]

I. I think that's something that would have been true in 2025. I don't know if it's as true this year because I think last year we saw a lot of missteps. Granted, there weren't a lot of. There were health concerns, injury issues. Kevin o' Connell wasn't the coach he was, I think, in the.

[Matt]

But do you think.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I mean, part of that was.

[Matt]

I think part of the reason people felt that way about Kevin o' Connell was because of the success that Sam Darnold had. And, like, people didn't want to give Sam Darnold credit for it.

[Co-host/Analyst]

So they were like, well, it must be this coach who was able to

[Matt]

get something out of him.

[Co-host/Analyst]

But when Sam Darnold then goes to Seattle and is able to win a

[Matt]

championship, don't you think that takes some,

[Co-host/Analyst]

like, maybe at this point, Sam Darnold

[Matt]

deserves the credit for it, not just Kevin O'.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Connell.

[Myron]

I think people see Kevin O' Connell as a guy who missed out, who picked McCarthy over Sam Darnold and wasn't able to mold McCarthy so far at least, into this kind of elite player. So I, I think at the end of the day, Kevin o' Connell is a guy who is going to be a head coach for a long time, and I think he is viewed as one of the best coaches in the NFL. At the same time, if this goes south with Kyler Murray, if he can't develop JJ McCarthy, there has to be a hot seat conversation About Kevin o',

[Matt]

Connor, I do need to let it be known. I'm just told that that quote that I was on the screen here was from 2025. Okay, which would. Which would have been good to know.

[Myron]

Okay, well, he said it going into the season. I mean, he said it early in the season.

[Matt]

I understand.

[Rachel]

To be fair to Greeny, it's on the screen.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I understand.

[Matt]

But I mean, if you put a quote up from 2021, I mean, there

[Co-host/Analyst]

is a level in which I'm gonna

[Sports Analyst]

go, well, that's get up from September 9, 2025.

[Matt]

It's all right, well, from now on, I will make sure to focus in on the year.

[Co-host/Analyst]

But the point, I think your point, though, about o'.

[Matt]

Connell.

[Co-host/Analyst]

It is odd how a coach that

[Matt]

was that, well, revered going into the season can have one year to where

[Co-host/Analyst]

you said you think because of the new GM he'd be on the hot seat.

[Matt]

If they don't have a good season,

[Myron]

if this falls apart, I mean, you get Kyler Murray for next to nothing. You got to make a decision about him. He's going to have his options after the season. If J.J. mcCarthy doesn't develop into a guy that you can trust. What? Coaches escape this, man. Yeah, coaches escape this.

[Matt]

You know what? You know what the Vikings need with this Kyler Murray and Jax, or. Excuse me, Kyler Murray, JJ McCarthy on opposite ends of the. Of the room is they need a Jameis Winston to bring. Right? They need a Jameis Winston to do what he did with Jackson Dart and Abdul Carter and bring them together. Did you like jj? I'd like to play it, but it's a little long. Did you like Jameis Winston's comment about.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I don't really know what he was

[Matt]

saying, but it was great.

[Myron]

Nah, it's like people are getting in a fight at Thanksgiving and then your crazy uncle comes in and makes it all worse. There were people who were praising Jameis. We gotta get away from taking, like, two people fighting on Twitter about politics or whatever it is and turning that into some gigantic thing where you're invoking serious situation. It didn't make a lot of sense to me. It really didn't. And a lot of people were praising James Winston. And I'm like, for.

[Co-host/Analyst]

What do you think, though? Like, I think it's kind of odd that people got as upset about the Dart Carter situation, because I would assume in virtually every locker room, in every sport, there are going to be players in the locker room who disagree about politics. Like, why is it. Why is that surprising? It doesn't mean they can't be friends or play together. Well, I don't understand. Was it just because he said something publicly? Is that. Is that the difference? I. But these young, young guys, they live their lives online like that's what they do. Myron, I didn't. I didn't understand why people thought this was going to be some sort of locker room dividing thing.

[Myron]

We don't know what. What it'll mean to the locker room. The problem is Jackson Dart isn't good enough to become a distraction at the end of the day. I think that's what it comes down to. A lot of guys in this league

[Co-host/Analyst]

understand why it's a distraction. Like, yeah, so what? He goes up and he. I mean, I disagree with Jackson Dart about politics, but what do I care

[Matt]

who he goes and introduces?

[Myron]

I think people have a problem with it, in part, obviously, the political climate, but there's also an element of, again, we're talking about J.J. mcCarthy. When you haven't earned something, when people don't see you as sort of the guy and they feel like, wait a minute, man, focus on.

[Matt]

So if Sam Darnold does it right after winning the super bowl, fine, baby.

[Myron]

But I mean, the guys who've done. Brady's been open about his politics. We've had conversations about Mahomes and his politics. Drew Brees was open about his politics.

[Co-host/Analyst]

There have been a lot of be good.

[Matt]

You just have to be good.

[Myron]

If you're good, people don't say anything. I think it's Jackson Dart being a guy who people feel like has to prove something and this being maybe a setback to that. Well, I. Whether that's real or not, that's how people see.

[Matt]

Here's the thing. Here's the difference between me and Myron. I believe in America, everyone should have an equal voice. Myron believes you have to be good in order to be able to express your opinion. That's the difference. Ignore your fans, Byron's elitism, and my egalitarianism, 100%.

[Myron]

If you're not big time, I don't want to hear you talk. You can't. Like, at the end of the day, there are privileges that come with achievement. That's just the reality.

[Matt]

All right, Myron A. Smith and Matt Jones here on Matt Myron on ESPN Radio. We'll do some more on the NBA playoffs and other news. That's

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[Matt]

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[Co-host/Analyst]

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[Matt]

platforms, whether that's Spotify or Apple or anything else or just espnradio.com please stop singing. You can do Matt Myron. I'm just trying to promote our show.

[Myron]

I couldn't help it. You put on Brittany. Not just.

[Matt]

Is that the. Is that the musical artist that does it for you?

[Myron]

I love Britney.

[Matt]

Yeah, no, Christina.

[Myron]

I'm a. I'm a Britney guy more than Christina, I think.

[Matt]

See, I was a Christina guy. She's just a little more saucy, more my. More my.

[Myron]

Okay, that makes sense.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Well, you know, I mean, you.

[Matt]

You kind of like that. We each have things that we prefer. It's Matt Myron here on ESPN Radio.

[Co-host/Analyst]

So this week, the project or Protect

[Matt]

College Sports act of 2026 was released.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Now, a lot of people have been hearing Congress talks about this, and you've

[Matt]

probably glazed over and said, you know,

[Co-host/Analyst]

wake me when something passes.

[Matt]

And I could totally understand why someone would say that. But what I think is important about

[Co-host/Analyst]

this is this is the bill, Myron,

[Matt]

that if college sports is going to have legislation. Yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

If they're going to have Congress get involved, this is the bill that will work.

[Matt]

Or not.

[Co-host/Analyst]

All the other prior attempts, the president's commission, the SCORE Act, I think we can safely say none of those are going to work. The only one that has a chance to pass and really become the new

[Matt]

laws of college sports is this.

[Co-host/Analyst]

It's Ted Cruz and Maria Cantwell, one

[Matt]

Republican and one Democrat.

[Co-host/Analyst]

And because of the rules of Congress, whatever they pass has to be bipartisan.

[Matt]

This is the only bipartisan one.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Now, it has a number of provisions in it. And I just want to quickly go over, what if this passes, Myron, what

[Matt]

would be the new rules and whether you think they're good or bad?

[Co-host/Analyst]

Number one would be nil national standards. That basically puts a salary cap, for

[Matt]

lack of a better term, on college athletics.

[Co-host/Analyst]

What that number is, who knows? But then it puts A salary cap on it. Myron, do you think that is a good idea or bad idea?

[Myron]

Yeah, I think it. I think you need some sort of salary cap. I think you need. You need something. So I think if you can execute makes sense to me. I just want to see more details about.

[Co-host/Analyst]

It says that each athlete in college starts the year after they graduate high school. They get five years to play.

[Matt]

Five years.

[Co-host/Analyst]

So you get five years of college eligibility. You can transfer one time and that's it.

[Matt]

What do you think about that?

[Co-host/Analyst]

No exceptions.

[Myron]

You know, to me, I don't have a problem with people deciding to transfer, you know, if that's what they want to do and coaches are allowing them to do that. I think one transfer, one time is pretty restrictive, especially with some of the nil offers. Like, at the end of the day, Matt, you're going to have people who can go from making six figures to seven figures depending on the opportunity. I don't like the idea of potentially restricting someone when they have that opportunity.

[Matt]

So you don't agree with the transfer.

[Myron]

Don't agree with the transfer rules.

[Matt]

Okay, next rule.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Coaches cannot leave their teams in the

[Matt]

middle of the season. They would have to wait until the

[Co-host/Analyst]

season is over before they go to another team.

[Matt]

This is being called the Lane Kiffin rule.

[Myron]

Yeah, I don't. Unless you move the. Again, if you change the transfer portal window, maybe. But it's going to be hard because teams want to get sort of a head start on assembling that next team when they get a different coach.

[Matt]

But this would ban that. You would not be able to do it.

[Myron]

Yeah, but there are so many things in this, Matt, where you and I know there's another two or three things that have to happen to make it work. And this feels like that to me, by the way.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I want to know if this passes. A lot of people are like, well, it'll get overturned in court. I actually don't think it will. I mean, we don't have to, as

[Matt]

a, you know, I used to do practice law.

[Co-host/Analyst]

We don't have to go into the details of why, but the reason it gets overturned in court, all these things is because of the antitrust laws.

[Matt]

That's why all this stuff gets overturned.

[Co-host/Analyst]

If this passes. Congress is saying the antitrust laws don't apply to college sports, which means all of this stuff will be upheld. So, like, there's a worry. People have said, well, whatever they pass will get overturned. I actually do not think that will happen. I think if they pass this, almost all of it actually would get upheld.

[Matt]

All right, what about this?

[Co-host/Analyst]

A college scholarship guarantee. If you offer a kid a scholarship, you. You are guaranteeing them the college. The scholarship for the rest of their college and medical coverage during college and after college for any injuries they occur while a student athlete.

[Matt]

That's not what happens now. Do you like that?

[Myron]

So you're saying if someone's on. If you give someone a scholarship, they're on your roster. They get that scholarship for they have it.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Unless they choose to transfer, you can't just pull it from them.

[Myron]

I like that because, Matt, you know this. I don't know if the general public knows that scholarships aren't guaranteed. Yeah. How many. The problem with this portal conversation that I hate is a lot of people assume that kid just wants another opportunity. He doesn't want to stay at one school. You have no idea how many coaches are pulling kids into meetings and saying, listen, man, there's a kid we're bringing in and we need that scholarship. So I'm going to try to help you find a new place, but you're not going to be here. That happens all the time. So I think the medical.

[Matt]

The medical care thing is huge.

[Myron]

That's a big thing.

[Co-host/Analyst]

And what also makes it huge is some of these schools, small schools, allege

[Matt]

they can't even afford that. Whether they can or not, this is now. This is now going to be.

[Co-host/Analyst]

And then finally it keeps conferences. Once this is passed, teams will not be able to merge into the power conferences.

[Matt]

You will not.

[Co-host/Analyst]

There'll be no new teams in the SEC, no new teams in the Big Ten, etc.

[Matt]

Do you like that?

[Myron]

I don't like it because it's not real. Like. Like the revenue is going to demand that these things happen. My thing, Matt, is everyone will make it illegal. But where's the money coming from to execute all this? That. That's the part that doesn't make sense to me. There's a financial gap in this whole conversation.

[Co-host/Analyst]

The ncaa, by the way, has said they support this,

[Myron]

of course, because they're not the schools who got to come up with all the money to make it work. So I'm curious to see how it's executed.

[Matt]

Well, it is.

[Co-host/Analyst]

This is something, if you care about college sports, you should follow.

[Matt]

It's a huge sport because this, this will.

[Co-host/Analyst]

This will Govern the next 20 years of college sports. And some of these rules are fundamentally changing. Stuff also refuses to say one way or the other whether college athletes should be employees.

[Matt]

That's also important.

[Co-host/Analyst]

It gives college athletes still the chance

[Matt]

to Argue that they're employees. Be back.

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Yeah, I have other Christina songs I like better and we don't have to get into which ones they are, but I, I'm. But I do like Christina Aguilera. I thought Myron's more of a Mandy Moore guy.

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events all in one place, anytime, anywhere. Two o' clock is the event. Of course, that's because of the time change because you know, it's.

[Myron]

What time is it over there? About six.

[Co-host/Analyst]

It would be seven or eight depending on where you are.

[Matt]

In Europe it can be five or six hours difference.

[Myron]

Do Europeans hate that about it? Like when they have to adjust to our time?

[Co-host/Analyst]

Probably, yeah, probably. But you know, at the, at the

[Matt]

World cup this year, they're going to be adjusting the other way some, you know, like we're going to.

[Co-host/Analyst]

There's some games that will kick off,

[Matt]

but Myron here in America at midnight

[Co-host/Analyst]

and they're doing that because it's in

[Matt]

the good time slot for people that are wherever the game is being played.

[Myron]

Yeah, I don't, I don't approve of that. I don't like that.

[Matt]

You don't think we should change to accommodate our friends overseas.

[Myron]

Just get up early. I don't know what to tell you. I mean, if you're serious about your team, figure it out.

[Matt]

Okay.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Are you excited about the World cup, by the way? We are only.

[Myron]

Just.

[Co-host/Analyst]

What are we? We are 11 days away from starting. I don't know if people realize it.

[Myron]

I just, I just Bought a World cup preview book at the bookstore. I got a Columbia jersey. I got a Japan jersey.

[Matt]

You bought a.

[Co-host/Analyst]

You bought a World cup preview book at the bookstore?

[Myron]

The bookstore? Yeah. I went to the bookstore the other day and bought a World Cup. What was it?

[Co-host/Analyst]

I mean, World cup preview.

[Myron]

A magazine. I'm sorry? World cup preview magazine.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I was about to say a book had to be published, like, six months ago.

[Myron]

No magazine.

[Co-host/Analyst]

A magazine for what?

[Myron]

What.

[Co-host/Analyst]

What magazine?

[Matt]

You don't hear a lot of those anymore.

[Myron]

It's a World cup preview. It has every team, every country, so I'm just learning all the stuff.

[Matt]

But, like, who put it out?

[Co-host/Analyst]

Who put it out?

[Myron]

US Athlon, I think it is. But, you know, I'm just trying. I'm trying to figure out what team to root for a little bit, you know, like.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Well, how about you start with the United States?

[Myron]

Of course. Fine, you get them. But, like, who are the other fascinating stories that you're interested in?

[Co-host/Analyst]

Well, do you have any that, like, you have some family connection to, or.

[Myron]

No? I got a Columbia jersey. I was at a store in Vegas, and this woman was like, oh, Columbia. I'm from Columbia. She was like, I love the jersey. And I. I was like, oh. She was talking to me about Colombia.

[Matt]

So that was all you needed, was you need to meet a woman in

[Myron]

Vegas through that connection. I feel like I'm connected to Colombia.

[Co-host/Analyst]

All right.

[Myron]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Well, there's some interesting stories. I mean, the smallest country to ever make it is in it. Cape Verde. Curacao. Curacao is in it.

[Matt]

Obviously, you've got the international story with

[Co-host/Analyst]

Iran coming here as well. And then you have, you know, just all kinds of interesting little tidbits. You're gonna have a game in Boston, Scotland versus Haiti.

[Matt]

I'll be interested to see how their fans interact with each other.

[Co-host/Analyst]

There's gonna be a lot of good stuff.

[Myron]

What's the security gonna be like for that? I mean, that's.

[Co-host/Analyst]

That's. That could be an international from Scotland and Haiti. Do you think they, like, hang out with each other? What do they do?

[Myron]

I think there's gonna be a frank first for both sides. This is gonna be a first time for everything, so.

[Matt]

Well, next week, by the way, just so you know, I'm going to do our official Matt Myron World cup preview. I'm gonna give you. This is my prep I'm doing between now and next week. I'm gonna give you one fact about all the countries in the World cup next week. I hope you're ready.

[Myron]

For that one fact about every country.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, just like one little fact, not necessarily about sports team, but just something about the country that you might not

[Myron]

know who's favored to win it all.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I actually don't really know.

[Matt]

I mean I would assume like Germany

[Myron]

or Brazil or Germany, England, France.

[Matt]

Actually, I think France might be favored. I think France is, is favored.

[Myron]

I saw that people were upset about some Brazilian guy got a spot. Neymar Neymarrito or something like that. You got a spot over like first

[Matt]

of all, there was, there was a guy named Neymar. I think he retired a long time.

[Myron]

Okay. There's a, there's a guy that got a spot on the Brazilian national team and there was a lot of controversy about whether or not they gave it to him because of his legacy over guys who deserved it more. So there's a whole big.

[Matt]

You think his name is Neymar Eto Neymarito. You just added Ito to the.

[Myron]

What is like. Well, the Brazilian, they do single names, right? I think it's Neymar Ito.

[Matt]

Rachel, you see if you can find out what he's talking about. Okay, See if you can find out someone. What he's talking about. Who made the Brazilian team in a controversy.

[Sports Analyst]

Spain plus 475 to win the World Cup.

[Matt]

They have that stamp, that like 17 year old kid or whatever that's on their team.

[Sports Analyst]

Francis right behind him at plus 500.

[Myron]

And then Messi. Is Messi on that squad? Is Messi.

[Matt]

He's on Argentina. He has not switched his citizens since, since the Last one.

[Sports Analyst]

Argentina +900.

[Myron]

Why do I have him in Spain? He played for Real Madrid. Is that why?

[Matt]

He maybe did, but, but he's. But he's been Argentinian and they won it the last time, so you should, you should keep up. Now the NBA finals will begin this week. It is going to be Knicks and Spurs.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Let's just. Myron, who's the favorite? Who, who do you think? Who do you think's got the best

[Matt]

chance to take it down?

[Myron]

It'll be the Knicks. I think it will be favored. I mean they beat them in the regular season 2 to 1. They've been on one of the craziest streaks we've ever seen. For people that don't realize, the Knicks are literally playing some of the best basketball we've ever seen. In their 11 game streak, 11 game winning streak, they are plus 262, which is the greatest plus minus ever in NBA history. And I just think they are on a tear. They dominated the spurs the last time they played, I believe it was in March. And I don't know, man, they're. They're more experienced, they're more, they're well rested. And I think everything that San Antonio has, the Knicks have, but with more experience outside of Wimby, they can't overcome that talent gap. But everything else. Advantage Knicks on DraftKings.

[Sports Analyst]

Spurs are -205 to win.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, I thought the spurs would be the favorite.

[Matt]

I'm surprised.

[Myron]

I'm surprised.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Well, I mean, I'm not surprised.

[Matt]

I mean, they have, you know, I mean, they have home court. They are, I think objectively the better team.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I think the Knicks.

[Myron]

How do you say that, though? What do you, what does that mean, though?

[Co-host/Analyst]

Well, I mean, I just think if you. Okay, let's just go player for player. I mean, if you look at both

[Matt]

teams, best players, I think Jalen Brunson's great. I'm taking Wimby over Jalen Brunson.

[Co-host/Analyst]

You look at the second best player. I mean, you know, you could make a case for Carl, you could make a case maybe for, for Castle, but then you go beyond that. 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. I think the spurs just are far better in 3 through 7 maybe than the, than the Knicks.

[Myron]

You, you all, you always get on guys about overreacting and maybe getting a little too recency bias. This, this feels a little bit like that to me.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Only because first of all, you had

[Matt]

the Knicks losing in the first round. I at least had the Knicks getting to the championship. You did not.

[Myron]

I was wrong about the Knicks. I will say that. I was wrong about the Knicks. Right now they're playing some of the best basketball we've ever seen. They've been the better offensive team if you look at the metrics. They've been the better defensive team if you look at the metrics. And the last time they faced off, they destroyed the San Antonio Spurs. I think part of what happened with Wimby. You're not going to stop them. We all know that. But Carl, Anthony Towns, Mitchell Robinson, that's a different thing. It is then Isaiah Hartenstein and totally agree with that.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Totally agree with that.

[Matt]

Although I will say, I mean Carl, it's.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Carl's not. I mean, Mitchell Robinson is going to be huge.

[Matt]

The broken finger. We have to see what happens with that.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I mean, I agree with you.

[Matt]

He's huge.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I can totally see the Knicks winning.

[Matt]

I'm actually pulling for the Knicks, but

[Co-host/Analyst]

I do think I would make the

[Matt]

Spurs a slight favorite.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Now, Rachel, did you look up what's happening with the Brazilian soccer team?

[Rachel]

Yes. So there is some controversy with their roster this year.

[Myron]

When Neymar Rito. Is that his name?

[Rachel]

Honestly, I only see one name. Neymar. Yeah, he was.

[Co-host/Analyst]

But is it Neymar like 60?

[Rachel]

It just says Neymar was named to the Brazil's 26 World cup squad. I told you his play has not been great recently. I told you he was. Apparently he suffering from muscle edema, which came out just after.

[Myron]

I got it right.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

Announced.

[Rachel]

But they coach, the coaches staff says that they knew about it when he was selected and then just before or just after. I'm trying to read and talk at the same time. There was a substitution mix up where the fourth official apparently unintentionally raised the board to sub him off when a different player was supposed to leave.

[Matt]

That's just an individual game.

[Co-host/Analyst]

So lots of Neymar is on the team.

[Myron]

And that's the contrary. I got it right. I told y', all, nobody's giving me credit for getting a soccer thing right. And I don't like it. I got it right and nobody's ringing any bells or playing any noise. I got it right.

[Sports Analyst]

Whose name? Marita, though.

[Myron]

Well, I. I said Neymar or Neymarito. There's a Rito on the Brazilian team. I don't know. There's a Rito, there's an e. There's something Rito. But I said Neymar. I said Neymar and I got it right. And nobody ranging controversy is that nobody said good job.

[Co-host/Analyst]

But Neymar is like a legendary player.

[Matt]

I thought he was older than this, but I guess he is not. All right.

[Rachel]

Is Neymar Santos. Yeah. Santos Jr. So Myron, that name was half made

[Myron]

up, but it's fine.

[Rachel]

You were right.

[Matt]

All right, so there you go.

[Myron]

You notice how you ought to like poke a little bit and then you said you were right. Nobody can just say, myron, you got that right. Like you all are incapable of saying, myron got a soccer thing right. Let's all cheer, play a sound.

[Rachel]

The magazine worked. Good job, Myron.

[Myron]

I mean, what do I mean to get credit?

[Co-host/Analyst]

I don't know.

[Matt]

I feel like you still didn't. I feel like you still probably were wrong. But the.

[Co-host/Analyst]

But the World cup, the. The favorite is Spain and then France is second. They're going to be.

[Matt]

There are a.

[Co-host/Analyst]

You've also got Germany, England, Brazil, Argentina, Portugal. The longest shots, which you need to

[Matt]

pick one of these.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Here are the five longest shots. Jordan is 200. Is 2500 to 1.

[Myron]

Oh, wow.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Curacao, Haiti, Iraq, New Zealand and Qatar. All of those teams are at least 1500 to 1.

[Myron]

Yeah. You know, I think I'll probably go with give me Qatar because I think, you know, you're going to have the best resources.

[Matt]

They're going to have to say you're always going for the money you're looking for. You're looking for a week long trip, aren't you?

[Myron]

Yeah, if I can get in with it, you know. Yeah, I'd love to.

[Matt]

I'm gonna go with New Zealand.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I went out recently with a woman from New Zealand.

[Matt]

She was very nice. And so I'm going to take New Zealand as my dark horse pick. Give me the. The Kiwis. How about that?

[Myron]

Listen, it's going to be that. Now that to me is if one of those upsets happen, I would love to see that. Like, I want to see the underdogs win every single match in the World Cup.

[Matt]

One person writes, matt, there's a game going around online that has people see if they can point on a map to where the countries are that are in it. Does Byron think he would do well in that game?

[Myron]

Yes, I was.

[Co-host/Analyst]

If I told you.

[Matt]

Oh, really?

[Co-host/Analyst]

So if I told you, Jordan, you

[Matt]

could tell me where Jordan is?

[Myron]

Here's the problem. From the time I was in school, they got new countries.

[Matt]

You didn't answer the question.

[Myron]

They got new countries and some of the countries have moved. I don't know. Like some of the countries have moved. They've got new, they've got new lines. Not moved. But there's just different things. The globe doesn't look the same.

[Matt]

Are you suggesting like Sweden has moved?

[Myron]

No, I'm just saying the globe doesn't look the same as it did when I was a kid. So.

[Matt]

Okay. Do you think you would know where Curacao is?

[Myron]

Yes, I would never. Curacao.

[Matt]

What. What continent?

[Myron]

It's. It's. It's in the Caribbean. So it's in the, it's in the, it's somewhere over there. Aruba area.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Somewhere over there.

[Myron]

It's by Aruba, I believe.

[Matt]

All right, what about Uzbekistan?

[Myron]

Uzbekistan is in that part that's been, you know, they drew some new lines after the Soviet Union thing. So it's in that little. It's in that mix, you know. It's in that area.

[Matt]

All right, that's what they liked is when you say you all are in that mix. The NBA playoffs are on ESPN Radio. You can catch the NBA Finals on ESPN Radio. The ESPN app beginning Wednesday with game one. Coverage begins at 7:30 Eastern. Presented by Gusto. We will make our picks for the NBA Finals and other things. That's next here.

[Podcast Intro/Outro Voice]

Matt and Myron, the podcast.

[Matt]

This is Matt Myron here on ESPN Radio. I want to see what you think about this. A guy named James on Twitter he writes. I hope this can be taken without disrespect.

[Myron]

Oh.

[Matt]

At KY Sports Radio is a Kentucky guy.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Kind of seems like a blank.

[Matt]

He's on Sunday mornings on ESPN with a guy named Myron. But it is brilliant radio. Is that. Is that disrespectful?

[Myron]

Listen, brother.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Kinda seems like a blank.

[Matt]

I can't say what that word is. Listen.

[Myron]

If the support helps to check.

[Matt]

Clear.

[Myron]

I'm with whatever you got to say, baby. You know I'm with whatever you think. You got to listen to hate. You know you got to listen. So I'm with.

[Co-host/Analyst]

That's right.

[Matt]

As long as you is the is the money is the same. You've always been kind of money centric. So I'm glad. I'm glad. Glad to hear that. Eight, eight, eight, say espn. Although don't call because we're going off the air.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Go ahead.

[Matt]

It's time to take your pick.

[Podcast Intro/Outro Voice]

Take your pick.

[Matt]

You take your pick.

[Podcast Intro/Outro Voice]

It's time to take your pick with Matt and Myron.

[Matt]

All right, let's get started. What's up first?

[Sports Analyst]

Yeah, let's start MLB Braves at Reds. Braves favorite in this one, Spencer Strider on the mountain for them. Nick Lodolo on the mound for the Reds. When you got here.

[Matt]

Yeah, the Reds stink right now. They, they. We. We can't pitch. We can't hit the Braves. Spencer Strider.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I don't know.

[Matt]

I'm surprised this line is as close as it is. I would go heavy on the Braves and you're talking to someone that's a red season ticket holder.

[Myron]

I mean, it feels like the Braves are definitively the best team in baseball.

[Matt]

I think so, yeah.

[Myron]

You know, and obviously the Dodgers are doing what they do in the Yankees, but it feels like they're a step ahead. And I think that continues with another win.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Rest in peace. Bob Horner, the Red. The Braves, they've lost Bobby Cox, Ted

[Matt]

Turner and Bob Horner in the last two months. There's a team of destiny. It may be Atlanta. What's next?

[Sports Analyst]

The brewers at the Astros. Brewers are the favorites here. They have Jacob Mizarowski on the mound.

[Matt]

This guy's unbelievable. Jacob Mizaroski's thrown like 39 of the 40 fastest pitches in baseball this year for a starter. Give me the Brewers. They've seemed to. They're on a.

[Co-host/Analyst]

They're a wagon right now.

[Matt]

Myron.

[Myron]

I'm with the Brewers. I know, you know, people are upset about their celebrations and whether or not they're going too far.

[Co-host/Analyst]

What you think, what do you think

[Matt]

about that guy giving the DX chop? That was a little much. Wasn't.

[Myron]

May be a step past the line, but you don't want to get to a place where you're kind of not chopping people. Give me. Give me the Brewers. Give me the Brewers.

[Matt]

I kind of liked it, but his manager said he'll never do it again. We'll see. I hope he does. I hope he just does it next time. What's next?

[Sports Analyst]

If my high school was. Was run Major League Baseball, we, I would have been.

[Matt]

Oh, we did it all the time. I did it after an academic team match.

[Sports Analyst]

Exactly.

[Matt]

I looked over at Everts and gave him the DX chop after I was able to spell gallbladder. What's next?

[Myron]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst]

Sunday night baseball on ESPN radio covers begins at 6:30pm Eastern. Cubs at Cardinals. Matt, who have here.

[Matt]

I actually did win a spelling bee on gallbladder once.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Cubs had lost like 10 straight until

[Matt]

a night or two ago. I think the Cardinals get it at home tonight. Give me. Give me the Cardinals.

[Myron]

Correct me if I'm wrong. I believe the Cubs are the first Major League Baseball team to have a 10 game winning streak and a 10 game losing streak.

[Matt]

And they did it in the first 60 games of the year. Both of them. Like, that's crazy, man.

[Myron]

Talk about hot and cold. But I think they're hot today. Give me the Cubs.

[Matt]

All right, what's next?

[Sports Analyst]

Stanley Cup Final begins this week on Tuesday, 8 Eastern on ABC. Golden Nights at Hurricanes. Hurricanes are favored to win the series. We're just going to go series here. Who wins the Stanley Cup?

[Co-host/Analyst]

I walked into Montreal and as a thousand people booed me as I walked

[Matt]

in for game three, I looked into

[Co-host/Analyst]

the thousand people's eyes and I said canes in five. Canes in five.

[Matt]

And then they went and did it. I'm going to go with this one

[Co-host/Analyst]

a little bit different.

[Matt]

Give me Canes in six and the Canes end up taking out the Golden Knights. Win our first cup since 2006.

[Myron]

I think it's a seven game series, but I just. It's hard not to be impressed with a Knights team that took out the definitive best team in the regular season in the Avalanche. And they, they did it, you know, without making it look too difficult down the stretch. So I got to take the Gold Knights to win the series.

[Matt]

Give me the Canes. They're a community.

[Myron]

You already said that, though. That was. But it was my. He asked me who I picked. You already said no.

[Matt]

I just wanted to make sure, though, we left good momentum by saying the Canes. So what's next?

[Sports Analyst]

Let's go to the NBA Finals. The Knicks and the Spurs. Game 1 on ESPN Radio at 7:30pm Eastern on Wednesday and also on ABC television. Spurs are the favorites to win minus 205 on DraftKings. Who you got?

[Matt]

Yeah, it's Cl.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I. You know, it could go either way.

[Matt]

I'm pulling for the Knicks, though.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Knicks fans deserve it. Basketball's better when the Knicks are good.

[Matt]

And I would love to see the city of New York after they've won a title. Give me New York.

[Myron]

An emotional Penny and Shaq beat Michael Jordan in the Bulls game six, 1995, to go on to get swept by the Rockets. I just wonder if it's just too much emotion for a young team going up against the Knicks, who are well rested. I think the Knicks win this in six.

[Matt]

Now, that'd be great. Can you imagine if they win in New York in game six? Like, what. What an awesome environment. What's next? By the way, the New York Knicks game six is the exact same time as the World cup game in New York. Can you imagine what Penn Station is going to be like during those. You got to get to Penn Station to get to the Meadowlands. And then you got. I mean, like, that's why you live

[Myron]

in New York, though, man, I. I

[Matt]

want to go to New York just to be there for that. Go ahead, James.

[Sports Analyst]

Clash in Italy today. Biggest match on the card, arguably rematch from WrestleMania 42. Brock Lesnar, Oba, Femi. Who you got here?

[Matt]

I'm going to go. I know Myron wants to take Oba, so I'm going to take him, too. That makes sense. To push Brock. Oba's the future. Give me Oba.

[Myron]

Oba. Only because they're setting up Brock SummerSlam Minneapolis, where I think that's his retirement match. So Oba wins this. I think to set.

[Matt]

Well, then it would make sense.

[Myron]

Brock wins this. I'm sorry. Brock wins this. To set up the retirement match you picked against Obra, you got to set up SummerSlam in Minneapolis with Brock. This is the moment to do it.

[Matt]

All right, well, listen, a lot of fun. Myron. Game day is next.

[Co-host/Analyst]

A rare Zaslow and Zaslo appearance.

[Matt]

We'll see you later. This is Matt Myers here on espn.

[Podcast Intro/Outro Voice]

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[Myron]

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