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This is Matt and Myron, the podcast.
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It's Matt Myron on ESPN Radio. Tune in for baseball action tonight. The Braves host the Guardians. That's right, Braves and guardians. Only 150 games left. Coverage of Sunday Night Baseball begins at 6:30 Eastern on ESPN Radio. And the ESPN app, we have a text machine where you can send messages. 772-774-5254. We also have Twitter and a guy named Luke Wrot. I thought you'd like it. He said, I don't think it's a stretch to say Matt Myron is by far the best show on sports radio. And it's not particularly close. The dynamic is pitch perfect. Getting to hang out with these guys who feel like your buddies and laugh for three hours. Well, Luke, you are our buddy and we thank you very much. That's the, that's the goal, right? That was very nice.
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I appreciate it.
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You know, normally people just get on Twitter and tell me, you know, I'm the worst. So when people say something nice, I feel like that's good to share.
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Yeah, you don't hear a lot of that on. On. So, yeah, now we appreciate that. That's. That's the goal of the show, is to make sure you're sitting around with everybody.
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Take sports too seriously. Why. Why is everybody yelling each other? One person writes, matt, I've listened to you all for a long time. I feel like I know Myron pretty well, even though I've never met him. It surprises me that he likes the Masters so much. He sometimes talks about places feeling like they're not really for him. I would have thought Augusta national would be the kind of place that he wouldn't have thought, like, was. Am I wrong? Great question. Did you see the bit. The message that Larry David sent talking about Augusta National?
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Yeah.
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That's kind of how I feel, by the way. But you seem to like the exclusivity and sort of country clubishness of it.
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I mean, I wouldn't go to the parties, but, you know, but would you
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want to go to a place where they call the guy that runs it chairman?
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I mean, that, that the uppity stuff is a lot, but I think watching on tv, it is one of those bucket list, like, of the 10 things you could do in sports.
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But if you were to say, what part of America in 2026, is it still celebrated to be like, elitist, exclusive privilege.
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Yeah.
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Wouldn't the Masters be like, the one thing that we still somehow like. Well, that's cool.
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's it's where we kind of like, we can be hypocrites for a weekend, right? Like all the things they're about in regular life, we'd be like, come on, that's not cool. But, you know, for four days in April,
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would you call the guy chairman? Because like, the people who aren't even members call him chairman. Like that's normal. Like, I refuse. We've talked about this. I refuse to call coaches that I don't play for. Coach.
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Yeah.
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Like, I don't. I would never do that. Like, I would never go up to a high school coach and be like, how you doing, coach? Like, like, like. But would you go and call this dude chairman?
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Yeah, I mean, I guess if. Again, for the masses of. Though if those were the rules, I. I will say.
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Oh, so you would do it?
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Well, I guess if you would call
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him chairman to follow the rules.
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If those are the rules of a private group gets to have its own.
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So you think a private group could do whatever they want? I don't think you're careful with your words.
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Here I am just talking to my friend and I end up somehow on a 2024. Seven News debate. Somehow you just keep going into lawyer mode. All I'm telling you is if those were the rules I would follow. I will say I'm looking at all the people with folding chairs. I don't see a ton of diversity. You know what I mean? It's not, it's.
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I mean, it's not, it's not. We are the world.
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Right? It doesn't. It doesn't look like everybody was invited to this event. I must, I must say, maybe the
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only place in America where people would go out in public for a semi social event wearing polo shirts, buttons all the way up. That's true. No one does that except there.
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How do they get away with the cheap food? Like, how do they in 2026 still.
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Because they do $165 million worth of merchandise.
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Is that what it is?
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Yeah, I mean, that's what I need to make. They don't need to make the money for. But even the food being cheap is a little like, okay, you're bragging about that, but that shirt cost $135.
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You know, I didn't. It's almost like a F1. I was in Vegas when F.1 was there and there were a lot of stores selling F1 merchandise and I couldn't believe the cost of official.
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But it's the master stuff you can't buy except at the masters. Like you can't go to Costco and get a mass. A master shirt. You have to get it there. Or I guess you can maybe order it online. I don't know. But yeah, it's a different thing.
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So here's a bucket listing. It's a bucket list item.
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Have you been.
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No, I want.
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I want to go because it's on. It's on my bucket list. I've done Super Bowl. I've done a lot of events I've wanted to do, but that's one of the few I have not.
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Well, I've been. I don't know if you know this about me. In 2013, I did my radio show live for a week from the Maxim House at the Masters. Did you know that?
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Oh, don't tell McAfee. I didn't realize. I didn't realize you got. You had access like that to the Master.
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Yeah. So my friend Drew Franklin and I, we did that show. Well, I. I'm not gonna say the golfer's name because they still play golf, but. But this is a true story. We. We were. The only people allowed in this house were like, rich celebrities, the Maxim models and me and Drew. Right. And then golfers could come, but most golfers didn't come because it's Masters week. Right. They're focusing. There was one particular golfer that. That, in round one, shot very well. They were in the top. I don't want to say what it was, because I just told you the year, but they were towards the top.
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Okay.
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And then they came into the house after their round.
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Okay.
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And let's just say watching them, I was thinking, what time's your tea time?
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Yeah, got.
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And then the next day they come out and play, and they shot like, 15 over.
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Okay.
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And the announcers would go, I wonder why is he not focused? Like, what. What has happened? And I went, Myron. Yeah, I know what happened. He got distracted at the Maxim house. So sometimes it's things like that that change people's golf score.
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So he was doing well, and then he got. He got in that situation and then just got. Got a little distracted.
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But I went to the course while I was there. It is worth going to, but you will feel a little like it's a little elitist while you're there.
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Yeah, no, everything about it is. But, I mean, golf in general, to the general public, golf in general is still that.
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And look at this transition. But Rory is one person that does transcend that to some extent. Don't you think that the. No, he does. I mean, I Think watching his rise and fall and his collapses and success, I do think that captivates the general sports fan, don't you?
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Yeah, yeah. I mean, but he's still a celebrity. I think the fact that we've been watching Rory for so long.
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Yes.
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I think also the reality is when Tiger has had his troubles over the last 15 years, Rory was the one constant kind of on the tour, feel had issues, like. So Rory's the one person, if you're in your 30s or 40s or 50s, he's been the one constant on the tour over that time as well. So I do think people see him in that light. But, man, when I saw him lose that lead, I was thinking, this is going to be the narrative again.
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But he's the one guy. I mean, I think I use the standard. You've heard me talk about this. Would my mom know who this person is?
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Yes.
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Right. And for me, in golf right now, there's really only two people that meet that standard. Rory. And then honestly, because he got arrested here in Louisville for. For the, you know, the pga. Scotty Scheffler.
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Yeah.
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Wouldn't you say? And, you know, kids know who. Bryson.
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D. Shamp Bryson. The younger generation knows Bryson because he's
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on YouTube, because he's big on YouTube. But wouldn't you agree that if you're golf, you see Rory in first place, you see Scotty just a few shots back, like that's what you want. Because those are the people that the random sports fan has some awareness of.
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Well, and I think, you know, even good stories like Justin Rose, who's been around Shane Lowry, I mean, but nobody
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knows who Justin Rose is, but outside of golf, I mean, like, the average person on the street doesn't know who Justin Rose.
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But I think it's the perfect.
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It.
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To me, it's the perfect mix of the modern golf fan, the old school golf. Everybody has something, I think, for on a Sunday. And I can't think the last time we had this many guys at top the leaderboard that had a real shot who you felt that way about.
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And you mentioned we've seen Rory for a long time. Justin Rose is a guy. I don't know if in America, you know, he could walk down the street in New York and not too many people are going to bother him.
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Yeah.
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But in England, remember, he led the British Open at the age of 18.
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Yeah.
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Like going into the fourth round. So he. And he's now in his 40s. So that's a guy that, if you're a golf Fan. He has sort of spent his whole life in your, in your knowledge bank
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and shout out to his surgeon because he looks the same as he did when he was 18. Like that dude's face is not.
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You think he has a surgeon?
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I think they all have surgeons, but I mean, he looks like.
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All the golfers get plastic surgery on their face.
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All they get older. I think they get tweaks. I'm not saying like Chichi Rodriguez. I'm not saying they're going Kardashian on the thing, but I think they. I think they do tweaks.
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Okay, well, I'm going to watch the tournament today and see which of these golfers guys get tweaks.
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They get tweaks.
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Have you ever gotten tweaks?
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No, no. But I bet these guys all get tweaks here and there.
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All right, well, I'm going to spend the break looking at Justin Rose's face. Look at his face to see if he said tweaks. The transfer portal is going on in basketball. We will talk about. A lot of people think it's the end of the world. I think Myron and I actually think it's really good. What are you laughing at now that
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people are just overreacting to it.
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Oh, to the transfer point. I thought you meant to Justin Rose's tweaks. It's Matt Myron here on ESPN Radio.
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Matt and Myron, the podcast.
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It's Matt Myron here on ESPN Radio. Myron just told me some news during the break. You said Sergio Garcia got the first ever code of conduct warning. First ever code of conduct warning in Masters history. This morning he broke his driver by pounding it on the ground. The master has had never given a code of conduct warning to a player and they've done it. He broke his driver. So now Sergio cannot replace it. He will have no driver for the rest of the thing.
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Yeah, if he, if he gets another warning, two shot penalty. If he gets a third violation, he's disqualified from the Masters.
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Well, it's crazy to me. They've never had one ever in the, in the history of the entire thing.
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Well, but I would think at the Masters you don't expect someone to show that level of frustration, even put themselves in that position.
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One person writes, Matt, I always enjoy every year when the winner of the Masters picks their Masters dinner. What would Myron and you pick for yours?
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That's a good question.
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Yeah, there was. Sometimes they're very foo foo where they have lots of descriptions and then some people just pick steak. The worst one was Bubba Watson, who just had a Caesar salad, like fries and a cheeseburger. What would you do?
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Sauteed and seasoned brussels sprouts.
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You're leading with the Brussels sprouts.
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Okay. Honey glazed pork chops, I think apple slices. Cosmic crisp apples to be.
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Okay, I thought you just meant like apple slices like you take in your school lunch.
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Yeah, Cosmic crisp apples. And then I'm pretty simple. Probably just a side of jasmine rice.
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This is like the least simple menu.
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There was nothing you just said there was.
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Everything I said is simple.
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Jasmine rice.
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Yes.
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Okay. All right. I would probably. I think if I were going to do it, part of my sort of anti establishment nature is I would want to be everything Augusta is against. Right. So I would probably go like skyline chili, you know?
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Yep.
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And wings maybe. Right, yeah. And then. But then also one thing on there that's gonna cost them a ton of money.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You know, just something on there like a wine.
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Yes.
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That is $20,000 a bottle. And they're gonna go, you really want this with your Skyline?
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Yeah.
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Yes,
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I like that.
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That's exactly what I want. All right. So if you're a college basketball fan, you know that the transfer portal has opened, and of the 3,900 players that are eligible to play college basketball next year, 2000 are in the portal. So over half of the Division 1 players are in the portal. Some people have said this is the end of the sport. I've actually enjoy it. It's just a free for all. And you never know who's going to end up on your team. Yeah, Myron, you are college basketball. You cover the national scene. Good or bad transfer portal.
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I think it just is. At the end of the day, it's just the culture. So I do think it's good for the players to have the flexibility to be able to get compensated. I mean, a lot of people are moving up, getting paid more than they were a year ago, which is just. That's. That's the economy like that. That's the American dream. Right. And if the rules allow it, why not take advantage of it? So unless someone tells me that somebody's doing something illegal and all this, why would I be against it now? I also think we make a big deal out of 2000 players, and about 100 of them are going to matter next year in terms of who we talk about, who's pursuing a national championship. So. But overall, if it's. If it's within the rules, why would I be against it?
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I am generally for it because I think the quality of play has been a lot better. I mean, look at the tournament this year. I mean that the quality of playing college basketball this year was the best. It's been. What do you think, myron? Since the 90s. I mean just. If you're just talking about how good these games are and how good these players are, it also gives significantly more teams a chance to win the title. Now people will say mid major teams lose their players and that's true. But there's also a sense now, Myron, where guys go to schools that otherwise would have never gotten a guy with that talent. So the kid, I can't remember his name, but there's a kid at Merrimack College. Where is Merrimack? Does any. I think it's you guys in Bristol that's up your way. Does anybody know where Merrimack is?
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There's the D.C. area, right? AM I mistaken?
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I. I don't know. We'll look it up. Merrimack College has a player who as a freshman was conference player of the year. He averaged 21 points a game and now he's going to go to one of the top schools. But Merrimack got him for a year and he, and people will tell you that if it had been pre portal, he would ended up sitting on the bench at an SEC school his first year. But instead Merrimack got to have this big talent for a year. I think that's good, right? Yes.
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And again, the pay increase. I know a prominent player in this tournament that I won't name who went from making $200,000 at the mid major level to $3.2 million this year. Right. So you're talking about.
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But there's people who say that's bad. I, I don't understand why it's bad,
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but it's like bad for whom? Like at the end of the day, if that's what someone's willing to pay him, I love it. Also, you talk about the quality of play. This is the first generation of NBA level talents that don't feel the pressure of going to the NBA.
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That's exactly right.
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Rather than developing for another year like
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now, you take a kid like Nate Amen at Tennessee, yes, he probably will go to the draft, but he could come back and he would be like the 12th pick. But if he came back, like it's a real decision for him. Whereas years ago, Myron, it would not have been a decision. No.
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And, and now these teams can offer competitive salaries to those NBA rookie deals for those guys who might be late first round, early second round picks. When you see a guy like Jax Lindenberg lead Michigan to the national championship, this is a guy who could have been a late first round pick in 20, 25, goes back to school and now he's going to get picked in the middle.
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So what would you say to people that look at Michigan winning that title and say, okay, five guys, all of whom transferred in no loyalty to the university? What would you say to that?
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I would look them in the eyes and I would say, I just want you to really hear me when I tell you this. Nobody cares, right? That's what I would tell them. Because at the end of the day, this outdated thinking, this, this is wrong for the game. People have moved on. All those guys, Matt, all those coaches who were like, this is terrible. I can't do this. They're gone.
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It's okay. There's a new generation. Dusty May, Todd Golden, Nate Oates, John Shire. There's a new generation of guys.
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If this is. If this is what it is and you don't like it, you can get out. What's interesting to me is all these people are like, I hate it so much, are still taking their same salaries, right? Like, nobody's giving up annual salaries, that they're so disgusted that they can't be a part of this game. So they're like, I refuse to take money to be attached to this. I haven't seen one person do that.
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Merrimack is a private Catholic institution in North Andover, Massachusetts.
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Okay?
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And according to this, it gives hands on real world learning at Merrimack College. So this player was able to go get one year of hands on learning from Merrimack, and now he can go play for a big school and go from there.
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Listen, man, listen. And the, the amount of money people are talking about, oh, these kids don't know what to do with this money. How do you know that?
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Yeah, I love when people go, they don't know what to do with the money. You know what, maybe they'll blow the money, but I think they'll enjoy doing it.
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And what is it to you? Like, you're that concerned about what they're going to do with them?
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There's a great conversation on ESPN during the Final Four with Seth Greenberg, John Calipari and Jay Billis debating this. And J. Billis, to me, made the best case. He was like you, everybody says it's a crisis. Just stop paying him if you don't want to. You know you're going to because it's worth it to you. So you're gonna do it now. Rich Eisen has got to be pretty happy about the transfer portal because it just brought his university a national championship. He's also hosting a throwback Sports center tonight. And to get him ready for it, we will have Rich Eisen next here on Matt Myron on ESPN Radio. Matt Myron, the podcast Matt Marin here on ESPN Radio presented by Progressive Insurance. It is a big night at ESPN R going to return and host Sports Center. You know him from his years of Sports Center. He's on the radio here 12 to 3. He's beloved in the world of sports broadcasting. I have never met Rich, but I'm meeting him here and I also know him as the winner of the ESPN Radio NCAA Bracket Challenge thanks to his pick of his alma mater, Michigan. Are you still on a high, Rich, of having won the title just a few days ago?
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Yeah, I'm psyched. I'm psyched for tonight. I'm psyched for the week. And you know, I know we've never met, but you could just remove the of sports broadcasting from your statement. I'm just beloved of the world.
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That's exactly right. That's a very good point.
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You know, just the world around, you know, not just in one endeavor of the world. I'm beloved all around.
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I love it. I love it. Well, Rich, Meyer, Metcalf, great to meet you as well. What are you most looking forward to about hosting Sports center again?
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I have no idea, man. I'm on i84 for the first time in 23 years. I used to see all the time going back and forth to New York, which is, you know, my hometown. And when I was doing SportsCenter from 96 to 03, I would drive i84 to 284 down to the city. And I'm beginning to have these flashbacks right now. And I'm excited, you know, I'm very excited to do this. And, you know, everybody in management up there in Bristol, Connecticut, have been kind of after me since my show joined the the the World of Disney and ESPN back in September to come do this. And, you know, now I'm doing it and I'm doing it two weeks before a draft that I'll be doing on NFL Network, which is now owned by espn. And, you know, you were kind enough to mention my show, which is a partner of ESPN and ESPN radio, is on from 12 to 3 Eastern every day. So, you know, the way I'm returning is definitely not the way I walked out 23 years ago with a cardboard box in my hand. So I don't know. That's a very loaded question you asked me. I don't know what to expect except, except just excitement to do it.
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It's amazing how life can come full circle. And you know, obviously people know you from SportsCenter, they know you from the NFL Network, etc. I will tell you on a personal level, I'm a radio guy.
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Sure.
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Like, I love, I love radio. Radio, to me is like the purest form of you got to be talented to do it. And I think you are a master at the art of radio, which I don't think a lot of people can do. And so I'm excited about that. What you've been doing radio for a long. But being back on ESPN and doing that, do you, do you enjoy radio as much as I do actually doing it?
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Yeah, of course. I mean, first of all, I mean, ESPN Radio, the first radio I did was for ESPN Radio in my career when, when I was asked to host the studio show of the beginning of the advent of Major League Baseball on ESPN Radio. ESPN and ESPN Radio acquired the Major League Baseball and believe it was 96 when I arrived. And they asked me to be the studio host for it. And it was an honor and a pleasure and put me in so many different places for ESPN from World Series to standing behind home plate for the 1999 All Star Game festivities of the all century team being introduced before the All Star Game. And it was my job to, to host that from behind home plate. I was standing about 10ft behind Carlton Fisk as he took the ceremonial first pitch from, from Ted Williams being held up by Tony Gwynn and, and, and Ken Griffey Jr. And it was my job to describe the action or in that case, just be quiet and let the crowd do the talking. And I love it. And in terms of, you know, what I do for a living on the television side of things, the code that everybody's trying to crack is how do you reach fans? How do you connect with a fan when you're doing television? And you know, for a while, long while it was, well, let's, let's show somebody's tweet or a post. And that's the way we're connecting with a fan. The fan is commenting on something we're covering or talking about. And here's the tweet. But with radio, it's like, here's the phone number, you know, like, here's the way to talk with a fan and a fan with you. And there's no other medium that can do that with that connection. And I love that every day.
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Rich, when you host Sports Center, I imagine the top story is going to be whatever unfolds here in the Masters. Rory had the largest lead ever after two rounds and then had a rough third round. What do you think today means for him? I know he has the green jacket, but still feels like a compelling moment in his legacy.
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Well, I mean, obviously he's front and center because, you know, he has a chance to repeat after having never done it before and. And then got out to what appeared to be not just house money, but Butler cabin money that he was playing with. Right. And. And then yesterday happened. And that's the beauty of the Masters is no lead is safe the way the course is laid out, that no deficit is too large to be made up because the holes, as they're laid out, you can catch up fast and the front runner can fall apart just as fast. And so right now, to have the leaderboard the way it's laid out is awesome. And it's part of the reason why I'm getting to Bristol as soon as I can today because I'm going to find some seat in front of some television and put my feet up and watch the back nine of the Masters and get ready to talk to Van Pelt about it, longtime friend of mine, certainly from back in the day. And then there's the NBA doubleheader tonight as the NBA playoff field will be set by the time we go on the air. And just again, just to talk about how crazy things are in our world broadcasting, you know, inside the NBA is going to be on the air leading into the sports Center. So I can't believe it that I'll be sitting there tonight. But I'm also excited, like I said, to have all of these storylines being front and center to boil down to 90 minutes of SportsCenter old school version. We're going to do it with the old music, the old graphics, just like I did the one back in August, and just highlights galore. Just go for it. I also have tonight talking NFL Draft, which is in a week and a half, and my colleague to come on to zoom in to talk about it is Daniel Jeremiah, because again, NFL Networks now owned by espn. So we're going to promote the NFL Network coverage of the draft on SportsCenter, something that I again never thought possible when I was leaving ESPN and hired by the NFL Network a couple weeks later. Life is amazing. TV life is amazing. And hopefully fans will be tuning in
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to hang out Talking to Rich Eisen. He will host SportsCenter tonight at midnight from Bristol. I gotta ask you this. As a child or in teenager of that era, you know, when we come to Bristol, Myron and I, to do stuff, I mean, I'm still like, I walk around in the building just, it just, even though it's not the nice, like the most ambiance building, it does have a history that I can just, you can just feel. And so tell me what you're there during the heyday. You're there in the sports center, you know, the. When we all remember it. Tell me what it was like every day. Was it as fun as people listening? Hope it was.
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Sure. I mean, it was, it was just as exciting as, as all get out. Certainly for me, I was a 26 year old hired from Reading, California, and the number of people in the newsroom on my first day when I looked around at ESPN were outnumbered the number of people that were in my entire TV outfit in Reading. And it was a dream come true. It was like winning the lottery, walking around and seeing all the colleagues who were there were the people who I was emulating in college and hoping to be a colleague of theirs one day and not believing I was 1996. And it was just a different time, you know, tonight when I'm doing SportsCenter and I'm showing the highlights of the Masters, there's no question in my mind that people will have already seen these highlights and not just already seen them, but seen them, you know, in real time in the palm of their hands. You know, Rory makes an amazing shot. It'll be sent out as some sort of an alert or you might be watching on the Masters app, which is awesome. And you know, you're seeing it as live. You might be streaming it on your phone, watching it as I did in the airport coming up from St. Jude yesterday, where I did my run prior to doing this show. And you know the cleats, the custom cleats I got for the St. Jude Charity Run that I do every year made by a fellow named Jarvis in Memphis, Tennessee, which is where St. Jude is. The, the cleats, one cleats said just call him Butter and the other one said because he's on a roll.
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Nice.
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Which is one of Stewart's most famous lines. And, and that line is a quarter century old and it still lives on. And, and because, you know, as you pointed out kindly, you know, there's a sense of nostalgia from that era. And whenever I'm at a school event for my Kids who are teenagers now, mostly all three of them, someone will come up to me and invariably say that Stuart and I either put them on a school bus in the morning or, you know, help them procrastinate from a college assignment at night or put them to bed finally at four in the morning in college. And sometimes it's one and the same where somebody grew up on a Sports center pairing or watching it when it used to be re aired over and over and over in the morning. So I appreciate you saying that. It's all kinds of awesome. It's also why I'm going to also announce tonight or kind of announced a little bit last year. But tonight I'll be showing a little preview sizzle clip of a podcast series I'm anchoring called this was SportsCenter, where I'm interviewing colleagues of mine from back in the day about their experiences of what it was like in Bristol, basically answering the question you just asked me from their perspective. And I can't wait for that to pop out in the summer and just keep on pressing that nostalgia button because I think a lot of people enjoy it.
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Well, I was there for one of those tapings at the super bowl there with, with, with Berman. It was great. And as someone who was one of those people that you just talked about and also kind of a student of radio, it's great to have you on. Rich, Enjoy tonight. It is Midnight Sports center on espn, the ESPN app, Disney plus. Thank you very much for your time.
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Anytime. You be well. I'll see you soon.
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All right.
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There you go.
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Rich Eisen. That's great for me.
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You know, that's a bucket list thing, man. In our business.
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Yeah. You know, I mean, most people I don't want to talk to, but him, Myron, I actually enjoy. I want to talk to you too, most of the time.
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Okay, that's good. But you know, Legend, he brings up him, Stuart Scott Berman, like we're that generation he's talking about.
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And yeah, I mean, Oberman, Patrick Berman, Rich Eyes and Stuart Scott. Craig Kilborn, Scott Van Pelt. And now Myron Metcalf. It is time for take your pick. Next, we'll pick all the games ready to rock here on ESPN Radio.
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Matt and Myron.
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The podcast Samat Martin on ESPN Radio, presented by Progressive Insurance. Golfers wear some terrible shirts. Sitting here watching Masters.
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Some of that like a bright neon yellow, neon green shirt, that was just terrible.
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Can I give you another thing about the Masters I think is a little pretentious.
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Yeah.
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The outfits they make Caddies wear. Yeah, they do those white like painter suits. Just let them wear normal clothes. Like why do they have to. Why do you have to make them look like they're doing, you know, labor for you? I just, I don't like. I don't like what they make the masters people wear. Just give them regular pants. Why do they have to wear a onesie?
A
Well. And why does it always look like the hottest clothes. Yeah. You could wear on a day like today?
B
And that fit doesn't look good on anyone.
A
It doesn't.
B
It's baggy and 1p. It just feels like all. That's a little.
A
A little. Yeah, it's very, very commercial painter.
B
It is. That's exactly what it is. Get ready for the final day of the NBA regular season. It's prime times countdown to tip off Evan Cohen and Zaz. Oh, I knew Zaz was going to be on there. You can't have a day of radio without Jonathan Zaslow. Saturday at 4 Eastern as they take you up until tip for the eastern conference games and look ahead the playoff scenarios out west. It's prime times countdown to tip off Sunday from 4, 3630 Eastern on ESPN Radio in the ESPN app. It's now time to pick some games and take your pick.
D
Take your pick.
B
You take your pick. It's time to take your pick with Matt and Myron. All right, so Josiah's gonna give us some games, but I'm gonna just start real quick before he goes to it because I don't know if he'll have it. The masters. Is your guy Rory winning or not?
A
I'm gonna go with Sam Burns.
B
Okay.
A
I think Sam Burns played great yesterday, obviously. I think, you know, as much as people talk about a Rory collapse, a bunch of guys behind him played incredibly well yesterday and I think Sam Burns shoots his way to the top and wins.
B
I put 20 hard earned American dollars on Sam Burns before the tournament, plus 2100. And I would love to be able to take what would then be $420 and Myron take you to get, you know, some Skyline or something. So let's get Sam Burns to. To bring it in. What do you think?
A
I like it, man. I like Sam.
B
Go together. Sam Burns is our pick. All right, what's up next, Josiah?
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Sam Burns also still at plus 660.
B
Oh, I can get him at plus 660 right now. Yes.
C
On draft.
D
How.
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How does that work? He's 10 under. He's one back of the lead. 660.
D
Wow.
C
Y Cameron Young at plus 260 and Rory at plus 1 48.
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1 48. That's very specific. All right, what's next?
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All right, we're gonna head to the NBA. A lot of mess to be cleared in the NBA today in terms of seating. We got the Hawks at the Heat. The heat are favorited -205.
B
Yeah. I mean I don't know. They say I feel like like all these games it depends on who plays except big game for the Hawks though because it allows them to keep out of the play in game which I think is the most important. There's probably nobody playing with more on the line today than the Atlanta Hawks. So I'm going to go ahead my and take Atlanta.
A
Well I think you mean m. Miami is in the 10th spot.
B
Atlanta I'm saying but Atlanta would did not have to play in the play in right. Aren't they the Atlanta's five.
A
Atlanta's trying to hold on to the fifth or sixth spot.
B
Yeah, that's what exactly. That way they won't have to play in the play in Fair.
A
It's fair. Yeah. Okay.
B
Why you arguing with me when I got.
A
I'm not. I wasn't trying to argue with you. You know what's hard today is I don't know who's playing. Like that's the weird part.
B
Well, the sauce in the Heat are playing.
A
I know but someone just tweeted that of the people sitting out in the NBA their combined contracts were $2 billion. Like that's right. Are sitting. I think Atlanta wants to stay in that fifth spot. They'll fight to win it. I give me Atlanta to win.
B
One good thing about guys not playing. You get to see. You get to see some names from the past. I saw for the Utah Jazz last night former Kentucky player Oscar Sheepway had 22 and 15.
A
Yeah. I love when we see dudes like
B
I love when they get a chance to do that. Good to see Oscar out there.
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Ball.
B
And what's next?
C
Just want to point out like a good example of like you said. No, we don't know who's playing. The Magic are a -750 favorite over the Celtics. The Hornets -850 over the Knicks.
B
Magic are -750. So who's playing for the Celtics? Robert Parish say are they bringing back
C
everyone is sitting today.
B
I guess Luke Garza clear outs all day.
A
Luke Gar's go put up 58 points today.
B
All right, what's next?
C
Suns at Thunder. Thunder minus 278. I feel like thunder might be sitting people also and they're still febring heavily.
B
This is the game where Jalen Williams proves to Myron he deserved a bobblehead. All right? He's going to come out and he's going to say, myron, my bubbles as good as anybody else's. I think he has a big game. Give me the Thunder to beat whoever the Suns happen to be playing.
A
It's so weird. I mean, they've, they've already sealed that top spot. Nothing to play for. But I don't, I don't. I mean, Phoenix has a lot to play for. Give me Phoenix to win this.
B
What's next?
C
All right, one last one from the NBA. Nuggets at Spurs. Spurs minus 500.
B
How are these teams playing again
C
every week?
B
Times every single week? So you said the spurs are minus 500. Well, that means they're probably playing their full team in the Nuggets or not. So I will take the spurs if they're playing everybody.
A
I think these are the kinds of games where the spurs take, like, what I love about the Spurs. They take every game seriously. Right? Like they know they haven't proven anything yet. And I think they'll approach this game.
B
I have a trivia question for you. How many NBA players this year in the whole league played all 82 games? Take a guess.
A
How many NBA players played all 82 games?
B
Yes. I bet 30. 30. Rachel, Josiah, do you want to take a guess how many NBA players played all 82 games?
C
I feel like it's like two or three.
A
I was going to say 10, 18.
B
And three of them were on the Spurs. So to just to Myron's point, three, three of them were on the Spurs. That did it. All right, who's next?
C
All right, let's sneak in one more here. Guardians at Braves on ESPN radio tonight. Sunday Night Baseball. Braves 194 favorites over the Guardians.
B
I'll take the Guardians. They had a decent little start. And you know, Sunday night baseball, I'm going to be tuned in regardless, but let me guard a victory for Cleveland. What do you got?
A
I go with Emmett Golden's Gardos. I gotta, you know, if it's the. If it's the Guardians involved, I'll, I'll call Gardos.
C
Gardos all the time.
A
That's what the song.
B
But it's awful. But thank you all very much for listening.
A
Yeah, man.
B
Thanks to Rich Eisen, everybody. Right, Myron, for his pull tabs and bingo week, Tim Welsh and Brandon Leak gonna throw some curveballs. That's next on ESPN Radio.
A
Thanks for listening. To Matt and Myron the Podcast. You can listen to the show live every Sunday morning at 10:00am Eastern on ESPN Radio, the ESPN app, and on SiriusXM Channel 80. Matt and myron the podcast.
Date: April 12, 2026
Hosts: Matt Jones, Myron Medcalf
Special Guest: Rich Eisen
Podcast: ESPN Radio
This lively hour of "Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron" features a reflection on the culture and quirks of the Masters golf tournament, a spirited discussion of the college basketball transfer portal, and an in-depth interview with broadcasting legend Rich Eisen. The show delves into sports traditions, generational changes in broadcasting, and the evolving landscape for athletes—and even fits in some predictions for NBA games and the Masters.
Timestamps: 00:08–10:12
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Discussion shifts to golf's generational stars—Rory McIlroy, Scotty Scheffler, Justin Rose—and their mainstream recognition.
Myron and Matt muse about the pressure on big names, loss of leads (especially by Rory), and even joke about golfers getting "tweaks" (cosmetic surgery) to maintain their TV appearance.
Timestamps: 10:46–11:44
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Timestamps: 13:23–19:03
Timestamps: 20:21–31:36
Timestamps: 33:51–39:31
The tone is loose, witty, and insider-y—two sports friends riffing and debating with playful teasing and story-trading, keeping things grounded yet insightful, even when industry legends like Rich Eisen drop in.
This episode shines in its blend of humor, sports culture critiques, and real talk on athlete empowerment, with Rich Eisen’s interview offering a blend of nostalgia and industry wisdom. Great for fans craving both serious sports insight and a relatable, hangout vibe.