Hour 3: Vocabulary Lesson

Summary

Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron

Episode: Hour 3 – Vocabulary Lesson
Date: May 17, 2026
Hosts: Matt Jones & Myron Medcalf | Guest: Emmett Golden (ESPN Cleveland)

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Episode Overview

This lively episode features Matt, Myron, and guest Emmett Golden breaking down Game 7 of the Cavs-Pistons NBA playoff series, speculating on off-season changes, and sharing insights on the Cleveland Browns’ quarterback drama. The show shifts gears for an extended, humorous “Vocabulary Lesson” on Appalachian and southern slang, culminating in a tournament prediction segment (“Take Your Pick”) covering the weekend’s biggest sports matchups. The rapport is energetic, with good-natured teasing and a playful tone woven throughout.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Cavs-Pistons Game 7: Pressure and Fallout

[01:35–06:34]

• Emmett Golden’s Disappointment:
  • The Cavaliers lost a pivotal home game, leading to a high-stakes Game 7.
  • Emmett bristles at the lazy cliche "they just wanted it more," but concedes that, this time, Detroit did out-hustle the Cavs.
  • There’s skepticism about Cleveland’s ability to flip the switch for the decider:

    “The Cavaliers are going to need their star players to be star players, and if they do that, I’m confident that they could win...I’m just not necessarily confident.” (Emmett, 01:56)

• James Harden & Donovan Mitchell Under the Microscope:
  • Emmett criticizes Harden’s turnovers as the team’s Achilles' heel—“He can't drop the ball." (Emmett, 05:05)
  • Both hosts debate how much Game 7 means for Harden’s and Mitchell’s legacies.
• Potential Offseason Moves:
  • Emmett re-examines his past reluctance to trade Mobley for a superstar:

    “Would you trade Evan Mobley for Giannis? And I stupidly said, no…I would most certainly do that now.” (Emmett, 03:02)

  • The firing of coach J.B. Bickerstaff, the arrival of Kenny Atkinson, and looming contract discussions for Mitchell signal high expectations—Eastern Conference Finals or bust.

2. Cleveland Browns Quarterback Saga

[06:34–09:31]

• Local feeling favors Shador Sanders over Deshaun Watson, though both are in the mix for QB1.
• Dylan Gabriel is “the most disrespected athlete in sports” per Emmett, often overlooked despite harmless performance (08:10).
• The hosts agree that Browns fans are weary of “tanking for a quarterback”—they crave competitiveness, not just draft picks.

  “Since ‘99, that strategy has failed us.” (Emmett, 08:46)

3. Appalachian & Southern Vocabulary Lesson

[23:38–34:40]

• A playful and insightful segment as Matt introduces Myron (and listeners) to phrases from his Appalachian background.
• Myron is alternately bemused and fascinated; Emmett and producer Renee jump in to compare with southern Black phrasing.

Sample Words & Explanations:

• Holler: A small community in a mountain valley (24:21–25:14)

• Wallerin’: Rolling or messing around in mud (25:21–25:53)

• Yuns/Yinz: Plural of ‘you’ (southern/Appalachian, like “you all”) (26:23–27:07)

• Yonder: Over there (27:31–27:41)

• Directly: Soon, “sometime in the near future” (27:45–28:39)

• Plum: Very, as in “plum stupid” (28:49–29:47)

• Fixin’ to: About to do something (29:49–30:06)

• Wasper: A wasp (31:13–31:40)

• As all get out: Extremely, “crazy as all get out” (31:52–32:12)

• Hankering: Craving, wanting something badly (31:35–31:48)

• Can’t shoot a lick: Really bad at shooting (32:12–32:28)

• Walking around sense: Basic common sense (37:03–37:30)

• Myron: “Some of these words...I bet, you know, some of this stuff is...” Matt: “But Mississippi’s kind of…” (31:25–31:29)

• The segment ends as Myron invents “diplin’” to mean partying—a tongue-in-cheek look at how language evolves (33:35–34:13).

4. NFL Schedule Release & Social Media Hype

[17:24–22:24]

• The hosts recap the trend of NFL teams releasing schedule-announcement videos with viral/comedic angles.
• Titans are hailed as the OGs; Chargers’ Halo crossover impresses, but Matt questions the saturation:

  “Once everyone tries to be funny, it almost makes it to where none of them were.” (Matt, 18:23)

• Discussion on “the line” in schedule jokes about public figures (e.g., Vrabel, Rossini)—Myron on not making it personal, Matt on how sports media sometimes tiptoes around controversy.

5. Rivalry Week in MLB

[14:14–16:55]

• The MLB’s effort to manufacture city/region rivalries—some feel forced (Padres-Mariners?), while others have deep roots (Cubs-White Sox, Yankees-Mets).
• Matt and Myron playfully quibble over what qualifies as a real rivalry vs. a schedule convenience.

6. NBA MVP Announcement & Era Debates

[23:02–23:40]

• Shai Gilgeous-Alexander wins a second consecutive MVP:

  “This is the greatest era of the NBA that we’ve ever seen.” (Myron, 23:37)

• Some debate as to whether this is hyperbole or accurate (Matt: “Whoa. That’s a strong statement.”)

7. Sports Picks (Take Your Pick Segment)

[36:58–44:59]

• The hosts and Renee rapid-fire predictions for the day’s action, including:
  • PGA Championship:
    • Matt on Ludwig Åberg: “I'm doubling down. Ludwig Abird can win me two grand today” (38:12)
    • Myron favors John Rahm for experience.
  • WNBA:
    • Consensus: Aces and Fever to win.
    • Discussion of Asia Wilson’s dominance; shout-outs to Cheryl Miller and Sue Bird.
  • MLB/NHL/NBA:
    • Pirates with Paul Skenes lauded as generational talent—“Are we watching young Nolan Ryan, Roger Clemens?”
    • Yankees picked enthusiastically due to nostalgia over pitcher “Elmer.”
    • Cavs generally given edge over Pistons in Game 7 with the feeling that jobs and legacies hang in the balance.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On pressure in Cleveland sports:

  “If you lose in the second round again, they're going to say, we need LeBron, we need Giannis, we need probably a new squad…”
  (Emmett, 05:50)

• On James Harden:

  “It's not like James Harden doesn't have to drop 50...He can't drop the ball.” (Emmett, 05:05)

• Myron on regional slang & Myron’s cultural surprise:

  “When y’all were making up these words, there was nobody in town with a dictionary.” (Myron, 28:15)
  “I just created a word.” (Myron, 34:13, on inventing ‘diplin’’)

• Matt, on forced rivalry games:

  “The Padres are not rivals with the Mariners.” (Matt, 16:47)

• Myron, on the NBA talent pool:

  “This is the greatest era of the NBA that we’ve ever seen.” (23:37)

• On wasps in the mountains:

  “You go outside, you got to watch out for the waspers.” (Matt, 30:40)

• On “walking around sense”:

  “You don’t even have walking around sense. That just…that’s just somebody trying to tell you you’re dumb.” (Matt, 37:15)

• Matt on betting superstitions:

  “I love a guy named Elmer. You just don’t hear a lot of Elmer’s left.” (Matt, 42:47)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Cavs-Pistons Game 7 fallout & offseason speculation: 01:35–06:34
• Browns QB situation & “tank fatigue”: 06:34–09:31
• NFL schedule release video trend: 17:24–22:24
• MLB Rivalry Week chat: 14:14–16:55
• Vocabulary Lesson (Appalachian words): 23:38–34:40
• Take Your Pick (full sports picks segment): 36:58–44:59

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Tone and Style

The hosts blend sports insight with laid-back, country-flavored humor—banter is lighthearted, and no topic is too small for their scrutiny. The “Vocabulary” segment especially showcases their chemistry, with Matt hamming it up and Myron half-baffled, half-amused. Frequent asides, teasing, and impersonations give the show an inviting, casual Sunday-morning vibe—you feel like you’re at the table with friends, coffee in hand.

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For New Listeners

If you missed this episode, expect a blend of candid sports analysis and cultural fun. Key storylines from the NBA and NFL are paired with a deep dive into regional American slang, creating something fresh and memorable. And if you want a new word for “partying,” just say you’ll be “diplin’”—the world might just catch on.

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Transcript

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[Emmett Golden]

Oh, it's, it's. It's huge. It's actually a big deal. It's kind of a holiday. It'll be the first day we go over 80 degrees. It's 76 currently.

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay, but.

[Emmett Golden]

But in the next hour and a half, we will tip past 80 and it will be a holiday. I'm already dragging the grill out of the garage and everything down.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I'm glad to hear. We also have a big game today, which is game seven. Cleveland and Detroit. You had it. The Cavaliers had a chance to take care of business, win the series at home, end up losing a first. Emmett, talk to me about the disappointment of that game in the fallout. And. And then what do you expect to happen today?

[Emmett Golden]

Well, when it comes to Friday's game, guys, nothing bothers me more than the cliche like, they just wanted it more. I always felt like that was so lazy. Right? Well, Friday, the Pistons did just want it more. And I don't know how that could happen when you have a guy in James Harden who has a narrative about him not stepping up and performing well in big games in the playoffs. Donovan Mitchell. There's this narrative you can't get out of the second round. And for some reason, Cade Cunningham and Paul Reed wanted it more than those guys. So that was extremely disappointing. Now, as far as today goes, they have another opportunity to beat the accusations. You know, the Cavaliers are going to need their star players to be star players, and if they do that, I'm confident that they could win in Game 7. I'm just not necessarily confident that they can do that because the one win they got in Detroit, I actually felt that was more about the Pistons letting go of the rope and. And not finishing the game than it really was anything that the Cavaliers did.

[Myron Metcalf]

Emmett, how. How big might this game be for an off season? Full of questions for this Cavs team?

[Emmett Golden]

Gigantic. We, you know, you and I. Myron, about a year ago, had a conversation, would you trade Evan Mobley for Giannis? And I stupidly said, no.

[Myron Metcalf]

I know the phone.

[Matt Jones]

Hang on just a second. You said no at the time.

[Myron Metcalf]

Said he wouldn't pick up the phone.

[Emmett Golden]

I said I wouldn't pick up the phone.

[Matt Jones]

I was tripping. I hope you were drinking.

[Emmett Golden]

I was tripping.

[Myron Metcalf]

I wasn't. I wasn't.

[Emmett Golden]

But I would most certainly do that now. And I do believe that the Cavaliers, Kobe, Allman has always been super aggressive when it comes to making trades. He traded for James Harden. He even traded for Donovan Mitchell. So, you know, if there's a big name out there, he's at least going to try. Donovan Mitchell is due a contract extension offer. I believe the Cavs will make that offer because he's been great since he's got here. He hasn't necessarily been the problem. But with that being said, one thing that not many people are talking about is that J.B. bickerstaff was told by the Cavaliers, you're not good enough to get us out of the second round, to get us where we need to go. And that is why they fired him and brought in Kenny Atkinson. So Kenny Atkinson's job could be up in the air this offseason because he was brought here to get them to at least the Eastern Conference finals, if not the NBA Finals. And he's bumped his head in the second round last year and could bump his head in the second round this season.

[Matt Jones]

I am always fast, and so I have a tendency in life. Like, I tend to try to take up for people when everybody's going against him. And I. What? So I've always kind of wanted to take up for James Harden because I feel like people are always on him. I love the fact that every time I see him, he could have fluctuated 20 pounds in either direction. That's always been entertaining to me. And he's a really good player who plays a style people don't like, and he's had difficulty in the playoffs. I think this game's massive for him to get today. Do you agree with me?

[Emmett Golden]

100%. And I think it's massive in the, you know, from the standpoint of don't

[Matt Jones]

turn the ball over.

[Emmett Golden]

You know, it's not like James Harden doesn't have to drop 50, he doesn't have to drop 35. He. He can't drop the ball. That is where James Harden has really been hurting the Cavaliers this year. You know, 23 points is not a bad night. Seven rebounds, not a bad night for James. And when you have eight turnovers and you lose and get blown out at home, the turnovers have been a thing for James this entire playoff season for the Cavaliers. So he just has to take care of the basketball. If he does that, then the Cavaliers should be in good shape.

[Myron Metcalf]

Obviously, Emmett, you're hoping for a win today. If that doesn't happen, how loud will Cavs fans be about trying to get LeBron James to end his career next year in Cleveland?

[Emmett Golden]

I think it's going to be loud regardless, to be honest with you. But especially if. If they lose, then it's going to fit everybody in Cleveland, or a lot of people, I should say, is going to feel like they need LeBron. Now, if the Cavaliers go on and be. Be successful, if they lose and in a deep run in the Eastern Conference finals in seven games or something, I don't think fans will feel like, oh, my God, we need LeBron. But if you lose in the second round again, they're going to say, we need LeBron, we need Giannis, we need probably a new squad because, you know, it's been a few years where the Cavaliers keep seeming to be the team. Like, oh, they're up next. Okay, they're up next. They'll get it together next year. And this was supposed to be the season, and right now they're just on the. On the edge of having another disappointing one.

[Matt Jones]

Talking to Emmett golden, host of Hammer and Emmett. All right, so let me ask you a question, because from afar, Shador Sanders, I can't ever tell, like, I can't tell a. If people in Cleveland like him, don't like him, want him, be the quarterback, don't. I have no idea what his role is this year. Is he starting? Is he not?

[Myron Metcalf]

Is he.

[Matt Jones]

You're on the ground. You are at Shador Central. What. What's going to happen with him this year, and where are Cleveland people in general? On him.

[Emmett Golden]

Fans like Shador. They like him a lot. I think most fans would prefer that Shador Sanders be your starter than DeSean Watson this year, and that is on the table, by the way. Desean could very well win a quarterback competition, but most fans would rather it be Shador. Shador is popular in Cleveland. The thing is, he is wildly popular in Colorado and in Atlanta in the. The fans that are Shador fans, they are very vocal. And if you critique Shador at all, you typically get a lot of. For lack of a better way to describe it, hate and a lot of disrespect coming your way if you just say, hey, he needs to take better care of the ball. So fans in Cleveland are kind of like, yo, calm down. We like this kid, too. You don't have to defend him at every step. But in Cleveland, if it's a perfect world, Matt, he's the quarterback. They win some games, and the Browns

[Matt Jones]

can just go, and is Dylan Gabriel still there? Does he still live there? What's. I never hear his name.

[Emmett Golden]

Guys, the most disrespected athlete in sports is Dylan Gabriel. The most disrespected guy in sports is Dylan Gabriel. He has not done anything wrong, but people always want to talk about how short he is, and they don't even talk about him even having an opportunity to be part of this quarterback competition. And he literally has never done anything, didn't really play that great when he had an opportunity. But I don't know why he. Not only is he forgotten, he's typically disrespected.

[Myron Metcalf]

Emmett, what's the successful season for the Browns in year one of this new regime? Like, what is that? What is it?

[Emmett Golden]

If they challenge for the division slash playoffs and just challenge for it, you know, if they're in the hunt late in the year and if they. They win eight games and fall short, then I think everybody will say, okay, that's a step in the right direction. If they win three games again, then it's a disaster. Now, you know, maybe that puts them in a better situation to find one of these young quarterbacks, but I know in Cleveland, we're all tired of the like, hey, let's just suck so we could get a quarterback, because that's never worked, all right, since 99, that strategy has failed us. So I think everybody wants to see this team compete, you know, and play clean football, because they've just played some. Some raggedy football over the years. So I think that that would be the other thing to deem it a success.

[Matt Jones]

Emmett, Golden. He's the host of Hammer and Emmett Saturday mornings from 10 to 1. Thank you very much for the time and good luck with your rap career that you and Myron can kind of go through in middle age together.

[Emmett Golden]

See, I didn't know Myon Rat. We might put out a record now.

[Myron Metcalf]

You know ESPN Radio Records, man. We need to have a conversation, man.

[Emmett Golden]

SoundCloud, let's hit it.

[Matt Jones]

I like, I like. You could call yourselves the Golden Cookie. How about that?

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't know about that.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. Come on, man. Golden Cookie. I don't know. I feel like that would be good.

[Myron Metcalf]

Listen, want to be down the street? I'm not.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I. I produce hits, but y' all do what you want. Emmett, thank you very much.

[Emmett Golden]

Appreciate it.

[Matt Jones]

Guys, I'll take my. I'll take my talent somewhere else.

[Myron Metcalf]

You just said Cookie and people don't know the context. I mean, I didn't call myself Cookie. I did call myself Mdiggity. That was a real.

[Matt Jones]

You did call yourself Cookie. I said you.

[Renee]

You said I like cookies.

[Matt Jones]

I know what. That's All I said was pick. Pick your favorite food to make it your favorite candy to make a nickname. And you said cookie. You wanted to be called Cookie.

[Renee]

Myron, you could have said anything in the world.

[Myron Metcalf]

And you said my favorite food. That's all I picked.

[Renee]

That would be your nickname. That was the whole point.

[Matt Jones]

That was the whole premise. So you are Cookie and you can see Golden Cookie performing in Bristol, Connecticut. Golden Cookie is actually really good. I actually think that name would fly.

[Myron Metcalf]

Thank you.

[Matt Jones]

With who?

[Myron Metcalf]

With YouTube. But who's. Who. Who would be. That's not. That would work.

[Matt Jones]

I could perform. Hang on. You could perform at Bar Mitzvah's up and down Westchester County.

[Myron Metcalf]

If they. If they pay me, I do it.

[Matt Jones]

If yiptok is with you guys, I think it'll work. The NFL schedule was released and every team tried to be Shane Gillis and release videos. Did you like them or not? And other takeaways from the NFL schedule, that's next. Here. I met Myron on ESPN Radio.

[Myron Metcalf]

Matt and Myon, the podcast.

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[Matt Jones]

Matt Myron here on the ESPN Radio presented by Progressive Insurance Matt Jones. Myron Metcalf at a fun show so far obviously Game seven coming today, Pistons, Cavs tomorrow night, Game seven, Canadiens and the Buffalo Sabers. And a lot of baseball as well. This is rivalry week by the way. Rivalry weekend in baseball. If you do you like that thing they've kind of created here where all the teams play each other that are in the same city or close by each other. So you got Yankees Mets, Pirates, Phillies, White Sox, Cubs, Reds, Guardians. You enjoy that?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I watched Yankees, Mets yesterday. I mean, yeah, it's. It's. I think that's one of the best things that baseball. Baseball does. We had Brewers, Twins here.

[Matt Jones]

Is that a rivalry, though?

[Myron Metcalf]

I think it is. You know, I think it's. I think it's a rivalry to spend two small market teams next to each

[Matt Jones]

other trying to think, I want to look, are there any team. I mean, I guess there have to be people, though, that have no rival. Right. That ended up on rivalry week.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah. Where you just kind of force it.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, what do you do with the. We'll see if you think these are rivalries. Marlins, Rays. Yes. Florida, Reds. Reds, Guardians? Yes. Orioles, Nationals. Yes. Red Sox, Braves. That's not a rivalry, is it?

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't know. Red Sox and Braves. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

They both played in the same city when they were founded, so I think

[Myron Metcalf]

that's why they do it. What city? I think it was in Boston, I think. Oh, they were the Boston Braves.

[Matt Jones]

Where the boys. I mean, that feels like a long time ago to create a run.

[Myron Metcalf]

I believe they were the Boston Braves. Okay. They were the Boston Braves. All right.

[Matt Jones]

Phillies, Pirates. Yes. Yankees, Nets. Yes. Blue Jays, Tigers.

[Myron Metcalf]

That doesn't feel like a run.

[Matt Jones]

Well, actually, I mean, they're close. Detroit and Toronto. I mean.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, yeah. That's like Milwaukee and Minnesota.

[Matt Jones]

All right. Cubs, White Sox. I don't think Milwaukee, Minnesota are actually a rivalry. Rangers.

[Myron Metcalf]

And tell me when I live. I've lived in both cities.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I mean, you would know. Royals and Cardinals. All right. Diamondbacks, Rockies. Is that a rivalry?

[Myron Metcalf]

Diamondbacks and. Yeah, I mean, the closest teams in that part of the country. Right.

[Matt Jones]

Colorado, though, are not.

[Myron Metcalf]

I mean, but they're the closest in that part of the country outside of California.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Myron Metcalf]

They're the only two.

[Matt Jones]

Giants, A's. That goes back to the Bay Area. Dodgers, Angels. Okay, here's the one that is not a rivalry. The Padres are not rivals with the Mariners.

[Myron Metcalf]

The Padres and the Mariners.

[Matt Jones]

California and top of Washington. That's.

[Myron Metcalf]

Is there some historic tie between those?

[Matt Jones]

No, it's probably. They were the last two left.

[Emmett Golden]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

You know, you gotta. You gotta put somebody with each other.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

So that's probably the last one that's actually Sunday night baseball tonight, oddly the same. The one that's the least rivalry of all of them will be Sunday night baseball.

[Myron Metcalf]

So the Boston Braves played from 1871 to 1952 before they moved to Milwaukee, because, you know, that's where Hank Aaron started. And then they moved to Atlanta.

[Matt Jones]

There you go. All right. So, see, we learn history now, Myron, they released the NFL schedule this week. I. I've never seen anything that is more hyped, that seems to leak out second by second. I feel like I saw the release of games all week, but then when the official time came, everybody put out these videos that had their. They all. Everyone tried to be funny. Probably the first team I remember to do that was the Titans a few years back. Now everyone tries to be funny. Do you like these forced attempts at comedy?

[Myron Metcalf]

I mean, I don't think they're forced. I mean, I understand why you do it. I think. I think it's fun to watch it. As a fan. I think that, like, the Falcons did. This is Sports center, essentially, but, like, this is Atlanta, and I thought. I thought it was cool. So I don't think we're gonna get the greatness we had with that Titans video when they did it three, four or five years ago. But, yeah, I love that they're having a good time with it. I enjoy it.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. See, I feel like once. It's kind of like when everyone is a media member, then no one is a media member. I feel like when everyone tries to do something funny, it almost makes it to where none of them were. I mean, I. I didn't watch all of them. Yeah. Right. So I think the ones that people say stuck out were the Falcons ones. Right.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

The Titans did one where they just walked up to people on the street and said they looked like famous people.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah.

[Myron Metcalf]

Which. That was funny.

[Matt Jones]

I actually kind of thought that was funny. It feels like the Titans are very good at this.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Someone did Halo. Was that the Chargers who did Halo?

[Myron Metcalf]

I think it was the charges, which was incredible. Like, I don't know how you pulled that off, but that was. That was.

[Matt Jones]

I don't play Halo, so. What.

[Emmett Golden]

What.

[Matt Jones]

What made it.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I don't play Halo either. I mean, it just. But it was like they were in the video game. I don't know if you can do that stuff or not, but it seemed pretty unique and next level. And then, you know, they. You know, things weren't off limits in that video.

[Matt Jones]

So what did they do in that? They made fun of Rossini?

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, they just mentioned they had, like, a New York Post notification, and then it said, like, one minute to the photo dump or something. So, I mean, they. They were referencing. And then. I don't know if you saw that the morning of the release. I think Schefter put out the NFL statement Where they said they would not be reviewing the schedule, release schedule, release videos so the NFL teams could do what they wanted. So they knew it was coming and they wanted to be clear that, like, they're not policing what people put.

[Matt Jones]

Do you think it, like, crosses the line to allow jokes about Vrabel and Rossini, or do you think that's okay?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I guess for me, I don't think it's necessary. You know, I don't know.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, nothing's necessary.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, but I don't. I mean, I don't know if anything's off limits because it's such a big story and it's even bigger than sports, and we tend to poke fun at things in those situations. But it didn't feel necessary to me.

[Matt Jones]

Why. But see, I don't understand why it feels like. I mean, now the dam has kind of broken and so people are making more jokes about it. But it has felt like to me for a long time that this story has kind of been skirted around because there's some, like, you know, I'll hear people say, well, they both have families. And that's true. But isn't that true of every story? Like, yeah, I mean, it's. That's true of every story where things happen? Like, yeah, to me, it has felt for a long time, like in this story that people, especially the media, felt like, we can't talk about this, but they wouldn't do that for anything else. It's just been this for whatever reason.

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, I mean, obviously there are people know, the individuals involved. I mean, I think that probably plays a role. At the same time, I just don't know what else to say. You know, at some point you get to a point where it's like, well, what else is there to say at this stage?

[Matt Jones]

Well, I mean, probably the one thing is to say that neither one of these two have. Have really have really said anything, right?

[Myron Metcalf]

No, no. I mean, Mike Vrabel has said. I think all he's going to say about it. And on the other side, what's going

[Matt Jones]

to happen when he goes in front of a press conference, like a full fledged.

[Myron Metcalf]

I think people don't realize that journalists aren't going to ask these questions all season. It's not. What they have to worry about is TMZ getting into that press conference and the New York Post and these other groups. But, like, you're the guys covering the team, the women covering the team. No, they're not going to ask this nonstop.

[Matt Jones]

I actually agree with you about that. I Just find it interesting that, like, if a player does something, it's all out. But if a reporter and a. And a coach, it does feel like everybody try to tiptoe it, except the people not in sports. And then they're like, we'll do whatever.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Which is just. It's just kind of been interesting to, to watch this. The spurs and the Thunder to be a great series. Who will win it next?

[Myron Metcalf]

Matt and Myron. The podcast.

[Matt Jones]

It's Matt Myron here on ESPN Radio. Tune in to baseball action today. Mariners host the Padres. Coverage begins at 6:30 Eastern on ESPN Radio, the ESPN app. While we've been on the air, by the way, Shay Gilgis Alexander has won his second consecutive NBA MVP award. He will be announced later on in the week. Deserved, Myron?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I mean, definitely competition, I think, with Jokic and Wimby, but you can't take away from anything that he's. He's done. You know, I think Yokich and Wimby

[Matt Jones]

had stat lines that most years would win it.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

But this year there were just three guys with crazy stat lines. All three of them.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah. I mean, the great players, to me are always going to get more credit historically because of how crowded the field is, that this is the greatest era of the NBA that we've ever seen.

[Matt Jones]

Whoa. That's a strong statement.

[Myron Metcalf]

The most talented.

[Matt Jones]

I agree with that. Okay. So, Myron, sometimes you say to me on this show that there are phrases or words that I use that you say are interesting because you don't use them or you don't hear people use them. Am I correct about that?

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't hear country people using them. Like, you know, I don't like. It's like a different part of the country that you have.

[Matt Jones]

So, like, you know, I'm from the mountains in Appalachia, and this week on my show, we started talking about words or phrases that we say that people just don't say everywhere else. So are you. And I wanted to educate you for a few of them. Are you ready?

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay. Yeah. This is interesting.

[Matt Jones]

So do you know what a holler is?

[Myron Metcalf]

I just know you bring it up. Like you say holler is not.

[Matt Jones]

Do you know Holler.

[Myron Metcalf]

That's what I know.

[Matt Jones]

It's like, like going into a holler.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah. A neighborhood. Is that what it is? Like, is it a neighborhood?

[Matt Jones]

Well, so it's like if you're in the mountains and there's like a little community that's kind of tucked into the mountains that you have to be very careful when you go in and out, you say you're going into the holler. So there. So like my grandparents were born in Ray Holler.

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, why do you have to be careful going in and out?

[Matt Jones]

Well, cuz if you're not, if you don't live in the holler, people are gonna be skeptical of you because they're like, what are you doing coming into our holler?

[Myron Metcalf]

Is it a cave? Like what do you mean?

[Matt Jones]

It's not a cave. It's just like a street with houses on it. But it's like into the mountains and so it's called like Greasy Creek Holler. A Ray Hawk.

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay, so that's a neighborhood. That's what I'm saying.

[Matt Jones]

You can say it's almost like a little neighborhood.

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay, but tucked into the mouth.

[Matt Jones]

Do you know the phrase wallerin'?

[Myron Metcalf]

Wallerin'?

[Matt Jones]

Like he's out there wallerin' in the mud.

[Myron Metcalf]

It sounds like something that's bad.

[Matt Jones]

Wallering in the mud.

[Myron Metcalf]

He was Wallering at 3am when he should have been home. That's how it sounds to me.

[Matt Jones]

No, it's more like you're just kinda messing around, rolling around in it. Like he's wallering around in the dirt.

[Myron Metcalf]

Is that like mudden? I don't think a little bit.

[Matt Jones]

But it's like kids, Kids will be wallering around. They're gonna be just all up into the mud or in the dirt and then they'll bring it into the house. He's wallering.

[Myron Metcalf]

I interviewed, I never told you. So Malik Monk, I interviewed one time.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Myron Metcalf]

He said, man, we like to go mudden. I said, what'd you say?

[Matt Jones]

Mudden?

[Myron Metcalf]

He said, mud. I said, I said, I have no idea what that, what that is. You would have thought like I'd said I didn't know what water was or something. He was like, he's like, what do you mean? You don't know? No, we go mud. And he said, oh, I'd never heard the phrase.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, he drive in the mud and

[Myron Metcalf]

kind of never heard it.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, let's do some more. Do you know, have you ever heard people say about other people, yuns,

[Myron Metcalf]

Yuns.

[Matt Jones]

Like I might be referring to you and your friends and I'll say yuns. Or sometimes I'll throw in the plural. Yuns is like, Jens is going to the store today.

[Myron Metcalf]

I have a thought. I don't know if I can say it because it's close to another phrase, but so young's almost singular.

[Matt Jones]

And then plural is yunzu. Who are.

[Myron Metcalf]

But what, what's their Profile. Are they good?

[Matt Jones]

Anybody? Any group of people. Any group of people. You can go, hey, Yin's is going to the game Yunz's for.

[Myron Metcalf]

It's universal.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. It's like you all, but we just

[Myron Metcalf]

say, yeah, okay, so even like an old group of older people, you say,

[Renee]

yeah, it's the super Appalachian version of y', all, which is already.

[Matt Jones]

Yes, y'. All. Y' all's too.

[Myron Metcalf]

So y', all, let me. Let me understand this. Y' all heard y', all, and you were like, nah, we could take it. We could take it a step further.

[Matt Jones]

Take it further. All right, what about yonder?

[Myron Metcalf]

Like you say, yeah, black people say yonder. Going up yonder? Yeah, yonder. Going up yonder.

[Matt Jones]

Look over yonder.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, over yonder? Yeah, over there somewhere.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, what about directly?

[Myron Metcalf]

Directly?

[Matt Jones]

No, no, just directly. Like D, R, E, C, K, L, Y. Directly. So you'll say to me, hey, are you gonna move that couch? And I'll say, I'll get to it directly. Does that mean at some point? At some point.

[Myron Metcalf]

At some point you get to it directly. Help me understand what that word is supposed to be.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I think it's a derivative of directly. But directly means now, and directly means, like, down the road sometime.

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay, so when y' all were making up these words, there was nobody in town with a dictionary.

[Matt Jones]

But, like, if you're in the mountains, if somebody tells you they'll do it directly, I know they're going to do it, but, like, they're not going to do it immediately. They're going to do it directly, directly.

[Myron Metcalf]

Time is different down there. I know time can be different. So directly is. So it can be done in 10 minutes, it can be done in three days.

[Matt Jones]

It's when you go get to mowing the grass directly. That's so.

[Myron Metcalf]

So like, people. Hey, man. Hey, Frank. You coming into work is directly.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Myron Metcalf]

He just might not be there till Tuesday.

[Matt Jones]

All right, here's another one. Plum, but not plum, like the fruit Plum. Like.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, that's a looks thing, right?

[Matt Jones]

No, plum. That's plump. Plum would be.

[Myron Metcalf]

No, like you're plum silly or something, right?

[Matt Jones]

Yes, exactly. But actually, I think it means, like, very.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, like.

[Matt Jones]

Like, you plum stupid.

[Myron Metcalf]

You plum. I know some of these. Some of these words.

[Emmett Golden]

I.

[Renee]

Plum pretty.

[Myron Metcalf]

Plum pretty. Yep.

[Matt Jones]

Appalachian people and black people in the south, we are close.

[Myron Metcalf]

We have.

[Matt Jones]

We have some phrases.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I know, plum. But if you say somebody's plum pretty, you got to be 78 or old. Like, you know, that's a.

[Matt Jones]

Well, where I always Hear it is. People will say somebody's plum stupid. Right?

[Myron Metcalf]

That's plum. That's plum you. That's the worst kind of. Just call me stupid. Don't call me plum stupid. I don't. That feels.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. No, if you're plum stupid, then like you are with. Are beyond fixed.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, that's. That's bad. Okay.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Myron Metcalf]

Plum. I know. Plum.

[Matt Jones]

And then you got another one, which is. If I was going to say I'm about to, I would say I'm fixing to.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, that's just everybody knows fixing. That's not abnormal.

[Matt Jones]

That's just everybody. Even I know black folks grew up with fixing.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, we grew. We said. My aunties and uncle said fixing.

[Matt Jones]

All right.

[Myron Metcalf]

Fixing to go.

[Matt Jones]

Let me ask you this. You know the little bugs. Wasp. Right. In the mountains, we call them waspers.

[Myron Metcalf]

Why did y'.

[Matt Jones]

All.

[Myron Metcalf]

Why did y'. All. Did you have to do that? I mean, I feel like wasp is enough.

[Matt Jones]

We decided, like a wasp.

[Myron Metcalf]

Wasp is enough. Right? That's a good one.

[Renee]

But what if wasper was the original and everybody else just shortened it to wasps?

[Matt Jones]

Could be.

[Myron Metcalf]

No, it feels like y' all got stuff last.

[Matt Jones]

Feels like they got bored on Sunday

[Myron Metcalf]

and said, oh, you know what? I'll call it a wasp. You all got stuff.

[Matt Jones]

Later, you gotta. You go in the. You go outside. You got to watch out for the wasp.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yuns got bored.

[Myron Metcalf]

Young's got bored. First of all, it's is you was fixing. Fixing the swat. The waspers.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, another one again, sort of like plum in the very. You would add this to say something's a lot. You'd go, he's crazy as all get out.

[Myron Metcalf]

Crazy. I've heard that one as all get out. But I don't know what all get out mean. Like, where that comes from.

[Matt Jones]

I don't either, really. But I know exactly what it means.

[Myron Metcalf]

Crazy as all get out. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Crazy as all get out.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

But I'm not really sure why. What would that be? You're all get out.

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't know, but I've heard it many times. All get out.

[Matt Jones]

All right.

[Myron Metcalf]

The stuff is just Mississippi. And I bet, you know, some of this stuff is.

[Matt Jones]

But Mississippi's kind of.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Like, if you're in California right now. You think we sound crazy.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

As we're saying this. All right, I'm gonna do another. If you really want to do something, you have a hankering to do it.

[Myron Metcalf]

A hankering?

[Matt Jones]

Yes. So, like, I got a hankering for some chicken.

[Myron Metcalf]

I've heard a hankering. I'VE heard. I've heard that.

[Matt Jones]

So would you ever say that. Would you say. You.

[Emmett Golden]

Like.

[Myron Metcalf]

I would say any of these words because I. How many wants me to say to these words. But I've heard, I've heard. Because a hankering's like, there's another similar word to it.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, yeah, you got a hanker for it. Lastly. And I just thought of this one the other day. It's kind of weird, and I'm not sure why he can't. Like, if you want to say somebody like, couldn't. Couldn't shoot. Like, couldn't shoot a basketball or couldn't shoot a gun, they'd say, he can't shoot a lick. A lick.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I've heard a lick a lot. I've heard he can't. He can't. Yeah, she can't shoot like. I've heard that a lot.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Emmett Golden]

People.

[Myron Metcalf]

When I used to go to Mississippi, people said a lot of these words.

[Matt Jones]

Again, I understand you in Mississippi saying this. I'm saying people listening to us in Brooklyn may not have ever said that you couldn't shoot a lick.

[Myron Metcalf]

But what's a litter?

[Matt Jones]

Yes.

[Myron Metcalf]

Where did the lick come from? Like, what's a. I don't know. How do we attach? How do people attach?

[Matt Jones]

And what's interesting is I don't know what any of these.

[Myron Metcalf]

The origin stories. What I'm. I'm curious of who one day was like, man, you. You can't shoot a lick. And then somebody's like, well, I guess that's a word. Now it feels like if you were at a certain stage in the mountains, you could just come up with stuff

[Matt Jones]

and just say it.

[Myron Metcalf]

And it just became, this is what we say now.

[Matt Jones]

Like, can I invent the word?

[Myron Metcalf]

Like, is that. Do you think people would, you know, if enough people's.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, we invent words all the time. If you think about it, like, everybody acts like the only words that exist.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Are words. But, like, you could. Society invents words all the time. Right. I mean, you know, I'm trying to think, what's a word? Like. Like in the 70s, people just started saying stuff was groovy.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

That's just made up. Like, that wasn't a phrase. And now it just.

[Myron Metcalf]

If I just go, man, you know what? I'm. I'm out here, Diplin. And if it me, it means like, I'm partying, let's say. Right. What you doing? What you doing this weekend, man? I'll be out there, Diplin. And. And I just say, that's just a word for partying and if it catches on.

[Matt Jones]

So you wanted to say that. You want to say that?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, like, hey man, if I'm going this week, hey man, what are you doing this weekend, man? I was going to be out there dipling, but that makes it.

[Matt Jones]

But I think that sounds like you're diplomat. You need to say it with a different feel. You need to be like, we're going diplon.

[Myron Metcalf]

Oh man, can't wait to this weekend we're going diplon. Right?

[Matt Jones]

I think it works. I think diploma works.

[Myron Metcalf]

I just created a word.

[Matt Jones]

You Myron Metcalf Cookie has just created a word and we didn't get to whether the spurs were going to beat the Thunder, but this I think we're

[Myron Metcalf]

doing too much diploma. What's dippling mean? Party means like you're going out party and have a good time going diplo. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Coming up, we'll let you know who's going to win the games and who's going to be diplin after game seven. It's Matt Myron here on ESPN Radio.

[Myron Metcalf]

Matt and Myron the pod.

[Matt Jones]

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[Matt Jones]

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[Myron Metcalf]

It's time to take your pick with Matt and Myron.

[Matt Jones]

All right, there we go. By the way, somebody sent in another one Myron that I want to mention.

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

If somebody is not very smart, they'll say, you don't even have walking around since.

[Myron Metcalf]

Whoa, that feels real bad.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. You don't even have walking around since. That just. That's just somebody trying to tell you you're dumb.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, exactly.

[Matt Jones]

You don't even have the sense to walk around at that point. I feel like you're really.

[Myron Metcalf]

Wow, that's tough, man.

[Matt Jones]

You don't even have walking around since. All right, go ahead, Renee. You do have walking around since. Give us some games.

[Renee]

Well, he doesn't have enough walking around since to be comfortable doing this. So I'm gonna do it. Let's see how this goes.

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay.

[Renee]

See how it goes.

[Matt Jones]

You stay y. You stay over yonder. Okay. Wait a minute, Renee. You don't have confidence to do this.

[Myron Metcalf]

I do have confidence.

[Matt Jones]

She said I want to do it.

[Renee]

I don't like doing these segments. It's fine.

[Myron Metcalf]

I definitely did not do it.

[Renee]

So we're gonna head to the PGA Championship. Currently, the best odds to win according to draftkings. John Rom at +460. Alex Molly, who is the current leader +465. Rory McElroy at +780. Matt, take your pick.

[Matt Jones]

So I before the tournament, I put 100 hard earned US American dollars on Ludwig A. Berg at 22 to 1 to win the title. And right now he is in a tie for third place. So I'm doubling down. Ludwig Abird can win me two grand today. Myron give me a Berg six four and can finish strong to win his first major.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I like John Rahm. I mean, I was listening to Scotty Sheffield talk about the Difficulty of the pin positions in this major. He said he hadn't seen anything like it. I've been out golfing a lot lately, and I'm starting to feel a little bit more what these guys deal with. So I trust the experience of John Rom.

[Matt Jones]

What have you been feeling that they deal with?

[Myron Metcalf]

No, I just been out golfing a lot more. So just, you know, it's all about feel. It's just all about the way you're hitting the ball off the tee.

[Matt Jones]

And it is about.

[Myron Metcalf]

That I agree with. Yeah. Interesting.

[Matt Jones]

Well, then why wouldn't you be correct? If you've been playing more recently, what's next?

[Renee]

All right, we're gonna head to the WNBA Las Vegas Aces are at the Atlanta Dream. The Aces are favored by 3 1/2 points. Myron, take your pick.

[Myron Metcalf]

I mean, Asia Wilson just had 45 points. Yeah. We were watching the greatest women's player of all time. I think that's how she'll end her career. That's how we'll see her. And as good as I think the Atlanta Dream can be, I'm not going against somebody who just dropped 45 in a game. Give me the Aces.

[Matt Jones]

NBC just hired Cheryl Miller to do commentary again. Where's she been? She used to be the one women's player everybody knew, but she's back and she was. She and Sue Bird were talking about Asia Wilson.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

And they kind of. You know, those are two of the greatest of all time.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yep.

[Matt Jones]

And they were kind of saying that nobody's ever played better than Asia Wilson is playing right now. And if that's true, I trust them. I'll take the Aces. What's next?

[Renee]

All right. Seattle Storm at Indiana Fever. The fever favored by 11 1/2 points on DraftKings. Mikey C. Specifically said, myron, take your pick on the paper, so. Myron, take your pick.

[Myron Metcalf]

The Seattle Stormer playing who?

[Renee]

The Indiana Fever.

[Matt Jones]

They have a woman named Caitlin Clark.

[Myron Metcalf]

No, I mean, I'll pick.

[Matt Jones]

You may have heard of her.

[Myron Metcalf]

I'll pick the Fever to win this. There's a lot of weird Caitlin Clark discussion happening already about sort of where she stands in this league. And I just. I just wish we could talk about the league and all the talent in this league. And after they got paid the way that they deserve to get paid, there's so many great stories on the court. I wish we could focus more on that.

[Matt Jones]

Sounds like you brought it up, though.

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, just. People are just. They're not acknowledging all the other great stories across.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I will acknowledge it. Great. Stories. But Indiana wins today. What's next?

[Renee]

All right, so I don't have the lines on these. I just have the game. So let's go. Rapid fire. Phillies at the Pirates. I feel like, because James is not here, I have to say it's Wheeler versus Skeins on the mound.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, Skeins.

[Renee]

So Phillies at Pirates. Matt, take pick.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I mean, I'm not going against Skeens, the best pitcher in baseball. And also must watch. I mean, the Pirates are really boring to watch when he's not playing, but when he is playing, he's worth every penny. Give me the Pirates.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I mean, you know, like, are we watching young Nolan Ryan, Roger Clemens? Like, is that what we're trying to say?

[Matt Jones]

Better than Nolan Ryan. I mean, Noah Ryan pitched a long time, but, yeah, I mean, this is. This is like Roger Clemens in his early Red Sox years. Yeah, I know.

[Myron Metcalf]

The generational element. I mean, so generational talent is what it sounds like. So, yeah, I'm not. I'm not betting against Skins and the Pirates.

[Renee]

All right, Matt, we have your Reds at the Gardos. Guardians.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, My Red stink. Our bullpen might as well throw Cookie out there pitching like they are. They're awful. We did one game one, they won game two. I think we're pitching like some. No, we got Ladolo today. I'll still take the Guardians. What do you got?

[Renee]

All right. Yeah. Oh, sorry. Did you skip me? I skipped you guys. I'll let you take your pick. I'm sorry.

[Myron Metcalf]

What I had to say. Chase the lottery, I think, has been the reason that the Guardians, the Gardos, are winning despite not having this really imposing lineup. So give me the Gardos.

[Renee]

Okay. Am I good now? Can I go?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, you skipped me.

[Renee]

I'm making sure. I'm making sure you're done. I don't want to step on your toes again. All right, we have the Subway Series today. The Yankees, Elmer Rodriguez, and the Mets, Freddie Peralta. Take your time.

[Matt Jones]

I love it. I love a guy named Elmer. You just don't hear a lot of.

[Myron Metcalf]

You don't. Not many Elmer's left.

[Matt Jones]

I know. That's what I'm saying. Like, I like when names come back from the past. And I thought Elmer's. I thought the last Elmer that existed was my great uncle. And now that there's another Elmer out there, I'm going over yonder and picking the Yankees. Because if Elmer's there, then I'm fixing to bet on them.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, if your name is Elmer, I know what your grandfather look like, right? You could like the old school kind of blue collar dude like that. That's where an Elmer name comes from.

[Matt Jones]

And also the Mets plum stink. I'll tell you right there. They don't even have walking around since those beds.

[Myron Metcalf]

They don't mean the Yankees. I got to win this. I've just never seen two teams that have spent similar amounts of money. Although the Mets spent more in just such different places this franchise. And I think Rene is a Mets fan, so I'm actually a Yankee fan. That. That's insulting. Oh, you are? Yeah.

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Okay.

[Matt Jones]

I am a Yankee fan.

[Myron Metcalf]

Sorry about that. Elmer Rodriguez, let's go.

[Matt Jones]

What's next?

[Renee]

All right, we got three left. So quickly. NHL, Stanley cup playoffs. We got a game seven. Matt, this could decide your future. The Canadiens. Oh, it's tomorrow. It says game.

[Matt Jones]

That's okay.

[Renee]

Let's Canadians at the Sabers.

[Matt Jones]

All right, so this will decide where I go, either Montreal or Buffalo for game three. I want to go to Montreal. I want to see those Canadian dollars. I want to meet the security guards who try to frisk me. And because I'm in a Hurricanes jersey. Yeah, give me Montreal.

[Myron Metcalf]

I'll take Montreal because we got to get to the NBA.

[Renee]

All right, NBA game seven Cavs Pistons tonight right here. ESPN radio, take your pick.

[Matt Jones]

Go Myron.

[Myron Metcalf]

Give me the Cavs. I think James Harden shows up big in this game.

[Matt Jones]

I'm going to go ahead and take the Cavs as well. I think Donovan Mitchell and James Harden go win on the road because if they don't, then they're not going to be playing with each with each other again. Myron, thank you very much. We have Andre Snellings and Jonathan Zaslow coming up directly on game day. But we here at Matt. Myron, thank you very much for listening. I will not be here next week, so Myron will hold down the fork. We'll see each other after that. This is Matt.

[Myron Metcalf]

Myron, thanks for listening to Matt and Myron the podcast. You can listen to the show live every Sunday morning at 10am Eastern on ESPN radio, the ESPN app, and on

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[Matt Jones]

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