Hour 3: What's That Band?

Summary

Sunday Mornings with Matt and Myron

Episode: Hour 3: What's That Band?
Hosts: Myron Medcalf, Matt Schick (filling in for Matt Jones)
Aired: March 22, 2026

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Episode Theme:

This episode captures the vibrant spirit of March Madness—deep-diving into the NCAA men’s and women’s tournaments, sharing compelling sports stories, and mixing in their trademark playful banter about music and pop culture gaffes. With Matt Jones at the Kentucky game, Matt Schick joins Myron Medcalf for classic host chemistry, tangling over sports debates, team fandom, and a hilarious detour into band trivia.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. State of the NCAA Men’s Tournament: Upsets vs. Quality

• Opening Debate on Tournament Upsets

  • Myron and Matt reflect on tournament structure and fan desires:
    • "There are a lot of people... who seem to be underwhelmed, maybe because they want more of the double digit upsets. I'm not for that...in the sweet 16, I want the best teams fighting for a chance to advance." (Myron, [01:24])
    • Matt echoes: "We just want Thursday and Friday to be crazy...but we don't want you in our Final Four." (Matt, [02:05])
    • Both agree lesser-known underdog runs are fun, but the later rounds should showcase the best teams and top talent.

• Impact of Freshman Talent and Transfer Portal

  • Myron: “We have one of the best freshman classes we’ve ever had... all these guys who five years ago would have gone to the NBA...now get paid to come back and develop. So I think we’re seeing some of the best teams we’ve seen in college basketball as a result...” ([02:55])

  • Matt on storylines: “We may not have Cinderella's. We have incredible stories.” ([04:33])

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2. Nebraska Basketball’s Historic Run

• Fred Hoiberg & Nebraska’s Moment

  • Myron recounts Hoiberg’s journey—the transition from NBA struggles, early adoption of transfer strategies, to recently clinching Nebraska’s first NCAA tourney win and Sweet 16 spot.
  • “He had to restructure his deal to take less money to keep his job, essentially. And now here he is, first NCAA tournament victory ever, first Sweet 16 appearance ever. I think Fred Hoiberg and Nebraska are one of the best stories in sports right now.” (Myron, [05:13])
  • Matt calls Nebraska’s run the best story in the tournament: “It wasn’t just how they won. It was the fact that Big Red Nation invaded Oklahoma City...” ([05:46])
  • Anecdotes about Husker fans jumping into Oklahoma City’s canal and the emotional journey for long-time Nebraska radio voice, Kent Pavelka.

• End-of-Game Drama:

  • Matt describes Nebraska fans’ deep-rooted pessimism: “[They] felt that shot was probably going to go in. They're always waiting for the shoe to drop...they know how to lose football games ...the next worst thing would be how to lose on a buzzer beater.” ([08:49])

  • Myron sums up: “That is the heartache and just the joy that comes with sports.” ([08:05])

• Comic Relief: Nebraska Fan Travel

  • Matt pokes fun at the notion that all fans live near campus: “...they fly in like you don’t. This is no offense to the state. You’re not flocking to Nebraska to live. You get your degree and you go away...” ([14:35])

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3. NFL Sidebar: Kyler Murray Signs with Vikings

• Kyler Murray’s Impact and Minnesota’s QB Room

  • Myron outlines the surprising signing: “Vikings went out and said, all right, we're going to sign Kyler Murray, who's available...also going to bring back Carson Wentz...It seems like this is a sign that JJ McCarthy might not have a place...” ([15:19])
  • Matt: “You definitely want to keep Justin Jefferson happy...these windows are short. Let's go...Kyler Murray is going to add an added dimension if he stays healthy...” ([16:13])
  • Quick-witted banter about Murray’s video game habits and Minnesota’s low financial risk.

• NFC North Outlook

  • Myron quotes NFL analyst Mike Tannenbaum: “I think it's one of the most transformational transactions we'll see in five years...they'll win the division and...for Kyler Murray to play for 1.3 million at 29 years old...it's like finding loose change in your couch.” ([18:49])

  • Discussion of the division’s intrigue: “Bears, Packers, Vikings, Lions, they all have interesting...quarterback situations and they all have playoff hopes.” (Matt, [19:56])

  • Myron muses about undersized quarterbacks: “We don't see a lot of guys like that succeeding anymore...it's just hard to be an undersized guy who expects to outrun everybody.” ([20:36])

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4. Music Mayhem: “What’s That Band?” & Hilarious Mix-ups

• On-Air Confusion Over Band Names and Songs

  • Myron, James Steele, and Matt dive into confusion over Zedd, Taylor Swift, Ozzy Osbourne, Black Sabbath, and Megadeth:
    • “Megadeth is his crew, right?” (Myron, [24:16])
    • “No, he was in Black Sabbath early in his career. Megadeth is Dave Mustaine.” (James, [24:18])
  • Matt teases Myron: “It's like someone who can't spell, but you're going to spell. Anonymous.” ([24:58])

• Classic Beatles Bungle Replay ([29:22–30:20])

  • James cues up a legendary old clip of Myron attempting to name all four Beatles:
    • “Were there four Beatles or three?” (Myron)
    • “Rhymes with Blonde Jennin.” (Matt)
    • “Blonde Jennin.” (Myron)
  • The group cracks up reliving how Myron called John Lennon “Blonde Jennin” and mused about Ringo McCartney.

  Memorable Quote:
  “Ron Jennings was one of the great Beetle members, and Paul McCartney was the famous one.” (Matt, [29:54])

  • Myron’s self-aware humor: “I know the music more than I know the people who sing it, in many cases, clearly.” ([30:20])

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5. Bracket Talk: Analysis of Matchups and Vulnerable No. 1 Seeds

• Game-by-game Breakdown & Regional Previews

  • Extensive coverage of NCAA matchups: Purdue vs. Miami, St. John's vs. Kansas, Kentucky-Iowa State, and more starting at [25:06].

  • Myron and Matt debate Duke’s vulnerability due to key player injuries:

    • “Duke has the biggest stumbling blocks in front of them. Not only with Caleb Foster out...Kaden Boozer is a really good player, but...Caleb Foster has that experience.” (Matt, [32:53])
    • “The myth about the one and done era is that young teams are great at this stage and they’re not.” (Myron, [34:00])

  • Florida as second most vulnerable one-seed due to tough regional foes (Illinois, Houston) and a surprising lack of home advantage in Houston ([34:38]).

• Quick Pick Segment (“Take Your Pick” at [40:09])

  • Predict winners and discuss large point spreads for women’s and men’s tournament games (LSU-Texas Tech, Texas-Oregon, Iowa State-Kentucky, UVA-Tennessee, Kansas-St. John’s, UConn-UCLA).
  • Honest takes about blowouts in the women’s early rounds versus parity in later men’s rounds:
    • “You don’t complain about the lack of Cinderella on the men’s side because you could be in the opening weekend of the women’s games...” (Matt, [40:46])
    • “...Dawn Staley and Kim Mulkey have no Problem beating teams by 40, 48 points in this stage.” (Myron, [41:06])

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6. Humorous/Banter-Filled Notable Moments

• Nebraska Fan Psychology

  • Matt on sports anxiety: “My wife is a Husker fan...She was on the couch with her head in the pillow not watching the final 30 seconds. And I said, how do you not watch? Like we have this giant TV...The kids that were gathered around the TV let her know what happened.” ([08:49])

• Perfume Blowout

  • Dawn Staley’s unconventional gift to a team she beat by 70:
    • “Do you want a gift from somebody who beat you by 70 points?” (Myron, [39:00])
    • “Smells like a blowout.” (Matt, [39:00])

• COVID Memories

  • Reminiscing about five-hour shows with no sports during COVID, laughing about surviving talk radio without games ([38:10–38:36]).

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• Tournament Upset Debate: [01:24–04:33]
• Nebraska’s Run / Hoiberg Story: [04:33–10:20]
• NFL: Kyler Murray to Vikings: [15:19–21:27]
• Band/Music Mishaps & Beatles Clip: [24:00–31:11]
• Regional Previews and 1-Seed Vulnerability: [25:06–36:09]
• Women’s vs. Men’s Tourney Blowouts: [40:46–41:23]
• Quick Picks Segment: [40:09–45:28]
• Closing Banter & Wrap-up: [38:02–39:49], [45:28–46:05]

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Notable Quotes

• “I love the honesty. I don't know if people saw. I mean, to me, Nebraska Van is the game of the tournament so far.” (Myron, [08:05])
• “You pray, pray, pray, and then it's F bomb, F bomb, F bomb. Whether it's good or bad, right?” (Matt, [07:58])
• “Were there four Beatles or three?” (Myron, [29:22])
• “Ron Jennings was one of the great Beetle members, and Paul McCartney was the famous one.” (Matt, [29:54])
• “You don't complain about the lack of Cinderella on the men's side because you could be in the opening weekend of the women's games...” (Matt, [40:46])

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Tone and Style

• Conversational & Authentic: The hosts toggle between sharp sports analysis and running jokes, creating a genuine and engaging Sunday morning experience.
• Playfully Self-Deprecating: Particularly around music trivia, the humor is rooted in the hosts' willingness to laugh at themselves (“I know the music more than I know the people who sing it, in many cases, clearly.” — Myron, [30:20]).
• Passionate & Insightful: Deep dives into both the emotion of fandom and strategic decisions in both college hoops and the NFL.

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Listen If…

• You want smart, entertaining NCAA tournament coverage with both stats and stories.
• You appreciate hosts who balance sports insight with banter, music confusion, and real-life fan psychology.
• You love a little chaos with your March Madness breakdowns!

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End of episode summary.

Transcript

[Matt Schick]

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[Myron Metcalf]

This is Matt and Myron the podcast Matt Myron on ESPN Radio, the ESPN app, SiriusXM Channel 80. Matt Schick made the cut joining us now that Matt Jones is at the Kentucky game. We're headed to the Kentucky game. Ask your smart speaker to play ESPN Radio, Matt. Mine is presented by Progressive Insurance. Matt Schick. We haven't done this in a while. It's great to have you on the show, man. This is fun. How you doing?

[Matt Schick]

You and I got through Covid together with a three year run on this show. And the best part about it is they were asking me to fill in for this hour simply because my first name is Matt and they didn't have to really do much else to the branding. So I'm thrilled to be here with you. I've missed you dearly. You and I have. We're still on a text chain from the old show you and I used to host here on ESPN Radio.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, we got it. We got a group text with Pat and like we see each other like twice a year at random media events. Like I'll just be walking around like Big 12 media day and I'll see Matt walk around. So man, that, that has certainly been fun. The NCAA tournament, another great day of action today. You know, there are a lot of people, Matt in general who seem to be underwhelmed, maybe because they want more of the double digit upsets. I'm not for that. Like to me you want to see one or two upsets maybe in the opening round. But in the sweet 16, I want the best teams fighting for a chance to advance. How do you see it?

[Matt Schick]

What we have now is what we want. We just want the Thursday and Friday to be crazy while we've taken off of work or we've called in sick and all those that that Thursday and Friday needs to. It's called March Madness for A reason. There's nothing madness about the top seeds winning all of the games, so I get all of that. But we don't want you in our Final Four. We don't want you in our Elite Eight. And if you're not in our Sweet sixteen, that's okay too. These coaching matchups, these program matchups that we have, Myron, this is what we want to have happen. And I, I've called many High point games. If they would have won last night, it would have been a great story. I think we still lack. We could use maybe one double digit seed to make it through to the sweet 16. Outside of that though, I'm good. This is great. This is what it's about. There's a clear cutoff between the best

[Myron Metcalf]

and the rest at High Point. They were close. They played Arkansas about as well as you could play them. And then Darius Acuff Jr. Who's going to be a top 10 pick, said, hold on, we're not going home. So. So I, you know, I don't know. I think when people talk about the Cinderellas, I don't think they're being particularly honest about what they actually want in the final stages. I also think it's been an historic year. We have one of the best freshman classes we've ever had. We have all these guys who five years ago would have gone to the NBA and ended up in the G League or Europe, and now they get paid to come back and develop. So I think we're seeing some of the best teams we've seen in college basketball as a result, Matt. And that's good for the sport overall. When the good teams get even better,

[Matt Schick]

the good teams and the great players. Do you really want Sienna to upset the boozers? Do you really want that to happen? That's fun for a day.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Schick]

You know, it's like, what did Lou Holtz say? You want to be happy for an hour? Eat a steak. You know, I mean, like, that's great. That's all good for now, but think ahead to the next week or two. Who do you want on the sidelines? Who do you want on the court? And you want to see these lottery picks go as far as they can. And thankfully, we've got it.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I mean, if Sienna gets to the Sweet 16, you're gonna fill up about three hotels in D.C. like, St.

[Matt Schick]

Peter's was a great story, right? We all remember these teams that made a little bit of a run. Oh, my goodness. Jack Golke. And that was awesome. He won a game, right? You didn't do much more than that. It's harder and harder for these teams to make it to the second weekend, but the fact that they show up and we even get to talk about them at all is good.

[Myron Metcalf]

He's Matt Schick. I'm here on Matt Meyer, Matt filling in for Matt Jones. But we still have great stories. Like, that's the thing that people forget. Like, we may not have Cinderella's. We have incredible stories. Nebraska I went down there, I don't know, four or five years ago to do a piece on Fred Hoiberg, and he's been, he's been on a journey. He comes back from the NBA where things didn't work out, Chicago Bulls. He also came back to college basketball when the entire landscape had changed. He was sort of the transfer portal king back in 2011 and 12, he was.

[Matt Schick]

And now everybody, he had the list at Iowa State. He had lists on the door of here are the portal here. Before there was a portal. Here are the portal guys, here are the transfers I want to target.

[Myron Metcalf]

And then everybody turned that into a blueprint. So he comes back to the game when everyone's doing what he had perfected. And it wasn't easy to get the players he wanted. He had some good times. He had some tough times. At one point, the AD has to come out, give him a vote of confidence. He had to restructure his deal to take less money to keep his job, essentially. And now here he is, first NCAA tournament victory ever, first Sweet 16 appearance ever. I think Fred Hoiberg and Nebraska are one of the best stories in sports right now, Matt.

[Matt Schick]

I think they're the best story in this tournament right now. And it wasn't just how they won. It was the fact that Big Red Nation invaded Oklahoma City. I didn't know there was a canal in Oklahoma City. I did not know there was one until I saw the videos of Husker fans jumping into said canal last night after the bars were shut down. And then the story of Kent Pavelka, longtime Nebraska radio guy, who has been calling games. And he, you know, you just, you just watch other teams play in the tournament, even in the Big Ten tournament or the Big 12 tournament back in the day. You get eliminated early, you go home under Barry Collier, under Doc Sadler, under Tim Miles, even. Even though he made it to the dance. And you watch and you watch and dream. And now the dreaming has become a reality and they're headed to the sweet 16. And I, I truly believe there are those that were Googling last night what's the distance, the driving distance from Nebraska to Houston because airlines tsa. Not sure you want to go there. You get in the car, head out and maybe they'll just go straight from Oklahoma City. My. Maybe they'll just go straight there.

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, someone who's flying into Houston on Wednesday. I'm concerned certainly about what's going to happen at the airport, but Nebraska fans are going to be there. Like, what a story. Fred Horberg's grandfather was the head coach at Nebraska 70 years ago. And now here he is doing this. Burke, is it? Buck Tunnel. How do you say the guy.

[Matt Schick]

I want you to say it. I. I found this. An audio. Put it in there because I wanted you to say the name. Cue it up here. Who is this player?

[Myron Metcalf]

We got Burke by tonsil.

[Matt Schick]

I think bungee is how. Yeah. Is how you pronounce it. This is what he said last night. The buzzer beater. This thing was halfway down. This is like, go ahead. I was just praying that all the.

[Myron Metcalf]

All the praise that I know.

[Matt Schick]

Slaying our God.

[Myron Metcalf]

Please, like, we work so hard.

[Matt Schick]

Just don't go in. Don't go in.

[Myron Metcalf]

Then.

[Matt Schick]

Then backboards front. I was like, oh, my gosh. I didn't say oh, my God. But I say the effort.

[Myron Metcalf]

Sorry. I love honesty.

[Matt Schick]

That's how it works, right? You pray, pray, pray, and then it's F bomb, F bomb, F bomb. Whether it's good or bad, right?

[Myron Metcalf]

I. I love the honesty. I don't know if people saw. I mean, to me, Nebraska Van is the game of the tournament so far. Like, if you tell me we get another game like that in the Sweet 16 or Final 4. Why Tyler Tanner shot. Like, I've probably watched 18 different angles of the shot. Tyler Tanner. I don't know how. How close you can be, how much closer you can be than what that shot was to going in. It looked like a shot, too. I watched his reaction. Like, he's made those shots before. Like he didn't shoot it. Like a guy who was like, oh, no chance. It was in the basket and then it just flops out. Misery for Vandy Bliss for Nebraska. That is the heartache and just the joy that comes with sports.

[Matt Schick]

Nebraska fans, let me tell you, to get into heads of Nebraska fans. I lived there for 10 years. They felt that shot was probably going to go in. They're always. They're always waiting for the shoe to drop, whatever that phrase means, the second shoe to drop. They're waiting for it. It's the bad things are going to happen. We found they know how to lose football games. They have discovered how many different ways how to lose football games. The next worst thing would be how to lose on a buzzer beater in the NCAA tournament when you've got a great team and a team that has a chance to do it. My wife is a Husker fan. I know you and Matt Jones were talking about this. Do you watch the ends of games? She was on the couch with her head in the pillow not watching the final 30 seconds. And I said, how do you not watch? Like we have this giant tv, we've invested in our entertainment system. Watch this thing. And the kids that were gathered around the TV let her know what happened.

[Myron Metcalf]

I mean, but I would think that in that moment you're experiencing a first, first NCAA tournament game ever won by program. And, and now you're in the second round with a chance to advance against a really good vanity team. Like the emotions of this, I can't imagine what they've been for. Nebraska fans and that shot is the worst nightmare, right? You go from you just won this game. And then it looked like that shot took 18 seconds before it finally hit the rim.

[Matt Schick]

Everyone's just staring at it. Everyone. It is. It's the Carlton Banks shock. Every, it's all slow motion. You're all looking. Except this was very close. This was nearly in.

[Myron Metcalf]

Carlton Banks was. So that was the worst shot in TV TV history.

[Matt Schick]

And they just zoom in on him. He's got this gleeful look of hopeful anticipation.

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, he threw it like you would throw a dodgeball or something. Like, I have no idea. Why would they even put him in that position, man? He's Matt Schick. Amar Metcalf here on Matt Myron coming up, because last week was Selection Sunday, I didn't get a chance to talk about the Vikings signing Kyler Murray. We're going to do that next. Matt and Myron the podcast.

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[Myron Metcalf]

Matt Myron. What is this Matt Myron on ESPN Radio, the ESPN app, SiriusXM Channel 80.

[Matt Schick]

I like when the producer of the show, James Steele, just shrugs. I don't know. He's not in control.

[James Steele]

I'm not in control of the board. So that's

[Matt Schick]

over here.

[Myron Metcalf]

This ain't a doa cat or someone. Is it one of those?

[Matt Schick]

It's Zed. It's Zed. But I was given a break to like decide which song to play because, you know, I'm going through the list and he went, can you play that Taylor Swift?

[James Steele]

I was like, that's not like the beginning.

[Myron Metcalf]

Thought this was Taylor Swift.

[James Steele]

No, it wasn't Taylor Swift.

[Myron Metcalf]

What you said Zed.

[Matt Schick]

Yeah, Zed.

[Myron Metcalf]

Zed. Okay. I don't know.

[Matt Schick]

I thought you were working through O's.

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't know.

[Matt Schick]

It's labeled in the system. It's called on my Mind.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yes.

[Matt Schick]

So O on my mind.

[Myron Metcalf]

Just a little update about the show. Matt Schick is filling in for Matt Jones who's on his way to the Kentucky game. We're playing songs by artists that start with the.

[Matt Schick]

No, no, no. Just songs that we just played that are labeled in O. O. So it's not labeled with the artist, it's just labeled on my mind.

[Myron Metcalf]

It's just labeled on my mind.

[Matt Schick]

So that is an O.

[Myron Metcalf]

Okay, I respect that, Matt. So before the break and I know we got talk about you, you Said you said something that made me think. You said, will Nebraska fans drive to Houston? And it's always interesting to me that we think all of the fans of these teams live in the city where the university is. So we always like track it according to how far of a drive it is from X school when that's not the case. And it just made me laugh thinking like, wait, Nebraska fans will be coming from all over. I think for this game, right?

[Matt Schick]

Nebraska football. They used to have signs that hung around the football stadium that said Californians from. For Nebraska. So. And so for Nebraska. They fly in like you don't. This is no offense to the state. You're not flocking to Nebraska to live. You get your degree and you go away. That's what happens. Or you live there forever. You know, those are the two options. But I remember one time calling a Duke basketball game and they were in Atlanta and I said, fans from Durham making the trip here. And you would think that I said, duke fans just are the smallest fan base ever. They're such a local base. I got so many tweets saying, you idiot, we're all over the place. We're not living Durham. No one lives there.

[Myron Metcalf]

Like, yeah, the big, the big games with Duke there, those. The private jets are coming in and they're leaving right after. Speaking of arriving, Kyler Murray signed with the Minnesota Vikings. It's big news across the NFL. I'm here in Minneapolis. You know, it's interesting to, to me, in a past world, the JJ McCarthy's guys like that would get three years. Matt, like you'd get a third year to say, okay, let's see what you are. He was hurt his first year, his rookie year, didn't play last year, battled injuries again, was kind of hot and cold. And then the Vikings went out and said, all right, we're going to sign Kyler Murray, who's available. They'd have to pay him a ton of money. And they said, we're also going to bring back Carson Wentz. I don't know how many NFL teams have three lockers for quarterbacks. It seems like this is a sign that JJ McCarthy might not have a place in that rotation.

[Matt Schick]

That may be the case. You trade options seem to go up the more depth you have at your position. And that's what happened here with Minnesota. I'm, I'm really interested to see how this works. It felt like a no brainer. You definitely want to keep Justin Jefferson happy. Not that he's going anywhere, but you don't want to Waste that talent and the fact that they were. They punted on McCarthy just so quickly. You understanding at least they understand it's not working yet. And we live in a now society and, and these windows are short. Let's go. We have a generational wide out. We've got a great home field environment. Let's cash in on what we've got here because we need to win. And Kyler Murray is going to add an added dimension if he stays healthy to what they offer it. I, I think it's. It sounds great. It looks great. I think they're. You know, when you think about the, the no gamer tag clause. Sorry the no tag clause that is on there with Kyler Murray, it makes, it makes a lot of sense.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah. I mean they better get him the latest copy of Madden. I mean that, that'll be something. That's gonna be something. They gotta. They have to give him a video game room to make him happy. But, but it's such a low risk idea too. They owe him 1.3 million. Arizona's paying the rest of the 35 or 36 million dollars on his deal. You bring back Carson Winch, you're paying him a couple million. So they're not investing a ton of. But it is interesting to me that they've essentially decided that JJ McCarthy can't take them where they want to go going into year three for him. I also wonder if you're Kyler Murray, what's the plan from here? Because people act like he's 38, but I can see a world map where if he plays great, he sets himself up to get a Giant deal after this season. Whether that's in Minnesota or somewhere else.

[Matt Schick]

It could be. This is, this is one of those. You're in a contract year again. This is a short term deal if it doesn't work. But even if it works, it could be a short term deal. You're right. I love the fact that, you know, you've got Kyler Murray that could set himself up for another deal. Carson Wentz has earned $134 million in his career. I mean is there a better job than what he has been able to pull off? Started out great, got injured against Philly and then he's never been with Philly and he's never been the same yet the paycheck has never been the same either. It's incredible what he's done well and

[Myron Metcalf]

now did enough last year to convince the team to bring him back and to kind of sideline Jason McCarthy. It's interesting to what this does, I think to the entire NFC playoff picture because Chicago and what they've been able to do, we know how close they might be to a Super Bowl. Detroit has lost some pieces, but they've been good over the last couple of years. Green Bay, if everyone's healthy, we know what they can do. You have Kyler Murray. That may shake up the nfc. Here's Mike Tannenbaum on what happens with the Vikings now adding Kyler Murray. I think it's one of the most transformational transactions we'll see in five years. I think he'll start, I think they'll win the division and, and on $300 million cap guys, for Kyler Murray to play for 1.3 million at 29 years old, it's like, you know, what's that expression? It's like finding a loose change in your couch. Like they're getting it for nothing. And if I'm Kyler Murray, that is such a great place to go to be developed. And I think they're going to win the division. Yeah, I mean, Matt, it feels like a win for everybody. You get a guy who still has a lot to prove healthy. Kyler Murray has been a pretty, pretty good quarterback. Unhealthy. Kyler Murray has struggled. And I think that's the only difference between the two.

[Matt Schick]

The NSC north might have already been the case. It's the most intriguing division in all of the NFL.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Schick]

Bears, Packers, Vikings, Lions, they all have interesting, if not great quarterback situations and they all have playoff hopes. And last year they were all separated by two games. I mean, this is, this has the chance to even add a lot more drama and the fact that the Vikings now have a serious opportunity. Think about what they were able to do last year. They were right. They were right there. They were right on the cusp and now have an opportunity to do the same thing.

[Myron Metcalf]

I do wonder, you know, obviously an eight win team with all the challenges that they had.

[Matt Schick]

Right.

[Myron Metcalf]

I do wonder about the undersized quarterback in this NFL. We don't see a lot of guys like that succeeding anymore because all of the defensive stars are so big and strong and fast and it's, it's just hard to be an undersized guy who expects to outrun everybody. I think that's why we've seen a lot of the injuries with Kyler Murray. Do you think an undersized guy, and I think Kyler Murray is listed at 6ft or whatever. Can they still win in this NFL?

[Matt Schick]

Well, they can because of his athletic ability. But there's no one like Kyler Murray. I mean, even Baker Mayfield is slightly undersized, yet he's able to make it work because of his arm strength. I mean, it's just going to be about the weapon. You hear about DeAndre Hopkins wanting to reunite with him. Like what do they have around him? What does that running game look like? You don't want Kyler Murray to be your leading rusher, let's put it that way.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, he may try to be, and I think that's has to be the concern is you don't want him to try to be because we know his tendencies. I think it's such a win win for the Vikings. It's a really smart move. You're not paying a ton of money. You're making Justin Jefferson happy, as you mentioned. And it looks like they can be competitive both in the NFC north and beyond by upgrading at that position.

[Matt Schick]

And you got Kevin o', Hara right? I mean, you've got a guy that

[Myron Metcalf]

can call plays, maybe just saved his job as well. He's Matt Chicag Metcalf Is it good for the sport if all of the number one seeds end up advancing to the final four? That's next. Matt and Myron the Podcast

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Matt Myron on ESPN Radio. The ESPN App Series, XM Channel 80. Matt Schick filling in here for Matt Jones. Who is what?

[James Steele]

This is an O I can get behind.

[Myron Metcalf]

Who is this?

[James Steele]

It's Ozzy Osbourne. Double O's.

[Myron Metcalf]

This is Ozzy Osbourne.

[James Steele]

Yeah.

[Myron Metcalf]

What Megadeth Is that his group?

[James Steele]

No, Ozzy Osbourne.

[Myron Metcalf]

Megadeth is his crew, right?

[James Steele]

No, he. He was in Black Sabbath early in his career. Megadeth is Dave Mustaine. I mean, we can do this, but I don't think you want to.

[Myron Metcalf]

I don't think so. Megadeth is somebody else.

[James Steele]

Yeah.

[Myron Metcalf]

Is anybody on Black Sabbath in Megadeth?

[Matt Schick]

No, it's some. Somewhere in the system. James is Myron trying to name all four Beatles and I think he got through one and a half of them. It's in the system somewhere. I mean, maybe it got purged, but my goodness, I, I like the fact though that Myron, you, you just try, you know, it's like someone who can't spell, but you're going to spell. Anonymous.

[Myron Metcalf]

I'm in the ballpark, though. It's like Megadeth. Black Sabbath are the same.

[Matt Schick]

Yeah, he's playing short. You thought it was left field. All right. The same ballparks.

[Myron Metcalf]

He's magic on Myro Metcalf. I didn't get that one right. Apparently NCAA tournament is happening. That's what everyone's talking about right now. Purdue versus Miami. Purdue a two seed. Miami a seven seed. In St. Louis, 19 to 14. It looks like the fans in St. Louis are still getting up, Matt. Like, I don't know if they're awake yet because that stadium, that arena looks kind of empty, but it's going to fill up later today when Kentucky and all these other great teams play. Kentucky, Iowa State is next, right there in that same building. Joshua Jefferson, the All American, out for Iowa State, St. John's Kansas. I think it's the first matchup between Bill Self and Rick Patino, which is. That's shocking to me, Matt. Like that those two guys haven't met before. So historic moment as well. Tennessee, Virginia after that, and then Iowa. Bennett Sturts, Ben McCollum continue to win. Florida, the defending champs, that is in the later portion of games. Utah State, Arizona, UCLA, UConn with Mick Cronin versus Dan Hurley. There should be extra security at that game, right, Matt?

[Matt Schick]

I wouldn't, I wouldn't be upset. I would understand it if the officials all had earplugs. They just walk in with their bows, you know, headphones on, whatever it is, just to kind of drown out that noise. Or they just say, look, guys, we're going to officiate on the opposite side. I don't know why they have to be on the other side. Can you tell me why officials, is it because they need to be there in case they call a timeout? I can see you across the way. Yeah, we just invite them, screaming at them, football. I get it. You're on both sidelines. You're just going to yell at them. But no official should ever be on that side. Just have them be both on this side.

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, especially not on this game because those two guys, the mics are going to pick up everything. So I'm more, I'm more worried about the audio guy. Like, because these refs have microphones. You don't want to pick up Dan Hurley and Mick Cronin. That should be fascinating. I don't know how great of a game it'll be on the court, but the personalities are like how Mick Cronin

[Matt Schick]

said, get a life, folks. It's not a big deal.

[Myron Metcalf]

Like, you know, listen, man, you suspended your own player in the middle of the game. You ejected one of your own players in a game. It's not us. You accused the reporter of yelling at you like, it's not us. So that's my thing that.

[Matt Schick]

Are you raising your voice at me?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, like when guys like that, their entire careers are screaming at people and being colorful on the sidelines, suddenly, go, you all are making a bigger deal of this than it really is. I mean, come on now, just, just admit who you are. And then the final game, you've got Texas Tech at Alabama. Two teams missing key players for completely different reasons. Texas techno JT Toppin suffered a season ending knee injury last month. Still the first team all American. And then Alabama will be playing without Aiden Holloway, who has had some legal challenges that will keep him.

[Matt Schick]

Is that the out of this way to discuss that? He's had legal challenges.

[Myron Metcalf]

Legal. Legal challenges. I think is the. Maybe the. Maybe a divorce.

[Matt Schick]

Yeah. We call it relationship issues.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah. Just sleeping at two different places, you know, that's, you know, and, you know, here's the thing. You got to do something pretty big for it to register at Alabama. NATO has had a series of challenges over the course of his tenure There, but it's eight.

[Matt Schick]

Holland, if you played in the G League, you can play for me. If you are selling drugs, I mean,

[Myron Metcalf]

Matt, how many teams could bring a guy back for the first time from the NBA? And that's not the biggest story of the year. There aren't many teams, I think, that could pull that off. Alabama has done just that. Aiden Holloway is out, and we'll see how that impacts them against Texas Tech. Back to the Purdue Miami game. Purdue up 2120. Here's the thing. This year has been great.

[James Steele]

Hold on. I gotta. I have, like. I have an update here. Oh, wow. If we want to. If we want to do the Beatles thing, I guess we can just listen to it.

[Matt Schick]

Oh, we have it.

[James Steele]

How old?

[Myron Metcalf]

Have it? Okay.

[Matt Schick]

How old is this clip?

[James Steele]

That's nice. We'll play it. Let's go.

[Matt Schick]

All right, here we go.

[Myron Metcalf]

It's all relative. It's like the Beatles, right? All four of them were great. Were there four Beatles or three? I think of another. There were four Beatles. Right? It's been a hard day tonight. Not lingering. Ringo Paul McCarty's the most famous one.

[Matt Schick]

Rhymes with Blonde Jennin.

[Myron Metcalf]

Blonde Jennin.

[Matt Schick]

What

[Myron Metcalf]

guy, man? Oh, the guy with the glasses.

[Matt Schick]

We don't help each other. That's what makes us such good friends.

[James Steele]

Yep, there it is.

[Matt Schick]

Oh, my God. That is worse than I remembered. Ron Jennings was one of the great Beetle members, and Paul McCartney was the famous one. And even the most egregious. Were there four of them or three. It's incredible. The most famous band in the history of the world.

[Myron Metcalf]

I got. I got a few of them. I know the music more than I know the people who sing it, in many cases, clearly.

[Matt Schick]

Did you ever figure out a Rolling Stones song that was another one we had an issue with? Oh, was it?

[Myron Metcalf]

I said Proud Mary, but I messed it up because I was thinking of.

[James Steele]

That's not right.

[Matt Schick]

You emphatically. You know what? If you're gonna blow the whistle as an official, just do it loudly. Even if you're wrong.

[Myron Metcalf]

I messed it up because there's someone who sang backup on that song who also sang on a Rolling Stone song, and I got it confused, but I'm sure.

[Matt Schick]

I'm sure that was. That's like saying, yeah, I picked Sienna, but I. I misspelled it. Yeah, I meant like.

[Myron Metcalf]

All right, I know. I know the songs and who sings them more than. I know the actual band members, though. You know, I think that's kind of my.

[Matt Schick]

That's kind of like the. I recognize that person on TV, I just don't know their name.

[Myron Metcalf]

100% is me. 100%. Like, I will see someone on TV and say, that's that dude from that one thing. 100%. That's. That's how I. How I identify.

[James Steele]

That's how you. That's how you talk about music. That's like, I know I'm saying that one thing.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I know them. I just don't necessarily know all the particulars.

[Matt Schick]

Yeah. And not knowing specific names, not a big deal for radio because it's a visual medium. So if you get the names wrong, not a huge deal. Purdue leads by three.

[Myron Metcalf]

Oh, yeah.

[Matt Schick]

Purdue a two seed. Myron, Maybe they finish in Indianapolis. Maybe they finish in their home state.

[Myron Metcalf]

That'd be fun. I think they're playing better now. Braden Smith, All American. And I think that's a team that maybe had some up and downs in a very competitive Big Ten. Like, who knew Nebraska would be that good and Illinois would be that good. And now you don't have to deal with those teams, at least initially. And maybe this is the final chapter, the best chapter for them. I don't know if anyone beats the one seeds, though. When I look across the landscape and I see Michigan, they're gigantic. Duke has Cameron Booze, who's the best player, I think, in America. You look at Florida, the defending champs, been the hottest team in America over the last month and a half, two months. And then from there you have what's the fourth one seat? Why am I forgetting Duke, Ringo, Michigan, Florida, Arizona. Do you have Arizona, Ringo? And they just have so much depth that they're going to be hard to beat as well. So I think the four seeds are a cut above the rest.

[Matt Schick]

I think that's true. But I would say Duke has the biggest stumbling blocks in front of them. Not only with Caleb Foster out, where their efficiency numbers with him out are just not as good as they are when he's in there. And you know, Kaden Boozer is a really good player, but at the same time, Caleb Foster has that experience. I think St. John's and Zubi Edgefor, I think they could be. I think Michigan State with Jeremy Fears can beat Duke. There's a chance they don't get to the Elite Eight. There's a very good chance they don't get to the Final Four. And then if they do that, it's like, all right, all bets are off. Their vulnerability was greatly overstated. But that. That to me is the one where I go. You can stumble your way Through Sienna. You can sleepwalk in a first half against TCU and maybe get beat on the boards a little bit. That happens against St. John's Michigan State, assuming UConn, you know, doesn't beat Michigan. I think Michigan State's better than UConn, but we're kind of getting out or jump to conclusions, Matt here, Myron, but I think Duke's the most vulnerable for sure.

[Myron Metcalf]

What are young? I mean, the myth about the one and done era is that young teams are great at this stage and they're not. We've only had a couple of teams that were led by freshmen that reached a championship and won it and deuce in that same boat. I will say I think Cameron Boozer is incredible. He hasn't lost at a championship level since middle school, I think. So this is a guy who's just accustomed to winning and always finds a way to get it done. And just such a giant force who's either going to score or get to the free throw line. I think Duke is still a handful for anybody they see. At the same time, there are some serious threats.

[Matt Schick]

The second most vulnerable one to me, Myron, is Florida. Not necessarily because Florida can't do it, because I think they can. But that winner of the Illinois Houston game, I don't want. I wouldn't want a piece of either of those teams. Illinois is fantastic. Four of their last five losses have come in overtime. Few of those go any other way. They're a two seat. So I think they're ceiling his final four. And they got a great chance of being there. I mean, taking them on at Houston, home of Rice, not ideal. And Nebraska will have some home court advantage as well if they taking on either Florida or Iowa.

[Myron Metcalf]

Well, that's the thing, is that I think Florida might be the only one seed that's outnumbered in every game they play in Houston. And that is bizarre to think about, but I think that's their reality. And if you're tired, golden, you can't be looking forward to at least that portion of it.

[Matt Schick]

He's Houston get to go to a Houston regional as well.

[Myron Metcalf]

So the rule is as long as you're not hosting the regional, you can play there. So Rice University is actually hosting the regional. And I'm guessing, Matt, there may have been a. Somebody may have shown up to Rice with a briefcase. It said, you know, congratulations, Florida. That's why.

[Matt Schick]

That's why, that's why when we argue about who's going to be the ones, I say, who cares whether you're a one or a two whatever, because case in point, Houston's going to have home court advantage if they play Florida.

[Myron Metcalf]

Rice might be the first school to give every student an nil deal. You know, I'm sure they've worked out something, but now Houston can play at Houston, and that is going to be ridiculous. Nebraska coming down, Illinois fans and Florida people trying to figure out a way to get there as well. I'm going to Houston. I'm biased, but I think that's going to be the best regional of them all. Matt Schickmeyer, Metcalf Coming up, take your pick. Matt and Myron the Pod.

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[Myron Metcalf]

MYRON On ESPN radio, the ESPN apps here. Sexism channel 80. MYRON he is Matt Schick filling in like old times.

[Matt Schick]

I miss you, Myron. Yeah, every Sunday we would just stare at each other in the zoom and laugh and laugh and wish there were sports going on. It was during COVID and we did

[Myron Metcalf]

five hour shows like I mean we did a couple of five hour show like if you could do five hour shows with no sports on, you could do anything.

[Matt Schick]

Espn. Oh man, it was more entertainment than sports during that time.

[Myron Metcalf]

You could do anything and we did it. Always glad to be back together. Before we get to take your pick, Dawn Staley in South Carolina beat Southern, I believe, 103 to 34. She gave out perfume samples to Southern before the game as a, as a gift, I guess. Do you want a gift from somebody who beat you by 70 points?

[Matt Schick]

Smells like a blowout. I was at the Southern Samford game. I called that on ESPN too. And I was grateful I had that and not the South Carolina winner of that game. Game, because you know that that's what's going to happen. She took, she was there visiting the teams during their shoot arounds or before their shooter rounds, giving them a message, talking them and they were all taking selfies and stuff. That ain't happening with guys, teams, man. Like I don't care if it's Coach K or whatever. They are not taking selfies with, with the opposing coach that's waiting to slaughter you the next day.

[Myron Metcalf]

I was wondering if Mick Cronin walks into UConn's locker room before the game, like who, who throws the first punch, right? Cause I, I mean just. It just be five guys holding Dan Hurley back, you know, in that.

[Matt Schick]

Sort of like Todd golden walking in, even though he's not to that level, walking into the Lehigh Prairie View locker rooms, just saying, hey, I'd like to give you guys a message. I'll see you. See you in Tampa.

[Myron Metcalf]

You beat me by 70. No, I don't, I don't. I'll take the perfume, but I don't, I don't want the message. James, what do we have this weekend? Take your pick.

[Matt Schick]

Take your pick.

[Myron Metcalf]

You take your pick. It's time to take your pick with Matt and Myron.

[James Steele]

Yeah. Speaking of blowouts, not really in blowout right now, but North Carolina, Maryland. North Carolina's up by 10 on Maryland right now. The women in the women's bracket, but a couple of games that the spread on them is crazy. In the women's bracket, you have number two, LSU and number seven, Texas Tech. LSU are 25 and a half point favorites. Who you got here, Myron?

[Myron Metcalf]

25.

[James Steele]

What do you think?

[Matt Schick]

Let me tell you something. You don't complain about the lack of Cinderella on the men's side because you could be in the opening weekend of the women's games where there are some really good games, right?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah.

[Matt Schick]

But the gap at the top in the second game, like in the round of 32 is gargantuan.

[Myron Metcalf]

And people get upset. They've been talking about some of these 20 point wins. 15, 20. If you think that's happened on the men's side. Dawn Staley and Kim Mulkey have no Problem beating teams by 4,48 points in this stage. And I think that happens again. I mean 25 sounds like and it's

[Matt Schick]

on your home court.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, that's the difference though too is you're hosting games. So that's a little bit of a difference. A much different situation. I'll pick LSU to pull it off. I think they cover it.

[Matt Schick]

I think lsu, I think it's competitive and then they tip the ball off. I think LSU wins.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, I agree.

[James Steele]

Another big spread in the women's bracket. Number one Texas. Number eight, Oregon. Texas is a 26 and a half point favorite.

[Matt Schick]

This is round of 32.

[Myron Metcalf]

Wow.

[Matt Schick]

Round of 32.

[Myron Metcalf]

Second round in that kind of a spread. Sabrina UNESCO available?

[Matt Schick]

No, I don't believe that. I think her eligibility is up. Although why not sue the ncaa, get her back in time for the game. Madison book are very good. Since Vic Schaefer called out his team said we're soft. I think all they've done is win hardware. So I think Texas squeaks it out as well.

[Myron Metcalf]

I have no problem with what Vic Schaefer did, by the way. Like we got to stop responding as if it's some different thing. What happens on the men's side versus the women's side. Those are very, very high level athletes.

[Matt Schick]

That's right.

[Myron Metcalf]

They seem to. They wanted that when you talk to the players and it turned their season around for Vic Schaefer to be hard on them. So I think that was the right move. I think Texas covers here.

[James Steele]

All right, let's move to the men's side. Midwest region to Iowa State. Five and a half point favorites on seven, Kentucky. Who you got? Mine.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah. I don't understand that five and a half point spread with Joshua Jefferson being out. I've seen Iowa State live multiple times. That is a completely different team without Joshua Jefferson. It's not just that he's a big body rebounding. He's one of the best passers as a big in the entire country. One of the most versatile players. They lose so much without him. I think Kentucky wins this game with their best player sideline.

[Matt Schick]

Hard to imagine them losing after the bucket get after the the mid court heave to send it to overtime. They'll have the best player on the floor as well. Give me Kentucky here in a tight one.

[James Steele]

Sticking with the Midwest region. Three seed Virginia against 16, Tennessee. Tennessee actually a one and a half point favorite here. Myron, who you got?

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, it's interesting. You know both of those teams are really tough on the offensive glass. Tennessee the Top offensive rebounding team in the country. Nate Amen. If he's good to go. It's just a difficult matchup at 6 foot 10, but I think Virginia is just more efficient. This isn't a Tony Bennett Virginia team. They shoot a ton of threes. They're really smart and disciplined. I think Virginia wins this.

[Matt Schick]

I was upset with you. I thought you'd take Tennessee because I was going to take Virginia as well. This is good radio. We're all agreeing a 23 year old freshman tester Ritter, that's what you really want in life. Coach Odom has done a great job in his first season with uva. He has flipped this script on its head. They play a different style of basketball than Tony Bennett did, which is great. Give me UVA to not. It's. It's an upset by Vegas, not by the seat.

[James Steele]

Few more here. Let's get through them quick. East region 4 seed Kansas, 5 seed St. John's St. John's is a 3 1/2 point favorite.

[Myron Metcalf]

Meyer, you got a lot of beef there. Zubi, edge of four, played to Kansas, ended up transferring. Didn't feel like he was wanted. I think Darren Peterson is the difference maker again. Like they had some weird stretches with him. They'll continue to have him, but he's the difference maker. Give me Kansas.

[Matt Schick]

I'll take St. John's fewer distractions, fewer unknowns. I think you know what you're going to get with St. John's know the big east isn't what it was. Maybe they're not as battle tested when it comes to competing against Kansas. But I think St. John's gets this done and I think we're going to have a St. John's Duke matchup in the Sweet 16.

[James Steele]

Stay with the East Region 2 seed Yukon 17 UCLA Yukon, four and a half point favorites on DraftKings. When you got Laird.

[Myron Metcalf]

Yeah, Tyler Bildo probably out and if he isn't, he's not 100% healthy. UConn wins this, but they haven't looked great to me in a long time.

[Matt Schick]

If Tyler Billidou. Billido was going to play, I would take ucla. He's not healthy. I have to go Yukon.

[Myron Metcalf]

That's the right call. I think that's our time. Matt Schick, Myron Metcalf, the reunion. Fun as always, man. To be back in the studio with you. Coming up next, game day with ZLO and Gabe. Thanks for listening to Matt and Myron the podcast. You can listen to the show live every Sunday morning at 10:00am Eastern on ESPN Radio, the ESPN app, and on SiriusX XM Channel 80. Matt and Myron the podcast Monster Energy.

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