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Matt Myron
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Andrew Salchunas
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Matt Myron
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Andrew Salchunas
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Matt Myron
So that means a half day. Yeah.
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Andrew Salchunas
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Matt Myron
Cmintmobile.com this is Matt and Myron. The podcast. That's an old school reference. Like Andrew Saltunis who is filling in for Myron. Do you even know, do you even know what I was talking about when I was talking about Howard being going?
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Andrew Salchunas
No, I missed that one.
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Matt Myron
Yeah, I know. Sometimes it really hits me like, that was 21 years ago. You were what, 10?
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Andrew Salchunas
I was 10 years old. Yeah.
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Matt Myron
Early. That's tough.
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Andrew Salchunas
When I said I realized I'm not as young in my 30s as my 20s, you're like, yeah, you're real old.
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Matt Myron
Yeah, that's tough. Like literally, me talking about Howard Dean would be like, when I was a kid, if somebody had referenced Richard Nixon, I would have been like, that's so long ago. I hate to think that I was.
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Andrew Salchunas
Watching SpongeBob at the time. That's what I was doing at 10 years old.
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Matt Myron
That's okay. But you know what? You're getting compliments on the text machine. 772-774-5254. One person writes, Matt, the new guy on the show is doing a good job. I live close to Philly. Where can I listen to him? So there you go. You might have gotten a new listener. Where can they listen to you?
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Andrew Salchunas
Yeah, 97. 5 the Fanatic. You could stream it or of course, just listen on your radio dial. 97.5. We're around.
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Matt Myron
See, I'm, I'm used to working with Myron and when he does his professional voice, it's funny. Give me, give me Andrew@97.5 the Fanatic. How you do an official intro. Usually I'm completely say we're coming into a morning show.
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Andrew Salchunas
Usually I'm complaining about something because that's, that's kind of how it goes every single day.
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Matt Myron
Yeah.
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Andrew Salchunas
You're from Phillies.
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Matt Myron
Yeah. Let's just say the commercial, the music is ended. Go.
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Andrew Salchunas
It's 1204 here on ESPN Radio, the ESPN app. I'm Andrew Sal Trudas filling in for Myron. I guess I like it.
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Matt Myron
Okay. It's like you're. It's 1204 in the a.m. this is Perspectives.
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Andrew Salchunas
Yeah, we usually do the clock.
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Matt Myron
Get that reference.
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Andrew Salchunas
Yeah, do the clock a little bit. Or I'll just go right into it if there's something that's pissing me off. And again.
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Matt Myron
Oh, don't.
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Andrew Salchunas
That's.
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Matt Myron
That's.
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Andrew Salchunas
That's common.
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Matt Myron
Can't use that word.
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Andrew Salchunas
Oh, ticking me off around. We're not allowed to say that on the national network.
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Matt Myron
I don't know, maybe you are.
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Andrew Salchunas
Little questionable. I would stay away from.
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Joe Kress
I think it's fine.
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Andrew Salchunas
As the person in charge of the button, I think it's fine. Yeah, it's. It's FCC regulated. There's. Look, trust me, I know what words I can say and what words I can.
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Matt Myron
Today with their potty mouths. It is now time not to sit and listen to Andrew curse. It is time for King of the Mountain. Ladies and gentlemen, your winner and new King of the Mountain. All right, Bill. 30 seconds. Go.
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Joe Kress
Time now for the new and improved version of the Kevin o' Connell Busted Quarterback Shop on the Matt Myron show, starring Matt Jones and Myron Metcalf.
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Matt Myron
If you got a busted quarterback, we.
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Joe Kress
Can fix them fast. Then you'll have a QB that's guaranteed to last. Hi, I'm Kevin o'. Connell. If you've got a couple Kirk Cousins or a Daniel Jones who might need a little tune up, or a Sam Darnold who needs a complete overhaul, bring them to the Kevin o' Connell Busted Quarterback Shop. We'll fix them upright, guaranteed.
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Matt Myron
If you got a busted quarterback, we.
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Joe Kress
Can fix them fast. Then you'll have a QB that's guaranteed to last. The Kevin o' Connell Buster Quarterback Drop is not affiliated with the Minnesota Vikings football organization.
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Matt Myron
See, I don't even know if I like that call anymore, but it's still. Still makes me bop my head.
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Andrew Salchunas
Not aging.
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Matt Myron
Still does.
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Andrew Salchunas
Not aging.
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Matt Myron
It's not aging well and it's not doing well. But nevertheless, it still makes me bop my head. So Bill in Nebraska, he's had it for five weeks.
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Andrew Salchunas
Five weeks. That's impressive.
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Matt Myron
Maybe one of these folks will beat it this week on the Dr. Pepper call in line. Let's get started. 30 seconds. You don't have to ask me how I am. Just go. Zach in Texas. Go.
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Joe Kress
I think the Dallas Cowboys should blow it up. Jerry Jones time is over. Steven Jones needs to take over. Zach needs to get the heck out of town. Get CD Lamb out of there. Let's blow it up. And start over.
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Matt Myron
All right. Thank you, Zach. Here's what I understand about Cowboys fans. You want Jerry Jones to be gone. Why? His kid put someone else in charge. Like. Like. I've never seen the kid of a rich guy be more successful than the rich guy. So, like, why would you think Stephen Jones would be better? Wouldn't you like someone else to run it?
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Andrew Salchunas
Yeah, you would probably want somebody else. But I think everybody says the same thing, that Stephen Jones isn't the problem. That's what everybody says from the outside. He Dr. He drafts well. And he does this way. Does that well. Well, they don't do contracts well, I can tell you that.
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Matt Myron
Me, the kid of a rich guy that was better than the kid than the dad.
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Andrew Salchunas
That's. You know what? That's a great question.
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Matt Myron
It doesn't happen. They're usually much more screwed up. I'm not saying Stephen is. I'm just saying, like, why don't you get somebody. He doesn't have to be a Jones. It could be somebody else. Jeremy in Michigan. Go.
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Andrew Salchunas
Yes.
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Joe Kress
So the NFL needs to implement penalty challenge flags because things are getting missed or things are getting called, which aren't. Here's how it works. You get two. One per half, you throw the flag to get it to work, you not only have to call what the penalty is if it was missed, but what player committed the penalty. And if the penalty was called but you think it wasn't there, once again, call what player it is. And this would help clear up a lot of things. It wouldn't take as long because you know specifically where to look. Akin to regular challenges, we can get things cleared up. Just needs to be implemented.
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Matt Myron
Okay. I think that's a solution in search of a problem. Are people confused about who to look for during these things? Andrew?
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Andrew Salchunas
No, I think what he's saying is just. Just the missed calls and because you could throw a flag on every play. Right, Right. Everybody knows there's holding on every single play in the NFL, so I get what he's saying. I don't hate the idea. The only problem is it would have to be specific penalties. It can't be holding. Face mask, maybe horse collar, maybe the hip drop tackle that was banned, but nobody's ever been flagged for it. They just get fined for it because they already tried this with the pass interference a few years ago.
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Matt Myron
It did work.
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Andrew Salchunas
Nobody knew what was a pass interference.
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Matt Myron
They never flipped them ever. Ever. So Scooter in Louisiana, go.
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Joe Kress
Hey, fellas. I'm gonna get right to it. I think Christian McCaffrey needs to be in the conversation for MVP. He has. He's on pace for over a thousand yards rushing. He's on pace for over a thousand yards receiving. Also on pace to have over 100 catches. He has six rushing touchdowns and five receiving touchdowns. I think if he goes 1,000, 1,110 and 10, how can he not be the MVP and.
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Matt Myron
All right, so here's the thing, Scooter. I think there's a good call in you. You got that Louisiana accent. You got strong opinions. There's a good call in you. You don't need to give me, like, the numbers. You don't need to be like, he has 10 touchdowns and 17. Like, you just need to be Scooter because a dude named Scooter from Louisiana, you. It's in you. I just needed to come out.
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Andrew Salchunas
You just wanted to be coach. Oh, like that.
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Matt Myron
That's.
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Andrew Salchunas
That's.
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Matt Myron
I do. I need you to go. I need. I don't need. It was just too. Too much information.
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Andrew Salchunas
I don't hate his point. No, I don't hate his point because let's. Let's face it.
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Matt Myron
No gonna do that. I want Jonathan Taylor. He's been. If you're gonna bring a. I think Taylor beats McCaffrey this one time. Nick in Alabama. Hope it's Saban. Go.
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Joe Kress
Yeah. My point is, I think Ole Miss should be happy to get rid of Lane Kiffin. He's obviously leaving. He doesn't know how to commit to a team. He's got a.656 winning percentage. If I was them, I would go right over to the other sideline right after Egg Bow and hire Jeff Levy. All right, tell me I'm wrong.
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Matt Myron
See, I was going to say that was really good.
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Andrew Salchunas
That was a mic drop, too. He did give you numbers, though. He dropped. He dropped the win.
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Matt Myron
The Mississippi state coach, who's 1, hasn't made a bowl in his first two years. Is that really what you want?
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Andrew Salchunas
By the way, the last winning season pre Lane Kiffin era for Ole miss was in 2015.
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Matt Myron
Yeah.
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Andrew Salchunas
That doesn't sound fun.
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Matt Myron
Coached out Ole Miss, like seven times during that period of time. I was trying to pinpoint his accent because it was like. That was a quiet. Like, as somebody who's an aficionado of Southern accents, there was a lot going on in his. I liked him. I wish you hadn't suggested the Mississippi State coach at the end. Sean in Atlanta, go on the Dr. Pepper calling line.
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Joe Kress
Hey, let's go. Let's talk about the real MVP Guys. So everyone's going to say Stafford, but look at that. He's a veteran QB with a veteran coaching staff and ferocious defense led by Jared Verse. So he's not really the most important person on that team. Sean McVeigh is so confident. He has Jimmy Garoppolo and Stetson Bennett the fourth as his backup. And let's say Jonathan Taylor. But you have Michael Pittman Jr. You have Tyler Warren, you have Alex Pierce as well on that team. So that he's not the essential component. The most important player for his team, the one that they wouldn't win without, is Caleb Williams, the Chicago Bears.
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Matt Myron
Okay. So I teach sports law at a college in Kentucky. I always try to teach my students about thesis. Okay. You want to have a thesis in most in. In your paper and a thesis in your paragraph. And you often, unless you're like Thoreau, you want your thesis in the first sentence. So I know what you're doing. Some people can do it in the last sentence, but you better be great to do it. Andrew. I needed him to tell me he wanted Caleb Williams at the start and then dismissed the other candidates. But there wasn't enough about why Caleb wins.
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Andrew Salchunas
Right? Exactly. Like I. I get what he's saying about Matthew Stafford. If the MVP award was what it's actually about, Most valuable player, then Joe Burrow should have won it last year. But people don't want to hear that. But yeah, we. I don't know why he thinks it's Caleb Williams other than the fact that they have seven wins.
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Matt Myron
You got to punch him with the thesis and then get the supporting body blow. And you were all body blow and no knockout. Josh in Oklahoma. Go, Josh.
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Joe Kress
So everybody knows we're in Week 12 and that the packers are the most overrated team in the NFL. Without Jacobs running the ball, we're two games below.500. Our offense is more effective and efficient when Willis is quarterback for us.
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Matt Myron
Yeah. No Mad Mac in Indiana. Go.
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Joe Kress
Let's. Let's pray to the football gods that they removed the Sanders family from football. Dion, Schrader and Shiloh. Dump them and get them new names like Mo, Larry and Curly. We've had enough, boys.
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Matt Myron
How?
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Andrew Salchunas
Who's had enough? You may have had enough.
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Matt Myron
Who's we?
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Andrew Salchunas
Because I haven't. I'm actually looking.
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Matt Myron
Are you?
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Andrew Salchunas
I'm looking forward to Browns Raiders today for one reason.
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Matt Myron
That's true.
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Andrew Salchunas
Nobody cares about Browns Raiders in November. I care for one reason. It's Shador.
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Matt Myron
Yeah. And Dion made Colorado fun for a couple years. I don't think it's going to go well from now on?
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Andrew Salchunas
No, I don't think so either.
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Matt Myron
But for a couple years it was fun when they beat tcu. All right. Tremaine and Arkansas go all right.
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Joe Kress
As a Notre Dame fan here I'm speaking to all the Miami fans that keep crying about what position Notre Dame is in the college football rankings. You're going about it the wrong way. You should be harping on how great you got the greatest win in the country and you. And you can't even carry it right. You keep talking about how so how you so much better and how Notre Dame had to play anybody. If you would concentrate on saying that how good Notre Dame is and. And how you the only team that really handled them right, you would be in a better position instead of trying to downgrade Notre Dame. So all I'm hoping for is a rematch. Any college football playoff. Go ahead and smash.
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Matt Myron
Yeah. Substance B minus. Accent A plus. I can listen that guy talk all day. That's my kind of voice right there. That's a. That's an Alabama. Like that's. I like it. All right. He was from Arkansas, but it still sounded a little bit of that.
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Commercial Announcer
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Matt Myron
I like it. All right. So who's our winner for today? Before we go, you got. Zach's in Texas says blow up the Cowboys. Jeremy in Michigan with his penalty challenge. Nick at Alabama says Lane Kiffin. Sean in Atlanta wants Caleb Williams to be the mvp. Mad Max says get rid of all the Sanders. And Tremaine in Arkansas says Notre Dame is better than Miami. Who would you pick as a winner? Andrew, you're a guest. I'll let you pick today's win.
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Andrew Salchunas
I'm down to two because I didn't hate what Jeremy was saying. The premise of the penalty flags and. And he had reasoning and he also had it like this is what they would do. I also don't mind Tremaine taking shots at people taking shot shots at the Hurricanes fans. So not only does he have his opinion about Notre Dam Dame, you talked about the thesis and the punching bag. He also took shots at Miami. So I kind of appreciate Tremaine's call.
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Matt Myron
I see you're going to go with Tremaine.
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Andrew Salchunas
I'll go with Tremaine.
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Matt Myron
Upset winner today. I like. Nice. Andrew picks Tremaine. I was probably going to go with Nick and Alabama on Lane Kiffin, but. But Andrew is our guest. We'll pick Tremaine. So now that brings Tremaine up against our current champion, which is Bill in Nebraska. His take hasn't aged well, but the song still makes me bop my head. Andrew My vote is to keep Bill in Nebraska and I'm with disagree, six.
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Andrew Salchunas
Time winner Bill in Nebraska. It's amazing.
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Matt Myron
Six time champion. He's he's already passed Booker T. And he's no longer a five time He's a six time champion Bill in Nebraska. Somebody will have to try to take him out next week. Matt Myron is brought to you by ESPN BET Sportsbook. Download the app today, 21/ plus and if you have a gambling problem, call 1-800- gambler Shador gets the start. Is it going to be money time? We'll let you know next here on Matt and Myron on ESPN Radio. Matt and Myron the Podcast.
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Matt Myron
I don't think you all had seen it, the video of Pavia's mom yesterday, like, during the game. I mean, Andrew, she is celebrating. Good for her. You go, girl. Like, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not hating. I just. Like, when have we ever seen a mom do that during a game? Like, have you ever.
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Andrew Salchunas
No, no.
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Matt Myron
They were winning 45. I get it. I'm just saying, though, I haven't seen that in a game in a while.
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Andrew Salchunas
She was hitting the Heisman pose. Yes.
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Matt Myron
Like we were talking about. I've not seen a parent featured in a game more than when Christian Laetner's mom. Again, this is before Andrew's time, but when Christian Laitner played, his mom had been in a car wreck, and so she had a neck brace on and they showed her in the stands, like, the whole game. But there was. She wasn't doing that.
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Andrew Salchunas
Hey, maybe it's strategic. There's more people talking about Diego Pavia today. That could be part of it.
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Matt Myron
Without question.
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Andrew Salchunas
Maybe strategic.
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Matt Myron
No, it clearly is. Mom's getting an endorsement if she wants it.
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Andrew Salchunas
Yes.
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Matt Myron
I just. The. I'm just trying to think of if my mother. My mother had done that.
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Andrew Salchunas
Like, that's when he just put the phone down.
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Matt Myron
Hard for me. Like, if it's hard for me to even fathom such a thing. Okay. Shador gets his first NFL start today. Are you excited about that?
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Andrew Salchunas
Yes, it's. It's something that I've been very curious about, even going back to preseason football. I know what Joe Flacco was able to do a couple of games. And then also in Cincinnati. It kind of beat the test of time. Right, with. With him being 40 plus years old and he's had some pretty. Pretty good games before he got banged up. But the future wasn't Joe Flacco in Cleveland. The future was either whoever they draft next year or one of Dylan Gabriel and Shador Sanders. And to me, I am somebody that believes that you just throw somebody into the fire and see what they can do. And I didn't have to be Shador Sanders. It could have been Dylan Gabriel, which was the first guy they ended up going to. But you're going to learn more about these players. You're going to learn more about the future of your team by letting these guys play. You saw Dylan Gabriel. It wasn't great. You'll now see Shador Sanders. Am I expecting it to be great? No. But you can put some stuff on tape to see. All right. We're going to have A very high draft pick next year because we don't win many football games. Are we going to use it on our third quarterback in two years because we drafted two in one draft after signing Joe Flacco and trading for Kenny Pickett? Or are we going to try to build around one of these two guys and use this draft pick somewhere else and you get sort of a glimpse of what their plans might be today? At least a start.
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Matt Myron
I agree. I'm glad he's playing. He should play. There is a part of me that wonders if I'm about to watch the equivalent of like the Mike Tyson, Jake Paul fight on Netflix. Like, am I, am I, am I wanting to watch it because it's going to be like, like he's got a future? Or do I want to watch it because there's like, train wreck possibilities and I don't know that you made a good point. He's playing the Raiders. So, like, if you're going to have a game to play, this may be it. I don't like the discourse about, around Shador Sanders because there are people who want him to fail and I don't know why that would be like our.
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Andrew Salchunas
Caller from King of the Hill. Like, he, he just wants him out, do us all a favor. And I'm.
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Matt Myron
There's people who really want him to fail. I certainly not like that. There are also people, though, who try to act like when he eats a sandwich, he's, you know, the best sandwich eater of all time. And I don't like that either. I mean, there's, there's a couple of reporters that are like that online. So I don't. I think what bothers me about Sanders is not Shador, it's the discourse around him. And today there's going to be a lot at the end of the day either way.
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Andrew Salchunas
Yeah. Especially if he looks really good against the Raiders. There's going to be a lot of people that are saying, see, I told you he should have been the starter all along. And if he looks really bad, it's going to be, wow, this guy couldn't even beat the Raiders. That's why he fell to the fifth round. There wasn't.
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Matt Myron
Dylan Gabriel will probably be ready next week.
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Andrew Salchunas
Right.
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Matt Myron
And what do you do then? Like, let's say he plays well. What do you do then?
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Andrew Salchunas
What, you just split? You get one half, you get the other.
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Matt Myron
Was not that bad. Like, Dylan Gabriel played D.C. he was okay, right? He was okay. He didn't do it.
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Andrew Salchunas
He didn't do anything, like, wrong. But he didn't do anything great. Whereas I think, I think it is good to say Shador Sanders has the higher ceiling. Right. There are people that.
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Matt Myron
Oh, you believe that. You do believe that.
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Andrew Salchunas
Yeah, because there were people that had him as the number one quarterback coming out of the draft. I did not believe that. I did not.
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Matt Myron
So you have like higher ceiling, lower floor.
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Andrew Salchunas
Right, Exactly. Whereas Dylan Gabriel might be like the safe play, but safe's not going to win you anything. Safe won't win you anything in the NFL unless you have a dominant team, which the Browns don't have.
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Matt Myron
Yeah, well, I'm, I mean, I want to watch it. It's a good secondary game in the 4 o' clock segment. I'm just already tired of what's going to happen when people argue about it one way or the other. That's going to be a lot. The Patriots and the Bengals plus more. That's next here. I'm Matt Myron on espn. Matt and Myron the pod.
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Matt Myron
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Andrew Salchunas
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Matt Myron
Guys, I'm gonna be honest with you. The last few years, I thought I looked really cool with like a darker beard during the winter. Oh, I'm gonna wear a flannel and have a darker beard.
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Andrew Salchunas
And like, I thought I pulled it off. But looking back on some of these holiday photos, guys, I didn't pull it off. I didn't pull it off.
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Matt Myron
I, I, I gotta do. I'm a man who thrives with a controlled, precise stubble. Let that jawline out, let those cheekbones shine. But I'm not doing the thicker beard this holiday season. I gotta look good in these sweaters. And I, I pull off, pull off some pajamas. Look great in that.
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Andrew Salchunas
You can't be doing a beard with that.
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Matt Myron
I can't. I can't.
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It's not my look.
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Matt Myron
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Matt Myron
It is Matt Meyer on ESPN Radio. Get us up on the Dr. Pepper calling line. Actually, don't. We're not going to take calls, but you could at 888, say ESPN. We have a guest coming on as our guest picker. Is it someone from, from a television show? Is that right? Stranger Things.
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Andrew Salchunas
Yeah, Stranger Things. Joe Krest, he plays the dad of two of the main characters on the show.
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Matt Myron
Wow. That's a pretty big gift for us. Now. I haven't seen Stranger Things, have you, Andrew?
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Andrew Salchunas
Yes, it's, it's a really good show. There's a lot of, I guess, drama and politics that surround the show because they're supposed to be how old, James? Like 18.
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Matt Myron
Yeah, I mean they're old now.
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Andrew Salchunas
They're like in their 30s and 40s. It's kind of like when Greece was filled. 40s. They're not 30s and 40s, but like, yeah, they're clearly not teenagers anymore. It's like, it's like Greece when, when, you know, they were, they were high.
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Matt Myron
School students and they weren't 90210 was like that too towards the end. Andrea Zuckerman was like 57 when she was a senior in high school in nine. Well, okay. Well, I'm excited. Joe Crest is his name. He's going to be our celebrity guest picker.
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Andrew Salchunas
Love that.
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Matt Myron
For Stranger Things. Is it about video games? Is that what it's about?
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Andrew Salchunas
No, not really. I mean, I guess video games are in it a little bit, but it's like a sci fi thing. It's based, based in the 80s. So there's a lot of nostalgia feel to it as well. I mean, it's a good show. It's just season four came out when like 23. Yeah, it's been a while since season. Yeah, since the last season.
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Matt Myron
And they're still supposed to be 18.
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Andrew Salchunas
They're still, I don't know how old they're going to be in the show, but yeah, I mean, they're, there's, they're supposed to be teenagers still. Like they're, half of them are married with children at this point.
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Matt Myron
And you know, I like it though. You know what, just stay young people when you get when you get to. When you get older, things just start to hurt anyway. All right, so it is that Buccaneers and Rams, that's maybe the game of the day. Along with Chiefs, Colts. It is tonight, Sunday, Sunday Night Football. The Bucks. Tough loss last week in Buffalo, and they get no reprieve. They go immediately out to la. If you're the Rams, you look at their schedule, things are setting up, especially if you believe the pessimism around your Eagles, to where, if they could win today, they would be situated pretty well for the one seed. I think that's less about getting the home field than not having to go play out in the cold in Philly or something like that. Stafford is having an amazing season, and Baker Mayfield even called him a top five passer in history this week. How do you like to see this game playing out?
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Andrew Salchunas
It's. It's gonna be tough for Tampa. Right. So they've been banged up, as we know, since week one. I mean, this team has just been dealing with injuries, and that kind of made it so much more impressive that Baker Mayfield is playing the way that he was, which is why he was in a lot of MVP conversations. But you mentioned the fact that they're coming off the tough game against the Bills. They also lost the Patriots the week before that. So they're kind of in their gauntlet of a schedule right now. And before you know it, you look behind you. If you're Tampa, Carolina's right there. Now, I don't think the Carolina Panthers win the NFC South. I think Tampa eventually overcomes it, especially when their schedule lightens up a little bit. But this seemed like the first year in a long time where the Bucs would be able to win the division kind of handedly. And since these last two losses and potentially a third straight loss tonight, it makes things a little bit more difficult for him. But, I mean, that. That Rams team is dangerous. And, you know, you mentioned pessimism in Philadelphia. I think it's just looking at what the Eagles had to do to overcome the Rams earlier this year. It was those two block kicks in the fourth quarter last year, if it wasn't for the Jalen Carter sack on third down, the Rams had a wide. A receiver wide open in the end zone that, you know, Stafford's probably making that throw. And then the snow game. The Eagles only have 25 seconds to go downfield to try to win it. The Rams are a really dangerous team in this nfc, and. And this is a big spot for them to. To get their ninth win.
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Matt Myron
Well, I picked the Rams to make the super bowl. In the preseason, I had Bill's Rams. I'm wavering on the Bills, but I'm actually not wavering on the Rams. I feel. I feel good about where they are this year. I even. I. You do have to take a step back and say what Matthew Stafford has done is pretty amazing.
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Andrew Salchunas
It's amazing. Especially, remember the talking point before the season started, there was all the worry about the back.
- [28:46]
Matt Myron
Yeah.
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Andrew Salchunas
I mean, they had the back injuries. He was getting epidural injections, and you're going, man, that. That's not good. He's even played a game yet. What's going to happen? Sean McVeigh keeps on saying, if we're playing today, he'll play. If we're playing today, he'll play. Well, what happens after he plays? Because I know that your back doesn't just get better after getting.
- [29:02]
Matt Myron
I guess it does, though. Does it? Apparently it does. I mean, apparent. Apparently, they're. Apparently, it works out just fine. I have. I think they're dangerous. I think they can beat you in a lot of ways. I think Sean McVeigh, if he's not the smartest coach in the league, he's in the top three or four. So they have all the pieces. For me, I do wonder if the Bucks, you know, with the gauntlet they've had, there's a world. This game gets ugly to me, where, like, the Rams just kind of run away with it. But the thing about Baker is every single time you're ready to say, well, this guy, that. That's it here. Here, he's like Dolly Parton. Here he comes again. And there I go. Because he continues to. He really impresses me. And watching him up close last week in Buffalo, he has his receivers like he does not have the windows he should because all those guys are hurt. And yet he still finds a way.
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Andrew Salchunas
Yeah. And look, it's not like he played poorly. Last week. They scored 30, what, 32 points, 33.
- [30:08]
Matt Myron
I mean, they should win most of the time. When you. When you score that many points, Panthers and 49ers, Monday Night Football on ESPN, it's probably one of those games that, when the season came out, ESPN was like, this is what we got. And now it ends up being a pretty big game because the panthers can. They're 6 and 5 and continue to move along.
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Andrew Salchunas
Yeah. And especially if the Bucks lose tonight. Now all of a sudden, you're talking about them potentially being tied for the division. If the Panthers are able to win, and if not, if the 49ers get a win, it's another win to their total in an NFC west. That's really exciting. Right. You have the 49ers. You could potentially, you're either going to have three NFC north teams or three NFC west teams in the playoffs this year because of what you're seeing with San Francisco, Seattle and also the Rams that we're talking about. It really is amazing how those two, those two divisions are just sort of running the nfc. Except for the Eagles on top of the.
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Matt Myron
I am, I've been really impressed with the Panthers, although they can look awful sometimes. I mean, they are a feast or famine team. They either win a game they shouldn't win or they just get absolutely annihilated and look, they can look like the worst team in football and then come out and win a road game at Green Bay. So I honestly have no idea what's going to show show up in the 49ers game. There's a world where the game comes down last play. There's a world where they're down 24 and Peyton Manning's trying to get something out of Lamelo Ball to, to be, to entertain. Like there's no way to know.
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Andrew Salchunas
Yeah, I mean the Bryce Young talking points have been wild this year. Right. Because I know there's still a lot of confusion if he's the guy moving forward in Carolina. I think Dave Canales has done a great job with them. But last year, remember he got benched for Andy Dalton last year and then comes back because Dalton gets hurt and he plays pretty well. So he gets another year this year. And to your point, the games that they have looked really good in, he's looked really good in. The games that they have not looked good in, he's not looked good in. And that's why they're 6 and 5. That's why there are 500 football team.
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Matt Myron
By the way, Florida State. There are reports Mike Norvell will return as Florida State's coach. How about that? That will be. There'll be some upset Seminole fans probably running around right now. Well, we will have a guest picker and we will make picks in all the games. That finishes up next right here at Matt Myron, Matt and Myron the Podcast. Hey, Ryan Reynolds here wishing you a very happy half off holiday because right.
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Andrew Salchunas
Yeah, it's a really good show. And the final season debuts next week, but they're splitting it up into like three parts. They're doing a part one, a part two, and then the finale I think is New Year's Eve. So they're gonna, they're gonna drag this one out.
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Matt Myron
I don't know what that means. It's gonna like release all over the course of the month.
- [34:54]
Andrew Salchunas
Yeah, it's like, you know, it's season five, Part one, kind of Ozark did that where they kind of split it up into. It's, it's technically season five and season six. That's how I look at it. But they're gonna split it up a little bit. You'll get a couple episodes next week, a couple episodes in December, and then a couple episode or the final episode on New Year's Eve. So it's the final, final one or.
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Matt Myron
There'S gonna be more than that.
- [35:14]
Andrew Salchunas
No, that's it. That's the last episode. Yeah, this is, this is the final season. They're just kind of dragging it out a little bit. But no, he's, he's been in everything.
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Matt Myron
He's been in Family Matters, which I, which I enjoyed and 21 Jump Street. All right, so we don't have him yet. So we'll go ahead and start. It's time to take your pick. All right. So yeah, no, I. I don't know anything about stranger things so I can't theme it. Let's just get started. What's up first? Steelers, Bears. What happened? We don't have the.
- [35:53]
Joe Kress
I'm doing five things at once.
- [35:56]
Matt Myron
I'll do like he would do at Bears. Thank you. There you go. Steelers, Bears. I'll let you go first. Andrew is our guest.
- [36:04]
Andrew Salchunas
Give me the backup quarterback theory. The line has not moved even with the Mason Rudolph noise. Noise and news. So I'm going to go with the Steelers in this one against Chicago.
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Matt Myron
Mason Rudolph has one of these like or has a couple games every year he's been the backup presumably for me, since Terry Bradshaw was the quarterback. I feel like he's been there and he always like he'll have a game or two every season where he comes in and plays well. I kind of think this is the spot where he does. So I'm kind of with you. I'm going to take the Steelers even though part of it is my overall pessimism about my team in general. But I'm going to take the Steelers. What's next? Vikings at Packers.
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Andrew Salchunas
Andrew, I'm going to go with the Packer Packers. I don't believe in nine JJ McCarthy and the Alter ego. I think the packers need this game because if they lose this one they'll be on the outside looking in. So I'll go with the packers at home tonight.
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Matt Myron
This game is on ESPN Radio. I would say when, when a good team needs a game, I tend to think they get it. It's the same reason I'm going to make a couple picks later on in this as well. I think the packers are a good team. I think when you are at home and you need a game, you've got to win it. So I'm going to take the Packers. But I will say this. If they lose this one, considering my good teams win games they need to, I may have to take them out of the good team roster.
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Andrew Salchunas
Yeah.
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Matt Myron
But I think they win today and I actually think they win by a decent margin. Give me the Packers. What's next? Patriots at Bengals.
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Andrew Salchunas
Bengals stink.
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Matt Myron
Their defense stinks for sure. Joe Flacco. Give me. Give Joe Flacco some credit. Can you not give Joe Flacco some credit?
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Andrew Salchunas
He's there.
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Matt Myron
Good.
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Andrew Salchunas
Good for him. They don't have Jamar Chase though. Considering Spitgate Point 2, 2.0. Because we already had that earlier this year with Jalen Carter. Give me the pass.
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Matt Myron
All right, I'm going to, you know, I'm going to go ahead and say the Pats as well, but I actually think the Beagles will play this game oddly close. Like you're, like you. You know, you. You'll go into this game in the fourth quarter and go, wait a minute. Is Flacco going to be able to pull it off? But he ends up not. I'll take the Patriots. What's next? Giants head Lions. Any you give any chance for the scatterboat dartless Giants here?
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Andrew Salchunas
No. Especially considering the Lions coming off of a loss to the Eagles in a game in which they had circled and I would imagine they try to try to bounce back against a pretty bad Giants team. Give me the Lions.
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Matt Myron
I'm going to go ahead and say the Lions as well. I think they. They get the win. We actually now have. Our guy Joe Crest is on the phone from Stranger Things. He plays Ted Wheeler. The new season premieres Wednesday on Netflix. Joe, nice to have you join us, man.
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Joe Kress
So good to join you. Thanks for having me.
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Matt Myron
That's okay. Tell us quickly what to expect in the final season of Stranger Things. I know Andrew and James here are looking forward to it. It.
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Joe Kress
Well, there's a. There's a little sports action possibly coming up. There is what I can tell you. They have a such under lock and key. But I'll tell you, it's. People are going to be shocked. Anybody who knows the show or followed the show, it's a little jaw dropping as it gets started. But, you know, we only have to keep it under lock and key for a few more days. Thankfully, it's really hard under wraps.
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Matt Myron
I may get you to discuss it with me after it comes out so we can do a little review. I've actually never seen it, Joe, and I'm going to start this week so that I'm ready for the finale on New Year's Eve.
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Joe Kress
Oh, man. Yeah, I think you'll enjoy it. I don't know. You know, it's not for everybody, but it's for a lot of people. I actually love the show. It's one of the few things I'm in that I actually watch.
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Matt Myron
Oh, wow. Don't say that about family matters, Joe. All right, we're going to pick these games. You ready to go?
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Joe Kress
Absolutely.
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Matt Myron
All right, let's go. What's next? Seahawks and Titans.
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Andrew Salchunas
Andrew, give me the Seahawks. It's been fun for Cam Moore this year.
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Matt Myron
But Joe.
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Joe Kress
Yeah, I gotta go Seahawks as well. You know, the Titans are a little bit of a mess. Not a little bit for me, a.
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Matt Myron
Lot of bit of a mess. I'll take the Seahawks as well. What's next? Cold said Chiefs game of the day.
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Andrew Salchunas
Andrew, Give me Casey. They're not going under 500 in November.
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Matt Myron
They can't go under 500, can they Joe?
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Joe Kress
They can. You know, some might say, you know, their, their five losses are what, one score games and so that tells me they're not good at close games. So I think this one's going to be close. I'm going Colts.
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Matt Myron
Wow. Stranger things. Dad is talking trash. I'm going to take the Chiefs though. We'll put you on your own for that one. What's next? Jets and Ravens. Andrew. Go ahead, Andrew.
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Andrew Salchunas
Give me the future AFC north champion Ravens in this one against the.
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Matt Myron
Oh, are they going to fly? We'll find out. What do you got, Joe?
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Joe Kress
Yeah, I got to go Ravens. The jets are, are pretty bad. My, my agent, the way I picked him up, he's in. He's a die hard jets fan and I knew from that he was going to be a loyal guy. But you have that much pain, you.
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Matt Myron
Have that much pain, you have to know how to persevere. I'll take the Ravens as well. What's next? Browns at Raiders. Shador. What's he gonna do?
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Andrew Salchunas
Andrew Shedor Sanders wins it thanks to like six sacks by Miles Garrett and they win like 10 to 7. Go bless.
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Joe Kress
Oh, going against him again. I'm going Raiders. I know it's a, it's a hot pick, but I got to go with my man Geno. West Virginia. I'm from West Virginia and Brown's quarterbacks haven't done to. The rookie quarterbacks haven't done too well in the last 17 start.
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Matt Myron
Look at this. Look at these stats. I got to take Shador. But I like that you're bringing some contrary views. What's next? Eagles at Cowboys. What do you got, Andrew?
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Andrew Salchunas
Oh, flag was fly. I need to get to my car outside of my studio here in Philly. Go Birds.
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Matt Myron
Yeah. Fly Eagles, fly. Let's go. What do you got, Joe?
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Joe Kress
Whoa, whoa, man. I'm the contrarian.
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Matt Myron
You're taking the Cowboys.
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Joe Kress
Give me Dak Prescott. Yeah, Cowboys.
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Matt Myron
These are stranger things in your picks. What's next? Yeah, Jaguars at Cardinals on ESPN Radio. What do you got, Andrew?
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Andrew Salchunas
Cardinal Cardinals defense bothers Trevor Lawrence. Give me Arizona.
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Matt Myron
These are the kind of games Arizona wins. I've taken the Cardinals Joe, Goodness.
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Joe Kress
Graces. I'm not trying to be a contrarian. I want the Jags. They got it. Yeah. I think they're looking like a playoff team. 6 and 4, but go ahead and write it down.
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Matt Myron
Playoff team to the Jags. Your guy. Listen, I love it. Joe, you're bringing it. What's next? Falcons at Saints. Andrew, you like that?
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Andrew Salchunas
Give me Kirk Cousins in the Falcons.
- [43:33]
Matt Myron
Oh, you're gonna take your cousins. Wow. All right, Joe, what do you got?
- [43:38]
Joe Kress
Yeah, that throws a wrench into it with Cousins. I definitely would have gone, but I'm sticking with the Saints. My pick, Tyler Shuck. He's one and. Oh, got one more win than me and he's gonna double that.
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Matt Myron
I think Joe just hears what Andrew says. It's like I'm taking the opposite of that dude from field.
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Joe Kress
I'm gonna have to start going first just to prove that I'm not trying to do the upside down.
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Matt Myron
Taking the Saints just because you convinced me. I mean, why would I believe in Andrew? He doesn't know anything. What's next? Buccaneers at Rams.
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Andrew Salchunas
Andrew, give me the Rams.
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Matt Myron
You're going with the Rams. But, like, you've made him speechless now. He doesn't even want to explain it, Joe, because he knows. You're going to take Tampa Bay here, aren't you?
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Joe Kress
Absolutely. No, no, I'm going Rams. Stafford very good at. Probably win the mvp. Yeah, Rams. Easy.
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Matt Myron
Yeah, I like the Rams in this one, too. I think the Bucks are beat up after a tough stretch. I think the Rams win and maybe even pull away at the end. And finally, on Monday Night football, Panthers at 49ers.
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Andrew Salchunas
Andrew, Panthers turn to a pumpkin. Give me the 49ers.
- [44:46]
Matt Myron
You gotta take the 49ers. This would be a. This would be a heck of one for them to win. 49ers schedule's easy down the stretch. What do you got, Joe?
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Joe Kress
Yeah, I'm not trying to just be agreeable. I'm going. 49ers got a pretty good quarterback.
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Matt Myron
Yes, they do. I'm going to take. Actually, I. Brock Purdy and Mac Jones, I think are now the same person. I can't tell them apart. So I'm going to take. I'm going to take the 49ers to win at home against the Panthers. Joe Kress from Stranger Things. The new season debuts Wednesday. Great stuff. Thank you for your time.
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Joe Kress
All right, thanks, guys. Let's do what we do.
- [45:23]
Matt Myron
Let's see. We'll find out. If you do well, that means Andrew Salchunas did not Andrew, thank you very much for filling in today. I hope you enjoyed it.
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Andrew Salchunas
It was a lot of fun. Thanks, man. It was cool working with you this time because I've been with Myron a few times so it's cool working with you.
- [45:37]
Matt Myron
Yeah, well, you're one of the few that enjoyed it so I, I appreciate it. Game day is up next with Kevin Clark, Mike Tannenbaum and Drew Franklin. That's not his name, that's my co host name, Drew Butler. We'll see you later. This has been Matt, Matt and Myron, the podcast.
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Andrew Salchunas
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