WICKED STARS: Jeff Goldblum on His Career, Creativity, and the Joy of Reunion

Summary

Sunday Sitdown with Willie Geist

Guest: Jeff Goldblum

Episode: WICKED STARS: Jeff Goldblum on His Career, Creativity, and the Joy of Reunion
Date: November 8, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Willie Geist welcomes the ever-delightful Jeff Goldblum to chat at New York’s famed Cafe Carlyle. Ostensibly focused on Goldblum’s return as Dr. Ian Malcolm in Jurassic World Dominion, their conversation traverses the actor’s long, eclectic career, his philosophy of creativity, the deep joy of professional reunions, and his passion for music. What unfolds is a deeply engaging, often philosophical discussion ranging from early showbiz memories to the enduring impact of pop culture catchphrases and the art of living creatively.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. 29 Years of Jurassic Park & The Joy of Reunion

• Reflecting on the Original Premiere
  • The episode kicks off with Willie sharing that June 9th marked the 29th anniversary of the Jurassic Park premiere.
  • Goldblum expresses surprise at the date, recalling Laura Dern reminding him they were in Washington, D.C. for the first premiere ([02:17]).
  • On the passage of time:
    • "As I sit here right now, I'd say a long time ago… my standard answer is kind of both at the same time. Because time is what is time." — Jeff Goldblum ([02:52])
• Did Jurassic Park Change His Life?
  • Goldblum downplays any single, transformative moment:
    • "I don't have a recollection of feeling like, golly, my life has changed... Nor have I ever felt that any one thing has ever gone, wow, yesterday... What a difference a day makes." ([05:15])
• Careful Choices and the Metaphysics of Life
  • He muses on small choices, like navigating traffic, being potentially life-changing:
    • "The one thing you do today that could change your life substantially is being on the road... be careful how you walk down the street and how you... behind a car, you know?" ([06:43])

2. Returning to Jurassic & Creative Gratitude

• Working With the Original Cast

  • Goldblum is effusive about the creative joy of reuniting with Laura Dern, Sam Neill, and a new cast ([07:48]).
    • "To be in a movie that if nothing else... entertains them and means something to them here and there, you know, it's awful fun. And to work with creative people now that's the thing that I really did focus myself on." ([07:48])
  • On the pandemic 'bubble' production:
    • Tells a heartfelt story about arriving with his family and being greeted by Laura Dern and Sam Neill ([11:09]).
    • Spielberg’s emotional response to seeing the trio back together:
      • "Colin sent that picture to Mr. The great Mr. Steven Spielberg who said back... that he was emotional." — Jeff Goldblum ([12:16])

• Reintroducing Dinosaurs to a New World

  • On what audiences can expect:
    • "Dinosaurs are all over the world... it's kind of an epic in scope little story that takes us all over the place... we have nice little parts so we're all over it if that interests anybody." ([14:05])
  • Bringing his kids to see the movie in theaters for the first time ([14:43]).

3. Parenting, Technology, and the Social Media Landscape

• Goldblum and Geist share candid exchanges about raising kids in the age of screens and social media ([15:46]).

  • Both express concern over exposure and celebrate their efforts to keep their children grounded and off social media for as long as possible.
    • “It's tough. I can imagine you got an almost 15-year-old daughter, you want her to be safe in all the ways you can keep her safe. And that’s one, is keeping her off places like Instagram, but we'll see how long it lasts.” — Willie Geist ([16:33])

• Goldblum reflects on the unknowable, long-term effects of social media—likening it to the printing press in terms of potential societal impact ([17:07]).

4. Early Acting Influences & Philosophies

• Discovering Acting as a Child

  • Goldblum shares memories of finding his calling during drama camp in his early teens ([22:00]).
    • “I was obsessed by it... I got a shocking realization: Hey, I've got to pick. There's life outside Mommy and daddy... and I've got to figure it out and kind of do something like that.” — Jeff Goldblum ([22:11])
  • Credits his parents for encouraging his passion—his father’s advice:
    • “If you find something you love doing, that might be a vocational guide...” ([22:13])

• Moving to New York & Breaking In

  • Discusses the leap of faith in moving to NYC at 17 and his parents’ surprisingly supportive approach ([24:30]):
    • “So anyway... they were okay with it and supported it. And then before long, I started to get jobs and, you know, make a living at it. And there you go.” ([24:42])

5. Notable Career Moments & The Myth of the “Big Break”

• On Breakthroughs:

  • Goldblum resists the notion of a single ‘break:’
    • “Nothing felt like the day after. Or, hey, I got my break... I was continuing to learn, happy that, gee, I hope nobody finds out that I'm not an actor yet.” ([28:05])

• On The Fly as a Creative Landmark:

  • Discusses how The Fly was formative creatively, but not necessarily a neat career linchpin ([29:47]).
    • “The main thing for me is that it was a creative landmark... I had a juicy and growth-producing time of it.” ([29:47])

• Pop Culture Legacy: “Life Finds a Way”

  • On the viral endurance of his Jurassic Park line:
    • “It's a little bit of a good resonant phrase. So, yeah, that's nice that I got a chance to utter that.” ([32:19])
  • Philosophical perspective on fame’s fleeting nature:
    • “It'll be forgotten soon enough and all this, all our activities here will be fleeting and will turn to dust.” ([32:57])

6. Curiosity, Creativity, and Presence

• Being Present

  • Geist compliments Goldblum for living in the moment and exuding authentic joy ([33:27]).
    • Goldblum agrees, connecting it to his acting training and overall life philosophy:
      • “You have to be open to really live optimally under imaginary circumstances or in life. You've got to be interested and available perhaps to some new, interesting, infinitely...” ([35:29])

• On Curiosity & The Value of Experience

  • Comparing life’s moments to the lessons in “Our Town:”
    • “Look, I didn't appre—Look, there's the last time I saw. I didn't realize that was the last time I was going to see my grandfather.... There's something about here on Earth, you know, we live on a special that we could easily take for granted.” ([38:18])

7. Side Adventures: “The World According to Jeff Goldblum”

• Discusses his experience with his Disney+ reality series:
  • “I got a chance to talk to people like this and then amongst the wheat and the chaff, they nicely... cut out the stupid parts and make me look as good as possible.” ([39:27])
• Hints at a noncommittal possibility of future seasons ([40:03]).

8. Music as Joy and Meditative Practice

• Jazz & Childhood Influences
  • Started music lessons young, drifted to jazz by age 10 ([40:42]).
  • Audaciously cold-called piano gigs in Pittsburgh at 15, finding joy and community in music ([41:04]).
• Music as a Daily Tonic
  • “When I play music in the morning, it changes my... molecules... it is a tonic. It is kind of, you know, a sweet, pleasant thing.” ([46:58])
  • Views music as “overlapping” with acting and life:
    • “Life itself is musical and at its best, it's kind of musical, you know, and vibrational, you know, even... and pulse, pulse-driven and, you know, breathing in and out.” ([45:06])
  • Recounts the fun of playing live jazz in intimate settings like the Cafe Carlyle ([44:27]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Returning to 'Jurassic Park':

  • "It was very focused kind of playtime, you know, work time to kind of get it right... And Colin [Trevorrow]... the crew and they were all kind of interested and a little bit, you know, emotional and like that and made her emotional... it was emotional. I... remember... it was very sweet being with them. They're great actors, and great people. They changed my life really." ​— Jeff Goldblum ([12:16])

• On the Impact of Acting Teachers:

  • “Sandy Meisner... said, you know, here's a worthwhile way to spend your life, you know, and you can keep getting better at it forever.” ([07:48])

• On the Fleeting Nature of Fame:

  • “It'll be forgotten soon enough... but for now, fleetingly, it's sweet that... through 30 years... things pop up... That's cute.” ([32:57])

• On Living in the Present:

  • "You've got to be interested and available perhaps to some new, interesting, infinitely... The big bang is in you and I don't know everything about you... And then you gotta pretend moment to moment. That's the acting part of it." — Jeff Goldblum ([35:29])

• On Childhood Support:

  • “My dad... said, if you find something you love doing, that might be a vocational guide…” ([22:13])

• On Music and Joy:

  • “This, I kind of, is just for fun. I really don't have to try too hard to just have fun without concern for... just for its own sake. And that kind of bleeds over... into my life... where I'm going, there's no place to get. This is not gonna get me anything. It really is just fun for its own sake or a chance to rejoice for its own sake. Anyway, music does that for me.” ([45:06])

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• Jurassic Park Anniversary & Time Reflection: [02:17] – [07:34]
• The Joy of Reunion & Pandemic “Bubble” Filming: [10:52] – [14:43]
• Parenting in the Digital Age: [15:46] – [17:38]
• Early Acting Inspiration: [22:00] – [27:06]
• Career “Breaks” & The Fly: [28:05] – [31:16]
• Iconic Line “Life Finds a Way”: [32:14] – [33:06]
• Presence, Curiosity, and Acting Philosophy: [33:27] – [38:16]
• “The World According to Jeff Goldblum” Reality Show: [39:12] – [40:03]
• Musical Beginnings & Role of Jazz: [40:42] – [46:58]
• Philosophy of Music & Daily Practice: [45:01] – [48:27]

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Conclusion

This conversation, as playful and unpredictable as Jeff Goldblum himself, is a celebration of creative living, meaningful connection, and the delight of rediscovery. Goldblum’s deep gratitude—for creative opportunities, for family, for the music and mentors that shaped him—shines through at every turn. Whether discussing Jurassic Park, parenting, or improvising on the piano, Goldblum embodies a rare openness, ever-curious and reverent for the present moment.

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To experience more, catch Jurassic World Dominion in theaters, and don't miss future episodes of Sunday Sitdown with Willie Geist!

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[A]

Today. You say today, June 9th. Is that true?

[B]

29 years ago in DC. It was in DC the very first premiere. And then it came out a couple of days later.

[A]

I must have been there. Laura Dern, the great Laura, Oscar winning Laura Dern reminded me because we've been doing some. Some of these in cahoots. She reminded me the other day that. Oh, yes, we were in Washington dc. Yeah, but I didn't know until you just said it. That was the first one. Really? That was the first premiere.

[B]

That was the day. Does that feel like a lifetime ago? Does that feel like yesterday? What's your sort of perspective on this Jurassic run?

[A]

As I sit here right now a long time. I mean, my standard answer is kind of both at the same time. Cause time is. What is time. But as I sit here right now, I'd say a long time ago. What's that? Nice hum. Oh, that's.

[B]

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[A]

Sweet. By the way, sliders. When do they come onto the menu? And why do they call them sliders? They slide on the track. Yeah, no, not that slider. The other slider. Oh, the actual on the menu.

[B]

I didn't know we were talking about cheeseburger.

[A]

Well, cheeseburgers, yes, yes. But in my day, in early on, I. Something happened that. Where we introduced the slider. I'm just free. I'm free. Associate.

[B]

No, but. But I want to go there with you.

[A]

Yes, please.

[B]

Here's my thing on the slider.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

You think? Oh, I'm just getting the sliders. They're smaller, but if you really add it up, those three sliders are bigger than the burger that you were going to order in the first place.

[A]

They give you three.

[B]

They give you three sliders.

[A]

Well. And do you always go with the bun? Do you always choose to eat the bun?

[B]

It's a lot of bun.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Sometimes I'll remove the bun and then you've just got the three patties.

[A]

You never order it in a lettuce wrap, do you?

[B]

Can you do that? Is that an option?

[A]

In California? We do, yeah. Yeah. As you can imagine, that's why people hate us. As they should. Yeah.

[B]

If you're gonna get a burger, just go with it. Have the bun, go all in.

[A]

Maybe so. Maybe so. Anyway. Sliders. Sliders. Okay, so I was saying before I'm dropping mental breadcrumbs, before we. You were talking about Washington D.C. scope of 29 years. Yes, sir. Yeah. No, I mean, well, I tell you, when Laura Dern Mentioned it to me the other day. I had forgotten. I can't. As I sit here, I can't really remember. It's the truth of it. Washington D.C. as distinct from anything else. I don't remember that we were there first. I don't know. It's kind of. Anyway, see, it must be a long time ago, or I'm going to dim some bridges.

[B]

Well, no, you're forgiven. There were many premieres, I'm sure, to that movie. And it was a long time ago.

[A]

In a movie like this.

[B]

But does that moment, the explosion of that film that made a billion dollars and set records at the time, does that feel recent to you, or does that feel like that was a long time ago and it changed my life and set me off in a different direction?

[A]

Well, the same question asked in a different way, you know, it feels a long time ago and kind of recent, you know? And kind of recent. And I don't know that it changed my life. Not like you'd think professionally, I guess, in retrospect. But I don't have a recollection of feeling like, golly, my life has changed. You know what I mean? Sure, you must have had moments like this, but maybe you've experienced it differently. No, I don't. As I remember it, I. Nor have I ever felt that any one thing has ever gone, wow, yesterday. You know, what a difference a day makes. Do you know that song?

[B]

Sure, yeah.

[A]

You do. By. That's a good question. 24 little hours a day. By whom? What a difference a day makes. But that's the subject of. That's what we're saying now. I've never had the feeling of, geez, yesterday was much different than today. Although going from forwards to backwards. Listen to this. That just occurred to me. May mean nothing or be coherent. The choices. If there's any such thing as free will, put a bookmark on that. The choices that we make today, one might consider, what am I doing today that can actually make a difference in. In my own life? What could change things? I'll tell you, the one thing that occurs to me is traffic, is navigating in traffic. I tell myself often, and I tell it to my wife, Emily, hey, the one thing you do today that could change your life substantially is being on the road, is getting behind the wheel or walking down the street. You know what I mean? Sure. So anyway, be careful how you walk down the street and how you. Behind a car, you know? Yeah. So those are the moments. You should be particularly careful like that. Besides that, you know, who knows we engage in things that have long term possible, that bear long term fruits, talking to, having exchange with your kids, going to the gym, nothing is gonna, you know, transform things in a day, et cetera, et cetera.

[B]

But with all that said though, Jeff, what is it like to be back here now in, in this movie? Something that was a long time ago doesn't feel like it. What's it like to be sitting here back in the world of Jurassic privileged?

[A]

I feel lucky. I don't take it for granted. It certainly wouldn't have been predictable or expected 30 years ago. Hey, like I have said here and there, when I was a kid, I was hot about the idea of being an actor and I knew it was a long shot to ever get to do it so. And I'm still aware of that. The fact that I've gotten chances to keep doing it kind of not uncommonly continually over now a longish period of time is I feel privileged and appreciative of it. And to be in a movie that if nothing else kind of, you know, gets people's attention, entertains them and means something to them here and there, you know, it's awful fun. And to work with creative people now that's the thing that I really did focus myself on. I was hot to not only be an actor but to have this creative adventure. And I had a good teacher, Sandy Meisner, who said, you know, here's a worthwhile way to spend your life, you know, and you can keep getting better at it forever. And so that's been important to me. You know, early on that's been transformational and life changing. And now I'm appreciative as much for that as anything else that I'm working with. Interesting, great people. We mentioned Laura Dern and Sam Neill, but dejuan Dwyes and Bryce, Dallas Howard and Chris Pratt and all those people and Colin Trevorrow, Steven Spielberg all those years ago. The whole bunch of people all along this journey have been a thrill to work with. I know that possibly sounds politic, but it's true.

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Welcome back. Now more of my conversation with Jeff Goldblum. So we were discussing Jurassic Park. I think it's been a while.

[A]

And all the Jurassic Park. This is the sixth of the installments.

[B]

It is. And to be back with Laura and to be back with Sam, back with that team and conjuring such nostalgia for those of us who loved the first one. Seeing the three of you together, what was it like to walk on set with them?

[A]

Fantastic. Fantastic. Great. You know, I'd been prepared in my mind for some months and been working on it. And then we contacted each other over the phone. You know, how's this gonna go? And what can we do? But. Yes, but then I saw them. We all. You know, we were the first production out in the bubble. Yeah. Caused by Covid and Alexandra Derbyshire, I should mention, and her cohort Pat Crowley invented these protocol calls, you know, but still keep us safe on all these things. So we were able to. And it was. There were no vaccines then. It was, you know. Yeah. But anyway, we did it. But. So we all bubbled ourselves up at this hotel is the fascinating thing I was gonna tell you. Oh, oh, oh. Laura and Sam. So I pulled up with Emily and the two kids. Cause they spent the whole three months with us there. And Sam and Laura had found out when I was arriving and were there stationed on some little balcony and gave me a very sweet and crazy, you know, hello. And then we embraced. It was great. And then the first day on the set, Laura tells this story, by the way. She says hello. She adores you. Yeah, likewise. She loves you. She said, we were there. We did a scene, you've seen the movie, I don't want to give anything away, where we're all in a jeep, the three of us. And we were packed in this jeep, in fact, for one shot of that. My kids were there. There was a rig that allowed us to go all the way around. We were harnessed up. In any case, the three of us were there kind of improvising and doing things. And we showed up and she said that Colin Trevorrow, our wonderful director, took a picture and she saw the crew and they were all kind of interested and a little bit, you know, emotional and like that and made her emotional. And then he's. Colin sent that picture to Mr. The great Mr. Steven Spielberg, who said back to him and he related to us that he was emotional, you know, so it was, it was emotional. What I remember from it was very sweet being with them. They're great. They're great actors, as you know, and, and great people. Great people. They changed my life, really. They're great. They're fantastic. And. But what I remember is that was a very focused kind of playtime, you know, work time to kind of get it right. Our first scene and, you know, I was going, what can we do? And Colin, da, da, da. And how about this and how about that? And you know, like that. So we went to work.

[B]

You went to work and you went to work well, and you stepped back into a story for people who are getting ready to go see this. Where we now find the dinosaurs. I won't give too much away, but we're having to coexist and to live in the same spaces as dinosaurs. So what else should somebody who's gonna go out and watch this know about where we find ourselves in Jurassic World?

[A]

You know, they don't have to be too overly prepared. It's four years since the last story, kind of in real time. And yes, dinosaurs are all over the world. So it's kind of an epic in scope little story that takes us all over the place. And the three of us don't have just little tidbits, you know, we're not just a garnish on a sweet platter. But, you know, we have nice little parts. So we're over it if that interests anybody. And What. What else? It's a movie that you want to see in the movie theater because it's big and loud. We're going to take our kids, as a matter of fact, for the first time to see a. A movie in a movie theater this coming Sunday.

[B]

Oh, their first ever movie will be Dad's movie.

[A]

Yes. Never seen it. I mean, yeah.

[B]

Now what do you do? You just walk up and buy a ticket at your local movie house?

[A]

We pre. As one can do these days. We prepare. You know, we. We pre. Bought our tickets. So we've got. We've got the row and everything for this.

[B]

You know, that's gonna be a thing when Jeff Goldblum walks into the theater and there he is up on the screen, not just for your kids, but for everyone in there.

[A]

Let's see. We'll see, you know, we'll see how much of a thing it is, but I'll try to keep a low profile.

[B]

Do the boys have a sense. Obviously they know what you do for a living, but what exactly it looks like when dad works.

[A]

Yeah, they've been on the set and sort of. I don't think they know that. It's. I don't know what they know. Who knows how their brains are working? They seem to be in wonderland of some kind, as you know. But. Yeah. Yes, yes. I tell them, I pretend and we play movie, you know, and I say action. And they. They. Then they direct me and we play that movie game and. But they've seen me in things. They saw the Jurassic park movies on tv, you know, and we try to keep them off screens for the most part.

[B]

Good. You know, that's hard.

[A]

Don't you think so? Yes. It's gonna be harder a little later already. They know what to do to. To do things just for schoolwork and stuff, but they're not. And they've gotten hold of. We try to stay off our things around them, but they get a hold of them and they go, what's your code? What's your code? We know Mama's code. What's your. I won't tell them my code. So anyway, they see trailers to horror movies and things. I go, wait a minute, wait a minute.

[B]

That's the thing. You get on YouTube and you watch one thing that looks innocuous, but then the next thing. And then the next thing, and they.

[A]

Go down these rabbit holes down the road with.

[B]

We've prevented them from social media. So 13 and 15. We're holding on for dear life.

[A]

So smart. And how do you.

[B]

As far as we know, I'm sure they have secret accounts that we're unaware of, but we think we're being good.

[A]

Really.

[B]

It's tough. It's tough. I can imagine you got a almost 15 year old daughter, you want her to be safe and all the ways you can keep her safe and that's one is keeping her off places like Instagram, but we'll see how long it lasts.

[A]

Even Instagram, she can't, she can't go on.

[B]

No, she's got Snapchat, which is how they talk to each other. That's what I, from what I understand, we're doing our best. It's hard, it's very hard because that's the world they all live in. It's where they congregate and talk to each other and so, yeah, and all.

[A]

The dangers and, you know, potential, you know, benefits, I suppose. Yeah. But I just saw an elongated podcast amongst some experts who was talking about the impact of social media. Since many people are talking about, you know, over the last couple decades, but where we're at and what real impact it'll have over the next 10 or 20 or 100 years with the species, you know, like the printing press was a kind of a landmark in some ways anyway, we could talk about that. But yeah, anyway, so we keep them off screens so they're going to see this movie and yeah, hopefully they'll get a kick out of it.

[B]

Have you seen the movie? Have you sat and watched it yet?

[A]

I've seen it twice. They showed it to the cast and a few, couple of friends some month or two ago. I was very interested what they keep in, what they keep out. Oh, I'm okay. I think that was okay. Et cetera, et cetera. Hey, that's really good. And then I saw it one other time, a second time in London with the crew. It was basically an all British crew mostly and they were, it was sweet to be around them and show it to them and all our work, you know, they kind of, you know, put a big investment in doing it during that period too. And they had to be bubbled up, they couldn't go out, see anybody, all that stuff. And so that was a very sweet experience. And then I saw it with a bit of a crowd and I had a great experience of not just selling it, but I was kind of very with it. And on the edge of my seat and there are a lot of jumps in it. The dinosaurs made me jump a bunch of times, you know, which is sort of enjoyable. And then. And the characters by that Time. And now we've been immersed in spending time with each other, doing this publicity. So I was very kind talking about it. So I was very kind of immersed in the characters and the dinosaurs. And I was even kind of choked up and kind of. I was really with it, you know, So I loved it. This will be the third time. The third, I think this time with the kids, with a real. Real audience that hopefully this weekend will be, you know, full and enthusiastic. I think will be, I hope, a. An exciting experience.

[B]

I agree with you. See it in the theater.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's the way to. Right. Experience it and feel the rumble of the dinosaurs running and all that stuff.

[A]

Yes. Well, you've been in some movies now. What movies?

[B]

No, we're not talking about me.

[A]

Okay, but wait a minute. And have you ever. Besides all this, which is a kind of acting, I suppose, but you've also acted or ever wanted to act?

[B]

Well, I was.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

We're going deep here.

[A]

Just for a brief. But bear with us because I'm sure they're interested in you.

[B]

In fifth grade, summer stock, Ridgewood, New Jersey, my mother put. I was playing sports almost exclusively. She said, we have to broaden ourselves out our range of interest because you.

[A]

Were a jock, go do the theater.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Very interesting. So very good, because you were the captain of your.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. She's been all over Wikipedia.

[A]

I know, I know. And look at you still now. So she said, we've got to make you. Maybe there's an arty side, too.

[B]

So do a little. And I did. I really did enjoy it. So the production that summer was annie. I was 9 or 10. And as you may know, Ms. Hannigan's orphanage was all girls. But they made an exception and allowed one boy in Miss Hannigan's orphanage. So there I was, scrubbing the floors with all the little girls.

[A]

It's a hard knock life for us. I'm Willie Geist. I'm here.

[B]

That was my first. And I just. I know you've talked about this, too. What was happening backstage and the smell of the paint and all the. The collaborative feeling of it. I thought, well, boy, this is fun. So then I kept going and I did Fanny and Fiddler and all the. Fanny, Sound of Music.

[A]

Wait a minute. Fiddler? Who'd you play in Fiddler on the Roof?

[B]

I was a supporting player. I was sort of dancing in the back and doing the kicks and everything.

[A]

Fantastic.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And then you said. And Sound of Music.

[B]

I was Friedrich, one of the sons. So a long farewell of Wiedersehn. You try to hit that Note when you're 12 and the voice is going up and all that. What else?

[A]

But you sing nowadays too.

[B]

No, I don't. And don't try. I know. You did that with Conan.

[A]

You're not gonna do that with Con. I know I'm not drawing. Please sing.

[B]

So, yes, there was some theater, but it ended. Perhaps I should have stayed with it. But I. I enjoyed it. I really did enjoy it.

[A]

Really.

[B]

I thought it taught me something about presence at a young age.

[A]

Yes, you have stayed with it. It's a kind of a mix of everything that you are, maybe. Okay, well, interesting.

[B]

Do you. When you were growing up in West Homestead.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Have you been around Pittsburgh at all?

[B]

Pittsburgh? Yes. I don't think I've been to West Homestead.

[A]

You know, it's a little hamlet there. Yes.

[B]

In the suburbs. It seems to me, reading everything I have read about you, you knew so young that you wanted to be an actor in a place that wasn't known for cranking out actors. You were writing in the fog of the mirror. Let me be an actor, all that.

[A]

I was obsessed by it. But that was like 9th, 10th grade when I took these couple of Carnegie Mellon, six week summer courses in acting. And then I was, you know.

[B]

Where did that come from, that obsession?

[A]

Well, good question. It was around 10 and I heard recently somebody was talking and they said, oh, it happened to me around 10, around 10, maybe. What happened to you? It occurred to me, I sort of have a vague memory that I got a shocking realization. Hey, I've got a. There's life outside. Mommy and daddy, my mom and dad. I've gotta be on my own and I've got to figure it out and kind of do something like that. I think around 10 that happened. And it was that, you know, my dad had said, if you find something you love doing, that might be a vocational guide. Guide post. And then I was in this camp that I loved that was different than the kids that I went to school with. And I loved it and came alive there. And there was a drama course there and I jumped on stage and afterwards they said, well, how'd you like that? They were there, my parents were there, and I went, yeah, I like that, you know, but I kind of kept a secret to myself that that's. I wanted to do it.

[B]

Wow. Yeah, it's thrilling, right? It's a collaborative thing. People clap for you after you do it.

[A]

Yeah, clapping is okay, but yes, it was. I remember people laughing during this thing. I played this part. And yeah, it was thrilling. It was. I'll tell you, I was backstage. I remember being backstage in this chapel theater. It was a kind of nice, nice, nicey theater and they were winging it, you know, it was a proper theater and backstage and I had rehearsed. My mom had helped me rehearse this song and this whole part, I was kind of the lead in it, but I still, I was backstage. And I remember, I think even now thinking to myself, I'm not prepared to do this. There's nothing, I mean, I worked on a little bit. I don't know what I'm gonna do. How do I know what to do? And I had to actually leap on stage and you know, and I took that leap and I guess it was even spiritual and psychological and metaphorical out of nothing that allowed me to have this thing and experience and that still kind of means something to me now, this sort of leap out of nothing that for any moment of life is the way to go, you know, I still am kind of thrilled and romantic about it.

[B]

And you took a massive leap coming here to New York as a kid. You were still a kid, 17 years old. Yes. How did that conversation go with your parents? I'm leaving home, going to New York on my own and I'm 17.

[A]

Well, okay, actually, my dad was a doctor and I had applied to Carnegie Mellon University. Who said, hey, he was good in the summer sessions. He should apply to the regular school. I did a bad audition. I think I was not prepared. I don't think I could have done any better. I made bad choices in the material. I didn't know myself in any way. I was not right for the things I did. I'll tell you another time what they were anyway. They turned me down and I hadn't applied any place else. You might be going this through this in a few years, you know, with them moving out of the house and applying to them and seeing what they're going to do. In any case, I kind of scrambled around and my dad thought, oh yeah, go to college. Even though it's a. You're gonna major in this. Cause a college, that's what's, you know, an academic foundation is how I kind of made it out of poverty, you know, and it's a good way to start. And then I wound up at the neighborhood playhouse. He said, what? It's a two year thing and it's just acting and da da da. But in fact, my mom helped me get an apartment near not far from here so I could walk to the neighborhood playhouse. In fact, both my dad and mom. But my dad had toyed, flirted with the idea of being an actor themselves. And they were kind of enthralled with theater. And they would drive to New York, come back with the cast album of Fiddler on the Roof or whatever else, other things. And so were they thrilled. But they didn't wind up being actors. So I think they were a little titillated by the idea that I might be an actor. And my dad, I told you, he said, find something you love to do. I remember in ninth grade, in the summer when I came home kind of all jazzed up and talking about what I'd learned, whether it was. We were taking a mime course, believe it or not. And I was thrilled about a lot of. A lot of things. And he said to my mom in front of me, look at that. The kid is stimulated. And I remember the way he said it, I thought, oh, that's important to him. And, yes, I get. You know, it was important to me. It became important to me. So anyway. So anyway, he was okay, and they were okay with it and supported it. And then before long, I started to get jobs and, you know, make a living at it. And there you go.

[B]

That turns out to be a gift. Because if they could have said, no, you must go to college. You must do this the way we did it. But they allowed you to do the thing you wanted to do. And here you are.

[A]

You're absolutely right. And thank you to Shirley and Harold. And they did well. They did well, didn't they? Yeah, from the start. Now I'm seeing, raising kids myself now, placing in perspective what they did, you know, in another way. You must experience that. I see now that our, you know, we were guided early on in this sort of approach to honor and respect them as kind of seedling, but whole individuals and who have opinions and curiosities and interests. And you just have to kind of, you know, keep them safe and then, you know, expose them. You know, see if you can allow them to develop their interests.

[B]

So you're here, you start finding jobs. You were great as Freak, number one in Death Wish, your first movie.

[A]

Yes, yes.

[B]

Annie hall and the Big Chill. Which movie felt to you like, this is my break?

[A]

Well, that's the same question as before. You know, I'll tell you. In retrospect, I suppose we can say, well, it was good professionally. That was kind of a break. You know, whatever it was, you know, between the lines, I think Nashville. I was lucky to be in Nashville. Paul Mazarski movie. Next stop, Greenwich Village. 78. It takes us to Phil Kaufman, Invasion of the Body Snatchers. That was a good thing to do, but nothing felt like the day after. Or, hey, I got my break.

[B]

Or.

[A]

And I wasn't focused. I wasn't. That's not my sensibility. I wasn't going, I need a break. I need to break into, you know, get a break. I was continuing to learn. Happy that, gee, I hope nobody finds out that I'm not an actor yet, because Sandy Meisner, the other side of the coin of this nice idea he had is I'm not really an actor yet. I'm just practicing and trying to become an actor. So I was happy to. And I think it was lucky that I got little chances to kind of see. See what I could do. So it was like that. But as we look at it now, yes, all those things kind of led to each other. And then the big chill in the 83. And I did 10 speed and brown Shoe. Last time I saw Ben Vereen was in this room, believe it or not, playing here. Yeah, yeah, he came. Very wonderful guy. And you know, and then da, da, da, da, da. And then that's 83. Oh, the fly happens in 86.

[B]

87 is the fly. The one, though, where. Now I know who Jeff Goldblum is. For sure.

[A]

He's other people.

[B]

No. Other people.

[A]

Other people.

[B]

No.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He's a. I hope you do it before then.

[A]

He's a. I know what Jeff Goldblum is. He's a monster of sort. He's a half a heart, barely human. Yes.

[B]

But the success of that movie obviously impacted the way people saw you.

[A]

Yes, I think so. And, you know, professionally. But still, the main thing for me is that it was a creative landmark. And working with David Cronenberg, terrific. And on that material, gee, I had a juicy and growth producing time of it. And then.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yes. It was nice for me, wasn't it? Maybe it led to other things, but even now, I don't know that I could connect the dots and say that led absolutely to that. If it hadn't been for that, I would. I don't know. It's tough. Tough to measure. How about you? Must be the same thing. A little bit.

[B]

It's. Yeah. I mean, there's. I've rarely spoken to an actor or actress who has said, yes, I calculated my career this way, and then I'm gonna do this. And then it ended up the way exactly as I planned. You just sort of take good things as they come along. Try to do a good job, maybe somebody notices you and it leads. We're just hopping around on these lily pads, aren't we, trying to get across.

[A]

The pond and you hope to develop at the same time and. Yes, that's right. And that's kind of like life, no matter what you're doing. I suppose, right?

[B]

Yeah, no, I think so.

[A]

You know, and, and if you could, you wouldn't want to have it any other way. I think that's the talented viewpoint. If I could really write it before and order my life, my days, my career to be what I figure out, you wouldn't want.

[B]

No, that, that.

[A]

That's no good.

[B]

So after the fly, about seven years later, comes the first Jurassic park movie.

[A]

That's right. That's right.

[B]

Well, you've got. There's obviously some work in between there, but. Yeah, but this is a next step. I mean, I know you downplay how it changed your life and all those things, and that's fair. And you don't think about the commercial success of it.

[A]

But, but it was a big deal.

[B]

It was a big deal.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Jurassic Park. But, you know, there are a lot of good actors who have good careers who never get, if they care about it, are in things that are popular. Yeah. This. Popular and kind of notable like that. There are other ways, you know, Anyway. Yeah. So that doesn't. No, it's a great. It's a very lucky thing. And like I said. Well, we've already talked about it. Steven Spielberg and the people with whom you work and doing this stuff. But yes, people coming up to you, how the fans feel about it is nice. And that's a big deal. That's a sweet thing. And. Yeah, it's not. It's. It's. It's a nice thing for an actor to. For me to have. Had. Had gotten to do. That's true.

[B]

Are you aware of the endurance of your line? Life finds a way. You still hear it?

[A]

I like the way. Yes, yes. Yeah. You know, people. I see on, you know, people use that as, you know, the caption to a little, you know, flower coming out of two improbable cracks of stone, of concrete, or getting pregnant or, you know, life finds a way. It's a little bit of a good resonant phrase. So, yeah, that's nice that I got a chance to utter that.

[B]

Isn't it funny to think you delivered it the way you thought it would sound? Right. 30 years ago and here you're still seeing it on posts online and people saying it as they Go about their lives.

[A]

Yes. You know, it'll be forgotten soon enough. And all this, all our activities here will be fleeting and will turn to dust.

[B]

Now we're getting real deep eventually, well, painfully true.

[A]

We know that it's not a secret, but for now, fleetingly. It's sweet that, you know, it's not entirely disposable and that 30 years, as quick as that really is on the cosmic calendar. It's nice and interesting and crazy that, yeah, things pop up and, you know, you see things. That's cute.

[B]

People watch you from the outside and I get to see you up close in a way most people don't. And it feels like you move through life with joy, absent of cynicism. You just sort of appreciate all the things that come through your life. Is that how it really is? Is the Jeff Goldblum we believe to exist, the one who is.

[A]

Well, I'm not pretending in any way. You know, I try to be authentic even in my presentation here. So. Yes. So, yes. I mean, I have moments and all different parts of me that can, you.

[B]

Know.

[A]

Chew on some miserable bone. You know, that's fun to chew on for a second. But no, I'm still a humble student. And however it happened, I'm lucky. My life with these kids and Emily, it seems to be full of vitamin A and possibility. But I still, yes, like to. I'm a student of. And was listening today to some wisdom of one kind or another about how to be creative and live creatively and how to live optimally. Is that the word I want? You know, and that's a good question. And I'm still engaged in it and trying to do today better than I did yesterday with leaping into life and. And appreciating it, being grateful for it and seeing what I can give to it and what's here, you know, which will be gone soon enough to appreciate.

[B]

I think what's special about you as well is your curiosity and your presence. The fact that, you know, I did summer stock in fifth grade is kind of stunning, actually, but it's true.

[A]

Well, I didn't know that. I'm glad we had this talk, but.

[B]

You said I had acted out books and all the rest of the. But, I mean, you do seem to. Whoever you're with, you're in that moment or wherever you are, you are in that moment, in that space.

[A]

I aspire to that. And, you know, my life studies overlapped with my acting technology. Sandy Meisner was a good teacher, and like all other good teachers, too, he had a particularly Effective and interesting way of teaching how to be in the moment. That's what actors talk about. That's the cliche. But. But you. That's what you got to do because you're met, you're pretending. So like life, you have to infuse it with a little bit of acceptance of the. And receptiveness to spontaneity and then creating the illusion of spontaneity. So you got to be entirely available to hear the other poisonous line which you may know in part of yourself what it's going to be. But you've got to be particularly available and engaged in besides the line. The deeply interesting, mysterious, infinitely fascinating, that is the other human mechanism, that is that person over there. Likewise with your wife or somebody even with whom you think you've been together a long time and know. No, I think you gotta. I don't. There's something today and right now that I could find out about them that I don't know and experience them. Especially once I get a fixed idea of who they are or if you've been in a play or know the script too well. I got an idea who this is. No, no. You have to be open to really live optimally under imaginary circumstances or in life. You've got to be interested and available perhaps to some new, interesting, infinitely. Because you're part of the cosmic. The big bang is in you and I don't know everything about you, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And then you got to pretend, moment to moment. That's the acting part of it. But. Yeah, that's a little riff on me and these studies you know about.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. No, I agree with you. I think there's infinite knowledge out there for us to grab onto and know and learn about. So you can't ever just sit back and not pursue it or at least be curious about it. You're wasting your time.

[A]

Don't waste your time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If we were in that play Our Town, maybe you did it. You'd be right.

[B]

I didn't do Our Town, but that's a good one.

[A]

You would have been right, right for that. You're a handsome boy next door type. I would like to have seen you in Bye Bye Birdie, as a matter of fact. One boy. One special boy. One boy to joke with, to have coke with.

[B]

Yes. And all the ladies fainting as I sang. Yes, good.

[A]

But I like you as the only boy in the school scrubbing the floors. That's really good. But what were we saying? The fascinating thing that we were saying.

[B]

Just to have curiosity. There's infinite knowledge in the world.

[A]

Oh, yeah, our talent. She comes back after she's dead, as we all will be, and goes, look, I didn't appre. Look, look, there's the last time I saw. I didn't realize that was the last time I was going to see my grandfather. Why didn't I take it in more? Why didn't I. This is the last time I was going to taste peach pie. Isn't that good? There's something about here on Earth, you know, we live on a special that we could easily take for granted. We live as part of this movie, the Jurassic series. This Earth is pretty magnificent and the other creatures with whom we share it are forget dinosaurs are various and magnificent and deserve equal safety and liberty as we have and our wonderful coexistence. There's opportunity in that, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So, yeah, that's the way we gotta be.

[B]

Ah, I could talk about this all day with you. They're gonna throw us out of here eventually though. Before I ask you to play a tune on the piano, if you don't mind. The reason we've gotten to see so much more of you lately is because of your reality show. A successful two seasons was Jeff Goldblum. How much fun do you have with that?

[A]

I did have fun, you know, I did have fun with that. Disney. You could go see the 22 episodes the world According to Jeff Goldblum. Yeah, it was fun. Yeah, it was fun. I got a chance to talk to people like this and then amongst the wheat and the chaff, they nicely, you know, like, hopefully you will do too. They cut out the stupid parts and make me look as good as possible.

[B]

We all count on that, by the way. It takes a good producer.

[A]

You don't need it. You're ready to. You're ready for the live show. So, yeah, you know, so I had a good time. Yeah, yeah, they were very good. And we made nice little documents.

[B]

Keep doing it. Do another season of it or. We don't know yet.

[A]

We don't know yet. I don't know what we're going to do. There could be more, but I had a nice, you know, belly full of satisfying portion of it. 22 episodes. Can you imagine? We went all over it. You know, it keeps work, keeps you busy. I know you've got an extraordinary constitution, but, you know, it's an investment.

[B]

So how does music fit into your life then? You've played this room, by the way, many times.

[A]

Not many times. No. For one week.

[B]

For one week. Okay.

[A]

It was a special. It was a special week. It was fun and like acting.

[B]

Your love of jazz and your love of music goes all the way back to your childhood, doesn't it?

[A]

Yeah, around 10 or so. I forget. There were four of us kids, our parents gave us lessons. My mother played the clarinet, I played the piano. Was bad for the first couple of years. Didn't want to practice, you know, didn't know what discipline was like then, doing your homework, you know. And then he gave me a jazzy piece and I was like, I, I like this something about me that just kind of responded to syncopation and something like that. So I practiced and learned how to play that. And then around that time I had my heart set on acting as a career. But I got it into my head to. Because I didn't have summer jobs or anything like that to get the telephone, yellow Pages and look at cocktail lounges around Pittsburgh. I was 15 and go and call up cold call them and say, you know, I hear you're looking for a piano player. No, you've been misinformed. There's no piano here. Well, yes, we have a piano, but who's this? How old are you? Well, come on down maybe. Sure, play and see what you can do. I got a couple of jobs that way. My parents drove me. Anyway, I started to do that and in the same vein, I kind of kept a piano with me. I did Broadway, Broadway musical or two and was down in the pit playing with the musicians. I just loved it. Love musicians and put it in a movie or two. There's my character on the fly, plays for a second. And then about 30 years ago somebody said it was Peter Weller in fact, who said, come on, let's play out and about and you know, have a little band and a core band kind of. I've kept it up whenever I'm not working. Then we made a couple albums. Yes, and that. And you know, we wound up playing. So it's a part of my life and which is very fun, unexpected, non careerist oriented. But my daily life includes before the kids get up usually always I work out in the gym and do my little workload of piano which oftentimes feels like I'm playing better than I ever have played before. I feel like I'm getting better. I play with these good guys anyway, that changes my day, changes my life. Music is a tonic, as you know, and it's great. Thank, thank you to Charlie once again and Harold for giving me piano lessons.

[B]

All kinds of gifts from your parents.

[A]

That's correct.

[B]

Truly.

[A]

Yeah, that's correct.

[B]

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Welcome back now to the rest of my conversation with Jeff Goldblum as we move over to the piano at the famed Cafe Carlisle. As Jeff tickles the ivories as he's done before in that room with his jazz ensemble. What is it like, Jeff, to play a room like this at the Carlisle Sweet?

[A]

You know, recently we played the Disney Concert hall, believe it or not, 2000 seat thing, and we did that in Houston and Washington, which is very nice. But it's particularly delightful to play a nice room like this. And this particular room with this history and lovely, you know, ambiance and it's great. Have you been here a lot to see people?

[B]

Not a lot, but a few times I have. It's the intimacy. I mean, this is people can't see at home. But it is a tight room and that's great.

[A]

It's great. It's a little room and I like to talk to people and you know so it's nice. Yeah.

[B]

What do you get from playing music, Jeff, that you don't get from all the other interests in your life?

[A]

Well, well, you know, it's overlapping. It's all overlapping. Life itself is musical and at its. It's kind of musical, you know, and vibrational, you know, even and pulse driven and, you know, breathing in and out. And of course, it's like we talked about a conversation and a collaboration and a connection to yourself. And musically there are parts of yourself that can only be accessed through it, through music, I think. And then you reach other people uniquely through music. And like I say, a conversation. When you're playing with jazz guys, particularly for me, they do something unexpected and it makes you, if you're listening and connected to it, makes you do something in response to it, et cetera. And that's overlapping in acting, as we talked about. But what does it give me that I don't get otherwise? Well, I have no. I've told you, I'm kind of non careerist, as I like to say about acting. But I still, you know, want to put my best foot forward and it's still my livelihood, you know, this I kind of is just for fun. I really don't have to try too hard to just have fun without concern for. Just for its own sake. And that kind of bleeds over, actually has bled over into my life and other activities where I'm going, you know, there's no place to get. This is not going to get me anything. It really is just fun for its own sake or a chance to rejoice for its own sake. Anyway, music does that for me.

[B]

Sounds like it's a bit meditative for you as well.

[A]

We could call it meditative. Well, if we're tied in the, you know, what we're talking about allows all of life to be meditative in the way that I think you mean. Which is a chance to be present and deepen your understanding and engagement with whatever is around. But yeah, when I play music in the morning, it changes my. Yes, molecules. That's right. And it is a tonic. It is kind of, you know, a sweet, pleasant thing.

[B]

What will you sit down and play in the. In the morning? Let's say you've just got your personal time in front of the piano.

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I'll tell you what, I'm not going to bore you with that, but I run through. I run through. I don't need any music now for it. I run through my whole thing. I start with these days. I run through that song and then about 40 other songs, some of which I sing along with. And, and then I finally get to our second the bulk of what we did on this last album because I know that if, when we, if and when we have another date at the Pendry Hotel, as a matter of fact, you go out there, there's a Pendry Hotel. You're all invited to come there. When we go there, we'll play stuff essentially from the last album. Okay. So I kind of keep refreshing that and investigating it more deeply is the idea.

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How cool. Thank you, Jeff.

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You're a great, great pleasure. What a pleasure. My pleasure entirely. Thank you, everybody.

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My big thanks again to Jeff for a great conversation and just a great time. If you haven't seen it yet, you can catch Jurassic World Dominion in theaters now. And my thanks to all of you for listening again this week. If you want to hear more of these conversations with my guests and every week, be sure to click follow so you never miss an episode. And don't forget to tune in to Sunday TODAY every weekend on NBC. I'm Willie Geist. We will see you right back here next week on the Sunday Sit down podcast.

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