← Sunday Sports Club with Allison Kuch
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The following podcast is a Dear Media production.
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What's up, guys? Welcome back to Sunday Sports Club Podcast, a podcast all about sports told by a woman. And today we have on a special guest. We have on Daisy Foco Granson. It's crazy because the last time I saw you, you were just Daisy Foco.
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It's true. It's changed.
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I'm married now, so actually Daisy's husband and my husband played football for the Colts together, and that's how we first met. But I haven't seen you since literally four years.
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I think that's. Yeah.
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Wild. I know it's crazy because I feel like football, like it. It'll bring people together and they're like super close knit and then you might not see them again for like years.
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Yeah. They're across the country. All of a sudden you're like, I hope I see you soon.
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Yeah. But I feel like the longer you're in the NFL also, like, you get to know more and more people. And you're like, wait, I think I have a friend in every single team at this point.
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Me too. Yeah. And you're like, oh, yeah. You guys all know each other?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Ex. So her husband is Kyle Granson. And the remind me of the position he plays.
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He's a tight end and he also does a lot of special teams.
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I was gonna say he's kind of like all over the place.
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He is. He's like. He really does, like, whatever they ask. And he's like, all right, I'll walk in.
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And he plays for the Eagles now.
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He does.
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How long has he been playing for the Eagles?
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This is his first contract with the Eagles. So this is his second NFL contract.
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Okay, so then he's been in the NFL. How.
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This is year five.
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Year five.
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So when you and Isaac were on the Colts. That was our first year.
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Okay. This is reminding me. Yeah. And that was our year five.
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Yes. So look at the cemetery.
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Exactly. I'm like, look at. Look at us now. I'm like, now Isaac's retired. We have a full blown child. You guys are married. Okay. So I want to jump into everything. Literally. Daisy walked in the door. I was like, put on headphones because we have, like, so much to catch up on. So for anybody meeting you for the first time, how it. Except how do you explain, like, what you do for work? You. Your story, like, give us, like the overall gist. Like, who's Daisy?
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Okay. I would say so. What I usually tell people is I'm a content creator first, and then I'm Also an inventor. I do a lot of stuff in the stem space, which is, like, kind of a weird little second job. I don't really see that related. I'm kind of all over the place. And I would say, like, I just, like, I've just embraced this role, and I just kind of do whatever I feel like I'm doing that day, you know?
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I love that. And I feel like it also allows you to be super flexible, like, being able to, like, quote, unquote, follow your husband. I hate when people are like, oh, you follow your husband. I'm like, don't make me sound like.
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A piece of luggage.
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Like, we're making the decision to move. Yes. To follow somebody's job, and I get to do what I want to do. That's awesome. So you. Because when you were, like, explaining, like, the first time we ever met, I think it was at. Oh, my gosh. It was. Who's the quarterback? At the time.
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Oh, it was. Oh, my gosh, it was Maddie Wentz.
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Yes.
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She did that welcome party. Okay.
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So she threw a welcome party, and I remember, like, getting thrown in, and I was like, oh, God, I don't know anybody. That was our. My first time being at, like, a new team. So I was like, oh, I need to, like, learn everybody's name. I need to make, like, note cards and figure everything out. But you explained that you had gone to college for, like, engineering or you were like. I was like, wow, this girl's really fudgeing smart.
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You're the first wag I met, by the way, like, ever. And I was like, oh, my God, she's so tall and hot and blonde. This is exactly what I expected.
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You probably walked away, and you're like, yeah, there's not a lot of going on up there. Like this maybe. Oh, my gosh.
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No, I actually felt a lot more, like, secure when we met because I was like, oh, she's like a normal person. Like, thank God. Like, I wasn't sure what I was expecting. I mean, in retrospect, it seems kind of silly, because I was, like, I was so nervous. I think that's, like, the only time in my life I felt, like, socially insecure.
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Oh, yeah.
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And then I met you, and I was like, okay, there's normal people. It's gonna be fine. Like, she's nice.
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Funny you say that because, like, I was wildly insecure as well, because it's, like, a lot of pressure just going into a group of, like, women who might already be established in, like, friend groups and, like, their husbands already get along. And you're like, oh, like, I just moved here. Like, where do I fit? Welcome to Indiana. It's, like, it's interesting hearing your perspective, that you're like, oh, yeah, I walked into that situation was, like, probably, like, anxious. Yeah. I walked into that situation. I was like, I don't want to be here because I don't want to, like, have to, like, hold conversations and, like, somebody doesn't like me, and I just, like, have to sit there and just, like, pretend that they like me. I don't know. But honestly, like, that team, it worked out so well. Like, I feel like all of the wives actually kind of, like, mesh together. It was, like, very, like, organic. Nobody there were, like, never clicks or, like, nothing was ever forced.
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Yeah, it was actually really cohesive, and I feel like it gave me, like, a way more grounded NFL experience than maybe if I went to one of, like, the crazier teams that are, like, a little more infamous to start, you know, I feel like the Midwest is a little bit slower, a little bit more calm. Like, a little. Everyone just had kids and was kind of doing their own thing. Like, it was a lot more chill than I expected.
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It was super. I don't know if it's because it was like, we're in Indiana. It's the Midwest. Like, it was extremely chill.
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Yeah.
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And that is something that I do really, like, value about that team. And, like, especially, like, when we were there, it just felt, like, chill and, like, nothing felt pressured and, like, there weren't clicks. And now on the Eagles, like, how do you compare those experiences? Because I feel like the Eagles are a little bit more, like, not flashy, but their fan bases are way different.
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They're a little flashy. It's definitely, like, a vastly different experience. The thing I would say is, like, a point of commonality is it's also not clicky, which is good, because I know we've all heard the horror stories of, like, some teams being, like, super clicky.
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You're not allowed to be.
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You're.
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What is it? You're not allowed to be in our friend group unless your husband gets paid, like, over a certain amount.
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Yeah. So, like, I wasn't sure. I, like, I remember reaching out at the very beginning to Nikki Mulatto and being like, hey. Or. No, it was Brooke Dickerson. I was like, hey, is there a group chat? Could you add me? And she was like, yeah, I'll add you right now. And I was like, oh, thank God. Because, like, some of them with the group chat, it's like, we're gonna wait till after fall camp, see if you stay here.
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You're like, please. Oh, my God. It crazy because probably every NFL team has a wives or girlfriend's group chat.
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Yeah.
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Just to, like, coordinate. Like, oh, here's our holiday party. Here's our. Like, this is the open practices. Or like, what have you, not child care resources.
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Like, here's where I get my nails done.
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I will never forget getting kicked out of one of those group chats. When Isaac, he got cut and put on practice squad. I was like, he's still on the team. Like, I'm just like, they kicked you.
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Out for when he got put on practice. That's so mean.
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No, it was heck. I was like, honestly, I. I don't want to be here anyway. It's fine.
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So rude. Actually.
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I will never forget that. But honestly, looking back, I'm like, it was character development.
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Yeah, it is. I mean, you're like, okay, I can handle this sort of pushback, I guess. I mean, like, the older I get, the more I feel like any form of rejection is, like, an opportunity to end up being more grounded in yourself.
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Yes.
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You know, and so I guess that's one of those opportunities. But it still sucks.
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I like that way of you looking at it. It's definitely me being like, okay, I'm going to cry about this. And then I'm going to, like, cried.
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It's not just you. I would have also cried.
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Well, just like, you then you have to, like, show up at the games. You're like, we're. I'm still doing the things. Yeah.
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Like, I still have to see you guys every week. Are you going to not want to hang out with me now? Like, what does this mean?
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No, but when he got put back on the 53 man roster, they didn't put me back. They didn't.
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That's so rude, that. Honestly, that's really rude.
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Honestly, it's fine. I. I think every team, as long as I have, like, one person that I can talk to or hang out with or, like, just get coffee, like something very normal, I'm like, okay. Like, that's all I need.
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Yeah.
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I feel like I'm not, like, a needy person where I'm like, I need to be at every function. Like, I'm gonna have FOMO if I'm not. It's like, I just want to feel included sometimes.
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Yeah. I want the opportunity. Right. To go or to not go. And, like, I think also with our jobs, if you don't want to go to certain things It's a little easier to be like, sorry, I can't go.
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Yeah, you're like something else. I'm busy.
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And then everyone' like, okay, that's fine. Like, yeah. Cause it's a forward facing job. So it's a little easier if you're. If you have like a more internal job where you're like a nurse or something. People are also like, oh, yeah. I mean, I guess you have to do a 24 hour shift. Like, that's fair. But we have a little bit more of the benefit of like. And then you saw me at work.
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Yes. And then you. You know exactly what I did yesterday because I posted it all over social media. Like, what a. What a joy. Okay, so you mentioned that you're like a little bit of an inventor. So I want to take a step back because you went through major spinal surgery and you were on bed rest for entire year.
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Yeah, I had to relearn how to walk. I got down to like 97 pounds. And, like, I'm also tall. We're both tall girls. Like, the surgery made me four inches taller overnight. So I was like, wait, really? Yes, I was. That was one of the signs that I needed it. And everyone thought I was, like, crazy because I was like, I swear to God, I'm shrinking. And everyone was like, you're not shrinking. I was like, I swear that I am. And I was. Because my spine was, like descending, so I actually was shrinking. So when they straighten it out, it's like pasta. Like pre cooked versus post cooked.
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I was like, wild.
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I know. It was very disconcerting. I realized, because I had always been kind of short. Like, oh, my God, the world is really not built for tall people. These counters are so low. Railings are freaking me out now. Like, I'm gonna fall over everything. Like, what the hell?
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You're like, wow, I have a whole new I. I bet you there's short people out here listening that are like, maybe I should make sure that I don't need special surgery.
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Honestly. Check, get checked.
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Right. But how. How was bed rest for an entire year?
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It was honestly terrible because, like, I found out that I needed the surgery when I was 19 because I went to Six Flags, and you're not supposed to do that if you have severe sculliosis.
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They have something wrong with you.
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Yeah, there's actually signs everywhere. Because every time I tell the story, people are like, you should sue Six Flags. You get a ton of money. I would get nothing. Because they literally have signs all over the park.
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No, no, it Wasn't you.
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It was me. I just didn't know I was breaking the rules. There's signs that are like, if you're pregnant, have spinal issues or heart issues, don't get on the ride. And I didn't know. And I was dating this total douche at the time. It, like, really sucked. And we were on, like, what I believed to be a double date, actually. He was trying to get the other girl's attention, so I was, like, not really understanding why I was there.
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Like, I wasn't picking up on the.
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No, I missed that whole factor until, like, they went off and did their own thing, and he was pissy the whole time. And we went on a roller coaster, and I fainted on the roller coaster. And normally I love roller coasters. And, like, I don't have any sort of reaction to them. So I was like, I don't think I should be going on more roller coasters, honestly, like, that was kind of weird. And he was already feeling really rejected, so he was like, no, I'm not going to be going on this park, like, all these rides alone. Like, you have to keep coming with me. So I passed out 32 times.
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Oh, my God.
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Yeah. Because I was 19. He was way older than me, and.
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So it was like, you're like, I feel, like, pressure.
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I felt really pressured. And so by the end, you know, we. We got back together with the other couple, who was, like, my best friend also, and she was like, oh, my God, we need to go home. Like, you're not okay. And I was like, thank you. Like, let's go.
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You're like, wow, I'm not being gaslit. Oh, yeah. This is not normal.
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Yeah. No, it's not normal. And so she, like, swept in, took care of me, was like, we're leaving right now. And then I was, like. Had to lie in the dark for, like, 10 days because my head hurts so bad, and I could, like, barely see anything. And my parents were really worried. We had this guy who lived behind us who my dad had done a lot of patent work for, who's an ear doctor, but he actually had done a lot of work in the neurology space. He's, like, actually super interesting Dr. Slater, if anyone wants to look him up. But he went and saw me because, like, all the other doctors weren't really sure what was wrong. They were just like, oh, probably like, a severe migraine. And my mom was like, no. Yeah. And he was like, oh, I think you have benign intracranial hypertension, which is when you have A bunch of spinal fluid pressing against your brain. And so he had it, like, drained. Like, you take medication and it drains it. And then he was like, okay, you should be feeling a little bit better now. But I don't know why that happened. I just know that's what was obviously going on. And my mom took me to a bunch of doctors. No one could figure it out. And then eventually she just was like, okay, I'm sending you to Massage Envy. Shout out to Massage Envy. But she was like, I'm sending you to Massage Envy to get you some sort of relief. And the lady who did my massage was a retired nurse. And she was like, hey, we're not supposed to comment on people's bodies, but your back is like, so messed up. Like, you need to get an X ray like today. And I was like, really? And she was like, yeah, girl. Like, really?
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Yeah.
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And so I was like, okay. So I went and got an X ray. I had a 47 degree curve. It was crazy.
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That's actually what it was.
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Severe. Yeah, it was really severe. So I probably already had like, some scoliosis before because I'd grown like a foot that year. Like, I had like an extreme growth spurt. So, like, my spine was kind of like jelly, I guess. And so then the roller coaster just, like, made it way worse. Like, ripped it even more out of alignment. And then they were like, you have to have emergency surgery, which for spinal surgery means like a year from now, but you have to do PT and all this stuff. So I was at acting school at the time, so I had to wake up really early to do, like, dance and vocal lessons and stuff. So I had to wake up at 5am, do physical therapy, then go in and do acting all day. And I was on a heart monitor because my spine was like crushing my heart. My left lung had, like, diminished capacity. It was beeping all the time because I couldn't get, like, an expensive one. So it was, like, really embarrassing. And then I had the surgery. The surgery itself was a success, but then I had a ton of complications. Your recovery is usually not supposed to be a year, but I had so many problems after the fact. Like, my organs got impacted and like, I. They almost exploded, which is crazy. And they were giving me way too much morphine because, like, I over metabolize drugs. And I went, check that in advance. So then I stopped taking the morphine because they put me in charge of my own medicine because I was, like, paranoid and convinced someone was like, poisoning me because I felt like, sick all the Time. And so then after that, I had like, severe withdrawals, which caused a failure to thrive. So I lost like 30 pounds in 10 days and totally lost my ability to walk just because my legs didn't have enough muscle after that to, like, hold me.
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Oh, wow.
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Yeah. Yeah, it was crazy. Like, you could see I've never been a flat chested person. Not to be too visceral with it, but, like, you could see my ribs through, like, my areolas. Wow. Which is how thin I got. It was really disgusting. And so I had to relearn how to walk with my dad. Like, it was too hot for me to go outside because I was so down.
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I got to teach you how to walk twice. Yeah, exactly.
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No, he would always say that. It was actually really cute. And so we would walk at night time, like on this, like, flat part of our neighborhood. And then we decided I was finally back to normal walking when I could walk long enough that my dog would get tired.
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Okay.
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He was like, okay, like, you're ready. And then I went off to college.
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And J's like, why am I the metric here?
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But I went back to college and I decided after, like, having such like a traumatic experience that I wanted to be near my brother because he was gone for that whole time. And like, he, like, like, we've always been very close. We're like close in age. So I switched from acting because I would have had to start the program over because it was a conservatory program and it was really competitive and they'd cut two students every year. So.
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Oh, my God.
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Yeah, it was really intense.
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Instead of them cutting again, I don't deal well with like, yeah, like someone telling me, no, like, you can't be here.
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So it was a really intense program. And instead of them cutting someone else when I had to leave, you know, like, I was the one who, like, got cut effectively. So. Because I had to, like, pull out of school. So I was like, I'm not going to start over college from like freshman year over this. So I just switched to multidisciplinary studies with an emphasis on engineering and design.
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Which is like, so different than so different what you were originally trying.
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Because I spent my whole bed rest being like, my new spine sucks. Like, someone should design this better. This sucks so hard.
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Right.
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And so I was like, that's going to be like, my plan. And that's how I got interested in, like, biomedical tech, which is crazy.
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And then talk to me about the two patents you filed.
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So my first patent is very 19 year old style Patent. Because it's a weed patent.
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Okay.
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So it's like a tube of lipstick where. And I used, like, I smoked a lot at that time or, like, took edibles as, like, a pain management.
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Well, that's like, the reason, like, when I think it should be legalized, like, that's the reason I think of, because I'm like, morphine or, like, narco compared to, like, a plant.
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It really, like, did so much damage to my body to this day. Like, my parents, like, were like, begging the doctors, like, can we just put her on, like, a marijuana drip and, like, put THC directly into her stomach? And they were like, it's not allowed.
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So, I mean, your dad's like, I'll be right back.
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Yeah, my dad was like, brb. So I made a tube of lipstick where, like, the wax of the lipstick is thc. Or it can be like, non weed stuff. Like you put like, melatonin in there if you want. And then it has like, a bottom compartment that, like, you press it and it pops out and it turns into, like, the piece where you can put the wax into it. And it's, like, childproof. It's like, fully sealable. It's odorless. And you can, like, store flour in there if you want to.
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That's.
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It's like a Swiss army knife for weed, basically. Kind of love that incognito mode.
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Crazy.
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We have a chapstick version for men if they don't. If they feel, like, emasculated by the lipstick for some reason, like, relax.
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But, like, wait, Isaac had lipstick in his car the other day. No. And then what's the second one?
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The second one is actually Kylan inspired. Because during it was my Covid project, I was like, I want to do something that could.
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Everybody has a Covid project. Yeah.
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And that was fun.
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Well, like, some people make banana bread or sourdough and then you made a pat.
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Yeah, exactly. So I came up with. The easiest way to describe it is sort of like a Chinese finger trap, but it has barbs on the inside, and it's made of the same material as dissolvable stitches. So your ACL whenever it tears. The reason why that's so, like, devastating for athletes is because it's a type of connective tissue that doesn't organically reattach. Like most other connective tissue in your body can sort of like, re. Grow back together, but your ACL can't. So that's why they have to do surgery.
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Yeah.
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So mine is a stabilizing device, so it goes over the two ends that are, like, ripped apart from each other, and it tricks them into thinking that they're holding onto each other and in the center. This is actually cool research out of, like, Harvard. You put a little piece of cotton and you inject the patient's blood into it, and it tricks the tendrils of the torn ligament to thinking they're already connected tenuously. So it grows back together, and then that way you can do PT earlier. You can inject human growth hormones through the barbs, and it's supposed to basically expedite the healing process a lot.
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This is wild.
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Thank you.
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My God. I'm like, wow, I feel like an idiot.
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No, you're not an idiot.
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So, like, with that, I feel like you have to have, like, a certain brain to, like, like, be an inventor. You're like, oh, I, like, want to find a solution, but, like, I want to, like, get to the bottom of things. So, like, now do you find yourself, like, still wanting to, like, create?
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Yes. I actually have, like, six more patents pending right now. So once they are a little bit further along.
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Jesus Christ. Like, busy.
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Yeah, I've been grinding this.
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When people are like, oh, like, you. What do you do for work? Your husband's in the NFL. You're, like, a lot of.
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Stop.
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Like, I don't know. I just, like, look at my hair all day.
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Pilates.
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Wait, that's so crazy. So what is your next invention going to be? Can you, like.
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I can't get into details of it, but it is, like, it's more biomedical stuff, and it's basically a way for people to be able. You. I'll put it this way. You know how a lot of people don't go to the doctor because they're not convinced something's wrong with them and it's really expensive.
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Yes.
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So it's a way for you, without going to the doctor, to find out if it's worth the trip, basically, before you have to spend a bunch of money.
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Wow.
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So that's, like, the. Before. I can't get into details yet, but that's essentially what it is. It's. It's supposed to be a public good so that people don't have to waste money to find out that they're basically fine or just have, like, a little headache or whatever so they can feel confident in spending the money at the doctor's.
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Literally, me, as a hypochondriac, I'm like, what do you mean? I go to, like, the doctor, like, every day for, like, the smallest little thing you Guys, new year, new me. No, not really. But when it comes to fashion, I feel like last year I kind of perfected my, like, capsule wardrobe, closet, but now I feel like I'm really lacking in, like, accessories and just things are going to help elevate my outfit. And that's where Vivre comes in. If you guys don't know about Vivrel yet, it's a members only club where you can borrow designer bags, jewelry, watches, even diamonds. So think like a rotating closet that you don't have to commit to. And the best part, and kind of like what hooked me, is that there's no return dates. So you can keep a piece as long as you want, or you can swap it monthly if you're ready for something new. And if you fall in love with something, you can also buy it less than anywhere else. So their classic tier is 139 per month, and it's by far the most popular, honestly. Makes sense because, like, the value you get is kind of wild. And they're constantly refreshing inventory, like, actually constantly. So they're adding millions of dollars of new pieces every week. So it feels like you're walking into a new designer boutique Fil with like, Prada, Fendi, Saint Laurent, Dior, all the brands that I'm constantly drooling over. So, like, you literally just pick what you want and it shows up. Feels very surreal. And they just gave me their holiday offer code, which expires at the end of the month. So if you've been curious or waiting for a sign, you can use my referral code SSC to get your first month of membership completely free. So, like, now is the time to join. Go to www.vivrel.com and apply for a membership today using code SSC for your first month of membership, free. The code will also allow you to skip the Vivrel wait list. That's V I V R e l l e.com and use code SSC for your first month free. Aside from being an inventor, you're also a content creator. And I want to talk more about that because how did you like it? Can. That part makes more sense to me. Not that the inventor part doesn't make sense, but, like, that makes more sense to me that, like, oh, you wanted to be, like, an actor and, like, you went to school for that. So you have, like, a very creative side to your brain and you have this very, like, analytical, like, mathematical side to your brain. So content creating was that, like, to, like, you can kind of create whatever you want.
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A
Yeah, you can create Whatever you want. And I got. Honestly, I got, like, peer pressured into it by my same friend who I was at with Six Flags, who was like, we got to go.
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B
She's like, this girl's nuts.
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A
Girl's nuts. She was like, you need to get on this thing called TikTok. It was like, early TikTok. And I was like, I don't know that I want to go on your weird little music app, diva.
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B
Okay. Yeah. Because when I first got, like, introduced to TikTok, it was like. Like the day it was musically kind.
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A
Of still, you know? And so I was like, I don't really see myself doing that. And she was like, no, you can do other stuff on there. Like, you're so good at telling stories. You should just, like, go tell stories. Like, crazy stuff so it's happening to you. And she was bugging me for, like, months, and she's like, really? Like a dog with a bone about stuff. And so I was like, all right. Like, what do I have to do to get you off my back? Basically?
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B
Yeah.
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A
And she was like, if you post every day for a week, I'll leave you alone. And I was like, okay, whatever. Fine. So I did it. And then on day six, I, like, posted, went to sleep, and then woke up with, like, 1.6 million views. And I was like, she was right. Like, I got to keep doing this, I guess.
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B
You're like, okay, I'll give you a cut. Okay.
- [23:08]
A
She was my manager originally.
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B
Wow.
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A
Actually, because I was like, you deserve something, you know?
- [23:12]
B
Yeah, a little.
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A
Get back here. And then I just. I was working at Audi Dallas, like, selling cars and doing Postmates on the side. So, like, all my early TikToks, I'm like, like, in the Audi Dallas bathroom on my lunch break, like, filming or like, in the rental cars, because people were like, what do you do? You're in a different car every day. And it was because I was like, all the rental cars, like, filming in my off time or whatever.
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B
Oh, my God. That the lore people were like, she, like, really rich. Yeah.
- [23:37]
A
They were like, what is this?
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B
Why does she have, like, a new car? What is the content that is your favorite to share?
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A
I think that's such a good question. I think my favorite content to share is, like, about anything super crazy or weird. Just because I love seeing, like, the reaction.
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B
I feel like you have, like, the conspiracy stories are like, the, like, not even, like, I don't know. Like, it's the stories that have, like, a mystery to them that I'm like, oh, this is interesting. Like, of course Daisy's supposed to.
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A
We're like, oh, my God, that's crazy that that happened. Like, I had no idea that was, like, going on. Like, I love the niche. Weird stuff. And then I've been sharing more of my personal life this year, like, since we, like, got engaged.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Just because I knew, like, we'd been together, like, the whole time I'd had a platform, and, like, he would pop in and out every once in a while. Like, to this day, people are still like, I had no idea you're married to an NFL player. Because it, like, wasn't a central part of my content for a long time.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Just because, like, when we were dating, he was still in college, so I wasn't gonna be like, here he is. Like, when he would win a game.
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B
I'd be like, he won a game.
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A
And people would be like, good for you. And that's pretty much it. But, like, I really blew up on TikTok, like, six months before the draft. And so it was weird because we went from, like, this, like, super normal, like, neither of us came from, like, really wealthy families kind of situation to, like, like, within, like, one semester of our life. Like, it vastly changed for I, like.
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B
Semester of our life. That's nice.
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A
Thank you. But, like, it changed so much, and it was like this giant, crazy experience that was, like, really. I don't know. I feel like I had, like, imposter syndrome from that, for sure.
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B
Well, because it's. It's not something that's, like, gradual. Like, if you become a doctor, it's like, well, you've been working your ass off for, like, years to get to that place. Whereas in, I feel like, the NFL or even content creation, it's kind of like overnight. And then you're like, how? I, like, don't feel like this is real or, like, I don't feel like I deserve to be here.
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A
Yeah, I really. That was, like, my strongest feeling about it. Because, like, for Kylan, of course, like, he's been playing football since he was 3. From his perspective, I'm sure it does feel more gradual, even though it's like.
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B
You have the one moment, the lump sum money, overnight.
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A
Overnight. Like, I'll never forget that. Like, the. When he got that lump sum after getting drafted, we were driving from Dallas to Austin or from Austin to Dallas, and we went into Burger King, which, like, I hate Burger King, and Kylan loves Burger King. And he was like, you gotta get Burger King with me. This is our last broke meal, and I was like, you're right. And so I got like the Impossible Burger and it made me so sick.
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B
Oh, my God. But it's so. It is so crazy because the NFL draft is very much like you get a lump sum. Like, you have a signing bonus and then you have like your salary, but you get your signing bonus when you sign.
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A
Yeah. So it's just like you go from having like maybe $20 in your bank account because, like, he was just fully like a college student. I was the only one who was like, working because I dropped out at that time. And so, like, it.
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B
Yeah.
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A
It went from being like, okay, let's figure out how to make this 200 work for the whole month to like, oh my God, you know?
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B
Yeah. And it. The weird thing to me about the NFL draft with this just. This is so off topic, but it's like, these guys are actually broke. Unless they have like a wealthy family financially paying for everything. They're kind of like in this, like six month phase after they, like, they leave their college, they're training for the NFL, waiting to get drafted. It's like you're not really getting anything. Whereas. And I feel like during, as a college athlete, they were getting like, per diem or like trying to live off of like, oh, $1,000 in a month kind of thing.
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A
Yeah, that was how we like, like, did most of our income. Because, like, I wasn't making a ton at like, the car dealership and that's why I was doing postmates on the side. So really Kylan's like, like per diem and stuff was like, what was paying most? Well, then like our groceries and stuff.
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B
I. And I know some NFL agent or like football agents will sometimes like, give them like a. Not like a salary, but like an allowance and be like, oh, like, you can pay me back after you get drafted. Like, but here's some money. I remember Isaac. He, like, didn't own a laptop and he was like, waiting for the NFL draft and he's like, I can't afford a laptop. And he asked his agent to, like, get him a laptop. And I think it's. It's so crazy because looking back now, I'm like, wow, like, we were in such a different place and then overnight it changes.
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A
Yeah, it does. Like, I remember that last month before the draft, like, we. I had come to Austin to be there while he was training. So I quit working in Dallas. And so I was just doing Postmates and like, I didn't make enough for rent for our apartment we still had in Dallas. And I had to be like, dad, like, can you give me a few hundred dollars? I will pay you back in, like, three weeks.
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B
I promise I'll have the money.
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A
Yeah, I will. I promise. And he was like, okay, yeah, like, I believe that. I believe Kylan's gonna get drafted. Like, I'm happy to help you guys, like, so that you don't have to worry about this. And he can just focus. Like, this is such, like, an important time in his life. Like, I'll do it. And, like, I am still so grateful for that because, like. Like I said, like, my parents aren't super rich either, so, like, he really went off on a limb for us there, and I appreciated it.
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B
Like, no, no, no.
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A
Thank you.
- [28:27]
B
Thank you. So how did you and Kylan meet?
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A
We met on Tinder, actually. And we were long distance, like, the first year of our relationship, because he super liked me. I was showing my neighbor in Austin, like, visiting my parents, like, how to use Tinder, because he was like, I've never used the apps before. So I was like, okay, I'll redownload it and show you. Because I was like, deeply, like, I want to be single at that time in my life, which is.
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B
I feel like every person in that life stage ends up finding their husband.
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A
Exactly. I swear. And then I was swiping through, and I was like, this guy apparently lives three miles from me in Austin. Like, I know, like, everyone in Austin. I feel like I would have known that this person exists. Like, no way. And so I super liked him back in rare. A rare move for me. Like, I've never super liked anyone. Like, I might as well.
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B
I have nothing to lose.
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A
I'll do it.
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B
Like, he's like, here's an experiment. This is how you super like someone.
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A
Yeah, exactly. I was like, just like that.
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B
Yeah, right?
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A
And then we were supposed to go on a date that Saturday, and then I had to literally, like, cancel our date last second, because my brother had signed up for an internship up working in New York to clean oysters in the Hudson. She was like, an environmental scientist back then. And I was like, hey, sorry.
- [29:32]
B
That is the most random I've ever heard.
- [29:34]
A
Kylan thought I was lying because I was like, sorry, I can't come. I have to drive with my brother to New York to save the oysters. But I'll be back for a wedding in a month if you want to go on a date in a month. And he was like, you could have just said you don't want to go. And I was like, no, no, I Swear, like, I'm coming back.
- [29:47]
B
I'm gonna send you a picture of a motherfucker.
- [29:50]
A
He's, like, wearing water waiters, I promise.
- [29:52]
B
Oh, my God, that's hilarious. And then. So then you guys date. So that was in high school.
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A
That was in college.
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B
Okay, College, Yeah.
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A
That was, like, sophomore year.
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B
And then you guys dated throughout college, and then he gets drafted to the NFL, and then from there. Did you immediately move. You immediately moved to Indiana?
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A
I moved after training camp, which I didn't understand the way training camp even works. Like, so when training camp was over, he's like, like, babe, I made the team. And I was like, yeah, I know.
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B
I was at the draft again, like, yeah, that's kind of.
- [30:24]
A
Yeah, I was there. I remember.
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B
No, Yeah, I put up an Instagram thing.
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A
And he was like, no. Like, you don't. You're not officially on the roster until after. And I was like, oh, I'm so glad you didn't tell me that explicitly, because I just would have been worried this whole month, and now I totally skipped.
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B
You just, like, lived in, like, ignorance, like, bliss. He's training. Yeah. Like, no, no, no, he's on the team.
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A
He's on the team.
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B
You're like, there's a roster out yet. You're like, yeah, yeah, he's on it.
- [30:52]
A
No, exactly. And so I came right after that. And then the next fall camp, I was like, oh, this is what he was talking about. This is crazy.
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B
Like, this is. Because. What round did he get drafted in?
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A
The fourth.
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B
Okay. Which I feel like fourth is pretty. Like, pretty.
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A
So, like, he was like, if he wasn't going to stay there, he was going to get picked up by someone for sure.
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B
Right.
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A
You know, so it wasn't that anxiety inducing, but I didn't know that. And so, like, I think my dad is, like, a big football guy. Was the only one who was, like, checking in every day to be like, okay. It said, he's doing really good. And I was like, of course he is. You're like, he's really good.
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B
Yeah, that's why he's on the team, dad. That's how he got into the ML. Your dad is like, okay.
- [31:29]
A
He's like, all right. Like, my high school didn't even have, like, a football team. So, like, my first football game was, like, one of Kylan's college games. And, yeah, I didn't even understand the difference between offense and defense. And I was like, like, remember sitting next to his mom one time when defense was out and was like, why don't they just put Kylan in.
- [31:43]
B
This is ridiculous. His mom's like.
- [31:46]
A
And she was like, it's defense right now, honey. And I was like, yeah, okay. And, like, now I know football, like, super well and I'm really into it, but, like, it definitely. I had, like, a steep learning curve.
- [31:58]
B
There is a learning curve for sure. And I think you don't actually, like, give a shit until, like, there's a reason to give a shit.
- [32:06]
A
It's a lot easier to be invested when you, like, know everyone on the field. Because, like, then what now when the defense is out, I'm like, oh, there's like, Brooke and Nikki's husbands.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You know, like, I know them. They're nice. Like, you know, it, like, helps you stay, like, focused. For sure.
- [32:19]
B
I feel like watching a football game now. I'm like, I need to see one person on the field that, like, I know or, like, I know their story or, like, something about them. Because I'm like, I like to watch one player and then, like, the rest of the. I don't know, you, like, you, like, watch a reality show because you're like, want to see, like, one storyline, like, unfold, but you're like, obviously, I'm gonna watch the other.
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A
Yeah, exactly. You're like, I gotta see what everyone else is doing while I'm here. Of course. But, yeah, it makes it a lot easier. And, like, a lot of, like, my artsy friends are, like, now like, football fanatics because they've gotten into it from watching Kylan and stuff. So, like, my whole friend group has, like, changed to be into sports.
- [32:53]
B
That's incredible. Okay, so you're. He plays for the Eagles now. When did you guys get engaged?
- [32:59]
A
We got engaged on July 21, 2024. And so we had, like, about a year long engagement. We got married on July. Oh, my God. I almost said July 11th because that's my brother's birthday. We got married on July 12th. Like, our rehearsal dinner was on July 11th. And so it was like, about exactly, like a little bit less than a year later.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And, like, the wedding planning process was honestly, like, like, very chill for us.
- [33:25]
B
Like, you guys had a unique wedding and, like, I admire it so much. So for the people who don't follow you, tell them a little bit about your wedding.
- [33:34]
A
So we got married under Dinosaurs in the Field Museum in Chicago. And it was like, I don't know, like, I was never someone who had, like, a Pinterest board growing up for, like, what I wanted my wedding to be, like. And, like, we were Dating for such a long time that, like, you would think I would have had some sort of plan, but I really didn't. So before we got engaged, I was like, man, I don't even know what, like, the vibe of my wedding's gonna be. And then the second we got engaged, I was like, actually, it turns out I have a very clear and super distinct vision, and I feel strongly that we have to get married under dinosaurs. And Kylan loves dinosaurs. So he was like, oh, yeah, we should totally do that.
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B
And, like, Like a dude just like, yeah, dinosaurs.
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A
Yeah. We, like, integrated all of these really, like, unique approaches, and while we were planning it, we didn't really tell anybody details about it, which I think was quietly frustrating everybody. Low key, but it was just because it sounds on paper, truly insane and really gaudy. And then the execution was actually really strong.
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B
It was like vogue, like, chic.
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A
It was chic. Yeah. And so, like, I'm not.
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B
Like, people are probably thinking in their head, like, you got married under dinosaurs. Like, was your dress camo or, like, what it was?
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A
Giant flowers actually would also, like, when you describe it on paper, like, please go to my Instagram and look at it. But when you describe it on paper, it's like, yeah, I got married covered in flowers. My husband wore a cape. We were under dinosaurs. Our aisle was designed to be a mirror that looked like a river. And our bridesmaids and groomsmen were in rainbow colors behind us in an arc. Like, that sounds terrible when you describe it to people. And all the guests wore all black. All of that sounds deranged and really bad. And so I was like, I'm not telling anybody. Like, they're just gonna have to see it when they get there, and then they'll be like, amazing. And the only clue I gave was like, our invites came with, like, an excavation kit made of ground up graham crackers and then chocolate dinosaurs in with, like, a brush. So you would brush it in. So everyone got that and they were like, huh? Like, I wonder, like, what the hell the vibe of this thing is gonna be. What the. What is this? And then we got there and we're like, oh. Oh, my God, dinosaurs.
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B
So crazy. How did you guys decide where to get married? Because you guys are from two different places.
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A
Yeah. So we decided Chicago, because I love Chicago. I think it's one of the great American cities. We were still in Indianapolis, and, like, I just didn't really see myself in any of the indie venues because, like, they have some beautiful venues there. So I don't Want to catch any heat from the Midwest about that. But, like, they have, like, a lot of really cool rural ones and like a barn, which is very popular in Austin, too. So I didn't want to do that because I feel like I've been to a million barn weddings and then they have some beautiful cathedrals, but neither of us are religious, so that didn't feel right either. Right. I just wanted a venue that reflected us as a couple. And I feel like we have a really unique. Unique.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Which I love. Oh, my gosh. I think when I think about, like, the dinosaurs, I'm like, yeah. On paper it sounds like, wait, what's the vision? And then you see the picture, you're like, oh, it's like chic. Like unique. Like, it was vibey.
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A
Yeah. It was supposed to be like a little editorial. Like a little.
- [36:30]
B
Yes, editorial. That's the word I'm kind of looking for.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Well, I have to take a second because you mentioned that your guests were in all black. How do people feel about being told what they can and can can't wear as a wedding guest?
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A
Because they usually hate it.
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B
Color schemes. Like, I feel like I tried to, like, give a color scheme because I'm like, oh, these are.
- [36:51]
A
My wedding was really beautiful and cohesive.
- [36:53]
B
Except for the few people that wore, like, bright ass colors. I'm like, okay, yeah, you just have to, like, match the vision. Just because I'm like, these are my wedding photos.
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A
Like, exactly.
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B
If your bright orange dress is next. Next to all of my beiges and greens and blues, like, you're gonna look like the main character. But I wanna know, like, did you have any guests?
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A
Be like, no, No, I didn't, luckily. And I was worried. Like, I gave on our wedding website, I gave like, a Pinterest kind of guide with pictures. That's smart to be like, this is what I want you to look like. Like, I don't want you to just wear black with white under it. I want you to be in, like, monochromatic black.
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B
Yes.
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A
And I thought people were gonna push back on that and be like, this is like a funeral vibe. But actually everyone was down with it. Cause everyone rip to the dinosaurs.
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B
No, exactly.
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A
It kind of is. Yeah. But everyone was cool with it. Cause they're like, oh, I have a great black dress. Or like. And all the guys were like, oh, that's so easy. Like, I can do it.
- [37:44]
B
Everybody owns black. Yeah, like, everybody owns something black for the funeral. No, no, it's true.
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A
And then from like a color theory standpoint Kylan and I were both in white. So, like, we have all these awesome aerial pictures from our wedding. And you can see the bridal party. Cause they're all in their own distinct color. And then we're in white. So even from really far away, you can be like, oh, there's Ryan, there's Tifa, there's Cairo. So you can see who's, like, important to us in the wedding party. And then his parents wore, like, navy as, like, a half step between the.
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B
Bright colors and the black.
- [38:12]
A
And mine wore, like, a deep maroon. So it's like, you know, mother of the bride is usually supposed to be pink. Mother of the groom is supposed to be blue.
- [38:19]
B
I did not know that played on that.
- [38:20]
A
It's like, really old. No one actually does it anymore, but it's like the old school way. So we did a little half step there.
- [38:25]
B
I think my mom did wear pink. I wonder if she did that on purpose.
- [38:28]
A
I know. I feel like it's more of an older generation thing. For sure.
- [38:31]
B
Okay, that's good to know. No, I always thought, like, the. Whenever I see it on TikTok, people always get backlash for asking their guests to wear a certain, like, color or something.
- [38:43]
A
Yeah.
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B
Like, it's their day.
- [38:45]
A
I know. Well, and also it's because, like, people had to travel out too. So then people feel like I've already invested enough in this fricking wedding. Which I completely get that. So I tried, like, our welcome party, we had, like, a yacht that went through Chicago. Cause, like, the architecture tours for Chicago on a boat are super cool. And that was, like, my inspiration for that. And most of our guests had never been to Chicago, so it was like, an amazing way to see the city for the first time. So I tried to, like, sort of be like, dangle a carrot. Like, hey, there's other fun stuff too, not just our wedding. Like, you're gonna have so much fun.
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B
Well, in Chicago, I feel like it's a city that. That people. Sorry. That people would travel to otherwise, like, it's a city. It's like, similar to New York in a way. Like, it's a Midwest New York.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So it's like, there's things to do, there's free things to do.
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A
So there's a lot of really cool, free art museums in Chicago and stuff. Like, you really get to, like, see Chicago when you go there for, like, a very low barrier of entry once you're there. Perfect.
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B
It was lovely.
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A
So everyone had a great time.
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B
Yeah, everyone. You're like, yeah, the dinosaurs. Everybody it was great.
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A
It was great.
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B
I literally, when I saw the photos, I was like, this makes so much sense. And I was like, I love seeing weddings that are the people and, like, how they, like, it reflects them and their personalities.
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A
Me too.
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B
I feel like weddings can be so.
- [39:57]
A
Like, one size fits all. Yeah.
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B
Like, we had a lot. We had a ton of tequila at our wedding. I'm like, yeah, cuz that makes sense. Like, Isaac and I like to party. Well, now we're parents. I'm like, back in the day. What? So you guys got married in 2024?
- [40:13]
A
2025. 25 in 2024.
- [40:16]
B
So did you guys get married during the free agency process?
- [40:19]
A
Yeah. Which was so freaking stressful, actually. It was so stressful. Like, we got married, we did a mini moon right after, and then, like, we had to go straight to Philly because, like, we still have to do our honeymoon. Kylan thought we weren't getting any honeymoon at all until the season was over, because we were doing negotiations, like, the week before our wedding, which was so stressful. Yeah, it was so stressful. And then, you know, we had our wedding, and I surprised him with a mini moon in Colorado, like, off the grid in a little cabin so we could sort of, like, decompress, which, I mean, I'm so glad we did that. And then we went right to Philly.
- [40:53]
B
That's. I'm sure. It was like a breath of fresh. You're like, okay, yeah, wedding's done. Like, begin to relax.
- [40:59]
A
It's like, it really takes it out of you. Like, I was so, like, shocked at how badly, like, my feet hurt and how tired I was. Like, it really takes everything out of you emotionally.
- [41:08]
B
I just feel like there's also so much going on in your brain that you're like, oh, I still have to do this. Okay. I still have to do this. And then once the wedding's over, it's like, wait. There's a lot of space in my mind for just, like, thinking how many people were at your wedding?
- [41:19]
A
We had, like, 280 people there.
- [41:21]
B
Holy.
- [41:22]
A
Yeah. So we had, like, a big wedding.
- [41:24]
B
In for a destination.
- [41:26]
A
I know. I can't believe so many people showed up. Really?
- [41:28]
B
I don't even know 200 people.
- [41:30]
A
It was because our families are huge. Like, I come from, like, a big Italian family, so there's, like, a million of them. It's like rabbits. And so that was, like, half the guests straight there. And then Kylan's family lives, like, an hour outside of Chicago, so they were all super easy to get in which was, like, great. So it was mainly my family that had to fly in and my friends, like, one of my bridesmaids had to fly in from South Africa and her flight got delayed like, three different times, and she was like, get me there. And so she rolled in like an hour before the wedding, got her glam done super fast and was there.
- [42:00]
B
Oh, my God. Tragic. I know.
- [42:02]
A
She took a bus, a train, a plane, and then like, one of those little pedicabs to finally.
- [42:08]
B
Oh, my God, Wait. To have a friend that cares that much. Like, to do all those things.
- [42:12]
A
Cairo's so real.
- [42:13]
B
What is it? It's like, bring back inconveniencing yourself for the community. For. Yeah, like, for to be a villager. Like, I think I fully, like, think that this generation has gotten a little soft in, like, making excuses for, like, oh, like, my mental capacity is not there.
- [42:31]
A
So, like, I think it's post Covid. I think Covid really has, like, overreaching, like, ripple effects that people haven't even noticed, like, are necessarily a result of that.
- [42:41]
B
Yeah, I'm like, bailing is, like, actually rude.
- [42:44]
A
It is actually rude. And, like, I would so much rather someone be like, honestly, I'm kind of in like a hermit mode. I don't want to come. I would much rather somebody just say that than, like, not show up. And then I'm already there and I'm like, I guess I'm having lunch by myself. Yeah, like, oh, okay, I want to stay at home.
- [43:01]
B
Not today. You're like, okay. Can you at least get tell me why?
- [43:04]
A
Like, tell me like the day before. Like, honestly, I don't. I don't feel like leaving my house.
- [43:10]
B
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B
So was that stressful and like finding out what location or was it kind of like like exciting in a way?
- [46:29]
A
I think Kylan was excited about it. I was stressed about it just because like the Colts had had like such like a tumultuous few years and so I didn't know how that would like be impacting us necessarily. And Kylan Was, like, cool, calm and collected the whole time. It was really just me being like, oh, my God, like, what's gonna happen? Where are we gonna go? And then having to hold it in because I'm like, I'm not trying to infect him with my anxiety. Yeah. So it's just his mom calling me and us both being warriors and being like, okay, we gotta get it out over here. Let's go on a walk so that we don't stress him out, you know? And then he was fine. Like, his agency is good. So, like, he was chilling the whole time, and he had, like, three really cool offers that we had to decide between. So once those came across the table and they did come in pretty fast, I was like, okay, I can relax. It was really, like, the first, like, day. I was like, what's gonna happen?
- [47:14]
B
We really don't. Like, I feel like even with the NFL draft, like, some, like, if you're in the first round, you kind of have an idea of, like, where you're gonna fall. But, like, when it comes to free agency, like, you kind of have an idea of, like, what teams are going to be interested, but, like, you still don't really know.
- [47:27]
A
You don't know for sure. And it's also, like, constantly shifting because, like, you might get one offer in one hour, and then the next hour they're like, oh, actually, we signed this other guy. Sorry, it's at the table now. And then a new one comes in. Like, we were gonna sign this guy, but now we're not. Like, what do you think? And so it's just like, so many things happening at once. It's, like, super overstimulating.
- [47:45]
B
Yes. Oh, yes. Yeah. And it's like, if you make a quick decision, it's like, not just like an easy decision. It's like, like, oh, this is my entire life.
- [47:53]
A
Yeah, it's, like, life altering. There's, like, a ton of money to factor in. Then you have to also think about, like, the taxes and stuff. Like, okay, they're saying it's this much, but based on the location, it's actually this much. And then how long are we going to be there? And, like, what. What would it cost for us to get a house versus, like, an apartment? Like, there's just so many factors that you have to weigh, like, immediately before the window closes on the opportunity.
- [48:14]
B
It's almost like you have to, like, create a list before free agency. Like, yeah, here are the team. What teams rank ahead of other teams.
- [48:22]
A
Yeah.
- [48:22]
B
But then, like, for example, like, Kansas City could Be like, oh, we're offering you $10 million for two years or whatever. And then you could have, I don't know, what's the team? Green Bay, who's offering you $12 million for two years? And you're like, okay, what are the taxes amongst the two? What is like, is one cooler than the other? Like, how's the team doing? Because, like, also you get money for playing in playoffs and just the experience of going to Super Bowl. And then you're like, but how is it to live in Kansas versus, like.
- [48:52]
A
There'S way so much. And you have to be like, how is this team gonna impact, like, my next contract?
- [48:57]
B
Yeah.
- [48:57]
A
Is the team, like, maybe this is a lot of money, but, like, the team's not doing that well. So, like, then maybe I won't get more money later. So should I take less money now and get more money in the long run, or should I do more money now and then just not sign another contract? Like, you have to think about all these things.
- [49:12]
B
And coaches, like, yeah, certain coaches, like, you might vibe with versus like you might not. Or like, like, knowing somebody on the team could be a huge difference. Even when Isaac got drafted to the Chargers because he got drafted in the seventh round, he got like, he technically made less money than people who were undrafted going to teams with better taxes.
- [49:32]
A
Right, exactly.
- [49:33]
B
Because California is, like, so expensive. So he literally was like, as long as I don't go to California or New York, like, we're good. Yeah, literally. Because I don't know if people know this, but you get tax in the city that you play in. So, like, if you're playing in Las Vegas, like, you're getting taxes if you're Las Vegas resident. But just for that game. It's so interesting.
- [49:53]
A
It is really interesting. And so, yeah, I think every player is like, quietly, like, oh, my gosh, like New York and la, like, the.
- [50:00]
B
Trade off don't want to do that.
- [50:02]
A
No, they don't. And like, but the trade off is like, so much visibility. And so it's like, for some guys, it makes more sense than others where it's like, it could put me on the map if I'm only doing one year here, like, maybe that's worth it. So, like, there's just so many. It's like such a case by case basis.
- [50:16]
B
The Buffalo Bills always make me sad. Because you're getting taxed as, like a New York resident. I know, but you live in Buffalo.
- [50:22]
A
I know.
- [50:23]
B
No offense to the Buffalo people because.
- [50:25]
A
Cousins are big Buffalo fans. Sorry, guys, but that Is, like, a factor for sure that you have to weigh.
- [50:30]
B
It's brutal. But then you have to think about the fan base. It's like, it's so much fun to play for. A fun fan base.
- [50:37]
A
Yeah. That's what I love about, like, the Eagles. I know everyone's afraid of the Eagles fans, but, like, I saw, like, six Eagle fans, like, this morning at hotel.
- [50:45]
B
There's an Eagles bar, like, literally down the street.
- [50:47]
A
I'm telling you, they show up to everything. And, like, that's like, been. The biggest difference is, like, indie is so much more of, like, a boutique team. Like, it's still, like, building itself. It's still figuring out its team identity. Especially because, like, Irsay died. Rest in peace, Irsay. But, you know, it's like, it's such a different energy to go from, like, being in the Midwest and having a team that's, like, building and trying to figure out their identity and where they're going and, like, what they want to do, and then going to Philly, which has been, like, like, leading the league for the last few years. And, like, the fan base is, like, super invested emotionally. Like, it's such, like, a big difference.
- [51:23]
B
A huge difference, because it's almost like. I don't know, I just. No offense to the teams because my husband did play for the Colts and he did play for the Browns, which are objectively, like, teams that have losing records. No offense, but it is fun going to a team that, like, has, like. You're not counted out before the season begins. Yeah. There's probably. You're probably going to go to playoffs. Yeah.
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A
And I think it was great for us to, like, start with the Colts because, like, they were very hands on and, like, it was super tight knit and so, like, it was a great introduction to the league and so I'll always feel grateful for that. And I'm still friends with all the girls on the team and there's so many amazing, like, guys playing for the team and they're doing so well this year. I'm so happy for them. I'm really so. I've been texting all of them this year and being like, like, you guys are doing so good.
- [52:10]
B
I was talking to Emma Kelly about this. I was like, like, how do you feel about them doing good now?
- [52:15]
A
Yeah, I know. We were. It was funny because, like, the quarterback.
- [52:18]
B
Got hurt last night.
- [52:19]
A
Wait, did he?
- [52:20]
B
Yes. He's out for the season.
- [52:22]
A
He's out for this. Oh, my God, that's terrible.
- [52:24]
B
I think it's actually his acl.
- [52:25]
A
Oh, my Gosh, maybe I can help him.
- [52:28]
B
Yeah.
- [52:28]
A
Like, that's so terrible.
- [52:30]
B
Contact my people.
- [52:31]
A
Like, that's devastating. But no, it was funny because, like, Izzy, like, she also went to the Vikings with Emily or with Emma. Not Emily. Sorry, my best friend's name's Emily. Sorry, Emma. But so after the game, like, Kylan and Will were talking about it and they're like, I'm so happy for the Colts, but like, of course it has to be right after we left.
- [52:49]
B
I know, right? Oh, my God, that shit pissed me off. I'd be like, like, of course that's gonna happen.
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A
But I'm happy for them, though. I'm like, I. When I visited to like, see my. My dad's living in our house there this year, so I went to go hang out with my dad and I saw some of the girls while I was there and like, like, I got to see Ayanna, like Jonathan's wife. And like, I was like, how good does Jonathan feel right now? And she's like, he feels great. And I was so happy for them.
- [53:12]
B
Yeah. Oh, my God, I love. I'm like, no, I'm petty. Like, no, actually, like, I don't want the Colts to do well. Actually, I. I don't have a team now that I'm like, oh, it would piss me off if they did well. Well, probably cuz we're so far out from it that it, like, obviously wouldn't matter. But from the Colts to the Eagles, what was the biggest adjustment to, for.
- [53:32]
A
You personally, I would feel like the biggest adjustment is, like, being on the east coast, like, the energy of the east coast. And like, I'm an East coast girl at heart. So I was, like, excited about that. I was like, kylan, you're finally gonna live in a real city. And he was like, I've lived in Dallas and Austin. I've been in a real city. And I was like, no, it's not the same as like, an east coast city. Like, you don't, you don't understand what public transport does to a city. Like, it's completely different. And I love Dallas and Austin too, but, like, it is totally different. Yeah, so, like, that's like the city in of itself is like a main character in that way. And then also, like, the girls are just very different. And I wouldn't say, like, one is better or than the other. It's just like a totally different vibe. Because in indie, the girls are a lot more like, you know, focused on like, their kids and their family and like, the Bible study is like, really popular. And then Philly, everyone's, like, all over the place doing, like, totally different things. Things. And so it's, like. It's just interesting. Like, it's such a different dynamic.
- [54:29]
B
It is. And I think it's almost more interesting that, like, somehow the teams, like, get the players to, like, match the city. Yeah, they really do, somehow. You know, because when we were in Indiana, I was like. Oh, I don't know about, like, living in the middle of nowhere.
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A
Yeah. I wasn't sold on it. And then I got there, and I actually, like, did end up really liking it and, like, carved out my space there. Like, Kylan was born in Indiana, so he had for years been, like, like, one day we're gonna move to Indiana, and I'd be like, no, we're not.
- [54:57]
B
You guys lived closer to, like, what was ha. Like, when I say middle of nowhere, I don't think Indianapolis is the middle of nowhere. I actually lived, like.
- [55:04]
A
Yeah.
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B
Where they had training camp.
- [55:05]
A
Yeah.
- [55:06]
B
Like, that was the middle of nowhere. Well, now it probably isn't. Yes.
- [55:10]
A
Yeah.
- [55:10]
B
No, literally, I. There were cornfields.
- [55:12]
A
Yeah.
- [55:13]
B
I would go through. Through the cornfields around my walks, but.
- [55:15]
A
Yeah, we were more downtown, so, like, we were a little bit more, like, in the center of things. And so I ended up actually really liking the balance. Like, I don't think it's somewhere that I would ever, like, decide to retire in, but, like, I feel like we ended up having, like, a great experience there.
- [55:29]
B
Yeah.
- [55:29]
A
You know, which is all I was worried about going in where I was like, man, I hope that, like, I don't feel like, too much of, like, an outsider here, because, like, I have kind of a harsh personality. Like, I don't know how that's gonna, like, translate.
- [55:40]
B
Well, it's. It's like, me even moving from California to Indiana, which I'm a Midwest girl at heart. Like, I'm born and raised in Michigan, so. But after the four years in California, I was, like, I feel, like, different, and I don't know that I fit here anymore.
- [55:55]
A
Yeah, that's what I was, like, most worried about. And then I did sort of breathe a sigh of relief once I, like, met all of the girls where I was like, okay, like, actually, everyone is lovely. Like, this is going to be totally fine. But, like, that was the thing I was most worried about was, like, am I going to be able to find, like, people here that, like, I can hang out with and relate to? Really? For sure.
- [56:13]
B
You know, relating to the. Like, whenever people ask, like, oh, do you get along with everybody on the team, it's like, well, you don't get along with everybody in the world, so, like, why would it be different? Like, with your husband's job? Like, there are people you're gonna gravitate towards and people you're not going to gravitate towards just because of, like. Like, you're not gonna hang out every single day with somebody who has, like, five kids.
- [56:31]
A
Yeah, exactly. Just because it's a totally different phase of life. You know what I mean?
- [56:35]
B
No.
- [56:36]
A
Like, I. I love my friends with kids, and I love hanging out with their kids, but we're objectively doing very different things right now.
- [56:41]
B
Like, I'm literally writing a PA Patent right now. No. Is there anything that has surprised you about Philly?
- [56:48]
A
Oh, my gosh. Yeah. I think, like, honestly, Philly gets a bad rep for, like, everyone being really mean for some reason.
- [56:55]
B
I think if you're outside of the club, like, they hate you.
- [56:58]
A
Yeah, that's for sure. Definitely. I'm part of the club. Everyone's been really friendly and really great. And I do love, like, the people of Philadelphia. I feel like Philly's got, like, a little grit. It's got a little chip on its shoulder, and, like, that's my kind of city.
- [57:12]
B
Like, I love it.
- [57:12]
A
I'm like, yeah, I love the moxie.
- [57:14]
B
Yeah. I feel like you guys actually fit in Philly.
- [57:16]
A
Well, I think so, too. I love Philly.
- [57:19]
B
I think the only team that I would say, like, you might fit better would be, like, a team in New York, just because it's, like, so much history and art and, like, architectural and.
- [57:27]
A
Like, I've lived there for, like, years also, so I would be like, we can go back to my old apartment. Literally.
- [57:34]
B
I remember when Isaac was looking at, like, a team in New York work, and I was like, oh, we would ha. You would have to commute an hour every day to work because I would have to live in the city.
- [57:44]
A
Yeah.
- [57:45]
B
Like, I have to get this one win.
- [57:46]
A
You're very Upper east, right? I'm, like, very Upper East.
- [57:51]
B
Or, like, somewhere at least Upper West. Yeah, like, somewhere up.
- [57:55]
A
Don't worry. I'm.
- [57:56]
B
Oh, like, the only reason I know that because it's because of Gossip Girl, which just, like, says a lot about me. What has helped you feel stable when the NFL is, like, anything but stable?
- [58:06]
A
Oh, definitely Kylan. He's, like, such, like, a rock of a person in general. Like, and I feel like I'm very, like, up in the air always. Like, I'm very, like, flighty and sort of, like, dreamy and doing, like, bouncing from thing to thing. And Kylan's, like, so incredibly stable and grounded, and I am glad that he's not like. Like, he's such, like, a homebody. So when he comes from home, from work, like, we really just get to hang out. So I feel like. Like, I don't have, like, that sort of. Like, his career is so intense, and, like, I'm missing him all the time, even though he travels a lot, you know? Yeah. It feels like we spent so much.
- [58:39]
B
Time together, and, like, when he's home, it's just, like, normal.
- [58:42]
A
Yeah, it's just normal. Like, we never talk about football outside of football unless it's, like, the off season. Because he's like, I've spent all day doing that. Like, that's kind of the last thing I want to do right now. Like, I already watched all my film. Like, he does everything before he comes home. So once he's home, he's like, like, fully, like, off the clock and just home.
- [58:58]
B
My husband and your husband are so different.
- [59:01]
A
Like, people's husbands come home and it's still football. Football.
- [59:03]
B
Well, no, it's not even that. I think Isaac, like, worries about, like, five steps forward, and it sounds like Kylin's just like, no.
- [59:10]
A
Like, he's, like, hanging on it. Like, he. Kylan is a worrier in, like, a very, like, contained way. Like, he'll. He'll give himself, like, 20 minutes to be like, all right, I gotta do these next 50 things. And he'll, like, make a little list and get it done. Like, he's super, like, well regulated, and I'm not. So it's a very important balance to me.
- [59:29]
B
Like, did he go to therapy? Like, he's.
- [59:32]
A
He literally. He's gone to therapy before. He had a good therapist, but I think he's just like, that. Like, he's just always been super grounded. And, like, I have, like, so many mental health problems, and I'm not very well regulated. And, like, over the last seven years, Kylan's really helped me, like, chill out. Like, really, like, calm down.
- [59:50]
B
Maybe I need to help Isaac calm down. I'm like, you don't need to be stressed about, like, what's happening in five months. Like, yeah, we'll figure it out. Like, why are you. What is it? Like, stress is, like, the thief of.
- [60:04]
A
Oh, the thief of joy.
- [60:05]
B
Yeah. Right.
- [60:06]
A
Yeah.
- [60:06]
B
I'm like, yeah, that's whatever. I'm like, he needs to relax. I think if you're listening, you need to relax. What is. What Are you most proud of yourself for. In this chapter of your life?
- [60:16]
A
I think I'm most proud of myself for, like, my adaptability. I feel like, honestly, like, getting into the NFL world kind of felt like getting hit by, like, a train.
- [60:24]
B
It's a lot, you know, Literally, it's like, a lot.
- [60:27]
A
Yeah, it took me like, a year and a half to, like, finally like, understand, like, oh, this is the training schedule. This is what off season looks like. This is what. This is ota.
- [60:35]
B
Like, your life revolves around football year round.
- [60:38]
A
Yeah, year round. Like, it's not just during the football season. So it took me, like, like a while, especially because I'm like, more of an anxiously attached person to kind of be like, okay, yeah, like, this is what's gonna happen. So, like, it's fine. Like, I. I know what that feels like now. It's okay.
- [60:53]
B
You know, I. Yeah, I think that, like, the adaptability in the NFL is, like, very important, like, if you want to be happy in, like, every phase throughout the NFL. Because it's a lot. And. Yeah, it'll like, actually, like, eat you up, chew you, and then spit you out.
- [61:09]
A
No, for sure. It's. It's. I always tell people, like, the. The lifestyle of the NFL and the relationship model within the NFL is like, definitely not for the faint of heart. Like, you really have to be, like, super connected and, like, have really high trust and feel like, okay all the time. And especially because, like, there's the injuries, there's all this other stuff that factor in. So, like, you have to be able to, like, kind of ground yourself, which is, like, not something I've historically been good at before this chapter of my life. And so I feel like it really helped me, like, forced me to do.
- [61:39]
B
It, which is, yeah, such a game changer. Before we jump into some rapid fire questions, what are you looking forward to next in your, like, in this next phase of life? Like, you're married, you guys are living in Philly.
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A
I think I'm. I'm looking forward to, like, I'm doing a lot of interesting career stuff right now for the next year. And then we're like, talking about maybe considering discussing, like, getting pregnant sometime next year. And that would be really fun for me. A huge game changer. It's a huge thing. It affects, like, every area of your life. So, like, we're trying to get everything set up. We're going to sell our house in indie this off season and then figure out where we want our new offseason house. I'm getting dual citizenship In Italy right now. Cuz I'm Italian.
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B
So many interesting things.
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A
A lot of things going on right now. So, like, I'm excited there's this with Italy.
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B
So like a kid. A kid can wait. Okay. Yeah.
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A
I'm like, I got to make sure my Italian's high enough that, like, we can do one parent, one language and then, like, figure out if we want to get a house there and like, do all of that. That stuff.
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B
Maybe your offseason house will be in Italy.
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A
I've been trying to sell that idea where I'm like, there's some cool ones. Think about it. Just think about it. A lot of. We could get one with the gym. You could train over there. Your dad's your trainer. We could just ring him. Right? You're like, just think about it. Just think about it.
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B
Well, thank you so much for coming on. Let's jump into some rapid fire questions.
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A
Okay.
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B
College football Saturdays or NFL Sundays?
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A
NFL Sundays. Yeah.
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B
Yeah. Game day fits or comfy casual?
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A
I like the game day fits.
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B
Yeah, I respect that. Philly fans or indie fans?
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A
Philly fans.
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B
You have to say that now. Okay.
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A
I would say it anyway.
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B
Yeah. You're like, I don't care. Home games or away games?
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A
Home games? Home games.
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B
Sideline seats or sweets.
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A
Ooh. I'm like, almost never in a suite, but I do love a suite on the low. Like, like, honestly, like, you so comfy. Chairs are so comfy.
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B
Like watching on TV anyways. So it's like there's a TV in the suite and like, yeah, you're still there.
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A
I don't know.
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B
Coaching your kids team or cheering from the sidelines?
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A
Oh, I think I'm more of a cheer from the sidelines.
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B
Kelsey Brothers or Manning Brothers?
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A
Kelsey Brothers.
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B
Celebrating a win with the team or celebrating alone with Kyn?
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A
Celebrating alone for sure. We're way more like, like at home celebrate kind of people.
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B
Are you. Are you guys not, like, go out to dinner and celebrate?
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A
No, we're like, let's go home and get a pizza and watch some anime.
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B
Oh, my God. I'm like, bring me to a steakhouse and then like medium rare. A glass of red wine, Maybe a bottle.
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A
And I don't know, we'll do that when people visit. But when it's just us, I'm like, let's just go home.
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B
You're way more low key. I'm like, I'm so low maintenance. But here I am asking for medium rare. Kidding. And then where can the people find you on social media?
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A
You can find me on TikTok at Daisy Foco on Insta Daze. Foco just drop the y. And then YouTube is also Daisy Foco.
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B
Perfect. All right, well, thank you so much for coming on.
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A
Thank you so much for having me.
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B
All right, guys, I hope you enjoyed and I look forward to seeing you next Sunday. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products.
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A
Or services referred to in this episode.