Are we ready for two kids? with guest Isaac Rochell

Summary

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Sunday Sports Club with Allison Kuch

Episode: Are We Ready for Two Kids?
Guest: Isaac Rochell
Date: December 7, 2025
Host: Allison Kuch | Produced by Dear Media

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Main Theme

This episode takes a heartfelt and humorous look at Allison Kuch and her husband Isaac Rochell’s evolving journey as parents, as they candidly discuss the transition from one child to two. While sports are usually the focus, this week’s conversation is all about pregnancy, preparing for a second baby, and how family dynamics shift as their daughter Scotty prepares for siblinghood.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Pregnancy #2: What’s Different?

• Location & Nostalgia: The episode is recorded in Las Vegas, where Allison was pregnant with their first child (00:30).
• Changes this time:
  • Life is "so different" with a toddler and a new pregnancy—less time to obsess over every weekly milestone (02:31, 03:08).
  • Physical symptoms and emotions have changed. Allison had more nausea and fatigue the first time; this one’s “less forgettable” now that she’s showing sooner (02:39, 05:23).

Quote:

“The second one, you kind of forget. You’re just… until there’s a bump, it’s like, ‘Oh shoot, we’re pregnant!’” — Isaac (02:31)

• Delay in Sharing Pregnancy News:
  Allison didn’t tell friends and family until 16 weeks, attributing it to discomfort, busyness, and feeling “almost embarrassed” by the attention (06:10–06:51).

2. The Age Gap & Sibling Readiness

• Gap between kids:
  The couple discusses the pros and cons of a 2.5-year age gap. They feel two under two is doable but would pose challenges with sleep, potty training, and ensuring their daughter is independent enough (07:49–08:19).
• Sleep, Pacifiers, and Control:
  Humorously convey Scotty’s “dominant personality”—she already hoards pacifiers and would “run the house” if they lost control with two close-in-age (09:18–10:08).

Quote:

“She hides pacifiers now… we’ve clearly gotten out of control.” — Allison (09:46)

3. Stressors, Lessons Learned & Evolving Confidence

• Less Stressed About:
  Both are much less anxious about baby care basics and postpartum, but more aware of the “reality” of newborn sleep deprivation (10:27–11:11).
• Birth Plans:
  Allison is excited for birth, hoping for a VBAC after a positive C-section experience with Scotty (11:56–14:35).

Quote:

“Now I’m going into birth, like, really excited... the worst birth has already happened, and I loved it.” — Allison (14:35)

• Perspectives on C-sections:
  Isaac humorously recounts his “PTSD” from the operating room, acknowledging how intense the process is for both parents (14:41–16:41).

4. Newborn Days: What They’d Do Differently (and What They Nailed)

• Savoring the Newborn Phase:
  Allison regrets rushing back into routine last time. This time she plans to soak in the post-birth period, stay in bed, enjoy recovery, and take things slower (25:33–26:44).
• Breastfeeding Confidence:
  Allison is proud of mastering breastfeeding/pumping last time, pledges to exclusively breastfeed and avoid pumping too early this time (29:17–30:48).
• Sharing Parental Lessons:
  Isaac declares, tongue-in-cheek, his "victory" for cleaning the breast pumps—a team effort they hope to continue (31:22–31:43).
• What They Won’t Repeat:
  Will introduce more structure for naps/routine, skip repeat mistakes like early bottle introduction or certain sleep gadgets (32:13–34:20).
  • Plan to introduce naps in broad daylight and acclimate baby to noise (34:32–34:57).

5. Handling Change for Scotty (Their First Child)

• No elaborate baby prep:
  Allison admits they haven’t prepared for the new baby and will wait until February to start (38:28).
• Nesting energy:
  Allison shares her unique “nesting” style—late-night cleaning binges for postpartum mental health (38:31–39:17).
• Past postpartum chaos:
  They reminisce about a chaotic first postpartum: moving houses, broken utilities, hospitalization (39:47–41:40).
• Addressing postpartum depression:
  Allison values the importance of a “clean environment” for her mental and emotional recovery (39:17–39:44).

6. Emotions: Guilt, Excitement, & Relationship Dynamics

• Second Baby Feelings:
  Both expect more immediate connection with their second baby, having experienced the evolution of parent-child bonds with Scotty (23:40–24:48).
• Sibling Bond Hopes:
  Excited to watch Scotty’s dynamic with the new baby, expecting a mix of excitement and territorial play based on how she treats her dolls (43:00–44:05).
• Marriage and Parenting:
  They reflect on how parenthood changes relationships, working through phases, and how seeing your partner as a parent can deepen—or test—the bond (47:24–49:45).

Quote:

“When you’re dating…it’s like, do you think they’re going to be up at 3am with you when your nipples are bleeding... If he’s not texting you back, don’t text him back!” — Allison (49:45)

7. Looking Ahead

• Baby Moon Plans:
  Both want a family “baby moon,” bringing their daughter and possibly grandparents along to make memories before baby #2 arrives (43:53–46:44).
• Relationship Maintenance:
  They feel better equipped to protect couple time, already have trusted babysitters to sneak out for “In-N-Out drive-through” date nights (50:31–50:49).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Pregnancy Feel:
  “Motherhood is a sport for sure.” — Allison (00:09)
• Sibling Prep:
  “The new crazies are two under one…two under one would quite literally rock our worlds.” — Isaac (07:23)
• Hospital Birth:
  “You were literally crying while they were pulling Scotty out, saying, ‘I'm so scared.’” — Isaac (15:53)
• Sibling Tease:
  “Do you want a brother or sister?... ‘Gaga!’ [Scotty says]... No, we’re done with dogs.” — Allison (41:56)
• Marriage Real Talk:
  “If you were a horrible parent, I would have no problem divorcing you.” — Allison (49:05)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time | Segment | |-----------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:30 | Intro: Recording in Las Vegas—the city of Allison’s first pregnancy | | 02:20–06:10 | Biggest differences between pregnancies, delayed announcement | | 07:49–10:08 | Debating age gaps, sleep, and “losing control” as parents | | 11:56–14:35 | Birth plans, C-section reflections, excitement for trying for a VBAC | | 23:40–25:32 | Emotional connection with baby #2, what they expect to savor more | | 29:17–31:20 | Breastfeeding win, what they feel confident about for baby #2 | | 32:13–34:57 | Parenting “redos”: structure, nap strategies, noise | | 38:28–41:40 | Preparing (or not), postpartum chaos stories, mental health and postpartum plans | | 43:53–46:44 | Baby moon and family travel balance | | 47:24–49:45 | Marriage after kids—the “second kid” relationship phase |

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Final Takeaways

• Allison and Isaac share a raw, relatable, and refreshingly funny look at the shift from one child to two, emphasizing the importance of grace, flexibility, and mutual support.
• Each phase—pregnancy, birth, and the blurry newborn days—brings both new struggles and second-chance opportunities to savor what truly matters: family, connection, and the chaotic, beautiful adventure of parenting.

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Transcript

[A]

The following podcast is a Dear Media Production. What's up, guys? Welcome back to Sunday Sports Club Podcast, a podcast all about sports told by a woman. But honestly, it's really not always about sports. And this episode is not about sports. Although I could consider motherhood a sport for sure. Today we are talking all things baby number two.

[B]

So we came all the way to Vegas, my former NFL city, to not talk about sports.

[A]

Yeah, we're actually recording. We're recording this in Vegas. And I was like, oh, like, this will be a fun place to record an episode. And it's crazy because I was pregnant the entire time we lived in Vegas.

[B]

Wow, that's weird.

[A]

But this pregnancy is so different. Not only because I feel different and, like, the symptoms are different, but also because just like, our life is so different.

[B]

What? You were pregnant, what, like 20 weeks through what, like 32?

[A]

Isaac got a call. My first pregnancy when I was 20 weeks pregnant because I specifically remember you leaving to go to the Raiders camp. And then the following day I had my anatomy scan.

[B]

Oh, wow. I did miss the anatomy scan.

[A]

Yeah, you did.

[B]

That's crazy. You were also in the phase of pregnancy where you were like, super clingy and you were like, I want you to retire. I'm like, ally, we waited a long time for me to get signed. I'm not retiring right now.

[A]

It's funny because I'm not like a very, like, touchy feely person. Everybody has their love languages and like, physical touches. Like last, honestly. Which is interesting though, because as a mother, I show love definitely by physical time. I feel like I'm all love languages to our daughter, but when it comes to me, I'm like, that's the least. Except when I'm pregnant.

[B]

Something about cuddling like a little kid, though. I mean, it's so cute to cuddle her.

[A]

But today we are going to be talking all things baby number two. I already kind of did a pregnancy episode and Scotty wasn't feeling good, so you weren't on the episode.

[B]

Let's. What do you do? You have, like a lineup of questions about. Wow.

[A]

I am prepared.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Excited.

[A]

Yeah. So, Isaac, you're in the hot seat. Oh, yeah. By the way, we have Isaac on today.

[B]

Yeah, I. Yeah. Hey, this is relaxing, though.

[A]

I don't have something to do with baby too.

[B]

I don't have to do anything. I just sit here and answer your questions, which is chill.

[A]

Yeah, that must be nice.

[B]

It's kind of cozy.

[A]

What's been the biggest difference between first pregnancy and second pregnancy for Both of us.

[B]

I. Well, do you want to answer for.

[A]

You go first. You're the guest.

[B]

I think the biggest difference right now is that the second one, you kind of, like, forget. Like, you're just. So now that you're getting a bump, it's less.

[A]

Less forgettable.

[B]

Yeah, it's less forgettable because it's there.

[A]

This poor baby's gonna listen to this and be like, you guys forgot about me.

[B]

But you just are like, oh, yeah, shoot, we're pregnant, like, or you're pregnant. I don't need Kylie. Kelsey being, like, mention. Say, we're.

[A]

You said we are pregnant.

[B]

We are. I am definitely not preg. But, yeah, it just kind of keeps going. I feel like the first pregnancy, it was like, everything. Like, it was like, oh, it's okay. We're at 21 and a half weeks. Okay, we're at 22 weeks and three days. We're at now. What type of week are we at?

[A]

I'm like, I'm either 17, 18, or 19, I think.

[B]

I mean, we haven't even watched our girls videos.

[A]

Yeah. We have a pregnancy app, and it's a purple one. I think it's, like, what to expect. And every week that you turn a different amount of weeks pregnant, this girl does.

[B]

We try to guess the intro. She's like, you might be feeling a little hungry.

[A]

She's like, mama, are you tired?

But we watched them every single week when we were pregnant with Scotty on the week that I changed to, like, weeks. How many weeks pregnant I was?

[B]

We got to do better watching them.

[A]

Yeah, we really haven't been watching them. But also, I think the lack of my symptoms. The first trimester kind of also came into play. Like, I was definitely tired, but I wasn't nauseous. And, like, I didn't have, like, full days where I laid in bed. I also don't feel like I got that luxury, though.

[B]

You A little bit. But, yeah, you weren't. You're not as tired as you were the first time. The first time, it was like, we have to cancel this flight. You're feeling nauseous, you're feeling whatever. Which is interesting. We haven't announced a gender. Maybe that plays into the gender situation. Different symptoms. Who knows?

[A]

I actually think by the time this episode goes live, maybe not. I don't know, the gender will be live. But it is so interesting because it has been so different. But the thing about the first pregnancy is I feel like I got my energy back.

[B]

Second, third trimester, like, your energy's back. No, I Feel like you get the zoomies every once in a while.

[A]

Yeah. It's always at, like, 11pm you hit weight.

[B]

Like, you have a very predictable, like, arc throughout the day where it's like, I know there's going to be like, like, emotionally, like, on the spectrum. Like, you're going to hit every emotion throughout the day. Like, there's going to be a dark moment. There's going to be a super every emotion.

[A]

Jesus Christ.

[B]

There's going to. No, it's not a bad thing. You're not. Like, it's not these. These massive swings. I'm just saying, like, just generally, it's based on the two pregnancies that you've had. In my observation, that's. That's just how, like, emotionally how it seems like the second trimester is where it's like you hit all the emotions.

[A]

Yeah. I think this. This pregnancy, I'm kind of struggling more with.

Like, I've g. I've gotten a bump way quicker, which. The first time I didn't even feel like I was pregnant until I was like, 30 weeks. And this time I'm like, ooh, I.

[B]

Remember you being at, like, 36 weeks when we were on the walk in. In Newport and you took a picture in front of the house, and I was like, your bump is, like, low key, kind of small. And we were literally about to have Scotty.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And now, like, now.

[A]

What is it now?

[B]

It's huge. I'm joking. No, but now you definitely have a. Like, you have a.

[A]

Feel free to cancel him.

[B]

But I was mentioning yesterday when we were with people, I was like, oh, yeah, Ali's pregnant. And people were flabbergasted.

[A]

Like, wait, really?

[B]

They were like, oh, shoot. I didn't know she was pregnant. I'm like, in my mind, I'm like, she has a bump.

[A]

Like, it's so weird this time. I don't know if it's. I didn't tell anybody I was pregnant until, like, 16 weeks. That includes, like, our families, our friends. Like, they're like, I didn't tell anybody until really late.

[B]

Yeah. It became an issue. It became like an alley. We actually should probably start telling people.

[A]

Yeah. I. So there's a variety of reasons as to why I didn't want to or feel comfortable or, like, why we just didn't.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or we just were busy. But now when somebody even mentions my pregnancy, I almost get embarrassed.

[B]

Wow. A little teen pregnancy syndrome.

[A]

Here I am a teen mom. Isn't that weird, though?

[B]

It just feels like, like, I almost.

[A]

Like, don't like want the attention.

[B]

You also were kind of like, which.

[A]

Is weird because being on social media like you would think like that's all you want.

[B]

You were feeling like to this age gap was even soon, like you were like felt like people would be like, oh they're reckless cuz they're having a kid.

[A]

It's a two and a half year age gap. I feel like that's not a crazy small age gap. That's huge because me and my siblings were three years and I remember thinking like wow, that's a kind of a big age gap.

[B]

2 under 2 doesn't seem crazy anymore. I think the new crazies one on are 2 under 1, 2 under 1 would quite literally rock our worlds.

[A]

I couldn't even do one under one.

[B]

Boys struggled with one under one. Two under two doesn't seem crazy to me. I could totally see having a fresh newborn right now. I don't think it'd be that crazy with Scotty.

[A]

I agree. Because Scotty is were I mean only a few weeks away from her second birthday. I don't think it would be crazy. But even knowing each month she gets like a whole new vocabulary, she gets a whole new set of skills. She like independent plays more and more and more and her personality comes out that I can only imagine. Like if I thought it would be like okay now how much I think it's going to be okay when the baby's born.

[B]

Here's the primary issue with 202, Scotty. Like we're still trying to get rid of the pacifier. We are still trying to be like potty train. Yeah. Like those things need to be pretty much done by the time the second child comes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like I need you sleeping in your bed. Like I need you like fully whatever. So like that's where 202 would become very difficult.

[A]

Agreed. Because we all also like we're able to be like, okay, we're probably gonna take a hit on sleep for like a week or two when it comes.

[B]

To taking new baby. Oh, I say a week or two, Mike. I don't know what pregnancy. I don't know you did last time but we took hits for a full.

[A]

Year when it comes to our two year old. I know we're going to take a hit on sleep when it comes to taking away her pacifier or just like any changes like that we might make. So knowing that we can do that before we have a newborn is nice. Will we actually do it in time?

[B]

Yeah, we will.

[A]

Yeah, we better.

[B]

Yeah, we. It's Not.

[A]

I'm not giving us a choice.

[B]

Last thing on Scotty is if we had a kid two under two, like, if we had another baby. She's got a dominant personality. She would take over that house in a way that I think would be terrifying. I would be like, wow, she fully runs this house. Like, she. Why does she have 10 pacifiers? Why is she hoarding pacifiers?

[A]

You're saying we would quickly, like, lose control?

[B]

Yeah, because it'd be like, we're okay. One child is crying.

[A]

She's smarter than us.

[B]

Yeah. I'd be like, wow, Ali. She's really like.

[A]

She hides pacifiers now.

[B]

She's, like, dealing pacifiers.

[A]

She's like, I'll find them, like, in her baby doll stroller. Like, I'll find them in her toy boxes of like, we've clearly gotten out of control. Because I'm like, how do. How does she have so many. But I think she's hid them. And I'm like, oh, wow, we only have one. Like, let me order, like, two more just in case. And then I'm like, wait, how do we have 20 pacifiers?

[B]

Her little brain is about to hit the stage where she realizes she can hide stuff.

[A]

No, she already is.

[B]

And we're gonna be like, scotty, where are the pacifiers? Tell me now.

[A]

Until we take it away. And then she's gonna start stealing her brother or sister's pacifier.

[B]

I can't wait. That's gonna be unreal.

[A]

Is there anything you're less stressed about now that you've already been through it once?

[B]

Everything. Literally, I'm less stressed about everything.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

I mean, there's the only thing that I think. I mean, I'm. Even the only thing that I'm more stressed about is sleep, because I. I now know exactly what it looks like. Like, I know what the first five weeks are gonna feel like adjusting. And that's. I'm not looking forward to that.

[A]

I mean. Yeah. But I also feel like our current sleep is we co. Sleep with our 2 year old, and that's just. Honestly, we just haven't felt the need to, like, get her out of our bed. She goes to sleep. No, she literally goes to sleep in her crib and she cries at 3am and we go and get her and it's fine right now. And I'm sure if we wanted to, like, sleep train her out of that, we could.

[B]

No, it's literally my thing. Pulling her in bed and her cuddling with us is quite literally my favorite thing.

[A]

But the issue is that when we have a second baby. We clearly can't do that. So it's like, is Isaac sleeping with Scotty? Then you're getting full night's sleep, which, honestly, I feel like if. I feel like only one of us should take a hit, and that's obviously.

[B]

Going to be me, but then it's going to get. It's going to get dicey. Like, if I have 3am wake ups and I'm sleeping in her room, and then I'm like, oh, I have to leave.

[A]

Oh, for work.

[B]

So then I would drop her off.

[A]

In your room because Isaac has 3am wake ups for Good Morning Football, which is a show he's on.

[B]

Yeah, no, but either way, to answer the question, sleep's the only thing that's. I'm like, oh, wow, that is going to be tough. But other than that, literally nothing stresses me out.

[A]

I'm like, really excited for birth. I tell Isaac this all the time. I cannot wait to give birth because the worst is the quote unquote worst has already happened. I've already had to have a C section. This time I'm going to try for a vbac.

[B]

And is it, is it nice knowing that you could.

[A]

I could just choose to have a C section.

[B]

Yeah, you could just be like, you know what? I'm just gonna do a C section. Because we did have a good C section experience. Like, objectively, it was like last night dinner, like, us going on a family dinner with Scotty before, like, Duffy Boat, like, could be.

[A]

We would have, like, the dogs would be set up with, like, walkers. We would have, like our babysitter be able to come and stay with Scotty and us go to the hospital. We'd be able to have like a last dinner. A C section would probably take a lot of stress off our plate. But I don't know that I'm ready to give up the idea of trying for a vbac.

[B]

If you have a second C section. Is it like, no chance you're doing a vbac?

[A]

I think that I probably wouldn't try. I don't think I would try the risk. But the thing about my first birth is I had a C section and it was a planned C section because Scottie was breached starting at 30 weeks and she just never flipped. And come to find out she was nine and a half pounds.

[B]

She's so perfect.

[A]

So I quickly, like, I never really got to experience, like, oh, I'm prepping for labor. Like, I didn't do any of the teas. I didn't do the dates. Cuz I was like, well, I'm having a C section. Why am I going to waste my time? I did lay upside down for a long time.

[B]

But now you did everything.

[A]

I was.

[B]

Are we acting like our whole Vegas house wasn't like, contraptions? Mug wart. We. The pool heated so you could do flips.

[A]

You did everything, Babies.

[B]

Yeah. That's all we did.

[A]

Well, I. I know, but I wasn't, like, preparing for labor and, like, drinking teas or, like, doing oils or anything like that.

[B]

I think she wasn't flipping. It was like, all right, this is a wrap.

[A]

So, like, knowing that I've already had a C section, which, to some people is, like, the scariest, like, labor you could have, and I loved my C section. Now I'm like, okay, my body is. Is probably capable of, like, the other style of birth, and I want to try for that.

[B]

But, like, can you not say vaginal birth?

[A]

No, I can. I don't know why I feel weird saying it. Jesus Christ.

[B]

Like, vagina. Are we. It's 2025. We can't say that.

[A]

But, like, my daughter was breach, so I had a planned C section. And knowing that, like, my body didn't. It wasn't. I didn't have a C section because my body couldn't do it. I had it because my daughter is stubborn. So now I'm like, okay. Like, the worst birth has already happened, and I loved it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So now I'm going into birth, like, really excited.

[B]

It was really great, honestly. It was really chill.

[A]

It's like you were. You literally talk about my birth like you have ptsd. I remember. Funny, it's like having an argument at postpartum, like, a few weeks postpartum. We were talking with some friends, and Isaac was like, man, that was like. I didn't. I Like, it was. I was like, buddy, PTSD from a birth you didn't complete.

[B]

We.

[A]

You were in the room, and you're lucky I'm allowing you next time.

[B]

I understand. I understand that. But, like, if it's not a competition, there's two objective experiences in that room. I had never been in an operating room. I have never.

[A]

It's not about you, blood.

[B]

I'm just saying, I'm. It's two realities, okay?

[A]

I've never been awake during surgery before. Getting a child taken out of my body and then. Oh, bye, Isaac. Bye, Scotty. Okay, I'll just lay here and let my OB GYN talk to the anesthesiologist about his golf game.

[B]

I. What you did I said I came out publicly. I made a public statement.

Afterwards saying, whoever says that C sections are not that big of a deal, they have never seen one. Because what you did was crazy.

[A]

Really? Because I'm like, I don't think it was that big of a deal.

[B]

You. Ally, you were literally crying while they were pulling Scotty out, saying, I'm so scared. It literally.

[A]

You were pushing down on my ribs.

[B]

Have you ever seen Save It Private? Saving Private Ryan?

[A]

No.

[B]

That's what it felt like. Like a soldier that was like, taking its last breath. Like, I'm scared. Tell my family I love them. That's what it felt like when you were. When they were pulling Scotty out of your. The incision that was way smaller than.

[A]

I just feel like that's, like, a very vulgar interaction.

[B]

But what I'm saying is it's super intense what you did. All I'm saying is.

[A]

But you don't get to feel that.

[B]

You know what? It was nothing. It was nothing.

[A]

Like, buddy, you. You walked out of that operating room with a newborn baby in your hands. Now is just laying there. They're like, okay, layer number one, layer number two, layer number three.

[B]

I will say this. This is one thing that you can't take from me. Them taking me in another room with a child that I don't know. I'm like, I don't know who this. What this thing is.

[A]

Our daughter.

[B]

Yeah. Which now I would do anything for our daughter. It's very different experiences now, but, like, them being like, okay, dad, time to change a diaper. Get the dip type ready. I'm like, bro, I've never even held a child, let alone changing a diaper.

[A]

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[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

You think?

[B]

The other day, I mean, I, like the first child, AKA Scotty, I. She came out and I was just truly like, this is a blob. Like, I and I. There was no, like, emotion. Yeah, this is a nine and a half pound blob that's screaming. I have to cut the umbilical cord. Now I'm performing surgery. Now I'm the doctor.

[A]

Do you hear Isaac making himself the main character of my birthday?

[B]

All right, let me answer your question, though.

[A]

Isaac is the type of guy to say, we're pregnant.

[B]

I don't know when I. I'm gonna answer your question and then talk about that. So the second child, who we don't know the gender yet. I mean, we do, but we haven't announced it. I'm gonna be very excited to meet them. Like, I'm very excited to hold them immediately. Like the skin to skin immediately knowing what, like, how I feel.

[A]

Like you and I are going to be fighting in the. And.

[B]

Absolutely. But, like, like, I could see myself crying seeing this child, whereas I don't. I wasn't even close to that point with Scotty. This child knowing.

[A]

Because you were going.

[B]

Because my tummy hurt. Is that it? Tell me. Going through something traumatic, knowing what's to come in that relationship. I think it's. I would. I'll probably lose It.

[A]

I also. I feel like this time is a little bit different because I think once this baby comes out, I'm immediate. Immediately going to, like, have concerns. Like, I'm immediately going to be like, don't take the baby away from me. I'm immediately going to be like, okay. Is like. Is baby breathing okay? I don't know why, but just knowing the connection I have with Scotty now. Like, when I first got handed Scotty, I was like, what the.

[B]

Is going well. You know, it's at risk.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's at. You know what's at stake. Like, how beautiful that relationship is. And then you're like, I don't want anything to happen to that love.

[A]

It's actually so crazy.

[B]

I actually can't wait to meet that.

[A]

What's. What's something you're savoring more this time around? I think for me, a thousand percent, the newborn phase. I. Yeah, I. I know it's going to be a struggle with, like, recovery and sleep, and there's gonna be a lot of hormones, but I. The first time around was so, like, okay, birth. Let's get back to regular life. This time, I. I promise you, for three weeks, I will not be leaving our bed, our bedroom. I'll be going on walks fully in a diaper. And I just want to have, like, the expectation that the. That time period is meant to enjoy and fully take in. Whereas in the first time, I was trying to speed it up and, like, get into a routine. I went to target at 4 days.

[B]

Postpartum in a weird place.

[A]

I don't even think I was allowed to drive a motor vehicle.

[B]

You didn't even tell me. I woke up and I'm like, where is. Where's the mother of my child?

[A]

Wait. The fact that I left my daughter, like, four days just to, like, run.

[B]

To Target, like, what are we doing? No, but now I could see you being like, I'm so excited to take him or her to Target with me. Baby wear, like, go get coffee with just us.

[A]

And I feel way more confident.

[B]

I also, like, even.

Like, when Scotty was young, you would be like, go on daddy daughter dates when she was super young. And I'm like, she's not going to remember this. It doesn't matter. Matter. But you with this next kid, though, I feel like I'm gonna be like, no, I want to go. Like, I'll take them by myself and just go. Literally walk on the beach and just make memories with the newborn. Like, it's going to be a totally different experience. We Say that, and then we're gonna get two hours of sleep and be like, I'm a zombie right now.

[A]

The thing is, is I can. I could go off like, I'm a low. I think there are two types of people. Low sleep needs people, and high sleep needs people. And when it comes to me, I.

[B]

People that are soft, you just think I'm soft.

[A]

There are people who are low sleep needs, and there are people who are soft, and Isaac is soft.

[B]

I. This is. This is the thing.

[A]

If Isaac doesn't get at least seven hours, he's a widow. Clank.

[B]

Ali just doesn't acknowledge the fact that I played in the NFL and, like, was a high level athlete.

[A]

That's the past buddy half of my.

[B]

Life where sleep was literally the most important thing that I had. So I've always been like, I need eight hours of sleep so I can practice well. So you can't just get rid of that. I'm a dog, Ally. My bad.

[A]

Sorry. Yeah, okay.

Yeah, well, when it comes to the newborn phase, I. I'm not scared of a sleep thing. I think I'm more just, like.

I don't know, I think I'm, like, scared of, like, struggling.

Or not struggling. I'm scared of the juggling of, like, loving my daughter and wanting to hang out with Scotty still and also wanting to make these, like, newborn memories and soak it all in. And I feel like there's gonna be like a week or two where I'm like, I'm gonna. I. I want Scotty. Maybe we fly grandparents into town and, like, make it special. She can go to Disney and that way we can, like, get some time.

[B]

Scotty will be all right. Scotty.

[A]

No. When I thought I was pregnant, I was terrified for Scotty because I was like, wait, she's not just. She's my little baby.

[B]

You also have to understand, it's like. It's like getting a dog. Another dog. Like, she's gonna be happy.

[A]

Isaac, you did not just compare our daughter to a dog. Isaac, I'm gonna. Let's go on to the next question.

[B]

Wait, no, but seriously, like, she's gonna be more excited for a new child. Like, that. That in and of itself is like, oh, my God, there's another person here. She's gonna be excited about it.

[A]

No. Have you seen her with her baby dolls? Mine, mine, mine.

[B]

Territorial. She's gonna be yanking.

[A]

I'm like, no, it's mine.

What is.

What's one thing you think you nailed as a first time parent that you hope to Repeat. I think for me, breast milk, I think that that came so easy to me. Now I did have to start exclusively pumping at three months postpartum because I was a dumbass and I really didn't know, like, babies developed.

[B]

Months.

[A]

Three months. Yeah.

[B]

You were exclusively pumping. Pretty much.

[A]

Exclusively pumping means you're not breastfeeding at all.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I, that's the thing though is like, I introduced a pump way too early because I was an idiot. I had, I had no idea. I was a first time mom.

[B]

You went into the hospital.

[A]

Oh, yeah, I forgot about that.

[B]

You're acting like you could.

[A]

I got hospitalized at two weeks postpartum.

[B]

And took antibiotics that you couldn't do any breast milk.

[A]

But somehow I had already pumped enough milk to get her for three days, which is crazy. But that's one thing that I'm like, okay, I nailed down the breast milk part. Like, did I do it seamlessly? No, but I nailed it down as like, I had a really good supply. I like, just kind of. She didn't have formula until a year now. There's nothing wrong with formula. There is nothing wrong with formula. I want to say that very clear. But as one thing, I am like, okay, I'm confident. I know how to do that. And this time around, I'm already like, I'm gonna meet with a lactation consultant and I want to exclusively breastfeed. And I am an oversupplier, which I'm so grateful to be that I'm like, oh, wow, I don't have to give. Well, this time I should really make sure I'm on top of my meds so I don't get re hospitalized.

[B]

You need to be on top of your magnesium tea.

[A]

Yeah, okay, but, but I, I think that is, that is one thing that I'm not scared of is my breastfeeding journey. And obviously you, you can plan for some things. Like the baby could have a, a tongue tie or a lip tie or tie something. I don't know. So there are things up in the air, but like, that is one thing I'm confident about, that I'm like, if I have a little bit more knowledge going in this time, like, that's one thing I'm not worried about.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What about you?

[B]

I'm just gonna take the layup answer here. Like, I kept those pumps clean, but.

[A]

I might not pump this time.

[B]

No, but I'm just saying, like, if we're just evaluating the first experience. Just a simple answer. Those pumps, I don't know what other husbands do. You never had to worry about pumps being clean.

[A]

I remember throwing that was pumps the wall one time.

[B]

Yep. And then they got cleaned.

Those pumps. It was a full on job. Much easier than everyone's gonna be like.

[A]

Oh is Ali brushing over a toxic like tendency that she just threw pumps. I didn't throw them. I didn't throw them at him. I threw him at the wall. Postpartum rage, buddy.

[B]

Yeah, we. I don't have to talk about that. The point is. Yeah, those suckers were what is one.

[A]

Thing you will absolutely not do again?

[B]

Absolutely will not do again. What do you think? What's something you don't want me to do again?

[A]

I don't think I can make that decision for you. Well maybe I think one thing I'll probably not do again is I'm not gonna introduce a bottle until like, like it'll be like a one and then like it. I, I was giving multiple bottles.

[B]

I think something that we will do together as a couple. I. We're not. I don't have a problem saying this. Like we're not cried out parents and we never will be but I think we will introduce like more of a structure when it comes to like naps and like well I feel like drowsy but away a bit of a free for all. Like I think this will be which.

[A]

We had, we had the capacity to kind of be free for all parents. Like we didn't have to wake up at 7am and go to work the next day. And a lot of parents that I feel like parents that do sleep training or cried out or Ferber method or whatever you want, they're. They have no choice but to do that because they're like I have to go to work, I have to have a routine. And, and for us we didn't really need a routine. So I want to acknowledge that. But this time I'm like for my own sanity that would be lovely to have some sort of routine. Whether that be like drowsy but awake or something that we tried the first baby.

[B]

We also didn't know how to swaddle. Let's just put that out there. We didn't know how to swaddle until she had her newborn shoe.

[A]

Why is there not a baby manual?

[B]

Well, we moved two times in your pregnant. Actually three times in your pregnancy. That's why we didn't go to any classes or anything.

[A]

But like we, we did something that we won't do again. We're not snoop parents. We're not going to do this.

[B]

We never use this. We use.

[A]

We what do you mean? We bought this new and we tried it, like, different nights. But I'm saying, like, that is something that I'm like, why did we. We are not snoop parent. Like, we just. There's nothing wrong with snoo parents again.

[B]

No, but we aren't. The second child's getting swaddled, thrown in the crib, fed.

Like, it's going to be different. We're not. Yeah, we'll have more of a routine.

[A]

The thing is, is I was scared. I was like, I don't need a routine. Like, I want my baby to be adaptable to other, like, situations. I'm like, no, I can still have a routine. Even if we're out to lunch, even if we're going for a walk in.

[B]

The morning, it's like, oh, that's one thing we'll do. This baby will take naps in the broad daylight.

[A]

Because Scotty did, didn't she?

[B]

No. Scotty definitely hit a phase where she needed to be in pitch black.

[A]

Well, there's. There's a certain phase where you do need to switch to pitch black.

[B]

But we're gonna introduce like, oh, the people are like, vacuum with your baby sleeping. Do be loud. Like, we're doing that.

[A]

6 gonna hire a marching band.

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He's talking to you, Bridges. I'm not.

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Of course he did. Right Santa?

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I don't plan on preparing for a new baby until like February You've been.

[B]

Nesting in other ways though. I've been cleaning like rampages. Like, it's. This is the thing with Ally. Ally does this thing where she won't start cleaning until like 9:30 at night.

[A]

And get a burst of energy.

[B]

Yeah. But it's not like, it's not like I'm gonna do the dishes. It's like, what room do you want to attack? And I'm like, why are we picking rooms? Like, let's sit down and watch Mormon Wives and not be cleaning the full entire House at 9:30.

[A]

I was like, steam mopping the bathroom tile. We have to hire a steamer to come and clean this.

[B]

And Isaac's like, breaking out the steam mop after 9pm is diabolical. There's no scenario where we need to be steaming anything at 9pm That's.

[A]

That is one thing that I know my postpartum period. Like, because I dealt with postpartum depression, first pregnancy or first postpartum. I know I need a very clean environment. If I have a clean environment where I can sit on a couch and there's not a bunch of dog hair and there are no dishes in the sink and I can easily throw my dishes in when I'm done using them. And it just feels like a clean environment. I feel like my mind is going to feel cleaner.

[B]

It's. Everything will be much better than last time.

[A]

We had an extension cord going from our kitchen to our bedroom.

[B]

We didn't have electricity and the heat didn't work. We had a. Literally. I don't think people take this seriously because they're like, oh my God, you guys. He played in the NFL. You guys have money, you're fine. We had space heaters. We didn't have heat in our house. We had. I went and bought like a bunch of space heaters to heat up the room. I was just hoping the temperature was accurate. I'm like, I could be 80 degrees in here or 40. I don't know what it's like.

[A]

I, I think back to the things we did postpartum. I'm like, what the frick were we doing?

[B]

Do you not remember when our water went out?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I go sleep at a hotel because, like the water and then I got.

[A]

Hospitalized the next day.

[B]

We didn't have water for days.

[A]

I remember having a 102 fever and I was like, I'm sure I'm fine.

[B]

I slept in the car with our child.

[A]

The car wasn't on.

[B]

She was two weeks. No, the car was on, it was out. It's not like we were, like, in the garage with the car on, but we slept in the car. When she was, like, less than two weeks old. When you had to go back in.

[A]

The hospital, it was for, like, an hour because I didn't know if I was gonna get admitted to the emergency room or not or, like, if they were gonna give me something and I was gonna go home. And then they were like, hey, so you're sepsis and you, like, might die? And I was like.

I was like, this is inconvenient. And I was pumping in the. Oh, my God. Everyone is like, oh, are you scared to go through postpartum depression again? I got re. Hospitalized at two weeks postpartum. I had a 102 fever. I. We moved at six weeks postpartum. We moved again at six months postpartum. No, no. And this time around, I'm not even confident that, like, I have, like, this huge village that everyone talks about that I know is very important that I've tried to build. I don't know that I have that, but I do know what the I'm doing, and I know I'm gonna take my coleys this time.

[B]

We gotta get the bowels moving this time.

[A]

Okay, buddy?

[B]

If I started stat dropping on how long you.

[A]

You don't need to.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

What is the funniest thing Scotty has done since finding out she's getting a sibling?

[B]

Oh, I don't think she fully.

[A]

Like, every time I say, do you want a brother or sister? She'll be like, a Gaga. I'm like, no, no, no, we're done. We're done with the dogs.

[B]

She goes, gaga.

[A]

I'm like, a brother. No, Gaga. I'm like, okay.

[B]

She has. She did say sister. She said sister.

[A]

She says the. Initially, when I asked her if I said brother or sister, she would say sister. But if I said sister or brother, she would say brother. And I was like, do you think.

[B]

People, based on our mannerisms of brother, sister, they know what we're having?

[A]

No, I don't think people have any idea.

[B]

Okay. I just wonder if there's, like, facial. Like. Like, what's it called? Like, I don't know what I'm. What I'm trying to think of. Like, they read body language. Body language readers.

[A]

I think that's anxiety that you're feeling right now.

[B]

I don't care. I would say the gender. I could care less. This is for you. You're the one who's like, we don't need to tell people. I'm like, I would tell Somebody tomorrow.

[A]

Okay. What are you both most excited about for the sibling dynamic?

[B]

I think that this is challenging to answer without saying the gender because a boy, girl versus girl girl. There's two totally different dynamics.

[A]

Yeah, I agree.

[B]

We can't answer this.

[A]

Well, the only thing I was gonna say is I just feel like she plays so well with other kids that I know it won't be obviously instant, but I know in a few years.

It'S going to be like, magical to see her play with another child that's in her house.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And people can read into that what they want. She has boy and girlfriends.

[B]

Yeah. She has a really good boyfriend. Nae Nae. And then she has. She's obsessed when she has a bunch of really good girlfriends and she plays well with both of them.

[A]

Does she actually have girlfriends?

[B]

I would love to announce the gender, but we're not going to.

[A]

Are you planning a baby moon or any pre baby family moments? That's something that we really need to prioritize. I feel like we're traveling a lot for, like, work. That's not a baby moon. Where we're literally going for the Olympics.

[B]

God forbid we have a job while we're there. God forbid we stay employed.

[A]

I But a baby moon for me, I think of like a virgin margarita on a beach. I don't plan.

[B]

I'm like, want to text people now. We need to plan Chileno Bay. Like, that should be our. Our baby moon tradition with friends. We can go with friends.

[A]

We should go the last week. I can travel.

[B]

We should go. Okay. I was thinking we should go right before Super Bowl.

[A]

Oh, and get a tan. That would be.

[B]

Should be our pre super bowl whatever. Okay.

[A]

No, but then we would go to Mexico and then we would go to super bowl and then we would go to Milan.

[B]

Yeah, that sounds awful.

[A]

That sounds dry. I. That's one thing during this pregnancy. I'm like, I'm a homebody right now. I want to be at home. I want to next to my daughter. I don't want to be.

[B]

Well, let's not change for the listeners. Like, we quite literally make our money. Like, probably half the money we make is from traveling.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And Ally's just like, I don't want to travel. And I'm like.

Unfortunately, that's not an option. Unfortunately, that's not in the chat at all.

[A]

I'm like, can't. I can't. You guys just like, AI me in.

[B]

It has gotten really easy to say no to traveling, though. The Berlin thing really ruined it for me because I Was gone for a week, and I was like, I will never leave my family that long again.

[A]

Well, I think in the past, we've been super, like, blessed to be able to travel with our daughter. But the older she gets, the more I'm like, this is selfish for me to want her here. Like, I would love for her to be in Vegas right now. This is one of our first work trips that we haven't taken her on. But I'm like, it's. I'm not putting my daughter in a hotel room in Vegas for four days. That sounds miserable for her.

[B]

When she was younger was fine.

[A]

Yeah. As a baby, you're like, I can bring toys and they'll look at the fan for an hour. But as a two year old, she wants to go on walks. She wants to be outside and play and go to a park. And that is just. This is not the place for her. And I know that. I can acknowledge that walking around hotels.

[B]

Would be fun for her, though. She would have.

[A]

I mean, she'd be at the slot Sheen, like, kaching, kaching, kaching.

But I do. I do really want to take a baby moon. I want to take a baby moon, though, with my daughter. There's no reason I would want to go on just a baby moon. You and me.

[B]

Chileano Bay is literally the perfect place to go.

[A]

Yeah. And they have a family pool. Maybe we would bring, like, grandparents, Like a set of grandparents or something, and we could, like, make it a family trip and then Isaac and I can still have date nights.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, they have a whole, like, kids area for, like, they have, like, activities for kids.

[A]

Yeah. They had, like, crafts and stuff. Whatever. How are you two going to keep your relationship strong during the chaotic seasons of pregnancy, holidays, football moves. Well, we're not moving anymore as of now.

[B]

No. Unless.

[A]

Unless we have a third kid, I don't think. What? Oh, unless we have a third child, I don't think we'll move. And I think we could even get away with a third child in our home for a year.

[B]

We could be in this house for literally the next 10 years if we.

[A]

I love this house. Isaac and I were literally talking last night. Like, our house isn't, like, super big. I think it's like seven.

[B]

I don't want a big house. I want to be on top of the whole family. We're all together. You don't have a choice. Scotty, get out here.

[A]

I'm not scared of our relationship. When it comes to the second baby and postpartum, I think that the first baby gets your time and your relationship kind of takes a toll because you're so inexperienced. But the second baby gets your experience and less of like independent, like complete and utter like sold time. I'm not scared when it comes to the second baby and like a relationship.

[B]

I am not either. I don't think there's a perfect answer for this. I think you have a, like, you have a different relationship when you have a child. In the same way that when you meet somebody for the first time and you date them as a, like, do I want to marry them? Who are they? How are we in a relationship? I feel like you restart your relationship when you have a child. There's a phase where you're like, what does this look like? Who are we? And I feel like.

[A]

And seeing your partner as a parent, I think is a huge change, either good or bad. We were talking about this last night at dinner.

[B]

Absolutely. Cuz they.

[A]

Yeah, we were talking about this last night at dinner.

[B]

It was brought, well, this will be quick. It was brought to the table of if you get divorced, were you ever actually in love with the person and.

[A]

Or can you get divorced and still like somebody has to love the other person more or whatever.

[B]

But the argument was if you get divorced, you never were actually in love because like, if you're in love, you would never get divorced.

[A]

Right.

[B]

We're the only people at the table that were married and have a child. And I was like, I promise you, like, if, like, if I was just an awful dad and you loved having kids and you're like, I didn't even know he was going to be such a bad dad.

[A]

If, if you were a horrible parent, I would have no problem divorcing you.

[B]

Yeah. So that's what I'm saying. Like you can fully be in love with somebody and then you're like, wait, I did not know you said about that. Point is, it's, you're living multiple.

[A]

Oh my God. If you were like, if you didn't like being a dad, that would be so disgusting to me.

[B]

It would be gross.

[A]

You even like having to, I don't know, like, I feel like if I ever had to ask you to do something for our daughter and you made me feel like it was inconvenient or like burden.

I don't think I would be with you.

[B]

Yeah, it just doesn't work. It doesn't work.

[A]

That's the thing though is like when you're dating somebody and they're not responding to your text message, like, do you think that they're going to be up at 3am with you when your nipples are bleeding and you're like, can you change the diaper? I'm fully capable. But, like, can you do it?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If he's not texting you back, don't text him back.

[B]

Tough example there with text backs and babies. But the point is you. You live multiple lives when you're married, have children. So I don't think it's going to change our relationship. I just think we're still in a building phase of our relationship in this new life.

[A]

We all always will be, right? Relationships are always changing.

[B]

Yeah, absolutely. But I'm just saying, like, it's just always. It's always evolving.

But yeah, I'm not really worried about the second kid. I mean, we'll just have less time to do like, date nights and stuff. Like, that's going to be now.

[A]

We already have babysitters. Like, we already have, like, our village of people that we trust. So, like, if we know, like, okay, the baby's gonna be going down at 7, like, we can escape for two hours and go and sit in the in and out, drive through. I think that'll be easier.

[B]

Where.

[A]

I didn't let somebody watch Scotty without me in the house until like a year and a half.

[B]

Yeah, it was a while. It was a while.

[A]

Anyways, that's it for this episode. I'm sure, like, as this pregnancy progresses, maybe we'll do more of these and if anything changes. But thank you guys so much for tuning in to Sunday Sports Club Podcast. I hope you enjoyed. Be sure to tune in every Sunday wherever you get your podcasts and on YouTube. And thanks for listening. See you next Sunday.

[B]

Bye.

[A]

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