Giving birth during football season, taking OBs to the Super Bowl, navigating retirement with guest Kylie Kelce

Summary

Sunday Sports Club Podcast Summary

Episode Title: Giving Birth During Football Season, Taking OBs to the Super Bowl, Navigating Retirement with Guest Kylie Kelce
Host: Allison Kuch
Guest: Kylie Kelce
Release Date: January 12, 2025

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1. Welcome and Introduction

Allison Kuch welcomes Kylie Kelce to the Sunday Sports Club. The conversation kicks off with a friendly exchange about managing a household filled with children.

Notable Quote:

"We're having fun, aren't we?" – Kylie Kelce [00:39]
"No, I'm terrified. My husband's like, maybe we should just stick with one." – Allison Kuch [00:41]

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2. Balancing Parenthood with a Sports Career

Kylie shares her experiences of juggling motherhood while her husband, Isaac Kelce, progresses in his NFL career. With three children in the household and the addition of a nanny, Kylie discusses the dynamics and challenges of a bustling family life.

Notable Quote:

"Every time I've had another kid, I've had this moment before the next baby comes, where I ask myself, is this the right thing?" – Kylie Kelce [00:34]
"Sometimes I'll be like, hands deep in making dinner or doing the dishes... You don't have to raise your sisters." – Kylie Kelce [03:00]

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3. Importance of Self-Care for Moms

The conversation emphasizes the significance of self-care for mothers. Kylie explains her methods for finding personal time amidst her busy schedule, highlighting simple yet effective strategies like taking solitary coffee breaks.

Notable Quote:

"My go-to escape will be to go and get coffee by myself because it's such a simple thing to do." – Kylie Kelce [04:16]
"Even if we're in the house and our nanny is here, if I am in proximity to my children, they will come and ask me things." – Kylie Kelce [06:35]

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4. Personal Journey: Education and Athletic Pursuits

Kylie delves into her background, growing up near Philadelphia, her passion for field hockey, and her path through community college to Cabrini University. Her dedication to sports and education shaped her into the person she is today.

Notable Quote:

"I played field hockey from when I was going into, I think, third grade... I absolutely loved it. It has helped shape me even more into the person I am today." – Kylie Kelce [21:40]

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5. Meeting Her Husband: A Playful Tale

Kylie recounts the amusing story of how she met Isaac Kelce through a series of unexpected events on Tinder. Their initial interactions were filled with humor and skepticism, ultimately leading to a meaningful relationship.

Notable Quote:

"I sent him a pickup line. I said, 'I've fallen. I need a life alert. I've fallen for you and I can't get up.'" – Kylie Kelce [27:58]
"It was one of those moments where you're like, do we really just talk for three hours?" – Kylie Kelce [31:52]

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6. Engagement Story: A Unique Proposal

The episode highlights the unconventional way Isaac proposed to Kylie during a mundane trip, emphasizing their unique bond and the absence of typical romantic gestures.

Notable Quote:

"The minute the door closes, he turns and he says, 'This isn't the most romantic way to do this, but I need you to get out of the truck.'" – Kylie Kelce [37:47]
"He knows this was a romantic moment, I was like, got it immediately started crying." – Kylie Kelce [39:39]

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7. Navigating Childbirth During Football Season

Kylie discusses the logistical and emotional challenges of giving birth while football season is in full swing. She shares her proactive measures to ensure a smooth childbirth process despite the NFL schedule.

Notable Quote:

"What happens if you go into labor on game day? I'm not telling you. I'll tell you when you're done." – Kylie Kelce [63:21]
"He was there the day that I gave birth. He slept well. I showed up." – Kylie Kelce [64:59]

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8. Experiences with Breastfeeding and Pumping

The dialogue covers the struggles and triumphs of breastfeeding, with Kylie opening up about her challenges and the societal pressures surrounding motherhood and lactation.

Notable Quote:

"You're taking shots, you're basically forcing your body into a cycle... it's just injecting hormones and other things." – Kylie Kelce [77:18]
"Having experienced a loss before Wyatt has made me very realistic on being grateful about just being able to get pregnant." – Kylie Kelce [79:07]

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9. Kylie's Podcast and Its Mission

Kylie introduces her own podcast, NGL with Kylie, emphasizing its focus on honest conversations about motherhood, postpartum depression, and the unspoken challenges women face.

Notable Quote:

"I want the women who need to hear about you getting your pink back to be able to hear about you getting your pink back." – Kylie Kelce [80:16]
"We need to have these conversations like you openly talking about postpartum depression... we need to hear about it to validate our own experiences." – Allison Kuch [82:12]

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10. Closing Thoughts and Future Plans

As the episode winds down, Kylie and Allison reflect on their shared experiences and express mutual admiration. Kylie discusses the future direction of her podcast, aiming to reach and support more women through candid and relatable conversations.

Notable Quote:

"Our podcasts are meant for... conversations that we're all experiencing." – Kylie Kelce [82:12]
"It's beautiful. We need to normalize it." – Allison Kuch [83:38]

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Conclusion

In this heartfelt episode of Sunday Sports Club, Allison Kuch and Kylie Kelce delve deep into the realities of balancing motherhood with the demands of a professional sports career. From managing multiple children and ensuring self-care to navigating the complexities of childbirth during football season, their candid dialogue offers a refreshing and relatable perspective for listeners. Kylie's dedication to fostering open conversations about the unspoken challenges of motherhood underscores the podcast's mission to create a supportive community for women everywhere.

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Transcript

[A]

The following podcast is a Dear Media.

[B]

Production Kylie, welcome to Sunday Sports Club. I'm so excited to have you on. And to me, yeah, it was fun being on your podcast, but now I get to ask all the questions, so I hope you're ready.

[A]

I hope I have interesting answers.

[B]

Of course you do. So, first off, I have to say I have a friend currently staying with me, and she has her two boys, so we currently have three kids in the house. And you currently have three kids in the house?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

How. How are you? How do you juggle all of that?

[A]

We're having fun, aren't we?

[B]

No, I'm terrified. My husband's like, maybe we should just stick with one.

[A]

You know, every time I've had another kid, I've had this moment before the next baby comes, where I ask myself, is this the right thing? Am I doing the right. Did I make the right choice? Because you just. You settle into this comfort zone and all of a sudden you're like, oh, we are about to, like, close the lid, shake up the box, and, like, hope everything's still intact when we get through this newborn phase. It is. It's so interesting. And also, I know that you've. You've said this before, but about, like, I think recently you said about not knowing how to, like, have enough love for another kid.

[B]

I already don't like my next kid.

[A]

I. I felt that so hard with our first, and our first was a difficult sleeper. She. I swear, sleep deprivation is, like, the worst form of torture. And I still, at the end of the day, was like, what am I doing? And I was leaving for the induction, and I picked her up to, like, say goodnight to her, and it was the first time ever that she voluntarily kissed me on the cheek. And it was one of those moments where I thought, oh, this is the universe telling me it's going to be okay. And it turns out they were the best of friends. They love having a sister. They fight and bicker, but they love having a sister. And it is so clear that they are enriching each other's lives.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

And then the third came along, and it was just full zone coverage at all times, even when both parents are home. Sheer chaos. And she's ridiculous, just. And the perfect addition. So I'm hoping that number four will be similar. But jury's still out. We'll find out.

[B]

I mean, honestly, your oldest is old enough that I feel like she can, you know, step in every once in a while.

[A]

Oh, absolutely. I. Sometimes I'll be like, hands deep in making dinner or doing the dishes. And of course, we were put on this earth as mothers to open snacks and fill water bottles. I don't know if you know that you. It's. It's our duty. And I will send her sisters to her to say, oh, can you please go ask Wyatt nicely if she will open your snack for you? Because mom's hands are busy. So I already put Wyatt to work. And she's very sweet about. I always tell her after the fact, I say I'm so. I really appreciate that you opened that for your sister. That was very kind because I don't ever want her to feel like it's her obligation either. Like, you don't have to raise your sisters. You're a kid. You can say, this was my choice. I did this.

[B]

Yeah, this is, this is mom and Dad's decision. But with a full house and another one on the way, we talked about, like, me finding my paint, getting my pink back when I came on your show. And so are you finding time for yourself? Like, how are you finding time for yourself if you are, Are you doing to just, like, take a. Take a second?

[A]

Well, I will say I blink toys if you're okay. I, I, I sort of go through phases when a baby, a true baby, is still in the house. My go to escape will be to go and get coffee by myself because it's such a simple thing to do. I will go and get coffee and sit, come back, pull in the driveway, sit for five minutes in the car, drink my coffee so that I'm not running the risk of dumping it on myself when I get bopped in the arm. But having that alone is a fresh start to the day because I get to be by myself. And I think that as much mom guilt is associated with removing yourself from your children. It is so important to step away, because even if we have. I always call her babysitter, but she's technically a nanny. She's with us five days a week, most weeks. Sometimes my schedule varies where I just won't have her come on certain days. But she's been with us for the last three years. The girls don't cry when I leave. They're excited that she's there. And I know that we've had enough discussion, that she is holding them to the same standards that I hold them to, that they are going to say please and thank you, that if something goes terribly awry or someone's having a bad day when I get back, it's not just going to be rainbows and Butterflies. She'll say, like, ellie's feeling demanding today. And I'll be like, thank you so much for the warning. So I think it's. That was a huge step in being able to step away. But even if I'm in the house and Lauren, our nanny, is in the house, or my mom is in the house, or my husband's in the house, no matter what, if I am in proximity to my children, they will come and ask me things. Will you open the snack? Will you fill this water bottle? What are we eating next?

[B]

Right.

[A]

It's just so I know that I have to physically remove myself to some degree when there is an infant, like a newborn in the house. I was once told by a maternity nurse, like a recovery nurse in labor and delivery, that you should prioritize showering every day. Then it might be the only five minutes you get to yourself. And I have really tried to take that to heart when I come home and am in recovery phase.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because sometimes it really is the only time you do not have a baby touching you.

[B]

Totally.

[A]

And the idea of being touched out. Very real.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Very, very real.

[B]

I. I exclusively pumped for the past year.

[A]

And I bow down to you.

[B]

Everybody said, like, when I first. I think it was like, in month two or three of, like, exclusively pumping. And I told some of my friends, they're like, are you okay? And I was like, okay. So I'm allowed to feel this way. But the touching thing, the touching. I made it a rule that my husband is not allowed to touch me when I have my palms on. Don't touch my shoulder, don't touch my foot. Don't even like me.

[A]

Exactly. Don't even sit demair. Don't breathe near me.

[B]

Because the feeling of being touched and like, you're touched all day. And I'm sure now that, like, when you have children, toddlers, young kids, it's so real that I think taking time to yourself, even grabbing a cup of coffee, going and doing something, even just this is so underrated. But going and sitting in a quiet room when it's quiet.

[A]

Oh, absolutely. I will. Just the opportunity to sit and be with your own thoughts. Like, there are times where I drive to get coffee, and I realize that I have put absolutely nothing on the car the entire drive. So I will. I will get all the way back home, 20 minutes, 10 minutes there, 10 minutes back, and realize that I have been sitting in silence for 20 minutes. The only sound I have experienced is when I went in to get the coffee. And it is just to Decompress fully. Yeah, I, I think that there's those little things. Right. Go to get coffee, take a shower. But then there's also like allowing yourself to do things like take a trip.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Spend a night away, if that's possible for you. I know there were times during my breastfeeding journey that that wasn't realistic.

[B]

Right.

[A]

For someone else watching that, like my mom watches them if we go out of town or it's overnight. But there are times where it's not realistic. If it is, you should do that. And you shouldn't feel guilty about wanting to go on trips without your kids. That's something that we've come to realize because of how busy we've been recently.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There are certain places that aren't meant for a 5, 3 and a 1 year old.

[B]

Totally.

[A]

And I'm okay acknowledging that. And I also don't ever want to set my kids up for failure in a way where I have an expectation of them to behave a certain way or to go somewhere where they're going to have jet lag or to like, I barely take our kids to restaurants because they're at an age where even at our own house food ends up. So much food ends up on the floor. I don't need to have an expectation of you that you're going to suddenly go into a restaurant and be like, I'm going to mind my P's and Q's and now I know etiquette. Mom doesn't even know etiquette. So we're going to, we're going to take a pause there.

[B]

And I think I feel like I have a lot of new mom or like young mom listeners. And I always talk about how initially I had no plan to have any help because I was like, oh, like I feel guilty. I work from home. I, I don't like the idea of having help and I don't live near any family. So like everybody talks about this village that you need to help raise kids. I'm like, I don't have a village. I, I barely have friends in the city I live in because of football. And so we tried not doing babysitter, nanny. And I quickly was humbled. I was like, why do I feel like so drained? And it was because I was never taking time for myself. And it's the craziest thing I've ever heard is that it's sad that a dad taking time for himself and a mom taking time for herself are different because the mom's is usually self care, like, oh, I need to Go get my hair done. I need to get my nails and oh, I want to take a shower. Whereas the guys is like, oh, I'm going to go golf or oh, I'm going to go and catch a game of the guys. So it's like self care should just be like basic. That's like basic human care. And I think that that's so sad. But hopefully, hopefully women could like find like podcasts like yours or mine and like find of a voice outside of like being a mom. And it's totally okay to like, be selfish. And I think that's something I'm starting to realize is that me going on a trip is like, it's a good thing you can't pour from an empty cup. Right?

[A]

But aren't you, don't you feel that you can be a better mom when you take those moments for yourself? Because I truly find that on the days where I go and do something that either I want to do or even just like going to do something work related.

[B]

Mm.

[A]

Getting out of the house, interacting with other adults, not having every conversation interrupted with mom, mom, mom, mom, mom. Can I tell you something? It is, it is refreshing in a way that when I get back in the house, I have so much more patience. I have the energy. I want to know about their day. Like, it gives the opportunity to, to miss each other. And then it's not. We can sit down at the dinner table and we talk about what happened at school that day. What did you do with Lauren? What did you do outside? And it is, it's, it's such a better experience for everyone.

[B]

Absolutely. I, I totally agree. I feel like it's taking a step away, allowing me to, like, fill up my cup, like socially just doing something that I might enjoy. And then when I come home, I'm like, oh, I'm like, revitalized. Like, I'm like back. I'm more patient, I'm more kinder to my husband. Like, yes, you should give me every night to go and do something. If you guys are listening to this episode when it is released, just know that I'm currently in a very tropical place. I'm in a bikini. It's my first trip in my postpartum body and I'm feeling, you know, good about it. But at the same time, like, I, I have dealt with bloating before I was pregnant, and now that I'm postpartum, I feel a little self conscious about my body. This is my first trip being in, in a bikini in my postpartum body. And you guys want to know what I'm absolutely packing before I go? My JS Health vitamins, their detox and debloat. I have been taking these on and off for the past few years and I truly love them. 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So right now at Macy's they have 30 to 60% off bed and bath, 15 to 60% off kitchen, 40 to 60% off dining. The event dates are January 14th to January 15th. With it being winter, I'm spending a lot more time inside, a lot more time on my couch and also a lot more time in my bed. Whether that's reading, watching a movie, just getting cozy midday with my daughter. And I know that some new bedding from Macy's will definitely help. So be sure to shop in store at Macy's or you can also shop online@macy's.com that's M A C Y S dot com. Again, the event dates are January 14th to January 15th. It's their home today sale. So before, before you had three, almost four children. Let's take it all the way back. I'm gonna act like I know nothing about you or how you met your husband or anything. So where did you grow up? Like, give me like the quick rundown of.

[A]

Okay, I gosh, I grew up out just outside of Philadelphia. I was in a school district. I ended up in a school district that I probably shouldn't have been in the demographic of. I was going to school with kids who had dual lawyer, dual doctor, households of parents. And I am the daughter of a union electrician and a principal secretary from, in a public school.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So I was batting in a different tax bracket that I did not belong in. But it was I had an excellent education. I'm super grateful that my parents were able to put us in that situation. I played field hockey from when I was going into, I think third grade. I did camps and then seventh grade on. I played it year round until I was 19. When I graduated from high school, I was not ready to go to a four year college. I'm also a massive homebody. So even if I was going to start a four year college right out of high school, I don't think I would have strayed far from home anyway. But I went to community college for three years. I coached field hockey. I was originally a sports, health and PE major. I swore I wanted to be a PE teacher that didn't end up panning out because I realized there's only one per school and they never leave. So no. And it's because they've cracked the code. You get paid to play all day. Yep. I respect it. And then after three years of community college, I was so desperate to get back on a field hockey field that I emailed probably eight coaches in the Philadelphia area just to say, do you want to take a chance on a 21 year old freshman transfer? Maybe and only yeah, please can I wear your jersey? Only one coach answered me and it was the coach at Cabrini, which is where I ended up, which is 20 minutes from my house. I commuted for three of my four years there. The only year I lived on campus I was an RA so that I didn't have to pay room and board because I was super careful about the loans that I was taking out. And I went there as a communication major. So I knew I wasn't going to be sort of set for life in my first job out of college. Yeah, the way some other majors are excelling. And I ended up playing all four years of field hockey. Absolutely loved it. It has helped shape me even more into the person I am today. And then as soon as I graduated, I went back to coaching. I got a job in education because you know, that makes sense when you just got your bachelor's in communications. And I was, I was working as a one to one with special needs students. So it was something that every single day was different. It was probably my dream job. Now looking back, I absolutely love it. I've told people so many times that once my kids are school age I would consider going back and doing the exact same thing because I loved it that much. And I met Jason on Tinder while I was still in college, which was hilarious.

[B]

Not Tinder.

[A]

Wait. The year that I Was an ra was the year that we know. The year we met was the year before I was an ra, I think. And he would come to campus and, like, he stayed over in my dorm more than once. Sorry, Mom. Actually, mom won't care. Sorry, dad. Okay.

[B]

Was he playing for the Eagles at that time?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And he's just totally.

[A]

Like. When I tell you I would have people in class two days later say, oh, so. And so. Was talking about how they were walking to their 8am and told Jason Kelsey walking across campus to go to his truck. And I was just like, oh, God, this man must really love me. Because why the hell else would he be on it?

[B]

I. I mean, not him getting on, like, one of those, like, rentable bikes and just being like, you know what? I have a few minutes before I gotta get somewhere.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, no, it's fine. Yeah, but that's. I would say that about sums it up. Then. Jason and I dated for.

[B]

Was it love at first swipe?

[A]

Oh, God. Well, he felt. When we first met, I. When we first matched, I did not know who he was. He didn't have any pictures that indicated that he was with the Eagles, so. Or that he was a football player. The best part is of, like, him at tailgates, like, shirtless. You're like, exactly what you think they are.

[B]

That's mine.

[A]

But he. So I have always. I've always been tall.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And like, into sports. And so when my type was very much like men. Larger than me.

[B]

Absolutely. Absolutely.

[A]

I. I just feel like as tall women, we deserve to feel small.

[B]

Like.

[A]

Yeah. Dainty.

[B]

Yes. And I'm not going to get that with somebody who weighs only 50 pounds more than me.

[A]

No. Not even a little bit. So I saw his pictures and I was like, he's cute and he looks like. Like he could, like, pick me up. So we matched and I, at the time, my friends and I would sit in our college apartment on campus. It would be like six of us, and we would all be swiping at the same time and we would swipe yes to the same people so that we could play off of what each other's conversations were like. We genuinely did it just to fuck with people.

[B]

Yeah. That sounds like a game. That sounds like fun.

[A]

We were not on there.

[B]

Let's play the game.

[A]

Exactly. So it ended up we were just messing around. So I swiped right. We matched. I sent him a pickup line. I said, I fallen. I need life alert. I've fallen for you and I can't get up.

[B]

Wait, he said that or you said that?

[A]

I said that. I said that. And he messaged back and was like, no. Like, that's. You got to try harder. And so I said, this is so bad. I really. I. Man, I. I limit how many people I tell this to. So this is. This is privilege information. I then messaged, if I told you I work for ups, would you let me handle your package?

[B]

Kylie, shut the up.

[A]

And he was like, your dad might.

[B]

Want to listen to this episode.

[A]

I know. He was like, much better. I like that one a lot. It's so bad.

[B]

Why do I feel like when I picture an O lineman, like, that's a pickup line. That would actually work.

[A]

It did.

[B]

And here you are.

[A]

And here we are almost four kids later. The best part was is that his profile bio on Tinder was that he wanted to cuddle and have intimate conversations about having babies. And it was sarcastic, but ended up being very ironic. Very ironic.

[B]

It's like, I'm looking for someone to build a football team with, and you're like a woman.

[A]

Flag football. Female women.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Got it. Yeah. So that. And then that was once. Well, once we started talking that way. So beautiful. You should be really amazing about this. It's so bad. But then we continued messaging, and it was just like, playful. Get to know you. And after a little while, I kept thinking to myself that he looked like his photos looked familiar. So we Googled with all the information we had, and we figured out that the photos were of a Philadelphia Eagle. So my friends and I, of course, were like, it's Catfish, right? It's not actually him. And so when he said, you should meet us out at this bar, my one friend and I who's like, sort of the. My ride or die friend, where she's. The friend where you're like, I have to go bury this body. And she'll be like, I'll bring two shovels. Yeah.

[B]

She was like, anymore? I don't want this.

[A]

She was like, well, we have to go, because if it's him, it's hilarious. If it's not him, it's even funnier. And I was like, that's a great point. Let's go. And then we went down to the bar, and we walked in, and we were like, oh, that's him. He was so inebriated, he fell asleep 45 minutes later on the bar table, like, just out.

[B]

What a first impression.

[A]

I know. And the next day, he messaged me. I was like, I'm so sorry. Can we try that again? And I think I hesitated a little, but I was like, sure. Because our con. Our conversation leading up to it was great. It was great banter. Yeah. And so we met up at another bar a few nights later and we talked for, I want to say, three hours. In the bar.

[B]

That kind of like, that's the sign.

[A]

It was one of those moments where you're like, do we really just talk for three hours? Like, three whole hours in a bar where you can barely hear yourself speak. It was just one of those moments where you're like, ah, shit, what did I do? And then we were. We started hanging out sporadically. Actually. A couple days later, he asked if I wanted to get. If I wanted to go to the Mutter Museum.

[B]

I don't know what that is.

[A]

You're lucky. It is actually a museum in Philadelphia of medical oddities.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

It is. It is basically a bunch of, like, jars.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Jars of, like. This sounds so gross. It is gross.

[B]

It's you just body parts.

[A]

Jars, jars of body parts, like in formaldehyde, like it has preserved. Yep. It was.

[B]

You guys have the most.

[A]

He had never been. I was like, if he can get.

[B]

Through this, this story, I swear to.

[A]

God, this is how, you know we were meant for each other. When I told him we were going to go to a museum for medical oddities, like, he was. He was gung ho. He was in.

[B]

He was like, I think I just met my wife.

[A]

Well, the craziest part is, is that when we were done, I was pulling up, like, letting him out at his apartment, and he said, oh, by the way, I'm leaving tomorrow for a 10 day trip to Thailand, and I don't think that I'll be able to contact you because I'll be in Thailand. I don't know if the international plan will work well there. And the whole time he's talking, I was like, this is the most elaborate way to say that you never want to see me again. This is ridiculous. And so I just let it go. I was like, okay, you aren't interested, right? 10 days is crazy.

[B]

You could have just let me down easy.

[A]

But I was like, you could have just been like, I'm gonna stop answering your text messages. But no, you were like, I'm going to Thailand for 10 days. And at some point during the trip, I think was like, day six, he sent me a picture of a monkey on a beach thinking of you. It's like, oh, oh. He actually went to Thailand. And that was the moment where I was like, okay, this guy's not playing games.

[B]

This guy is a straight shooter.

[A]

Like, it was weird. And then after he got back, we started hanging out consistently. It was one of those where we would hang out one day and three days would pass. We would see each other again. And then a month or two went by and it was, oh, are we gonna hang out back to back days?

[B]

True.

[A]

And yeah. And then you're just like, this is not. If. If you're not feeling the same as me. This is terrible. It turns out we were on the same page, so it's fine.

[B]

So then how long between meeting to him proposing? Also, I need to. Now that I know the full how you guys met story, I need. I need to know how he proposed.

[A]

Oh. Oh, God. His proposal fit us perfectly. We dated. I believe it was three years before he proposed. It was a week in a training camp. So I was fully convinced that we were not getting engaged for another year. Because you know how football goes. Once football starts, it's football. There is nothing else. Nothing else exists to the world. It is football.

[B]

I'm glad that's a common experience amongst other women.

[A]

Oh, yes.

[B]

Dating NFL players. Because I fully knew that if it doesn't happen over the off season, it's not happening.

[A]

I firmly believed that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we. His first off day, went out to my parents house, took the dog during training camp. During training camp, they would have one off day a week. So we went out for like Sunday dinner with my parents, and we had a whole dinner, hung out for a while. Our dog loved to play with my parents dog, which was part of the reason why we would go out there. And we get. We go outside, we get in the car, the dog's in the car, everyone's. We're ready to leave. And Jason turns and is like, I gotta run back in. And I said, okay. What? Really?

[B]

This is.

[A]

This is time you have to take a shit.

[B]

I was gonna say, are you going potty?

[A]

Literally. He was like, I gotta go to the bathroom. And I was like, okay, but do me a favor. Like, just like, hurry up. Because dogs limit time. Needless to say, he goes in, unbeknownst to me, was asking my parents permission to ask me marry him. And so he comes out, he's like.

[B]

She'S not going to bother me during this time.

[A]

Wait. He comes out less than five minutes later. I know my husband. That wasn't enough time to take a shit. So he gets back in the car. And I straight up said, go back in there and finish your business. Go back in. We are not stopping on the way home for you to pull over to A gas station or Wawa to take shit, go back in and go to the bathroom. And he was like, no, I'm. I'm good. At that time, my sister pulls up behind us. She gets out of the car, she comes up to the window, she's talking to us. And I said, just go back in with Aubrey. Go take a. This is not that big of an Aubrey. He needs to go in the house and take a. And she's like, come in and take a. The whole time he's just silent and fidgeting. He's like, I don't need to take a. And my sister goes and walks in the house. And the minute the door closes, he turns and he says, this isn't the most romantic way to do this, but I need you to get out of the truck. And as soon as he said romantic, I knew immediately what was happening. Because romance is not something this man is well versed. And the fact that he knew this was a romantic moment, I was like, got it. Immediately started crying. I blacked out. I have no idea what this man said to me. I'm pretty sure he asked me to marry him. I'm not 100% sure, but there was a ring involved and I put it on. Yep. I know. I said yes. I know that. No, we got out. So it was in your parents house? It was right on the front lawn of my parents house.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

There is no photo evidence, no video evidence. And honestly, he nailed that part.

[B]

I was gonna. Okay, so you liked that?

[A]

Yes. I am not. I really. I don't like having attention on me. So when it was just the two of us and it was a private moment, it was perfect. When I would see other people get engaged and it was this big public display, I would have secondhand anxiety of. Oh, God. I can't imagine, first of all, feeling that many emotions with that many eyes on you. I'm not built for that.

[B]

So I never wanted a public engagement, that's for sure. Because it's a lot of pressure.

[A]

Isn't it, though? It's almost like opening a gift in front of someone and you're expected to have a certain reaction.

[B]

I hate opening gifts in front of other people.

[A]

Not my cup of tea.

[B]

I don't know how to say thank you.

[A]

I don't know how to tell someone that I like it and be convincing even when I like it.

[B]

Yes. Yes.

[A]

Which is the strangest phenomenon. Like I open something and I get excited about it and then my body starts to shut down and my face melts and then I'M like, I don't know how to make emotions now.

[B]

Thank you. I think.

[A]

Yes. I appreciate this a lot.

[B]

Was he planning to propose at that moment or was it kind of forced because you kept asking him to take.

[A]

A. I think he was like, all right. Or get off the pot. I. I think that his intention when he went back in to ask my parents was to ask my parents and then come back out and ask me. Oh. I don't think that he thought I was going to be so suspicious about the short amount of time he was in the house. So I did feel a little guilty about the fact that it was a whole conversation about taking a shit leading.

[B]

Up to the engagement.

[A]

Yes. But that's what happens when, you know your husband is a minimum 15 minute kind of guy.

[B]

Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure now I. With social media, like, those 15 minutes evolve.

[A]

Oh, it's children. There are times where he's in quiet. Yeah. Will be hitting the fan. Pun intended. And I'll stand up and be like, I'm going to the bathroom.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And gone for 30. I mean, 30 minutes. And I don't even. The funny thing is, I don't even blame him. I don't. You know what? You save yourself.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Have at it.

[B]

Exactly. It's funny that you made the comment about proposing before, like, football season started, because I fully. A week before training camp and a week before my husband ended up proposing. I was in the car, we were driving to a friend's house because she had just gotten engaged and it was a teammate and it was literally the entire team was there and we were driving and I was like, oh, that's funny, because training camp starts in five days and I don't have a ring on my finger. And I was like, what the fuck? Like, honestly. Also, we had been dating years, so I feel like what the fuck was granted appropriate. And in January, he had told me like, oh, it's coming this off season. And I was like, this off season's it's ending and we have no coming up plans. This man proposed the day before training camp.

[A]

Yes. But isn't that funny that our brains equated it to, oh, it's the off season or nothing?

[B]

Actually, like, there's a 0% chance it was happening during football season.

[A]

I'm pretty sure two days after he, like, left for training camp. I do think I had a cry of, oh. I really thought, like. And we had only been dating three years. I was not. I was very much. I very much wanted to get engaged because we had had so much conversation about it. It wasn't just like, oh, I'm delusional, and I think he wants to marry me. Like, we had had so many conversations about, like, our life and planning our future together, and it's like, well, I thought we were gonna nothing. So it. It is funny how that, like, training camp hits and it's like, well, another year.

[B]

Another year. I fully isa Isaac and I fully split rent. A lot of people. I feel like I've talked about this a little bit. We used. We split rent all the way up until we were engaged. Except he told me in January, okay, I think I'm going to propose this off season. So I was like, okay, it gets to around April, and I'm like, I'm going on strike. I am no longer paying rent. You either put the ring on my finger or you will not see another dime of mine. And a lot of people find that to be funny. They're like, oh, so you forced him to propose? I'm like, yeah, I did.

[A]

I was like, if you're not saving half of the rent to buy me a ring, then why the are we.

[B]

Doing this if my rent isn't going into a different bank account or something shiny?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

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[A]

Jason has no first cousins.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So I don't know why I thought.

[B]

That he would come from a big family.

[A]

Well, it's funny because his family, the four of them are very close. And then his mom has only one brother and his dad has only one sister. That is it. They had some cousins that were like cousins by marriage, but they were not related. So he has no first cousins. We had, I want to say, like 150 people.

[B]

Oh, that's not huge.

[A]

I would have been, I was very much the person, again, who did not want all eyes on me. So I would have been the person that would have potentially eloped.

[B]

You're like, do I have to stand at the altar during the wedding when.

[A]

I tell you, the fear in my soul about walking down the aisle and having all eyes on me was so overwhelming that I still remember the moment. And if this wasn't the exact, like, storybook, this is how when, you know, you know, I walked to the doors, our wedding planner opened, like, told me to step up. The doors open and I'm shaking. Like, my knees are trembling. And I look down the aisle. It's sort of like a convoluted path. But I look and he is standing there just like, waiting for me. And I was like, oh, I can get there now. Like, it was like I could breathe because I could see him. And I was like, oh, I can get to him.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that was very much, I mean, validation. Not that that would be the time where I'd be like, well, I'm still nervous, so I'm not coming. Hold on.

[B]

I need to think about it for a second.

[A]

But, yeah, it was. We did not have a huge wedding. We had close friends and family there. We did have a wedding planner, because that's not my forte. No, by any means. The people who plan a wedding on their own. I am no. Fascinated.

[B]

No. I tell everybody and my daughter's first birthday alone, and it was not, like, overdone. It was simple, cutesy.

[A]

And I, by the way, boob cake. Great move, Isaac. Great move. Outstanding.

[B]

I was. I think that was him being like, hey, thank you. Can we have another kid? That's what I was getting.

[A]

He was like, look how much I appreciate you because. Do it again.

[B]

My boobs do not look like that. So I think he was complimenting me and thanking me at the same time as, like, a gentle nudge.

[A]

Whose boobs look anything like they used to after you breastfeed a child?

[B]

My nipples do not look like that.

[A]

I mean, all around when. When you are. I mean, will you are. Are you now? No longer. This is an intrusive question, so feel free to not include this.

[B]

I'm an open book.

[A]

Are you still pumping now or you're done?

[B]

I. I officially put the pumps away.

[A]

Congratulations.

[B]

Yeah. I wait. I had the goal of a year, made it to a year, and yes, I am done.

[A]

My goal is always six months, and.

[B]

That'S an incredible goal.

[A]

I think anything after that, I will do it until I decide I want my body back. And I've hit eight months. I think for every child, there's a.

[B]

Lot of guilt around it. I wasn't. I wasn't ready for the guilt of it.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And then you have like, a community online that's like, oh, like, fed is best, but.

[A]

And I'm like, doesn't it seem like the people who are not the fedest. Best people. The breast is best people. They're louder, they are loud and aggressive.

[B]

I'm like, scared of them.

[A]

No.

[B]

And so when I, like, I think it was. She was three months old when she just stopped latching. And I was like, well, I could try pumping. And then just kind of did it. It just kind of happened. And then I look up and I'm like, oh.

[A]

I always say my sister exclusively pumped for her kids as well. And I always say, I bow down to you. Like, I just. The idea that this is so type B of me, the idea of having to clean the pump parts, that's where puts Me in a coma.

[B]

Okay. So that's where I privilege comes in, because I did not. The Isaac part. Isaac's. I mean, yes, I'm privileged to have a husband. He. I made a goal or a plan, and I said, if I am pumping, you are in charge of always cleaning them.

[A]

Okay, that's outstanding. Did it hold up?

[B]

This man went on Amazon, and when I tell you spent so much, probably the price of formula on extra pump parts so that he only had to clean pump parts once a day.

[A]

I tried that. You're cheating. I did try that. Yeah. I. Cleaning pump parts. Even the thought of it, it's kind of making me tear up right now. The thought of it makes me want to. And you have to make sure you.

[B]

Put them on, right?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Because I have pumped for 30 minutes, and I look down and I'm like, why is there no milk? And a part's missing.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah. So I would. I would not recommend that, but it has shown me that, like, I'm strong and, like, I can, like, do things that I definitely didn't think I could once do.

[A]

Yes. So Scotty latched for the first three months and then just stopped. She just decided. She was like, that's not for me.

[B]

Yeah, it's to. It's.

[A]

I love that.

[B]

Totally. Though, I think it's honestly my fault because I. I didn't know what I didn't know. I was so worried about the birth process because we were in Vegas when he was. When I was pregnant. Finding a doctor, finding an OB gyn, like, who is going to birth my child? And what does that look like? And then he lost his job. So then I was worried about that. And I never did any research for. For breastfeeding or pumping or anything. So I literally was just, like, winging it. So at my. Like, at Scotty's first pediatrician appointment, they were like, oh, how. How are you doing? And I was like, well, my nipples are bleeding, and they're like, oh, try pumping instead. And I was like, oh. Not knowing that, like, introducing a bottle that early on might affect her latching and all that. So I honestly do kind of take a little bit of responsibility for that. And I think that's why I was so hard on myself to make it to a year of pumping, because I was like, I don't have control of a lot, but I do have control of this.

[A]

I do think there's also my experience with breastfeeding are. First, specifically because she wasn't a chubby baby. Like, she didn't fatten up In a way that my brain said, she's well fed.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And the number of times I asked our pediatrician, well, how do I know? Because I was exclusively breastfeeding, I did not have the supply to pump. So the Itty Bitty Titty committee came through. They were like, we'll do the bare minimum and give you no extra.

[B]

And which is so tough because then how do you leave your house?

[A]

And that's it. And I just kept asking him, and he kept saying, how many wet diapers? And do you see that she's still on track for weight? And I'm like, yes. And he said, her percentile is consistent. It is. I'm not concerned about her growth. And the wet diapers is the main way to figure it out. But there were times where I'm in a 3am feed and thinking to myself, maybe I'll just buy that changing table with the scale in it. Maybe I'll just splurge and do it. And then I know that I am. I knew that that was not going to be healthy for me, so I was like, I'm not gonna do it. The same with the socks that do the owlette.

[B]

The owlette, soccer, like, the heart.

[A]

It's not for me. It made me more paranoid. That's exactly right. I would have been the mom that was waking up every hour to look at my phone, and that was not going to work.

[B]

I didn't need the sock because I had my hand on her.

[A]

I was just about to say Wyatt didn't need the sock because we were actually touching at all times.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

It. She is built different. She was my initiation into motherhood, for sure. But, yeah, I. I commend you so much just for. Like, even, like, going a full year is crazy to me. Like, and I don't mean that in like, that. It's crazy that you did that, but just so impressive to commit that much of your time and energy.

[B]

It's wild.

[A]

That's the.

[B]

It feels wild, especially. And I think the part where somebody who doesn't have kids might not get it, but, like, what I. Like, you're missing out on, like, bonding with the breastfeeding part. So I literally just felt like, okay, I'm a cow.

[A]

To be fair. I felt like that. And they were latched. So if that makes you feel any.

[B]

Better, it does kind of make me feel a little bit better. I just feel like it's like the motorized. Yeah. I just felt like I was literally just take whatever you want. Just take it. Like, that's fine.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

How Was having kids and having your husband play in the NFL, like was it a lot to juggle or did you, you feel like it was like it just became normal?

[A]

You know what's funny? I. There are certain things I get very anxious about, certain things that I'll overthink most things. Like when we were about to have our first, my brain immediately goes to, we're gonna do it. Like, there is no wavering here. Like we're just go, whatever needs to happen, we're going to do. And that held true because we. I originally got pregnant. Oh gosh, I don't even know when. The year before. And miscarried. When I went into my 13 week appointment, I found out I had had a missed miscarriage and had to end up having a DNC a few days later. And I was extremely fortunate. I think my body just was not, we were not on the same page. My body was like, oh, I'm so sorry. I didn't know what we were doing. And in my next cycle, my next full cycle, I got pregnant with Wyatt.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So originally my first pregnancy, I was supposed to give birth in May, and then Wyatt was born in October. So that was a fun surprise.

[B]

A little bit of change.

[A]

Got it. But it was, you know, the heart of football season.

[B]

We, I commend women that give birth in the middle of football season.

[A]

You know what cracks me up? The questions that arise from people about that happening. So the most frequent question was what happens if you go into labor on game day? Well, thank you so much for your concern about me fully. I, again, I am the type of person who's just like, I'm gonna do it. So my answer to that and a conversation that my husband and I had was if I go into labor because they stay in the hotel the night before, if I go into labor and you are going to be playing a game while I'm pushing this baby out. I'm not telling you. Like, I'll tell you when you're done.

[B]

Oh, okay. Interesting.

[A]

I'm not going to ask you to leave the game or I would tell the necessary people who would get you off the field the fastest.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And besides that, I'm good. Like, I'm, I'm good. We knew we were going to try and have more kids. You'll be there for the next one. I don't.

[B]

And I think you're one of the most low maintenance, like, chill people I've ever met.

[A]

I just, it, it, it fascinated me that these people were so invested in the fact that I might Steal the Philadelphia Eagle center to watch his first child come into the world. And I was like, first of all, no. Second, we'll be fine. Like, so she was hunkered down in there. She was not coming out until she was evicted. So we actually were able to plan. We had her on a Wednesday, I believe, with a full induction, and dad was able to be there. And this is my favorite part, that other people don't realize. He was there the day that I gave birth. He slept well. I showed up. Then Tuesday night was. Began the induction, gave birth to her on Wednesday. So all he missed was Wednesday. He slept in the hospital. He left Thursday morning for work from the hospital. My dad had to come to the hospital to pick me and our new baby up.

[B]

Dad, can you come Ubering home?

[A]

Hitchhiking home from the hospital with, oh, my God, our new baby? Yeah.

[B]

I am kind of the opposite of you. If I have to be there, you have to be there.

[A]

I love that. See, I love that because I, like.

[B]

My husband was in a different position. My husband, you know, wasn't starting, so.

[A]

I was like, isn't it funny how our brains can prioritize that?

[B]

I'm like, I think it's gonna be okay.

[A]

You can miss one.

[B]

Like, yeah, like, do it for the plot. Isaac. I mean, he never. He didn't have to do that. The Raiders made that decision for him. Grateful for that. So.

[A]

Right. Blessing in disguise.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, sure. Yeah, sure.

[A]

NFL, we love it.

[B]

Just keeps us on our toes. This will be your first baby. Not like, you don't have to think about football.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

How is. I mean, is. I mean, I guess you have been chill up until this point, so it doesn't really change much.

[A]

No, it's. It's significantly less planning. Honestly, with Wyatt, there was a. There were so many conversations with our obs, who are my saviors. I love them. I love them with a deep passion.

[B]

Are your obs Eagles fans?

[A]

They are.

[B]

Okay. I feel like that makes a difference a little bit. I just have to interrupt because my OB in Vegas was a Raiders fan. She was like, we can induce any day you want.

[A]

I was like, okay, I'm gonna. The crazy part is, is that I have talked to so many people who also go to the obs that I go to, and that's my favorite part about the whole thing, is that every single person talks about receiving the same treatment. And I'm like, I love not getting special treatment. I love that I say that as I'm like, well, we did take them with us to The super bowl, in.

[B]

Case I gave birth, at least special treatment, whatever. Kylie, that is rare to bring your object.

[A]

So my biggest fear. That was a lot of planning. We. I had to call. We had a connection to someone who had played in Arizona. They had an OB office that they loved and trusted, and that I think many of the Cardinals players had gone through. And so I called up their office. That was a fun phone call. I was like, hello, I'm wondering if I could speak to one of your doctors. And they were like, for what reason? Are you. And are you a current patient? I said, no, I'm a prospective patient.

[B]

Like, maybe in.

[A]

Like, maybe, but maybe not. And I basically had one of their doctors call me, and I went through a full rundown of. I'm bringing. I actually took two obs, because I love them.

[B]

One wasn't enough. One has a little too much super bowl fun.

[A]

That's it. But I said to the doctor in Arizona, I know that my doctors cannot perform medically in Arizona, but the plane is the part I'm concerned about, because I'm going to be on this plane with all the Eagles family, and I don't. I don't want to get into that situation without medical staff. So. And I was 38 weeks at the time. I was the day the super bowl was played. I think I had 12 or 13 days between that and my due date.

[B]

Jesus Christ.

[A]

And this was our third kid. So everyone says they walk out. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Lucky for me, my cervix is a steel trap, and she was in there. But we took my obs because I love them. And it was a very strange coordination of, I will bring my obs to the hospital, if need be, to advise, but obviously they won't be able to practice in Arizona. Right. But my obs were. We had the conversation four or five months prior where I just had. We had the hypothetically speaking. Right.

[B]

If we were to go to the Super Bowl. Everybody talks about the hypotheticals. Like, if you're in the end.

[A]

Because you don't want to jinx it, you don't want to jinx it. So I said, yeah, we'll probably.

[B]

We probably won't go to the Super Bowl.

[A]

The best part was is that I. I think the conversation was so vague that I said, hypothetically speaking, if we had to go on a trip when I was 38 weeks pregnant, would someone come with me? And the answer. What's that?

[B]

Did they get tickets to the Super Bowl?

[A]

Oh, we brought them to the game. Yes.

[B]

Okay. I was like, you're not bringing them all the way out there, and I'm not taking them to the game.

[A]

Absolutely not. I had Joan and Colleen firmly planted.

[B]

Those are very comforting names. I would let a Joan or Colleen deliver my child.

[A]

They're the best.

[B]

So now they're probably excited to deliver this one. Knowing that you're going to be in the same state.

[A]

Yeah, that's the plan.

[B]

I'm like, you're not making plans for any other trips, are you?

[A]

No, I hope not. Especially not at the end of March. Like, where the heck will we go at the end of March? No, thanks.

[B]

Right. So do you feel like this is going to complete. I mean, this is an invasive question. Do you feel like this is going to complete your family?

[A]

Oh, that's not an invasive question. That's been regularly on my mind. I do. We've had conversations about how four, I think, is a good number. I've always said I wanted four kids with room for one pleasant surprise. But I do love. I love even numbers. And also that feeling of, yeah, this is. I. I know I sound logical. It's. It's funny. You get to this point now where I'm considering driving a minivan. I mean, there's. There's.

[B]

You're in a different stage.

[A]

There's milestones now where I have moments of pause because it is. I do. I don't want to drive a minivan, but is it the most practical? Yes. So I'm probably going to end up driving. Everyone can get. Walk back to their own seat. No one's, like, falling out of the car. It's. Right. The door. You can open the door from the driver's seat. That's exciting. Love that. I mean, you can do that on Tesla, too, but we're not going to fit in there. And screw that guy.

[B]

Yeah, right. I think you need a new car for four because you need a third row. I mean, five wouldn't be horrible.

[A]

No.

[B]

I'm sure you get this question a lot. People, I'm sure, are like, oh, he didn't get his boy.

[A]

That is one of the most infuriating. I mean, people.

[B]

Football player. He's not.

[A]

That's it. People put this strange pressure on the idea that my husband is supposed to have a boy because he's going to follow in his footsteps and he's going to be a football player and he needs to play catch in the yard.

[B]

I like childhood trauma.

[A]

I hate to break it. Seriously, I hate to break it to you, but our kids play catch with him in the. In the house. All the time. He's fine.

[B]

Yeah, I. I hate that. I. I actually hate that when. When Isaac and I found out we were having a girl, everyone's like, oh, my God. Seeing a guy, seeing a man, like, get so excited about having a daughter.

[A]

What? It's a baby.

[B]

Spoiler alert. We didn't want a boy to begin with.

[A]

I. I'll tell you what. I've seen little boys at this point that are mobile, destructive. And don't get me wrong, my kids are drawing on the walls, breaking things that don't need to be broken. But I'm. We're good. Like, we. We got what we were supposed to get. Okay. And I love. I especially love. I do think it. I would have had a slight amount of disappointment had this baby been a boy. Because when you're three deep in girls, it's like, you have three, right? If you now have a boy, that poor child is going to be dressed up by his sisters, used as a baby doll. I'm. I'm dressing you in pink. Hand me downs. I'm not buying a full new wardrobe when you're just going to have a blowout and I'm going to have to soak it anyway. We're not doing that. We're not. You're wearing pink.

[B]

I know. I'm like, maybe. Maybe. Like, there's not having four girls. That doesn't necessarily mean there's gender disappointment there. Like, no, maybe just happy.

[A]

But it is crazy that people feel so inclined, even now, pregnant with a child. They will say to me, would you still try for a boy? No. No, I wouldn't, actually. Thank you so much for asking.

[B]

Thank you. No, I think I'm just gonna keep banging my husband for fun.

[A]

Yep. We're actually having a blast making these babies. Thank you so much. That. That was the craziest. What? I still. I still tell. Like, I'll tell my friends and whoever is in that phase of life when you're newly married, because it's always, when are you getting engaged? When are you getting married? When are you having kids? It's like, can you chill out? Can you take a break? But when people say, oh, are you guys. Are you guys trying?

[B]

You mean, are. We can confirm.

[A]

I would.

[B]

I tell you lingerie.

[A]

I would tell my friends. Tell people that you're practicing, you're having a lot of fun.

[B]

Like, that'll shut them up real quick.

[A]

Tell them, because then it'll. They'll have a moment of. Oh.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

You did just. You did just ask if my husband and I are having unprotected sex. I want to be clear on the question you just asked. Like, let's reframe it. Pulling out. Right.

[B]

And you're probably listening to this. Like, oh, God, we gotta cut that one out.

[A]

It does just. It cracks me up that people feel so inclined to ask such intrusive questions. And the best part is, is that in the space that we're in, where, to some degree, we have invited it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But then other people just feel entitled to the answer. I'm. I always say, like, the podcast is called not gonna lie for a reason. I won't lie to you, but if I'm not going to answer. If I don't want to answer a question, I'm not going to answer it.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Now, that being said, I am unreasonably open.

[B]

I was gonna say, you seem like.

[A]

An open book, very much probably to a fault.

[B]

I reserve the right that if I don't want to answer to a specific person. Person. Because, like, it might not be the question that offends me. You just as a person might offend me.

[A]

Correct. That happens more than I can admit.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But the. But the boy thing. Yeah, that's been a. And full transparency. My husband and I, we actually had a conversation after we found out that we were having our second girl. We spoke to a fertility specialist to figure out if there was testing to be done to figure out, like, how many boy swimmers my husband has. And they were like, really? The only way you can ensure. We call it family planning, and it's ivf. And I was like, I cannot express to you how much. I'm not that desperate.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I. As long as I'm getting healthy babies, I don't feel the need to. To influence the universe in that way. And also, can we just. If it is not a necessary means of getting pregnant. I wouldn't wish that on anybody. No, specifically the woman. Because you're taking shots, you're basically forcing your body into a cycle. You are, like, just injecting hormones and other things, and all your husband has to do is provide a sample. That's crazy.

[B]

Honestly, like, shout out to all the women who do ivf.

[A]

I. I am so grateful that science has got us there so that it opens up the opportunity and that the more that we normalize it, I mean, I've said it multiple times. It is not as easy to get pregnant as we were taught in high school.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

In high school, we were scared shitless that if you just. If a guy looks at you long enough, good luck. Yeah, that's not the case. The number of friends I've had who have tried for a year, who have tried for multiple years. Um, and then there's the mix and match. Like, we had friends who went to IVF and then got pregnant with an Irish twin naturally, because their body was like, oh, I can do that again.

[B]

Oh, yeah, I remember. Okay.

[A]

And so I am so grateful that that is an option now.

[B]

And it. It makes me realize in the question about, oh, are he didn't get his boy, it's like, I'm grateful I got pregnant.

[A]

Right. Like, well, that's. That's. The other thing is, like, having, like, having experienced a loss before Wyatt has made me very realistic on being grateful about just being able to get pregnant.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

So everyone's journey is different every. Especially when it comes to pregnancy and. And building your family. But at the end of the day, you don't. I don't need a son, quite honestly. My girls and I are taking it.

[B]

She's like, actually, I think we're chilling. It's gonna go pro. So we're fine. We're fine on that.

[A]

Wyatt's actually going to be out there tackling all of your sons, so you're welcome.

[B]

I love. I love that you. I mean, you have a beautiful family. They seem like badass kids in the best way. So what's next for Kylie? I know you just came out with your podcast. Like, what can the people look forward to?

[A]

It sounds so silly, but continued honesty, that's really it. That's all I can guarantee. I don't. I don't know how long I will do the podcast. It depends how our lives shakeout. We're still trying to navigate retirement and what our new schedule looks like. We. My husband has a lot of things on his plate right now. It's just I never try to look too far into the future because I think that it sets expectations that you could potentially not meet or be disappointed because you fall short. Right. Ultimately, I hope that the podcast settles into the demographic that it was meant for. All the headlines and nonsense that are happening right now, I'm so happy that it's been doing well, but at the same time, I want it to hit the demographic it's supposed to hit. I want it to speak to. I want the women who need to hear about you getting your pink back to be able to hear about you getting your pink back. I want those messages to get to the right ears, and I truly believe that those are the conversations that we as moms, we as women, need to have more openly, because the conversations that we're not having are things that we're all experiencing. Postpartum depression, baby blues, mom guilt, feeling like. Like, inadequacies as a woman. Like, all of these things are things that we all experience that nobody talks about because we're like, that. I should have shame because of that.

[B]

And I'm. I think that's been one of the things over the past year is there's, like, a TikTok trend going around, and it's like, oh, I didn't accomplish anything this year. And I'm. I'm like, wow. Like, I definitely. I spoke about postpartum depression. I spoke about getting my pink back. I spoke very transparently and candidly about motherhood in a very real sense. And, yeah, I. I'm really excited for your podcast because I do think it will. It will find the audience, and I think people are going to find community in it. And you're a fudgeing badass. Like, I look up to you in many ways.

[A]

I will say, the whole reason that we connected. You were very high on my list of, like, I want to talk to Ally. Get Allie on the podcast.

[B]

It's a huge compliment. Thank you.

[A]

Well, no, because I. I am so grateful for those transparent conversations that you are having and especially the way that you put it out. So you putting it out in short form on your social media makes it easily digestible for women, because how much time do we have? You know what I mean? But then to be able to spark that, that sort of corner of the Internet of comfort for women who can then tuck in for your podcast.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is so beautiful. And again, we need to have these conversations like you openly talking about postpartum depression is something that strikes me deeply because I have had periods of my life where I truly believe I was experiencing postpartum. I know with Wyatt that I had severe baby blues. Like, I. We left the hospital and I was like this. So you're telling me this is mine?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And for the first. I always tell people, the biggest milestone for me with Wyatt was when she could smile and on purpose, because it showed that there was a connection.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Most people will take their baby home and it's this sensationalized social media of, look at how beautiful my baby is. No, My baby cried from bewitching hour at 8pm until 4am If I wasn't holding her or she wasn't on my boop. We were not on the same. We were not cool.

[B]

Okay. The comment that people say, like, oh, the moment I met my daughter, like, it was. Oh, it was game over. And, like, obviously, the moment I saw my daughter for the first time was a beautiful experience, but it was also terrifying.

[A]

It was scary, horrific.

[B]

And the first few weeks, like, I don't. I feel like I blacked out. I feel like there are points in the past, the first few weeks postpartum, I don't remember. And it's like, you don't see that on social media.

[A]

You see, like, that's self preservation is what that is.

[B]

That is survival.

[A]

It is. And. But those are the things where, like, I absolutely love that you are having those conversations, that you are being so clear and transparent and that you're not just trying to be the aesthetic like, mom.

[B]

I fucking tried, dude.

[A]

You and me both.

[B]

I took Kylie a picture of my closet before we started filming, so she.

[A]

No, and it looks like mine. I just. I think that, like, I think that if we had these conversations more often, we would all, as moms and women, not feel this immense sense of guilt that we've all put on ourselves.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

And that society has put on us. And so I am so grateful that you are having this conversation. I'm so grateful in the ways that you are pushing out the information and so. So welcoming to other people to hear your experience and to. So that they can validate their own. Absolutely. So thank you for doing that and thank you for having me on. I really appreciate it.

[B]

Thank you so much for coming on, and I'm excited to hear more from your podcast. So everybody head over to all of Kylie's socials. Where can they find you?

[A]

It's at ngl with Kylie on pretty much every platform.

[B]

Not gonna lie. Love a name.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Thank you for coming on. And I'm sure Super bowl is right around the corner, so we will see each other soon.

[A]

I can't wait. I'm so excited. Should we. Should we team up for a little. A little radio row?

[B]

I think we should.

[A]

Oh, let's do it.

[B]

All right. Thanks, guys.

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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