In his retirement era with guest Isaac Rochell

Summary

Sunday Sports Club with Allison Kuch Episode: In His Retirement Era with Guest Isaac Rochelle Release Date: July 6, 2025

In this insightful episode of the Sunday Sports Club, host Allison Kuch engages in an engaging conversation with retired NFL star Isaac Rochelle. The discussion delves deep into Isaac's transition from professional football to retirement, exploring the challenges and opportunities that come with such a significant life change. Below is a comprehensive summary capturing the key points, discussions, insights, and conclusions from their conversation.

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1. Introduction to Retirement and New Beginnings

Allison Kuch opens the episode by introducing Isaac Rochelle, highlighting his seven-year journey in the NFL and the subsequent shift into retirement. She emphasizes the unique perspective of discussing sports through a female lens, especially focusing on post-athletic career life.

• Allison Kuch (00:58): "The craziest thing to me about guys retiring from the NFL after like a pretty significant career is that football is essentially all you've ever known."

Isaac Rochelle shares his early beginnings in football, starting in sixth grade, which he notes is relatively late compared to some of his teammates.

• Isaac Rochelle (01:01): "Started playing in sixth grade, which I would say that's pretty old compared to some of your teammates played."

2. Life After Football: Travel and Family

Isaac and Allison discuss their ongoing love for travel, a passion that was nurtured during Isaac's NFL career due to the flexibility and financial benefits it provided. They reflect on how retirement has further amplified their travel experiences without the constraints of a demanding sports schedule.

• Allison Kuch (01:27): "We've been super grateful to be able to travel because the NFL one, you made more money as somebody coming out of college than somebody else coming out of college."

Isaac humorously recounts running a half marathon unexpectedly, showcasing his continued commitment to fitness even in retirement.

• Isaac Rochelle (02:49): "Someone's got to do it."
• Allison Kuch (02:50): "Isaac woke up this morning and randomly ran a half marathon."

3. Adjusting to Retirement: New Routines and Hobbies

The conversation shifts to how retirement has allowed Isaac to explore new interests and hobbies, such as podcasting and running. They discuss the freedom that comes with no longer being bound by the NFL's hectic schedule, enabling them to prioritize family and personal passions.

• Isaac Rochelle (05:21): "I interviewed Cory Booker. It's kind of a big deal."
• Allison Kuch (06:26): "The worst thing to happen to me is I wake up in New York City alone because my husband's randomly running 13 miles."

4. Reflections on the NFL and Competitive Nature

Isaac shares his nuanced feelings about football, expressing both his love for the game and his disillusionment with the politics and competitiveness that clouded his passion.

• Isaac Rochelle (08:32): "I love the game of football. I love talking about football. I love, like, evaluating football. I would love to coach football."
• Allison Kuch (08:38): "If somebody gets drafted higher than you were drafted, the same position, your odds that you play goes down."

They delve into how the internal politics of the NFL impacted Isaac's enthusiasm, ultimately leading to his decision to retire.

• Isaac Rochelle (09:23): "I feel like I can do things that, like, I actually like doing."

5. Future Plans and Continued Involvement in Football

Despite retiring, Isaac emphasizes his desire to remain connected to the football community through his podcast and other ventures. He expresses openness to potential opportunities, such as coaching or even a comeback if the right circumstances arise.

• Allison Kuch (09:40): "What do you want your relationship with football to be, and are there any teams you're excited to root for?"
• Isaac Rochelle (10:09): "I don't have a team. I'm trying to think of if I had to give my super bowl prediction... I think it's going to be the Ravens."

6. Personal Life: Parenting and Family Dynamics

Isaac and Allison discuss their life as parents, highlighting the balance between retirement, travel, and raising their daughter, Scotty. They touch upon the humorous and challenging aspects of parenting, especially with Isaac's spontaneous athletic endeavors.

• Isaac Rochelle (24:19): "I hope Scotty will have way bigger, cooler things to talk about."
• Allison Kuch (30:04): "People are like, oh my God, your husband ran, like, a marathon today. I'm like, I built bones, so it's, like, not that impressive."

7. Fitness and Health in Retirement

A significant portion of the conversation revolves around maintaining fitness post-retirement. Isaac proudly shares his recent personal records in running, while Allison expresses interest in taking up marathon running herself.

• Isaac Rochelle (36:35): "I have hit two PRs. One was a half marathon and the other one was a marathon."
• Allison Kuch (36:45): "If I'm gonna run a marathon, why would I not do it in a really cool place like Hawaii?"

8. Predictions and Light-Hearted Banter

Isaac provides his predictions for the upcoming football season, favoring teams like the Ravens and Patriots. The conversation takes a light-hearted turn as they engage in rapid-fire questions, revealing personal preferences and humorous insights.

• Isaac Rochelle (38:46): "I think the Patriots are going to be really, really good."
• Allison Kuch (45:27): "Be the funniest in the room or the smartest."
• Isaac Rochelle (45:32): "The smartest would be funny."

9. Closing Thoughts and Future Collaborations

As the episode draws to a close, Allison hints at future collaborative projects, including the possibility of featuring Isaac's podcast. They reflect on the limitless possibilities that retirement brings and the excitement of embarking on new ventures together.

• Allison Kuch (43:15): "I saw an article... So you have to take everything with a grain of salt."
• Isaac Rochelle (43:15): "New chapter? Being post retirement. I think the sky is the limit for us."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Allison Kuch (00:58): "The craziest thing to me about guys retiring from the NFL after like a pretty significant career is that football is essentially all you've ever known."

• Isaac Rochelle (02:49): "Someone's got to do it."

• Isaac Rochelle (05:21): "I interviewed Cory Booker. It's kind of a big deal."

• Isaac Rochelle (08:32): "I love the game of football. I love talking about football. I love, like, evaluating football. I would love to coach football."

• Isaac Rochelle (09:23): "I feel like I can do things that, like, I actually like doing."

• Isaac Rochelle (24:19): "I hope Scotty will have way bigger, cooler things to talk about."

• Isaac Rochelle (36:35): "I have hit two PRs. One was a half marathon and the other one was a marathon."

• Isaac Rochelle (38:46): "I think the Patriots are going to be really, really good."

• Allison Kuch (45:27): "Be the funniest in the room or the smartest."

• Isaac Rochelle (45:32): "The smartest would be funny."

Conclusion

This episode of Sunday Sports Club offers a heartfelt and honest exploration of life after professional sports. Through the dynamic conversation between Allison and Isaac, listeners gain valuable insights into the challenges of transitioning from a high-profile athletic career to retirement, the importance of family and personal passions, and the continuous pursuit of health and happiness. Isaac Rochelle's candid reflections and optimistic outlook provide inspiration for anyone navigating significant life changes.

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Transcript

[Allison Kuch]

The following podcast is a Dear Media Production. What's up, guys? Welcome back to Sunday Sports Club Podcast, a podcast all about. Well, it's actually not all about sports. Sometimes it is and sometimes it's not. And today is one of those times that it actually is about sports told by a woman. And that woman is me. Hi, guys, I'm Allison Kuch and today we are joined by somebody who is, like, begging me to be on the podcast. His name is Isaac.

[Isaac Rochelle]

You. I mean, you had to get the joke in somewhere. So.

[Allison Kuch]

So today we are going to be talking all about post football retirement, what's next, exciting things and kind of like what life has looked like and how you're feeling post football career. The craziest thing to me about guys retiring from the NFL after like a pretty significant career is that football is essentially all you've ever known.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Yeah. I mean, shoot.

[Allison Kuch]

When did you start playing football?

[Isaac Rochelle]

Started playing in sixth grade, which I.

[Allison Kuch]

Would say that's pretty old compared to some of your teammates played.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Yeah, 2006 started. It's crazy.

[Allison Kuch]

So we'll get into all things retirement, but we are currently recording in New York City. We're here for something called Fanatics Fest, which there's actually going to be an episode coming out soon with I'm recording at Fanatics Fest, which is really cool.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Another retired guy.

[Allison Kuch]

Yeah, exactly. But we are in New York City and then we're going on to Europe. And traveling has really not been like something new to us. We've been super grateful to be able to travel because the NFL one, you made more money as somebody coming out of college than somebody else coming out of college. And you also have off season. So every off season, we always booked an off season trip to like a really cool destination that we could only dream of going to. And so I feel like it's not new for us, like traveling, but it is new for us that you're not playing football. Like, we don't have to come back.

[Isaac Rochelle]

I love how you're always so cautious explaining, like, like the money thing. Like, I made great money playing in the NFL and I had five months off. So, like, I'm going to go travel.

[Allison Kuch]

Somebody actually called me out and was like, you need to stop, like, defending every single decision you make.

[Isaac Rochelle]

You're like, you made good money, but, like, that's just because you didn't have a job in college and you write zero. So, like, no, it's just like everybody, you just go the whole season, you get paid for 17 weeks out of the year and then Like, I'm feeling.

[Allison Kuch]

Guilty right now that I haven't, like, prefaced. Like, we are super grateful to be able to go on. Like, I'm just so terrified of the Internet. Yeah, we all are, but we are currently in New York. We're recording in New York. And I figured, why not, like, sit down with Isaac and talk about his retirement? Because, yeah, that's a thing.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Someone's got to do it.

[Allison Kuch]

Isaac woke up this morning and randomly ran a half marathon.

[Isaac Rochelle]

It's not even random. I'm gonna run an ultra marathon. I'm gonna run 100 miles, and everybody's gonna be like, oh, you were, like, actually serious about that NFL.

[Allison Kuch]

If you're listening to this, can you please take him back? Because this is what I have to freaking put up with. This man literally wakes up, and he's like, I'm gonna go run eight miles. Be right back. And he goes, oh, actually, I just kept running. It was like, 15.

[Isaac Rochelle]

The marathon. I did run a marathon. Just so, like, on a random.

[Allison Kuch]

On a random morning.

[Isaac Rochelle]

It was a random Tuesday that actually.

[Allison Kuch]

Had a lot to do that Tuesday, too.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Straight into a photo shoot. Highly not recommended. But that was kind of like that. I planned on running, like, you know, 13, whatever, and then ran 26.

[Allison Kuch]

Isaac came home from running 26 miles on Tuesday. Oh, yeah, you did Uber home.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Because I was gonna do 30, to be honest. I started running. I was like, I'm do. I'm gonna do 30 miles and then got to 26 and sat down at a coffee shop to eat a croissant for energy. And literally, who looks to croissants for energy? I just needed anything. I mean, go run 26 miles, and then. Then you'll feel that. But I needed anything. Sat down, and I was like, I physically. I've hit my limit with my.

[Allison Kuch]

Did you even walk to the Uber?

[Isaac Rochelle]

I went into a random person's yard. It was bad. I felt like I was gonna throw up because I was like, wow, I'm really gassed.

[Allison Kuch]

Then he comes home, chugs a beer, jumps in the pool, and then goes in showers, and then we have photo shoot. It was.

[Isaac Rochelle]

That's dog work right there.

[Allison Kuch]

I was like, is this what retirement is? Like, your husband waking up running a.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Marathon, coming catch a little buzz? Photo shoot. It was great. It was a phenomenal day.

[Allison Kuch]

Okay, well, I feel like we've had such a busy. Oh, my God. This year has been crazy busy. We kind of referenced it in a different podcast episode. But, like, you've been traveling a ton. I've Been traveling a ton.

[Isaac Rochelle]

We, like, flip flopped.

[Allison Kuch]

Yes. Which is, like, kind of nice, but kind of not nice.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Well, we prioritize our daughter, so it's like we're all someone. One of us is always with her. Like, literally, she's on the show and you just don't even know it. She's hiding behind us.

[Allison Kuch]

Yeah.

[Isaac Rochelle]

She's wearing a green screen suit, but, no, it's. It's good. It works out.

[Allison Kuch]

Yeah. So do you feel like you've been able to travel? Do you feel like. Do you like traveling now that you're done with football? What?

[Isaac Rochelle]

No. It's just funny because we're, like, married, so you're asking me questions that you probably know the answer to, but I.

[Allison Kuch]

Actually don't know the.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Do I like traveling?

[Allison Kuch]

I know you like traveling. I'm saying, like, for all of these other opportunities, like, you just went out to D.C. like, interview somebody. You're. You're traveling a lot.

[Isaac Rochelle]

I interviewed Cory Booker. It's kind of a big deal. I love traveling, to be honest with you. In this era of having a child traveling, it's kind of relaxing. Just the flight, specifically, like, the time on the flight. Tof. Time on flight is, like, really relaxing to me. That's, like, just time to relax.

[Allison Kuch]

And I fully agree.

[Isaac Rochelle]

And I can control my workout schedule when I run or when I travel, so then I can, like, work out whenever, travel. It's. It's great. It's great.

[Allison Kuch]

I was saying it more in terms of, like, the context of, like, oh, you couldn't travel all the time when you were in football, but now you can because you're not.

[Isaac Rochelle]

I think having freedom is nice. Like, not having to go, oh, do I. Are we like, oh, OTAs are happening. Like, it's just free. Like. And I can also plan, like, for instance, not. Not to make running my personality. But I want to do the.

[Allison Kuch]

I think we all agree that you fully already have.

[Isaac Rochelle]

It's okay. You're right.

[Allison Kuch]

Yeah. No, you definitely have, which I think is healthy. It's a healthy thing to turn to when you're done with football instead of like, oh, I'm going to go party. I'm going to go drink. I'm going to go do this.

[Isaac Rochelle]

I guess you're right.

[Allison Kuch]

Like, the worst thing to happen to me is I wake up in New York City alone because my husband's randomly running 13 miles, and I'm like, okay, I'm going to order something to eat, me and my daughter, and we're going to watch Mickey Mouse.

[Isaac Rochelle]

So which Is adorable. It sounds like. No, I love morning. What I was going to say, though, is being able to plan, like, I want to do the New York marathon, so then I know that's November, and I can, like, be like, oh, yeah, I can. I can commit to that. I'm not gonna have a game or I'm not waiting to get signed, so I can just, like, commit and don't have to stress.

[Allison Kuch]

Love that.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Yeah.

[Allison Kuch]

Okay, well, let's kind of jump into some questions that people had. If you guys aren't aware. I go on my Sunday Sports Club podcast, Instagram, and you can submit a question if you ever want to in the future. You don't have to. I'm not forcing you, but, like, you should. Biggest question that we got from listeners.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Whoa.

[Allison Kuch]

How are you enjoying retirement?

[Isaac Rochelle]

I love it. I love it. I actually love being retired. Yeah, I mean, I'm definitely not retired, but.

[Allison Kuch]

Wait, what?

[Isaac Rochelle]

I mean, I am, but, like, I'm.

[Allison Kuch]

Retired from the NFL.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Yeah. Not from, like, finished my NFL career, but now I can just. I feel like I can do things that, like, I actually like doing. Like, my podcast. I. That's just a passion project. I'm not, like, it's just what I like to do or, like, even doing stuff with tv. Like, I can put my full effort into it. And we just said this, but just, like, feeling like I can control the outcome, like, work in equals, like, a result. It's not just, like, waiting on somebody else to make a decision like the NFL is, and then obviously, like, working out. Like, I. I've realized this now. I feel like I, like, I loved football, but, like, I don't know that it was, like, my passion sport. Like, playing wise. Like, I love talking about what is your passion sport. No, but I'm just saying, like, I feel like I love running. Like, I really love it. I don't know that I, like, went to, like, training camp and was like, I can't wait to practice, but I can't wait to do long, really difficult runs. It's just. I don't know, it's kind of interesting.

[Allison Kuch]

I also feel like, the competitiveness of the NFL and, like, the politics that go into the NFL might also play.

[Isaac Rochelle]

A part in that definitely burned me. It definitely made me, like, it stripped my passion from the game at the end.

[Allison Kuch]

So I was going to say that a lot of politics in the NFL pertaining to, like, if somebody gets drafted higher than you were drafted, the same position, you're. The odds that you play goes down, and it's not really Only based off of are you good or not?

[Isaac Rochelle]

No, it's a rap if. If you. If you. Somebody gets drafted at your position and they get drafted first or second round, like, it's a rap. Like, that person's going to play.

[Allison Kuch]

You love the game of football.

[Isaac Rochelle]

I. I love the game of football. I love talking about football. I love, like, evaluating football. I would love to coach football. I just feel like when I look back, I don't know. I don't know. To answer your question, I'm loving retirement. I think that's the bigger thing. I'm happy that I'm. That part of my life is move. Like, we've moved on.

[Allison Kuch]

Yeah. I'm like. At the beginning of this episode, Isaac was like, oh, you probably know the answer to all these. I'm like, I mean, we're only at question one, and apparently I don't like. Okay, moving on. What do you want your relationship with football to be, and are there any teams you're excited to root for?

[Isaac Rochelle]

It's a great question. You wrote all these out, right, Annie? My relationship with football. Now I want. I want to talk about it, obviously. Like, I love football. Talking about it.

[Allison Kuch]

Yeah.

[Isaac Rochelle]

And I want to stay in the game. Like, I don't see a world where I'll ever just be, like, out of the game of football, whatever that looks like. Right. But I think that's what I want my relationship to look like. And the second part of that question.

[Allison Kuch]

Was, what teams are you excited to root for? Do you have a team now that you've retired from the NFL?

[Isaac Rochelle]

I think the Chargers are kind of my team, but I don't. I don't have a team. I'm trying to think, if I had to give my super bowl prediction right now, who I think it's going to be, to be honest with you, I think it's going to be the Ravens. If I had to give, like, an official prediction, I don't think they're going.

[Allison Kuch]

To have a great season.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Is there something personal there?

[Allison Kuch]

Maybe.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Did you have another guest on this show that's got an affiliation with you?

[Allison Kuch]

No, I just. Not a huge fan of the Ravens.

[Isaac Rochelle]

No, they're. They're probably. I mean, you got. They've got everybody. They've got everybody. Like, their team is actually in a great position to go. But then you have the Bills. Like, I could go down a list of teams, so I don't have a team in particular.

[Allison Kuch]

I think I'm always going to root for the Chargers. I actually think the Chargers are going to make it far in playoffs this year.

[Isaac Rochelle]

They're just in a tough division. It's such a toss up. They could be good and still not make it to a Super Bowl. It's happened numerous years. I was there. We went 12 and 4 and didn't make it past the wild card round, so. Well, we did make it past the wild card round, but I was like.

[Allison Kuch]

I was there. I'm pretty sure you guys did.

[Isaac Rochelle]

The point is it's a tough division, so tbd. But yeah, I think the Ravens.

[Allison Kuch]

I'm always rooting for my Lions as well. Detroit Lions.

[Isaac Rochelle]

I think I have to be careful. Yeah, I'll keep my mouth.

[Allison Kuch]

Yeah, you kind of have to. You do have to be careful, Isaac.

[Isaac Rochelle]

The Lions division. This will be my only boring football talk. The Lions division, NFC north has totally changed. The game has changed there because they lost both of their coordinators. Ben Johnson. I'm blanking on the other dude's name right now. He's with the Jets. Doesn't matter. Not like I'm going to be doing broadcasting or anything, but that doesn't matter. The point is that that team's gonna look very different and you got the Bears in that division, which I think like that those two teams playing is gonna look a lot different than it's looked like in the past.

[Allison Kuch]

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[Isaac Rochelle]

No. I'm just trying to think of a good answer here. Here's my prediction. I think Ashton Jeanty just got drafted 6 overall to the Raiders. I think he's going to leave a lasting impression. I think he's going to be great in that organization. Pete Carroll is the head coach. He's coached Marshawn Lynch. It's like a perfect situation for his type of running back ability. He's at zero, right? Because he hasn't even played one NFL game. But I think he's going to be a guy that is going to be talked about for a long time and he's very likable, which matters a ton.

[Allison Kuch]

Does he have a girlfriend?

[Isaac Rochelle]

I don't know, but he knew who you were when I interviewed him.

[Allison Kuch]

He probably has a girlfriend.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Like oh my God dude, I love your tick tock content. Your wife is so much cooler than you, honestly.

[Allison Kuch]

I know that's exactly how the conversation went.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Wait, wait, I gotta say this though. I did interview all the I interviewed every single rookie skill position Player that was, like, in the high drafts or high up in the draft. And they were all. They all came on and they were like, yeah, like, you know, I'm out here grinding, like, trying to act all cool. Then we went to a cocktail hour that night, and they were with their, like, their girlfriends, and they were like, bro, like, my girl made me come over here. Like, she's a huge fan of you and your wife. Like, it was just funny to see them, like, then try to act cool in front of their girls. Like, yeah, like, we were talking earlier. Like, you're like, bro, you hated me. I'm like, you were acting brand new 4 hours ago.

[Allison Kuch]

I feel like that's part of, like, athletes.

[Isaac Rochelle]

It was also, you kind of act.

[Allison Kuch]

Different around your teammates than you act around me. Well, I hope so. Like, I hope you're not kissing them.

[Isaac Rochelle]

It was funny, though, because they don't know who I am in that setting. It's not. If they don't have tick tock. It's not like they're like, oh, my God, Isaac Rochelle, hall of Fame player, dude. Nice. They're like, who is this guy who's. I was working with Microsoft, talking about AI. They're like, why are we.

[Allison Kuch]

Who's this Microsoft rep? Especially now that you've.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Like, some of the people thought I worked for Microsoft. I'm like, bro, I don't work for Microsoft.

[Allison Kuch]

Like, I work with them, but not for them. Wait, that's actually so funny. So I saw an article, which you gotta take every article with a little grain of salt. I've seen articles about me, and I'm like, where the. Who the. Are they talking? Like, what is that actually about me? Because I'm like, I'm confused, but. So you have to take everything with a grain of salt, but this is going somewhere juicy. Apparently Tom Brady, who is a, like, not a majority holder of the Raiders.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Minority.

[Allison Kuch]

I said not a majority. Yeah, so that does equal minority. Okay.

[Isaac Rochelle]

We call it whatever you want.

[Allison Kuch]

Cool. He apparently didn't want to draft a certain person. It's interesting because do you think players should be able to make decisions like that? I mean, now he literally owns part of the Raiders. So, like, I feel like if you own the Raiders, that's fine. But I'm saying players. Do you think players, like, on an NFL team should have any say to, like, what they think the team needs?

[Isaac Rochelle]

No. No, absolutely not.

[Allison Kuch]

Really?

[Isaac Rochelle]

It's just. It's not realistic. I mean, what would that look like? I think if you have not even a quarterback. Let me Rephrase that, because I. I think the broad answer is no. But I think if you want to get specific. Yeah. If you've got Tom Brady on the Patriots when they had won four Super Bowls and you're going into whatever the next season was. Yeah. Tom, what do you want? Who do you need? Who do you think we need here? Like, what pieces do you think we need to fill? The reason the answer is still no, though, is because, one, you don't want that energy in your locker room. You don't want a receiver that's going to end up getting released because Tom Brady said he wanted to draft a receiver. You don't want that. Right. And then the other piece is I would have been, like, literally never drafted defensive man. It's like, not a healthy relationship to have.

[Allison Kuch]

I mean. Yeah, but I've seen players who, like, don't get along with other players on the team and then end up leaving.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Yeah. I think a better situation would just be having a GM and an owner that's really in tune with what their team needs. Like, know what the needs.

[Allison Kuch]

I feel like that's the bare minimum. I feel like that's your husband asking you on a date, like on Valentine's Day.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Yeah, but why do the Browns have five quarterbacks on the roster right now?

[Allison Kuch]

I don't know what the Browns are doing.

[Isaac Rochelle]

So it's like you. You hope that would be the situation.

[Allison Kuch]

But remember when you got cut for.

[Isaac Rochelle]

A quarterback, for a fourth string quarterback? Yeah. And then you asked me why I like running more than going to training camp.

[Allison Kuch]

Okay, touche. How are you going to tell Scotty about your experience in the NFL? We're just going to pretend like it never happened. This irrelevant now.

[Isaac Rochelle]

This is crazy, but this is my manifestation. I hope that it doesn't even matter. Like, I hope it's such a thing on my. It's just like a thing on my resume. I hope by the time she's old enough to understand that she's like, my dad's doing so many more cool things. And like, oh, yeah, my dad also played in the NFL. Like, did you even know that? Yeah. Like, I hope it's a fun fact and not like, not like the glory.

[Allison Kuch]

Days like, oh, my God, back in the day where like all of her friends come over and they're like, Mr. Isaac, we heard that story five times.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Yeah. Like, even on my, like, podcast when I'm interviewing people, like, I don't talk about the NFL at all. And I don't want that to be, you know, that's that's my foot in the door thing. Like, I can say, hey, I played seven years in the NFL. And people are like, oh, my God, that's crazy. And they talk to me. But I hope it's. We're gonna move on from that. Scotty will have way bigger, cooler things to talk about.

[Allison Kuch]

Yeah. I do think that, like, what's next in your career, I think, is going to be a cooler aspect to bring Scotty into that. Like, the idea of you bringing her to, like, work with you for a day, like, that's something I think about. I'm like, oh, my God, that's going to be so special.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Yeah. Career day. Turn on the tv. My dad will be on there. It's kind of crazy.

[Allison Kuch]

During your retirement episode, you admitted that you cried after every practice when you were little. What would you do if Scotty did the same?

[Isaac Rochelle]

That's challenging. I think it's.

[Allison Kuch]

I unfortunately cried out Isaac. There's no. Please don't come for me. Oh, my God. Because I know people are going to come for me. The mom community can be very. Well, not. The parent community can be judgmental, But.

[Isaac Rochelle]

I. I think it's. I would definitely evaluate the situation. Like, there's certain situations that weren't crying, and then there's certain situations that objectively shouldn't be a crying situation with little kids. And I think maybe I just approach it from that perspective. Like, if she's like.

[Allison Kuch]

I think there's, like, a fine line. Right.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Well, and there's also a healthy amount of adversity. Like, if she's like. If she came home and was like, I don't like my coach, I feel like I would discuss that with you, but I would never be, like, encourage that, because there's, like, a healthy relationship that needs to exist between a player and a coach. If you don't like your coach, that's fine. But, like, you still have to, like, respect your coach.

[Allison Kuch]

I would be like, why do you not like your coach?

[Isaac Rochelle]

Yeah, but. And then I'd call the coach and be like, dude, what are you doing? I'm gonna be that dad. I promise you that.

[Allison Kuch]

No, Isaac's acting like he's not gonna be the coach.

[Isaac Rochelle]

I will be the coach.

[Allison Kuch]

Yeah, you're acting like you're not gonna be coaching your kids sports.

[Isaac Rochelle]

She's gonna be playing soccer, and all the parents gonna be like, bro, you literally didn't play soccer. And I'm gonna be like, bro, literally, get out of my face. No, unfortunately, that's a problem.

[Allison Kuch]

I'm gonna Be sitting in a nice little lawn chair with.

[Isaac Rochelle]

You want to be a coach's wife so bad. You give coach's wife. You give coach's wife energy.

[Allison Kuch]

Don't get it twisted at the NFL level or at the kid level, you.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Give high school head coach's wife.

[Allison Kuch]

Because I'm hot. Yeah. All head coaches for football in high school, their wives are hot.

[Isaac Rochelle]

It's giving. Who's the. Who is the blonde Friday Night light? The mom?

[Allison Kuch]

Connie Britton.

[Isaac Rochelle]

It's giving Connie Britton.

[Allison Kuch]

Yeah, I'll. I'll give that any day. Yeah. Yeah, I would love that. Oh, my God. People be like, oh, my God, that's his wife. Holy shit, bro.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Run the ball. You're gonna be there. Okay.

[Allison Kuch]

Wrong the dang ball. What do you feel, you guys. Oh, this. Somebody asked us. What do you guys feel you've learned as a couple and family while discussing retirement?

[Isaac Rochelle]

I mean, look, we can sit here and romanticize my retirement. I quite literally didn't get a phone call. I mean, I was, like, very forced into retirement. I. I would have played another year if I would have been getting blown up. So. But it wasn't like, we were like, kumbaya.

[Allison Kuch]

It's time, like, I think it's time to make the. To make the call as agent's like, bruh, nobody's been calling for you.

[Isaac Rochelle]

It's. It was over.

[Allison Kuch]

But I do think that we did just start discussing retirement when. Your last year with the Raiders. I mean, your last year in the NFL. Because I feel like it was just like a natural progression. Like, we just kind of knew, like, that was next. It wasn't like, oh, what team are you going to next year? It was more so like, okay, well, we can.

[Isaac Rochelle]

We can be specific, though, because I remember it was probably, like, I would say, like, June. And I remember telling you, like, hey, I think I want to retire. And you were like, you should just wait and see if you get signed. Because I was like, over. I mean, I was like, I. I also didn't want the season to start and just be the guy sitting around waiting on a phone call.

[Allison Kuch]

Yeah.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Which happened.

[Allison Kuch]

I feel like you had a lot of, like, you went back and forth on, like, retiring before the football season and retiring in the middle or retiring after. You didn't want to retire after, which unfortunately ended up happening. You. I think we talked about it, and you're like, I want to get to, like, week eight, and if I haven't gotten a phone call, I'm going to retire.

[Isaac Rochelle]

But then it's like, this is finished a year.

[Allison Kuch]

But then it was like, whatever. And then. Are you disappointed of how you retired?

[Isaac Rochelle]

It doesn't even matter. I mean, I think I, like, I think it was a good journey. I think we did the right way. We waited a year.

[Allison Kuch]

Yeah. The only thing that you spoke to me about retirement and, like, I feel like the hesitancy, which some people might understand more from this perspective is like, the idea of you playing in a game and your daughter being in the stadium.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Would have liked to do that.

[Allison Kuch]

Was not in a uterus.

[Isaac Rochelle]

You know, I just started to watch games, and I would just see, like, the violent collisions. And I did start to be like, I don't. That just. I'm so far out of it, like, because it wasn't like I was putting on cleats every day, like, out there. I was just like, I don't even feel connected to this. And then I see the violence. I'm like, I don't really. I don't know. I didn't. I kind of lost that. Want to do that.

[Allison Kuch]

Okay.

[Isaac Rochelle]

During the season, like, I think I.

[Allison Kuch]

Want to take up running.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Yeah. It's like, maybe. I don't think it would look really.

[Allison Kuch]

Good in, like, spandex shorts. Like, running shorts. Yeah, totally. People's. People always ask women when they want to have another kid. Is that something. Is there something you want to achieve before baby number two?

[Isaac Rochelle]

No. I'm fully ready for another Isaac.

[Allison Kuch]

Okay. Seriously.

[Isaac Rochelle]

I'm answering the question, you guys.

[Allison Kuch]

Isaac's like, yeah, I would have a baby yesterday.

[Isaac Rochelle]

I think the only thing.

[Allison Kuch]

You don't have to grow it.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Yeah, that's. So my timeline is based on you. I don't have to do anything.

[Allison Kuch]

It's like, people are like, oh, my God, your husband ran, like, a marathon today. I'm like, I built bones, so it's, like, not that impressive. Yeah.

[Isaac Rochelle]

You're like, there's levels.

[Allison Kuch]

Your little bit of marathon, you had an Uber home from. Okay, that's crazy. That's actually crazy. But. So there's nothing you want to achieve before baby number two?

[Isaac Rochelle]

No.

[Allison Kuch]

Is there? I. Okay, so when we do. Like, when I do get pregnant with baby number two, is there something that you would want to take advantage of while we only have one kid?

[Isaac Rochelle]

I think we're already doing that. I feel very confident with the way that we've done things. Like, I feel like I've taken. I mean, I'll speak for myself. I feel like I've taken advantage of the time.

[Allison Kuch]

My issue is I'm getting antsy to like, like get pregnant with baby number two again. But like I'm. Every time I'm like, oh, I could this month I'm like, oh wait, no no, no, I need to do this first. Or oh wait, wait, hold on. What about this? Yeah, but it's like there's no perfect time.

[Isaac Rochelle]

You also have nine months.

[Allison Kuch]

We're growing it. That's what I'm saying. What am I got to do before.

[Isaac Rochelle]

All the, all those things you're talking about?

[Allison Kuch]

It's like I got cute outfits that need to be worn before that.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Well, that is what it is. But it's like, it's like leaving the paper off and you have a week left to. Or I mean, shoot, that'd be great. You have like a day left to do it. That's what's going to happen. You get pregnant, you're like, all these things I need to do. Well, I better do it before the second kid comes. It. It, it would definitely accelerate your process of getting stuff done really fast. Cuz you know how much it takes now, Isaac, clearly.

[Allison Kuch]

Oh my God, you're so out of touch, Isaac, because you don't know what pregnancy tired is.

[Isaac Rochelle]

I don't. I don't.

[Allison Kuch]

Isaac. I think one time compared it to like postgame tired. You're.

[Isaac Rochelle]

You're literally making that up. I've never made that comparison.

[Allison Kuch]

I remember Isaac coming home when he was still playing for the Raiders and I was pregnant and you come home be like, I'm so tired. I'm like, yeah, same. I'm like, I actually like to play the comparison game because I'm going to win.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Yeah, you do. I don't.

[Allison Kuch]

Anyways, so there's nothing. Yeah, so if I said I was pregnant with baby number two right now.

[Isaac Rochelle]

I would be ecstatic.

[Allison Kuch]

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[Isaac Rochelle]

I would love if you ran a marathon. Like, I would love.

[Allison Kuch]

That's on my list of things to do before I get pregnant. Ask me if I've started training.

[Isaac Rochelle]

You can know that's the thing. Not to go off on a tangent. I literally, in the last month and a half, I've hit two PRs. One was a half marathon and the other one was a marathon.

[Allison Kuch]

Like, even the word pr, Sorry, personal record.

[Isaac Rochelle]

It's a general term from, like, I don't know what other. Okay, let me answer the question, though. Yes, I think it'd be really fun. I think you, like, forget me. I think you would be proud of yourself. I think it would be cool for me to see you be proud. Oh, yeah, I don't. I mean, we.

[Allison Kuch]

I was actually on one of my podcast episodes, I had Anna Sitar on here, and we made, like, the verbal agreement that we would run a marathon together. My thing is that if I'm gonna. If I'm forced to run a marathon, which nobody's forcing me except myself, but if I'm gonna run a marathon, why would I not do it in a really cool place like Hawaii? I mean, I'm not running a marathon in Michigan. I'm not doing that.

[Isaac Rochelle]

There's no better.

[Allison Kuch]

No offense, In Michigan, but, like, I'm not running a marathon in like a place that doesn't have, like the most beautiful scenery.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Yeah, I think it'd be so good for you.

[Allison Kuch]

That's out of touch that I just said that.

[Isaac Rochelle]

I'm still stuck on the. You running it. I, I think it would just be so cool for you. And I, I do think it would be just really healthy for you to challenge your mind in that way. Like, I think you would find value.

[Allison Kuch]

Challenge my mind? I had a C section while awake. That's mind challenging enough.

[Isaac Rochelle]

That was crazy.

[Allison Kuch]

Isaac almost passed out. I was like, buddy, you're not on the table.

[Isaac Rochelle]

I would have. I would have died before I passed out. You would have not have caught. You wouldn't have caught me passed out. I was not going to be that guy.

[Allison Kuch]

Okay. Do. Do you have any prediction for football season? Who do you think is going to be a bad team? I'm kidding. Don't answer that.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Because, I mean, I can tell you who I think is going to be awful.

[Allison Kuch]

No, don't tell me that. Well, don't tell them. Tell me later.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Yeah, I have a team that I think is going to be really, really bad.

[Allison Kuch]

Any other predictions?

[Isaac Rochelle]

I think, I think this is definitely going to be a true, like, it's going to be more even this year. I think there's so many teams that are going to be good. I also think the Patriots are going to be really good. I don't think, I don't. I don't know that they're going to be like old Patriots because I don't know.

[Allison Kuch]

Does it have anything to do with Belichick's new fiance?

[Isaac Rochelle]

Oh, Belichick's with uncle.

[Allison Kuch]

Wait, really?

[Isaac Rochelle]

Yeah.

[Allison Kuch]

That shows how much I know.

[Isaac Rochelle]

I'm like, Rabel is the new head coach of the Patriots. Aaron Glenn, by the way, was the jets guy that I blanked on his name earlier. But you're like, congrats, congrats. I think the Patriots are going to be. Are going to be good, but I think it's going to be even. There's so many good you think about the afc. There's so much.

[Allison Kuch]

Are you just saying that because our favorite couple went to the Patriots?

[Isaac Rochelle]

Scott Booker, who recruited me at Notre Dame, is now coaching for the Patriots too. I was texting him today about blame.

[Allison Kuch]

You going to come out of retirement?

[Isaac Rochelle]

Yeah, I. Listen, if the Patriots wanted to sign me, I would come out of retirement today.

[Allison Kuch]

Really?

[Isaac Rochelle]

Absolutely. I'd be a. I would be such a good special teams guy right now. I wish I would have been this way when I played.

[Allison Kuch]

Okay, New England Patriots.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Just give me a workout. Give me a workout. I will go work out. I would actually love if a team gave me a workout now, because I think I'd do a lot better than. Actually, I'm. I'm tripping. Yeah, I'm tripping.

[Allison Kuch]

You're tripping.

[Isaac Rochelle]

I've been sprinting.

[Allison Kuch]

Because you're running marathons.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Yeah, you're. My whole nervous system's different. I scratch everything.

[Allison Kuch]

I said, no, no, no, no. Call them. That would be fun.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Patriots, though. But I think it's going to be even. Especially in the afc, but I think the Patriots are going to be really, really good.

[Allison Kuch]

What are you both looking forward to in this new chapter of your life?

[Isaac Rochelle]

New chapter? Being post retirement.

[Allison Kuch]

Yeah.

[Isaac Rochelle]

I think the sky is the limit for us. I feel like. I feel like there was such a ceiling in the NFL. Like, I feel like I'm starting a new career. I'm 30. I look around at the people that are in my career now. They're all much older than me. So it tells me two things. One, I can do it for a long time. And two, I'm ahead of schedule. So I'm just like, I'm head down grinding at everything I do. But I. If. And for you, too, like, it's like the sky's the limit.

[Allison Kuch]

It's kind of like a new era. It's weird because, like, the, like, not even rebranding because, like, I'm still the same person. But it is. It is interesting having, like, okay, what. What do I want the next few years to look like? Like, what are my short term goals? What are my long term goals? I do feel like for a long time I was kind of sacrificing, like, stuff I wanted to do because I was like, okay, I gotta move to Cleveland, Gotta move to Indiana. Like, kind of putting some stuff on hold that now I really want to be, like, more in the community that I live in.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Yeah.

[Allison Kuch]

Which I've never talked about this online, I don't think before, but I really want to open a coffee shop. And like, literally in the beginning works to do that, which is going to make me a lot more busy. I was like, I want to slow down. I don't think that's going to happen. But just like, I just feel like there are, like, different goals that now I have. And it's weird because it feels more of like, an open pasture.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Yeah. You're definitely in a discovery phase, which I think is good. It's the first time in your life, really, that you've been in a discovery phase.

[Allison Kuch]

Maybe that's why I'm having a little midlife crisis.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Yeah.

[Allison Kuch]

But it's also a. It's so interesting because, like, at the age of 30, like, we, like, built our dream home. We own our home. We, like, have money from the NFL. Like, we are so far ahead of, like, what people typically are at the age of 30. And it's like, the NFL gave us, like, this jumpstart to our life, and now it's like, okay, like, what are you. What are you passionate about? What do you want to do? And it's actually like, I'm so grateful for that because now we kind of get to, like, what makes me happy. I thought about going back to nursing school.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Yeah. I'm like, let's not. Wait.

[Allison Kuch]

You don't want me to.

[Isaac Rochelle]

No.

[Allison Kuch]

Wow. Wait, really?

[Isaac Rochelle]

I mean, if I. You. You asked me a yes or no question, so I'm just saying. No. I can explain, but.

[Allison Kuch]

Okay. That's weird. I supported you for seven years in the NFL. Moved to Indiana and Cleveland, but. Okay, noted.

[Isaac Rochelle]

I mean, start tomorrow. Let's roll. I'll be your biggest fan.

[Allison Kuch]

That's not what you just said.

[Isaac Rochelle]

It's all relative, though. We're. The. The journey is relative. Like, it's just our version of it. But, yeah, 30s will be fun.

[Allison Kuch]

Do you have anything exciting coming up?

[Isaac Rochelle]

New job.

[Allison Kuch]

Yeah, Isaac has a new job. Hasn't put pen to paper just yet. It's funny because with the NFL, we're so used to waiting to, like, announce exciting news because we're like, well, what if you get cut before you get signed? I don't know, but it's weird because it's, like, an actual job.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Well, it's. You bring up a good point.

[Allison Kuch]

The NFL was a real job.

[Isaac Rochelle]

No, but it's.

[Allison Kuch]

It was very real. Yeah, it was very real.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Yeah, but you can have a bad practice and lose it, right? It's not like that in this world. Like, I sign, they can't. I could sue them if they just release me. It's not like. It's not the same way. So you bring up a good point. I was gonna say, if the NFL does force you to be very fight or flight when it comes to work, everything is like, everything matters. Every. Every situation matters. You're gonna lose your job. This is not that. Now, that's a healthy place to be, because I'm gonna grind at it. But starting a new job, I am gonna full send with the marathon thing. Running a marathon in four weeks. It'll be my first official marathon. And then I want to do an ultra marathon, which I feel like even that seems crazy to talk about, but it'll be fun. And then my podcast, which has been a blast, interviewed Gavin Newsom, which was crazy.

[Allison Kuch]

Yeah. I'm actually so happy you brought up your podcast, because why the fudge does my husband have a podcast? And I've never been a guest.

[Isaac Rochelle]

I'm ready when you are.

[Allison Kuch]

I'm actually so curious.

[Isaac Rochelle]

How long do we have the studio for?

[Allison Kuch]

I. I know you want to ask questions to guests that you have on your podcast, like, that have never been asked before. I want people to. To go over to Isaac's Instagram DMs and submit questions that you've been dying to know, and I'll answer them like no topic is off the table.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Well, we have the same social person. She'll edit this, and we can do a joint post, and we can see what people would suggest.

[Allison Kuch]

Yeah, I'm an open book, but I do feel like there are things that I have never talked about.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Oh, for your episode, it would just be fishbowl. We'd pull questions out, and it would just. You have to.

[Allison Kuch]

I'm kind of scared.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Good.

[Allison Kuch]

Great. I'm gonna get canceled anyways. Rapid fire. Before we end today's episode, I always do this with my guests, and I'm excited.

[Isaac Rochelle]

I don't know. I feel like I have to close my eyes to do it.

[Allison Kuch]

No, you can definitely leave them open. Vintage jerseys or modern vintage. Flag football or touch football?

[Isaac Rochelle]

Flag football.

[Allison Kuch]

Be the funniest in the room or the smartest.

[Isaac Rochelle]

The smartest would be funny. Generally, the funniest person is the smartest. I feel like you have to be witty. You have to be smart to be witty.

[Allison Kuch]

Maybe hot tub or cold Plunge for recovery.

[Isaac Rochelle]

I mean, we're getting into. I could get detailed with this.

[Allison Kuch]

These are my fucking rapid fire questions. Isaac, say generally, it's not your podcast.

[Isaac Rochelle]

I would say J. That's a tough question. Cold. Cold tub.

[Allison Kuch]

Really? Coaching Scotty's team or watching from the sidelines?

[Isaac Rochelle]

Coaching? The last thing I need is a coach that doesn't know what they're doing. Coaching my daughter.

[Allison Kuch]

Who is the goat? Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady?

[Isaac Rochelle]

It's Tom Brady. More rings, longer career, obviously.

[Allison Kuch]

Does he have more rings?

[Isaac Rochelle]

Yeah.

[Allison Kuch]

How many more, Isaac? If you're gonna be on football, you're gonna know that.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Let's see, Mahomes has three. Correct. And then. And it has seven. Brady has seven. Rings. That's crazy. I played seven and then from a wife and he has. I mean.

[Allison Kuch]

Sorry.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Brady came out and said he neglected his family during his football career. How could he not say that, though?

[Allison Kuch]

I love people when people are self aware. Being a podcast guest or a podcast host.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Host.

[Allison Kuch]

I like being a guest.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Really?

[Allison Kuch]

Yeah. Because I feel like I like answering questions. I'm self absorbed. Anyways, thank you guys so much for tuning in to this episode of Sunday Sports Club Podcast. Be sure to tune in next Sunday. Thank you so much for listening. And Isaac, thanks for coming on.

[Isaac Rochelle]

Anytime. Same time tomorrow.

[Allison Kuch]

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