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Podcast: Suze Orman's Women & Money (And Everyone Smart Enough To Listen)
Episode: The Number One Piece of Advice for Investors Today
Date: November 16, 2025
Host: Suze Orman
Guest: Keith Fitz-Gerald

Main Theme

This episode of Suze Orman’s Women & Money podcast is a "Suze School" special, featuring recurring guest and investment strategist Keith Fitz-Gerald. Suze and Keith break down recent market volatility, discuss investing psychology, and share practical advice for investors at every level—focusing especially on why long-term, diversified, and emotion-free investing is the best path forward. Their core message: volatility fuels opportunity, and being a disciplined, educated investor is the surest way to build wealth over time.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Market Volatility: What’s Really Happening

• Market turbulence context:
  Last week’s market moves were spurred by large institutional activity, notably "Mr. Burry," which triggered computer-driven funds to react in bulk. (02:38–03:29)
• The ripple effect:
  Institutional moves lead to cascades of selling and buying as automated trading systems react to one another, creating rapid, sometimes exaggerated, market movements.
• Suze’s analogy:
  “When somebody sells a stock, somebody has to buy that stock.” (04:26)
• Keith’s response:
  “For every seller, there is a buyer. Because that’s the side of the equation you want to be on, is the buying, not the selling.” (05:21)

2. Handling Gains and Preventing Emotional Investing

• Locking in gains with ‘free trades’:
  If a stock doubles, sell half to cover your original investment—this way, “you now own it for free.” (06:45–07:13)
• Managing the greed instinct:
  Keith: “That’s your greed gland working overtime. And you need to get that out of the equation. Keep your emotions off the table.” (07:58)
• Reinvesting proceeds:
  Taking profits allows flexibility, including reinvesting in other promising areas rather than doubling down on a single (possibly overextended) stock. (09:06–09:11)

3. Building and Balancing a Portfolio

• Don’t obsess over daily portfolio value:
  Suze encourages listeners to look at portfolio concentration rather than just daily gains and losses.
  “Do I have too much in one area? Am I too much just in AI?” (09:38)
• Diversification is key:
  Suze shares how other sectors in her portfolio stabilized losses from AI stocks.
• Keith’s “must-have portfolio”:
  Focus on companies that will endure for decades, changing the world, not just on “hot stocks.” (10:39–12:52)
• Quote:
  “The number one piece of advice to investors listening today is you need to forget about the hot stocks. What you need to focus on is the stocks that are going to be there in 10, 20, 30 years when you need them.” – Keith (11:07)

4. When to Sell and the Golden Rule

• Sensible selling:
  Only sell if your original investment thesis no longer applies.
• Keith’s principle:
  “If you buy a great company because it’s great… ask yourself on a big down day: do all the reasons for which I bought this company still exist? If yes, grit your teeth and hold on.” (13:36)
• Example of not losing discipline:
  Cites Apple: “If Apple suddenly turned around and decided it was shifting 100% … to making swimming pools, I’d be gone like a shot.” (14:07)

5. Getting Started: Process for New Investors

• Congratulate yourself for starting:
  Keith: “The decision to invest is one of the hardest decisions you will ever make in your life. So, number one, absolute golf clap.” (15:28)
• Consistency is everything:
  Regular investing through dollar-cost averaging evens out volatility risk.
• ETFs vs. Single Stocks:
  If limited funds, begin with a broad-market ETF like VOO (S&P 500) for diversification, then layer in individual stocks as you grow.
  “A broad market ETF is probably as good as any…” (16:40)
• Don’t chase microcaps:
  Small stocks rarely deliver outsized returns; favor proven large companies (with the occasional exception like Palantir).
  “What you normally want to do is stick with the great big companies and you can buy fractional shares, many brokerages.” (17:43)

6. Fractional Shares & Portfolio Construction

• Fractional shares give flexibility:
  With limited capital, buy slices of several big stocks—don’t limit yourself to full shares of just one or two.
  Suze: “Rather than just one share, one share of maybe two stocks … fractional shares of like five stocks of 10 stocks…” (20:05)
• Avoid brokers that don’t offer fractional shares:
  “You probably shouldn’t be dealing with a broker who doesn’t do fractional shares.” (19:58)
• Individual investors have the advantage:
  “The control you have and your position as an individual investor is something Wall Street wishes it had. It’s the greatest gift in the world to be able to play this game little at a time…” – Keith (21:13)

7. Mindset: Investing Is Not Gambling

• Suze’s warning:
  “We have to be careful … when we use words like ‘game.’ Cause this isn’t a game. This is most people’s life ... they think it’s like gambling. It’s not for them.” (22:02)
• Combine financial planning with investing:
  Don’t neglect behind-the-scenes work like retirement accounts, estate plans, and trusts. (22:39)
• Suze and Keith as the “dynamic duo”:
  Their blend of personal finance and investment expertise is offered as a unique, comprehensive resource.

8. Key Takeaways and Action Items

• Invest consistently, ideally via dollar-cost averaging.
• Diversify your holdings; don’t overweight “hot” sectors.
• Use fractional shares to maximize diversification, even with small amounts.
• Focus on companies with lasting, demonstrable value, not just hype.
• Check that your broker offers flexible tools like fractional shares.
• Don’t make financial decisions out of fear or greed—stick to an unemotional, disciplined approach.
• Expand beyond your employer retirement account: Consider opening a Roth IRA for more flexibility and control. (23:52)
• People first:
  “You have to learn, you have to know what you need to do… people first. Then you’ll know what to do with your money...” – Suze (24:43)

Memorable Quotes

• [05:21] Keith: “The deeper and steeper this sell off, the more opportunity there is on the other side for investors who understand that for every seller, there is a buyer.”
• [07:58] Keith: “That’s your greed gland working overtime. And you need to get that out of the equation. Keep your emotions off the table.”
• [11:07] Keith: “The number one piece of advice to investors listening today is you need to forget about the hot stocks. What you need to focus on is the stocks that are going to be there in 10, 20, 30 years when you need them.”
• [13:36] Keith: “If you buy a great company because it’s great… on a big down day, do all the reasons for which I bought this company still exist? If the answer is yes, you grit your teeth, hold your breath … but you hold on.”
• [21:13] Keith: “The control you have and your position as an individual investor is something Wall Street wishes it had.”
• [23:52] Suze: “If you’re not investing in Roths, if you’re doing traditional retirement accounts, you are making the biggest mistake you could possibly make.”

Timestamps for Important Segments

• 01:08 — Suze sets the scene, introduces Keith Fitz-Gerald and the week’s volatility
• 02:38 — Keith explains institutional impact and computer-driven selling
• 04:26 — Suze highlights the importance of understanding “someone must buy what you sell”
• 06:45 — Keith explains the “free trade” strategy for taking profits
• 09:38 — Suze and Keith discuss portfolio diversification
• 10:39 — Keith reveals “the number one piece of advice” for investors
• 13:36 — When to hold or sell a stock: Keith’s golden rule
• 15:28 — Getting started as a new investor—mindset and strategy
• 16:40 — ETFs, dollar cost averaging, and picking stocks vs. funds
• 19:41 — Using fractional shares; how to allocate a small portfolio
• 21:13 — Individual investors have key advantages over institutions
• 22:02 — Investing is not gambling: importance of planning and discipline
• 23:52 — Suze’s call to action: prioritize Roth accounts and take investing control

Tone and Style

The conversation is lively, insightful, and supportive, with Suze providing accessible analogies and reassuring guidance, while Keith brings technical credibility and a global market perspective. The tone encourages listeners to educate themselves, act confidently, and use market volatility to their advantage—all while taking personal responsibility and prioritizing long-term goals.

Final Message

Suze’s closing advice:
“People first. You have got to put yourself first in terms of... You have to learn, you have to know what you need to do… Then you’ll know what to do with your money and then you’ll have the money to buy things. Stay safe, stay secure. Until next time, know we love you.” (24:43)

This episode is a concise masterclass in investment mindset, emphasizing education, discipline, and empowerment for all investors—whether you’re starting out or refining your strategy amid market swings.