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Switched on Pop
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Listen closer to pop music, and hear how it moves us. Hosted by musicologist Nate Sloan & songwriter Charlie Harding. From Vulture and the Vox Media Podcast Network.
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Can Bruno Mars counterprogram his way to another hit album?
Mar 300:44:52Tap to summarizeBruno Mars is back with a new album called The Romantic, his first solo release since 2016’s 24k Magic. At first listen, the lead single, “I Just Might,” sounds like an outtake from 2021’s collaborative album with Anderson Paak, the Philly soul-inspired An Evening with Silk Sonic. Listen closer though and another element emerges: a fast-paced conga drum line. The rest of Mars’s nine-track confection chases that Latin influence. This is not just another retread of 70s funk and soul. In fact, The Romantic makes the case that Mars is pop’s great counter-programmer, finding styles of the past that no one else has yet mined. Charlie and Nate break down all the new territory covered by Mars, from Latin boleros to Cuban cha chas, Nuyorican boogaloo to a mariachi “My Way.” The results may not change your mind about Mars, but they might make you appreciate the finer points of what is sure to be an omnipresent new release. Links: Newsletter, YouTube Songs discussed: Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars - Die With A Smile ROSÉ, Bruno Mars - APT. Bruno Mars - Risk It All Eydie Gormé, Los Panchos - Sabor a Mí Frank Sinatra - My Way Bruno Mars - Cha Cha Cha JUVENILE, Soulja Slim - Slow Motion Pete Rodriguez - I Like It Like That Cardi B, Bad Bunny, J Balvin - I Like It Young-Holt Unlimited - Soulful Strut Bruno Mars - I Just Might Redbone - Come and Get Your Love Leo Sayer - You Make Me Feel Like Dancing Junior Senior - Move Your Feet Bruno Mars - God Was Showing Off Billy Paul - Me and Mrs. Jones Bruno Mars - Why You Wanna Fight? Bruno Mars - On My Soul Curtis Mayfield - Move on Up Bruno Mars - Something Serious Willie Bobo - Evil Ways Santana - Evil Ways Santana - Oye Como Va Tito Puente - Oye Cómo Va Bruno Mars - Nothing Left Bruno Mars - Dance With Me Stephen Sanchez - Until I Found You Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Charli XCX’s "Wuthering Heights" fever dream
Feb 2400:48:13Tap to summarizeEmerald Fennell's new adaptation of Emily Brontë's 1847 gothic romance "Wuthering Heights" is the most talked-about film of the year. But for pop lovers, the soundtrack is the real event: Charli xcx, asked to write one song, ended up recording an entire album for the movie while in the middle of the BRAT tour. If BRAT gave people permission to be messy on the dance floor, this score gives permission to be messy in your souls. But Charli isn't the first artist to channel "Wuthering Heights" into music. Line up her hyperpop strings and cavernous reverb against Kate Bush's winding harmonies, a Hollywood orchestral score from 1939, and Ryuichi Sakamoto's unsettled piano, and something surprising emerges: the most operatic, passionate, Wuthering Heights-obsessed recording of them all might belong to someone you'd never expect.Songs discussed: Charli xcx “Everything is Romantic” Charli xcx “Always Everywhere” Charli xcx “House” (feat. John Cale) Hans Zimmer “Inception score” Charli xcx “Wall of Sound” Ike & Tina Turner “River Deep, Mountain High” Charli xcx “Chains of Love” Charli xcx “Out of Myself” Charli xcx “Funny Mouth” (co-written with Joe Curie) Alfred Newman “Wuthering Heights score (1939)” Ryuichi Sakamoto “Wuthering Heights score (1992)” Kate Bush “Wuthering Heights” Celine Dion “It’s All Coming Back to Me Now” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Will Sinners do for blues what O Brother did for bluegrass?
Feb 1700:51:04Tap to summarizeIt's the middle of award season, and Ryan Coogler's ode to the Black music canon Sinners has emerged as the Oscars frontrunner and the most nominated film in Academy Awards history. The love the movie has for the Delta blues is front and center, and begs the question: will the movie's legacy help bring the blues back into popular culture? There's already been a precedent for films reviving dead genres – think The Sting and its ragtime score, or O Brother Where Art Thou's relationship to bluegrass – and on this episode of Switched On Pop, Reanna and Nate talk with Vulture writer Fran Hoepfner about the times in which movie soundtracks have shifted the musical culture. Read Fran's piece on movie scoring, The Death of the Classic Film Score, here. Songs discussed: Miles Caton – I Lied to You Bee Gees – Stayin' Alive Underworld – Born Slippy (Nuxx) Marvin Hamlisch – The Entertainer Wu-Tang Clan – Fast Shadow Bee Gees – More Than A Woman Whitney Houston – I Have Nothing Harry McClintock – The Big Rock Candy Mountain Alison Krauss – Down To The River To Pray The Soggy Bottom Boys – I Am A Man Of Constant Sorrow *NSYNC – Bye Bye Bye The Brian Setzer Orchestra – Jump Jive An' Wail Cab Calloway – Minnie the Moocher Royal Crown Revue – Hey Pachuco! Caravan Palace – Lone Digger Big Bad Voodoo Daddy – Go Daddy O Squirrel Nut Zippers – Hell Fergie, Q-Tip, GoonRock – A Little Party Never Killed Nobody Lana Del Rey – Young And Beautiful Max Richter – On the Nature of Daylight Kavinsky – Nightcall College, Electric Youth – A Real Hero M83 – Midnight City The Weeknd – Take My Breath Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Jazz is A$AP Rocky’s secret weapon
Feb 1000:35:54Tap to summarizeA$AP Rocky’s latest album, Don’t Be Dumb, is a wild ride through a cacophony of sounds — punk, industrial, drum ‘n’ bass, indie rock, and of course, hip hop. But on one track, “Robbery,” he and the rising superstar Doechii sample the world of jazz, specifically Thelonious Monk’s 1955 cover of Duke Ellington’s “Caravan.” In the process, Rocky and Doechii don’t just loop and flow, they create a whole narrative of jazz age victors and villains inspired by the rhythms and harmonies of jazz greats. The result is a song, and album, that makes the case for why hip hop matters more than ever in 2026. A$AP Rocky – ROBBERY (feat. Doechii) A$AP Rocky – STOLE YA FLOW A$AP Rocky – ORDER OF PROTECTION A$AP Rocky – PLAYA A$AP Rocky – STFU (feat. Slay Squad) A$AP Rocky – AIR FORCE (BLACK DEMARCO) A$AP Rocky – THE END (feat. will.i.am & Jessica Pratt) Kendrick Lamar - For Free? - Interlude Clairo - Sinking Thelonious Monk - Caravan A$AP Rocky - L$D Lou Donaldson - Ode To Billie Joe Thelonious Monk - Black And Tan Fantasy Wu-Tang Clan - Shame On a N**** Duke Ellington, John Coltrane - My Little Brown Book Ghostface Killah - Malcolm Thundercat - Them Changes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Does humor belong in music?
Feb 300:48:19Tap to summarizeWhat makes Weird Al songs so indelible? Why is Bo Burnham more than just a comic? How do the biggest pop hits make us crack up in the middle of a somber ballad? Humor is always present in music, but we rarely confront it head on. Until now. With the help of Comedian Chris Duffy, author of the book Humor Me: How Laughing Can Make You More Connected, Present, and Happy, and a series of lyrical submission from our listeners, we try to answer the question once posed by Frank Zappa, once and for all: Does humor belong in music? Songs discussed: Sabrina Carpenter – ManchildMarcia Belsky – 100 TamponsBo Burnham – From God’s PerspectiveSnoop Dogg – Gin and JuiceThe Gourds – Gin and JuiceTaylor Swift – All Too Well (10 Minute Version)“Weird Al” Yankovic – Amish Paradise“Weird Al” Yankovic – My BolognaStevie Wonder – Pastime ParadiseCoolio – Gangsta’s ParadiseBo Burnham – That Funny FeelingBo Burnham – FaceTime With My MomElaine Stritch – Are You Having Any Fun?Barenaked Ladies – If I Had $1,000,000Kendrick Lamar – Not Like UsEminem – The Real Slim Shady2 Chainz – Birthday SongLil Jon – Snap Yo FingersOlivia Rodrigo – Get Him BackChappell Roan – CasualAudrey Hobert – I like to touch peopleAudrey Hobert – Bowling alleyJensen McRae – Immune Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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And the Grammy goes to…
Jan 2700:52:12Tap to summarizeThe ultimate gauntlet of popular music is upon us once again: it's Grammy season, and this year, the competition is pretty tight across the board. Big ticket A-listers like Bad Bunny, Sabrina Carpenter, Kendrick Lamar, and Lady Gaga occupy three of the four big categories (Song, Record, and Album of the Year), while folks like Olivia Dean, Lola Young, Leon Thomas, and Addison Rae duke it out in Best New Artist. On this episode of Switched on Pop, Charlie, Nate, and Reanna take a look at the "big four" categories, and stump for their respective frontrunners in order to predict who will be taking home a golden phonograph (or two). Links: Newsletter, YouTube Songs discussed: Bad Bunny – DtMF Lady Gaga – Abracadabra Sabrina Carpenter – Manchild Kendrick Lamar – squabble up Olivia Dean – Nice To Each Other Olivia Dean – Man I Need Lola Young – Messy Addison Rae – Headphones On Addison Rae – New York Addison Rae – Fame is a Gun Kendrick Lamar, SZA – luther Billie Eilish – WILDFLOWER HUNTR/X – Golden Chappell Roan – The Subway Kendrick Lamar – tv off (feat. lefty gunplay) Justin Bieber – ALL I CAN TAKE Bad Bunny – NUEVAYoL Bad Bunny – VOY A LLeVARTE PA PR Bad Bunny – LO QUE LE PASÓ A HAWAii Bad Bunny – LA MuDANZA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Robyn’s new songs bring “drum 'n' grace” to the dance floor
Jan 2100:46:20Tap to summarizeSwedish pop star Robyn emerged as a phenomenon in the mid 1990s, an ingenue whose work with Max Martin presaged the R&B crossover hits of acts like Britney and the Backstreet Boys. Since her debut, she’s released a string of albums that have shaped the sound of dance music as we know it. Now, Robyn is releasing her first new album in eight years, Sexistential, and she’s given us three singles made up of her signature combination of thumping bass and ethereal vocals, while innovating into new personal –and vulnerable — territory. With raps about IVF, references to Blondie, a return to her collaboration with Max Martin, and our introduction of “drum n grace” to the lexicon, this episode is manna for Robyn fans and tyros alike. Stick around as we unveil a new feature, “Quick Hits,” a down-and-dirty carousel ride through the most interesting new releases, from ASAP Rocky to Zach Bryan. Songs discussed: Robyn – Dopamine Robyn – Show Me Love Charli XCX, Robyn, Yung Lean – 360 remix Jamie XX, Robyn – Life Robyn – Konichiwa Bitches Blondie – Rapture Robyn – Honey Robyn – Missing U Robyn – Call Your Girlfriend Taio Cruz – Dynamite Robyn – Play Robyn – Talk to Me Robyn – Do You Know (What It Takes) Robyn – Sexistential Andre 3000 – I Swear, I Really Wanted to Make a 'Rap' Album but This Is Literally the Way the Wind Blew Me This Time Robyn – Cobrastyle Robyn – Dancing On My Own A$AP Rocky – PUNK ROCKY Zach Bryan – Plastic Cigarette David Byrne – Driver's License Moonchild – Up From Here Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Audrey Hobert says the quiet part out loud
Jan 1300:55:16Tap to summarizeTwo years ago, Audrey Hobert had never written a song. She was a staff writer on a Nickelodeon series and had recently moved in with her childhood friend Gracie Abrams in Los Angeles. About six months later, a phrase spoken by a heartbroken acquaintance caught their attention; Hobert and Abrams sang it back to each other and wrote a complete song that night. Within the following year, Hobert co-wrote songs including “I Love You, I’m Sorry” and “Risk” for Abrams’s number-two album The Secret of Us. When the television show she was working on was later canceled, Hobert made a hard pivot into her own music. What happened was Who's the Clown, a debut album where every track came from Hobert's own pen. In this live conversation recorded at NYU Steinhardt's Music and Performing Arts Professions program at Chelsea Studios, Hobert traces her path from dance classes choreographed to One Direction to eight-hour writing sessions that yield two good lines on a lucky day. She explains why she can't write in front of anyone, why she refuses to repeat a chorus three times, and why the Steve Martin documentary made her open her album with the disarmingly strange declaration: "I like to touch people." The conversation moves from craft to confession as Hobert reflects on what it means to finally be looked at, and whether the view from inside the spotlight is everything she'd imagined. Subscribe to the Newsletter to play along with our annual bingo predictions (last episode) SONGS DISCUSSED Gracie Abrams "I Love You, I'm Sorry" Gracie Abrams "That's So True" Smash Mouth "All Star" One Direction "Kiss You" Audrey Hobert "Wet Hair" Audrey Hobert "Chateau" Audrey Hobert "I Like to Touch People" Audrey Hobert "Sex in the City" Audrey Hobert "Sue Me" Audrey Hobert "Bowling Alley" Semisonic "Closing Time" Audrey Hobert "Silver Jubilee" Audrey Hobert "Don't Go Back to His Ass" Audrey Hobert "Shooting Star" Black Eyed Peas "I Gotta Feeling" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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2026 Pop Predictions: big beat, animated avatars, and Bruno Mars
Jan 600:58:47Tap to summarizeIt’s a brand new year, and what better way to ring it in than with the second annual Switched On Pop bingo? Like last year, Charlie, Nate, and Reanna polish their crystal balls and play Popstradamus, each throwing out eight outlandish pop predictions for the coming months. This time, there’s piano ballads, cover songs, and what Charlie calls the impending “death of auto-tune.” Get your own bingo card to play along through our Newsletter! Find us on YouTube! Songs discussed: The Prodigy – Firestarter The Chemical Brothers – Block Rockin’ Beats Basement Jaxx – Jump ’N Shout Fatboy Slim – The Rockafeller Skank Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars – Die With A Smile Benson Boone – Beautiful Things Post Malone, Ozzy Osbourne, Travis Scott – Take What You Want LCD Soundsystem – Losing My Edge Anamanaguchi, Hatsune Miku – Miku Crazy Frog – Axel F Hampton The Hamster – Hampsters Get the Blues K/DA – POP/STARS Madison Beer – make you mine Forrest Frank – YOUR WAY’S BETTER Tate McRae – Sports car Tata Taktumi, Timbaland – Pulse x Glitch PARTYNEXTDOOR, Drake, Yebba – DIE TRYING The Mighty Mighty Bosstones – The Impression That I Get Maddox Batson – Tears In The River JAY-Z – D.O.A. (Death Of Autotune) Adele – Someone Like You Bruno Mars – When I Was Your Man Lewis Capaldi – Someone You Loved Rihanna, Mikky Ekko – Stay Baauer – Harlem Shake Billie Eilish – bury a friend This Is Lorelei, MJ Lenderman – Dancing in the Club – MJ Lenderman Version WITCH – Once In A Lifetime MOLIY, Shenseea, Silent Addy, Skillibeng – Shake It To The Max (FLY) – Remix Geese – Bow Down Turnstile – LOOK OUT FOR ME Rebecca Black – Sugar Water Cyanide Bad Bunny – DtMF Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The classical rebel who infiltrated pop music
Aug 26Tap to summarizeYou've heard those shimmering disco strings in Miley Cyrus's "Flowers," the cinematic arrangements on Phoebe Bridgers' Punisher, and the orchestral flourishes across Taylor Swift's catalog, but you probably didn't know they're all the work of one person: Rob Moose. The violinist and multi-instrumentalist has contributed to nearly 1,000 albums, quietly becoming pop music's most prolific string architect. In this conversation, Moose reveals how he translates classical training into contemporary pop language, working with everyone from Sufjan Stevens to Bon Iver to create arrangements that feel both intimate and epic. We dive into his process, explore how he's reshaped what strings can do in popular music, and uncover the craft behind those arrangements you can't get out of your head. MORE Subscribe to our newsletter to receive your own bingo card! Songs Discussed Miley Cyrus “Flowers” Phoebe Bridgers “Punisher” Phoebe Bridgers Copycat Killer (EP, includes re-arranged versions of “Punisher,” “Kyoto,” “Savior Complex,” “Chinese Satellite”) Sufjan Stevens “Chicago” Bon Iver “Everything Is Peaceful Love” RINI “Miracle” Bon Iver “Short Story” Bon Iver “Speyside” Phoebe Bridgers “Chinese Satellite” Phoebe Bridgers “Savior Complex” Phoebe Bridgers “Kyoto” Lizzy McAlpine “Ceilings” Gracie Abrams “I Love You, I’m Sorry” Rob Moose “I Bend But Never Break” ft Brittany Howard Alabama Shakes “Sound & Color” Taylor Swift “Hoax” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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