
ESA approves $1.6B for space defense across its 23 member states. A German astronaut will join Artemis 4. Deloitte taps Spire for 8 satellites. And more.
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Today is December 2nd, 2025. I'm Alice Carruth and this is T minus.
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Iridium has been awarded a contract from U.S. space Force's Space Systems Command Commercial Space Office with a potential value of up to $85.8 million. Spire Global has been selected by Gist Research to provide soil moisture insights for a study mapping climate driven pastoralist movement in Ethiopia's Somali region. Deloitte has contracted Spire Global to design, build and operate eight satellites for Deloitte's On Orbit Cyber payloads. The European Space Agency has said that a German astronaut will be the first European to fly to the moon with a future NASA led Artemis mission. The European Space Agency has approved a 1.3 billion euro spending plan to support space defense programs across its 23 member. After today's headlines, we'll be hearing from Christina Omri, Director for Special Programs for Cybexa Technologies. Cybexa has partnered with the European Space Agency on their Space Cyber Range. Our producer Liz Stokes met with Christina in Tallinn, Estonia yesterday and we'll be bringing you that chat later on. Happy Tuesday everyone. On yesterday's show we opened up with a new funding announcement by the European Space Agency member states and said we'll be bringing you updates when those funds started being spent. Well, here we are already. The European Space Agency has approved a new three year 1.3 billion euros, that's $1.6 billion spending plan to support space defense programs across its 23 member states. The announcement follows the trend in Europe to include space in more defence plans. The Council released a statement saying the clear mandate for use of space applications for non aggressive defence purposes signifies a historic change for esa. Non dependence in technology is key to advancing Europe's ambitions in space alongside its guaranteed access to space. Now some of you may be thinking, haven't we heard about this before? Well yes you have, but not from the Space Agency, but from the European Union and their European Resilience from Space effort known as ers. Although there looks to be some crossover, ESA is independent from the EU and has other plans for its spending that may run with or independent of the ERs. Check out the Breaking News article included in today's Selected Reading section of the Show Notes for more details. And what of Europe's lunar ambitions? It seems that they're still strong and now we know the nationality of the ESA astronaut that would join the first global Artemis mission. The European Space Agency has said that a German astronaut will be the first European to fly to the moon with a future NASA led Artemis mission. It isn't a big surprise as Germany is the largest contributor to the ESA coffers. It begs the question of who, and right now it's anyone's guess. Germany has two experienced astronauts among the ESA Astronaut Corp and both have spent months at the International Space Station. They also have two astronauts in ESA's reserve team. However, neither have flown to space yet, making the two veterans the most likely contenders for that coveted Artemis IV seat. Deloitte has contracted SPIRE Global to design, build and operate eight satellites. The satellites, when complete, will support Deloitte's on orbit cyber payloads as well as its space data capabilities for commercial and government clients. The eight satellites will carry advanced radio frequency and geolocation payloads and and will serve as a platform for advancing Deloitte's Silent shield mission to further innovate in satellite vehicle defense and resilience. SPIRE has collaborated with Deloitte to test and validate Deloitte's Cyber Intrusion Detection System payload for satellites in orbit. It aims to strengthen the resilience and security of space systems against cyber threats. Silent shield utilizes spire's advanced satellite technology, helping Deloitte study real time satellite signaling patterns and evaluate the detection and mitigation of cyber anomalies. And that's not the only big news for spire. They've also been selected by GIST Research to provide soil moisture insights for a study mapping climate driven pastoralist movement in Ethiopia's Somali region. GIST is an independent research and advisory consultancy specialising in fragile and climate affected contexts. The data will feed into the International Organization for Migration's transhumanenance tracking tool, a system designed by the UN Agency to observe herder movements and mitigate conflict risks. The pilot aims to strengthen early warning systems that monitor environmental and livelihood stress in one of Africa's most climate exposed regions where scarce resources can heighten competition and foster tensions between communities. The resulting insights are expected to inform evidence based policies, guide authorities and partners in their interventions and contribute to conflict prevention efforts. It's an amazing example of how space continues to aid us here on Spaceship Earth. Iridium has been awarded a contract from the US Space Force's Space Systems Command Commercial Space Office with a potential value of up to $85.8 million. The five year IDIQ system infrastructure transformation and Hybridization contract enables technological refreshes, lifecycle upgrades and security enhancements to the Enhanced Mobile Satellite Services, Service Center, Technical Support Centre and Defence Ground Station. The contract is a follow on to the Gateway Evolution contract awarded to Iridium in 2019. That wraps up today's headlines, but there's other stories that we're keeping an eye on. N2K's lead audio engineer Trey Hester joins us now with a look at those stories. What do you have for us, Trey?
Trey Hester
Hey Alice. We've included three additional articles in today's selected reading. The first one comes from the South China Morning Post on how China pulled off its recent Shenzhou rescue mission. And then there's announcements from Wenbo river on their investment in Odyssey space research and another with Aichelon partnering with ISCI to create 3D operational terrain visualizations. And as a reminder, those links can be found on our website space.n2k.com regular.
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Our producer Liz Stokes has been in Estonia this week with host Maria Varmazes. They were invited by NATO to witness a cybersecurity exercise. There's going to be a lot more on that in the coming weeks. While in Tallinn, Liz caught up with Christina Omri, Director of Special Programs for Cyber Exa Technologies. They're the company that has partnered with ESA on the cyber range. I'll let Christina explain in further detail.
Christina Omri
Cybexor is Estonian based or headquartered company, but we do operate globally. So There are approximately 55 countries in which we have conducted different cybersecurity related projects or sold our technology. So we are a cybersecurity company on the preparedness side of cybersecurity.
Interviewer
And you guys provide cyber ranges for NATO and esa. What do those entail exactly?
Christina Omri
Yes, cyber range technology comes historically from military from the need to train and exercise also on the digital battlefield use the tools they would be using in the actual operations, but to do it in a simulated environment so that the real systems do not get harmed.
Interviewer
And how do you research for cyber instances in space?
Christina Omri
So space is interesting domain. How did we get into the space project wars through the military. At some point military started asking besides the other domain also for the elements from the space because as also the current conflicts around the world and war has shown that the space based assets are crucial for the information.
Interviewer
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Can you go a little bit further into like that like how do you guys defend against those types of things?
Christina Omri
So first of all it usually goes and how we do it, we bring the technologies to the cyber range, so to the simulation environment where we build up an infrastructure or digital twins of different technologies. And this is what we do also in the space domain. So we build it in. We build an infrastructure containing then a satellite, ground control station, mission control station, and also different other technologies when they make it relevant for the specific use case.
Interviewer
Do you have any examples of problems solved using the cyberspace range?
Christina Omri
The first aim of our solution is to improve the capabilities and skills in cybersecurity. Because first of all, in general in cybersecurity, there's a great lack of cybersecurity specialists around the world. There are millions of unfulfilled job places because there's just lack of suitable potential employees then. And when we even look at closer to the space segment, the gap there is also quite big. So we have space engineers, we have IT people, we have cybersecurity specialists. But how to combine those skills so that the cybersecurity specialists that come out of the universities would have understanding of space engineering, or vice versa, that the space engineers would already get from the beginning, the basics, key elements of cybersecurity, and maybe this is one of the specifics of space industry, is that the systems will be up there and running for quite a long time on the orbit. Once you finish them, you cannot take them down and relaunch it usually. So it has to be taken into account when engineering, but also designing the systems.
Interviewer
What do you want space companies to know about space and cybersecurity? Like what are you trying to explain to them?
Christina Omri
So we are a bit in a situation when everyone knows that they should pay attention on cybersecurity, but quite often there are so many other things to worry about and at the same time maybe also a bit of lack of knowledge what and how should we do it? So there's a bit of an elephant in the room. We know that there are a lot of legacy systems in the space industry. There have not been that many attacks that have been spoken openly about. There are a few. But it is a bit like a situation where the understanding and the perception can change very easily when something big happens. What we nowadays do not think, and probably you don't think that you rely every day in your work on space systems, but we both do when using the basic satellite information for the gps, but also for the weather forecast to see if it's snowy the next day or not. So this information we get through space, so it's not about only for the space industry, but it's part of the the way we live nowadays. Right, Right.
Interviewer
And I see there are a ton of televisions to our left here. Would you mind telling our audience what's going on, on these televisions. Explain them a little bit more.
Christina Omri
Yes. So the TV's here present different wheels from the cyber range. So cyber range is a platform for the hands on learning cyber skills. We build up the virtual environments, let's say digital twins, networks, everything. And the aim of the trainees there, be it a team based exercise or individual based exercise, is to go and see, depending of the scope of course, where are the vulnerabilities, what can I do to repair it, and so on and so forth. So this is one part of it that it's about the skills development and hence we can also take out the analytics. Where are they good at? What are the areas of improvement? What we say is it's never about pass and fail, it's about improving and learning. And this is also what we do. We can, on the cyber range we can clone the systems. So if we do and run a big military exercise, we clone the systems, the game nets for each team so that they would each get their playing field and get the learning experience. We can also do of course the shared targets if it's desired. But to have in mind this learning, learning, then it's best if everyone gets the same game that and has their then tasks and defense actions to be taken there.
Interviewer
Walk me through that process, what's that like?
Christina Omri
So if we talk about the exercise and let's say it's a team based exercise, then usually we prepare on the cyber range, those Gamnets we make sure with the customer, what are the necessary infrastructure components? Are there any of the security monitoring systems, internal networks, what are the other special systems that we connect to? If we talk about the space, then is there a, let's say a flat set, any of the mission control, ground control segments that need to be as part of the game net. And then once we have it ready, those are real virtual machines. So when the participant actually when the exercise starts, they log in and everything looks as it's real. So we do not compete with the ones who provide the cybersecurity training on paper based and theoretical materials. So we are really hands on.
Interviewer
What made you think that Talin was one of the best places to start this company to build up from here? I mean you think of space and you think of cyber and I think most people don't come to Estonia to think of that. So what made this place the best for you guys?
Christina Omri
Well, Tallinn has a bit of history with Cyber from the 2007, the cyber attacks against Estonia, so against the governmental institutions, but not only also commercials. So it started with attacks against the President's website. Okay. If you're a citizen of Estonia and the website of the President does not function, you can still continue your everyday life probably. But if your Internet bank does not respond anymore, then you feel it and it starts really having influence on your daily life. So this was 2007 and from this attack and the large scale attack we learned it even more clear that we have to put more emphasis on the, on the cyber. And out of this experience many good initiatives and things have grown out. Like the NATO CCDOE intellin providing the collaborative platform for the NATO and then other countries who have joined the CCDOE for those cybersecurity exercises and trainings and hence also the private sector and cybersecurity companies started growing. They started growing already before, but this definitely was another push towards it. So, and this is also where our company is a bit rooted in. So in this need after a collaborative training platform, I spoke about the training of people and upskilling them and so. But this type of platforms can also be used for the technology testings. So our core technology team has actually a background in NATO ccdoe and hand telling is a good, very untypical place for the cyber ranges because you can find different institutions and companies providing the cyber range solutions here. That's awesome. That's amazing.
Interviewer
Is there anything that you want to kind of talk to my audience about and like explain a little bit further? Is there anything that I missed?
Christina Omri
Well, it's a, it's a long topic and especially with a, with a space maybe angle is that there's a lot to do and there's. We, we have noticed that there's a growing interest and understanding a bit. There's still quite the understanding of the vulnerabilities. Also at the same time, when we still have this legacy systems, as I mentioned before, there still are newer solutions coming up. Also there are more commercial satellites up there with their commercial tasks so that the level of digitalization also is higher there. And when we base our business models on those satellites, the information and the exchange of information, it just becomes part of our everyday living here. At least this is one of the sites we want to explain and make more understandable to everyone. So it's not only about the real Australia now to go up there, it's about our old lives here on the planet Earth.
Alice Carruth
We'll be right back.
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Alice Carruth
Here's a fun question for you. What do asteroids taste like? We've covered space smells before, but not thought to ask if you'd lick a rock. That's an actual thing, y'.
Christina Omri
All.
Alice Carruth
Just ask your neighborhood geologist. I shared the results of new findings from the asteroid Bennu. Remember the Osiris Rex mission? And NASA titled the findings sugars gum stardust found in NASA's asteroid Bennu samples. And it got the team laughing in this morning's meeting. Would you look an asteroid? So I asked them, Dave, tell me, would you look an asteroid?
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Alice Carruth
With vigor. Jen, what's your feeling about this? I'm generally a cautious person, but I.
Interviewer
Think I probably would do it.
Alice Carruth
Craig, what do you think?
Trey Hester
I'd like to check with my scientist girlfriend first, but I'm going to say yes.
Alice Carruth
Good cautious answer. Mayan, what do you think? Would you look an asteroid just for science?
Christina Omri
I think the answer is yes, I.
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Alice Carruth
Elliot, what do you think?
Elliot Peltzman
For me, it just depends on how fast this asteroid is moving past my face. If I'm like sticking out my tongue and it's like the bullet train speeding past, then no. But if I'm on the asteroid and I'm moving the same speed as it, yes, if it's safe. I definitely want to taste the asteroid, but I don't want to get hurt.
Alice Carruth
Go on then. Tim, what do you think? Would you look an asteroid?
Elliot Peltzman
If there are other volunteers, I would not.
Alice Carruth
I like that. Ethan, what do you think? Would you look an asteroid?
Elliot Peltzman
Never in a million years am I looking an asteroid. I'll let you all take one for the team. Ain't happening.
Alice Carruth
Would I lick an asteroid? Yeah, probably. I mean, any excuse to get to space, but yeah, why not? I feel like the sugar gum stardust. Why not? So what is it that's actually been found? Japanese researchers found sugars essential for biology, which presents in a gum like substance not seen before in astromaterials. And an unexpectedly high abundance of dust produced by supernova explosions. The discovery of sugars, known as ribose, in asteroid samples is not a complete surprise. Ribose has previously been found in two meteorites recovered on Earth. What is important about Bennu samples is that researchers did not find deoxyribose now if you're like me and wondering what deoxyribose is, a quick Google search shared that Deoxyribose is a 5 carbon sugar that is a fundamental component of DNA forming part of its backbone along with phosphoric groups. If Bennu is any indication that this means that ribose may have been more common than deoxyribose in environments of the early solar system. The Bennu samples also contained one of the most common forms of food or energy used by life on Earth, the sugar glucose, which is the first evidence that an important energy source for life as we know it was also present in the early solar system. It doesn't answer if there's other life in the universe, but it certainly increases the CH chances of it. And that's it for T miners Brought to you by N2K CyberWire we'd love to know what you think of this podcast. Your feedback ensures that we deliver the insights that keep you a step ahead in the rapidly changing space industry. If you like the show, please share a rating and review in your podcast app. Please also fill out the survey in the show notes or send me an email to space2k.com we're proud that N2K CyberWire is part of the daily routine of the most influential leaders and operators in the public and private sector. From the Fortune 500 to many of the world's preeminent intelligence and law enforcement agencies, N2K helps space and cyber security professionals grow, learn and stay informed. As the nexus for disposition, discovery and connection, we bring you the people, technology and ideas shaping the future of secure innovation. Learn how@n2k.com N2K's producer is Liz Stokes. We're mixed by Elliot Peltzman and Trey Hester, with original music by Elliot Peltzman. Our executive producer is Jennifer Iban. Peter Kilpie is our publisher. Our host is Maria valmazes and I'm N2K senior producer Alice Carruth. Thanks for listening.
Date: December 2, 2025
Host: Alice Carruth (N2K Networks)
Featured Guest: Christina Omri, Director for Special Programs for Cybexa Technologies
This episode delivers the latest developments in the space industry—from major ESA investments and cyber-defense satellite launches to an engaging segment on the surprising discovery of sugar molecules in asteroid samples. The highlight is an in-depth conversation with Christina Omri from Cybexa Technologies, exploring cybersecurity challenges and training in the space sector. The team also lightens things up with a quirky debate: “Would you lick an asteroid?”
[02:39–08:45]
European Space Agency (ESA) Defense Investment:
ESA approves a €1.3 billion ($1.6B) spending plan for space defense across its 23 member states, signaling a historic shift to include space in European defense considerations.
Quote:
"Non dependence in technology is key to advancing Europe's ambitions in space alongside its guaranteed access to space." – Alice Carruth [04:28]
ESA Astronaut to the Moon:
The first European on a NASA-led Artemis moon mission will be a German astronaut, reflecting Germany’s leading role as ESA's top financial backer.
Deloitte and Spire Global Collaboration:
Eight satellites to be designed, built, and operated for on-orbit cyber payloads—advancing satellite vehicle defense and resilience.
Spire Global for Climate Research:
Providing soil moisture data for mapping climate-driven pastoralist movement in Ethiopia’s Somali region, aiding conflict mitigation and evidence-based policy.
Iridium’s US Space Force Contract:
$85.8 million deal to enhance ground infrastructure, technical support, and security for government satellite services.
[11:04–23:12]
Featuring: Christina Omri (Cybexa Technologies)
Originating from military needs for simulated “digital battlefield” environments, cyber ranges allow organizations to:
Quote:
"Cyber range technology comes historically from military—from the need to train and exercise also on the digital battlefield... but to do it in a simulated environment so that the real systems do not get harmed." – Christina Omri [12:00]
Increasing reliance on space systems for information and infrastructure makes cybersecurity vital.
Cybexa’s approach: Build simulated environments—including satellites and mission control stations—for realistic, scenario-based training.
Quote:
"The aim... is to improve the capabilities and skills in cybersecurity... there's a great lack of cybersecurity specialists around the world... and when we even look at closer to the space segment, the gap there is also quite big." – Christina Omri [13:36]
Space systems are long-lived and not easily replaceable; cyber protections must be embedded at the engineering stage.
Widespread use of legacy systems, limited public reporting of cyberattacks, and a skills gap in combining space engineering and cyber expertise.
Quote:
"There have not been that many attacks that have been spoken openly about... the understanding and the perception can change very easily when something big happens." – Christina Omri [15:05]
Space infrastructure underpins everyday life (GPS, weather, communications), not just the “space industry.”
Quote:
"We both rely every day in our work on space systems... It's part of the way we live nowadays." – Christina Omri [15:44]
Full virtual networks and systems are created, tailored to the client’s needs—ground stations, mission controls, etc.
Real participants log in to interactively detect, analyze, and mitigate vulnerabilities during hands-on exercises. Learning is continuous rather than pass/fail.
Quote:
"It's never about pass and fail, it's about improving and learning." – Christina Omri [17:24]
Tallinn's cyber expertise rooted in response to the landmark 2007 cyberattacks, fueling both public and private sector innovation (including the NATO CCDOE).
The city now serves as a unique hub for cyber range solutions and collaborative international training.
Quote:
"Tallinn has a bit of history with cyber—from the 2007 cyberattacks against Estonia... Out of this experience many good initiatives and things have grown out, like the NATO CCDOE in Tallinn." – Christina Omri [19:27]
[23:51–25:32]
Prompted by NASA’s OSIRIS-REx analysis of asteroid Bennu revealing sugars and “gum stardust,” the team debates whether they’d lick an asteroid for science.
Japanese researchers isolated sugars crucial for biology from Bennu samples—ribose, but not deoxyribose—in a gum-like substance, plus supernova-produced dust.
Significance: Ribose discovery hints it may have been more common than deoxyribose in the early solar system; glucose (key energy source for life) also found.
Quote:
"The Bennu samples also contained one of the most common forms of food or energy used by life on Earth, the sugar glucose, which is the first evidence that an important energy source for life as we know it was also present in the early solar system." – Alice Carruth [25:32]
On Training in Space Cybersecurity:
"So, and this is also where our company is a bit rooted in... this need after a collaborative training platform... not only about the real astronauts now to go up there, it's about our old lives here on the planet Earth."
— Christina Omri [21:46 & 22:51]
On the Asteroid-Licking Survey:
"Would I lick an asteroid? Yeah, probably."
— Alice Carruth [25:32]
The episode balances professional, technical insight (e.g., on cyber-defense in space) with an approachable, conversational style—especially evident in the asteroid-licking debate. Speaker attributions have been preserved.
"T-Minus Space Daily" on December 2, 2025, blends critical updates about space industry infrastructure, investment, and security with a thorough exploration of emerging cyber training for the sector. Christina Omri’s interview offers an illuminating view into the hands-on, simulation-based approach to hardening space infrastructure against cyber threats. Closing with a lighthearted (but illustrative) conversation about the taste of asteroids—and what their chemistry says about life beyond Earth—the show delivers a comprehensive, accessible snapshot of today’s space innovations and tomorrow’s challenges.