Classic Music Saved Me A Man on the Brink Saved by Music-Austin John Winkler

Summary

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Podcast Summary: takin' a walk

Episode: "Classic Music Saved Me – A Man on the Brink Saved by Music: Austin John Winkler"

Host: Buzz Knight (via companion podcast promotion), Interviewer: Lynn Hoffman
Guest: Austin John Winkler (former Hinder frontman, founder of "The Founder")
Date: November 1, 2025

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Overview

This episode features a raw, intimate conversation between Lynn Hoffman and Austin John Winkler, rock singer-songwriter best known as the former frontman of Hinder, now forging a new path with his solo project "The Founder." Winkler shares his story of losing and rediscovering his passion for music—against a backdrop of addiction, health crises, and personal transformation—and discusses how embracing vulnerability inspires his creative rebirth and helps others.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Creation of "The Founder" and Artistic Rebirth

• Austin’s new project, The Founder, was born out of a desire for complete creative control and authenticity.
  • Austin: “I didn't want to ever put out anything again that I wasn't going to be in full control of. And so that's kind of how The Founder was born...I was able to put my whole heart into something again, you know, for the first time in a while.” [04:12]
• The project’s EP "Walking Dead" showcases a more raw and personal approach, a departure from the polished sound of his earlier work.

2. Music as Salvation During Addiction and Illness

• Austin speaks openly about enduring a near-fatal period of addiction, resulting in liver and kidney failure, and spending nine months on dialysis at just 37.
• His lowest point led to an unexpected creative awakening while writing “Super Jaded”:
  • Austin: “I started writing a song called Super Jaded and I hit a C chord on a chorus and that was the moment...I cried in my hotel room at like 2am...I could feel myself just like my body rele from this music healing vibration...that's that, that just like started a complete new love for music.” [05:40]
• Music became therapy: Writing and performing new songs bridged his soul back to hope and meaning.

3. The Reality of Health Struggles in Recovery

• Austin gives a visceral account of being in a dialysis center, feeling like the youngest person surrounded by much older patients and resigning to the possibility this could be his life.
  • Austin: “To walk into dialysis like a dialysis center at 5am, four days a week, five hours at a time. And I'm 37 years old...everybody else is 70 and on the way. I'm the youngest guy in there.” [08:34]
• He recounts how a doctor’s brief approval to pause treatment was immediately seized for music-making:
  • “My brain didn't even think about it. I'm like, I gotta go record this song.” [07:58]

4. Vulnerability as an Artist and Songwriter

• Austin emphasizes the healing, connecting power of honesty in songwriting.
  • Austin: “If you're writing songs about your life even, you know, like, be honest. Be as honest as you can because deep down...somebody's gonna feel the exact same way if you're just honest with yourself.” [02:20; 14:17]
• He credits the deeply personal roots of hits like “Lips of an Angel,” which, though written quickly, came from a real vulnerable moment in his life.

5. Support Networks, Mental Health, and the Music Industry

• Organizations like MusiCares were critical to Austin’s recovery, granting him a 90-day rehab scholarship, highlighting the lack of accessible mental health help for entertainers.
  • Austin: “MusiCares has done so much for me...they took care of, like, my...gave me a scholarship for my rehab, 90 days.” [10:33]
• He celebrates the rise of therapy tents at festivals and the growing awareness among artists of industry pressures and isolation.
  • “The business is designed to isolate you. Like, the bigger you get, the smaller your world gets.” [11:44]

6. The Cycle of Fame, Burnout, and Recovery

• Having “learned how to be from MTV,” Austin describes living out every rock cliché—using drugs, marrying his music video co-star—and losing touch with his passion and purpose.
  • “I did everything you shouldn't do...that's kind of how I feel, like the MTV raised me kind of thing, you know?” [15:41]
• He reflects on the importance of boundaries and advises young artists that “it's ok to say no” amidst the industry’s relentless demands. [19:12]

7. Giving Back and Wanting His Experience to Help Others

• Austin finds deep meaning in messages from fans who connect to his songs, feeling a responsibility to use his music and platform for healing.
  • Austin: “To be able to write something that connects with somebody who is going through the same thing as you, and to be able to go on stage and sing that and them sing it back to you is an indescribable feeling.” [17:33]
• The concert experience, for him, becomes “a little church or whatever for people who go on through heavy shit.” [18:33]

8. Legacy and Personal Reflections

• On legacy, Austin hopes to be remembered as “somebody that, that fights for what he loves”—open about struggles, passionate about music, and committed to connecting with others on life's tough road. [22:18]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Music saved me...I think that being vulnerable is a very important part of an artist's job.” – Austin John Winkler [02:20]
• “I started writing a song called Super Jaded and...I cried in my hotel room at like 2am.” – Austin [05:40]
• “Music helps me all the time, daily. And to be able to write something that connects with somebody...is more rewarding than any amount of numbers in a bank account.” – Austin [17:33]
• “My advice to my younger self would be like, dude, it's okay to say no.” – Austin [19:12]
• “I just want to be known for maybe taking time, whatever. I come to the city and it just kind of pushes everything...and you can sit and scream your head off to rock and roll songs.” – Austin [22:18]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:20] Austin on music saving his life and the importance of vulnerability
• [04:12] Creation of The Founder and reclaiming creative control
• [05:40] Moment of rediscovering love for music during health crisis
• [08:34] Vivid description of time in dialysis and hitting bottom
• [10:33] MusiCares’ role in his recovery and the need for artist support
• [14:17] Vulnerability and authenticity in songwriting
• [15:41] “Learning” from MTV and confronting the downsides of fame
• [17:33] Connecting with fans, music as daily therapy
• [19:12] Advice to young artists: the power of “no” and self-care
• [22:18] On legacy, connection, and “fighting for what you love”

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Tone and Language

The conversation is authentic, heartfelt, and at times raw. Austin is candid about pain and redemption; Lynn is empathetic and supportive. Their dialogue is filled with mutual respect and a shared belief in music’s power to heal—offering encouragement and hope for those facing their own battles.

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Takeaways

• Honest storytelling and vulnerability can be the greatest sources of healing and artistic power.
• The music industry often isolates and pressures artists—finding help and setting boundaries is vital for survival and creativity.
• Music is a lifeline: for listeners and for creators, offering connection and a sense of shared struggle.
• Austin’s story is a powerful testament to the redemptive force of art and the importance of caring for both self and others.

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For fans of music, recovery, and human resilience, this episode offers insight, inspiration, and a reminder that, as Austin says, “everybody’s human...somebody’s gonna feel the exact same way if you’re just honest with yourself.” [14:17]

Transcript

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[Austin John Winkler]

Music saved me I think that being vulnerable is a very important part of an artist's job. If you're sending, if you're writing songs about your life even, you know, like, be honest. Be as honest as you can because deep down you know you're human. Everybody's human on this, on this earth. And somebody's gonna feel the exact same way if you're just honest with, with yourself.

[Lynn Hoffman]

I'm Lynn Hoffman, the host of the Music Saved Me podcast. The podcast that goes behind the scenes with musicians and entertainers and explores the healing power of music. Now if you like this podcast, thank you and please follow our companion podcast hosted by the incredible buzz knight called Taking a Walk which is available wherever you get your podcasts now. Like most celebrities from the days of mtv, my next guest is a multi platinum selling rock star and former frontman who is no stranger to the temptations of addiction. After a decade of fighting for his own survival, Austin John Winkler, formerly of the band Hinder, has done the hard work of finding his footing and rekind his lost love of music. Can you believe lost love? I can't even believe I'm saying that. With a brand new musical entity he created called the Founder, which symbolizes his artistic rebirth. He also has a brand new six track EP called Walking Dead which we'll talk about. An eagerness to use his newfound freedom to help others who are working through those same demons by letting them all know that they are not alone in their fight. Just the perfect guest for Music Saved Me, Austin John Winkler, welcome to the show. It is so good to see you and have you here.

[Austin John Winkler]

Thank you so much, Lynn. And it's good to be here.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Well, first, let's just talk a little bit about this new entity, the Founder. It's a sanctuary for where you're creating all of your new musical creations. Can you tell me a little bit about that?

[Austin John Winkler]

And when that started, Yeah, I wanted to just get in and, and I just had this one song is actually the title track, Walking Dead. And I was just like, all right, I'm just gonna do one song and just do a single. And it kind of, it really turned out like, I don't know, to me it's really raw, a lot more raw than, than kind of my polished stuff that I've done in the past. And, and the lyrics are a little more raw and I was like, okay, well I'm gonna do another one. I'm gonna, I'm gonna do another one. And so I just, I kept on recording and then it just, I, I, I saw this body of work and I saw this whole kind of new approach to, to recording and you know, I didn't want to ever put out anything again that I wasn't going to be in full control of. And so that's kind of how the founder was, was born, is that I, I, I, I was able to put my whole heart into something again, you know, for the first time in a while. And I told myself, if I ever do that again, I'm going to make sure that I'm only putting in all the creative into it.

[Lynn Hoffman]

So can you share that moment? Was there a moment like that epiphany that you realized that music was going to be this lifeline during your darkest times, considering your past with music?

[Austin John Winkler]

Absolutely, yeah. Well, to be honest, that means we have to go back even further to 2020. And I had just, I was, I was on dialysis because my liver and kidney had failed due to excessive years of partying. I was, I was what, what you'd call a disposal. I would, whatever I can get my hands on. I was going, I was going to do. And I was like nine months on dialysis and I was strumming the guitar and I was just, I hadn't, I hadn't been in love with music for a while just, just because I've been through so much in this industry. And I, I started writing a song called Super Jaded and I like hit a C chord on a chorus and that was the moment, at least for me, that I fell back in love with music. I, after I had written that song and heard it back, like, I, I cried in my hotel room at like 2am Just like. And I could feel myself just like my body rele from this music healing vibration. Like me hearing myself going, you know what? I think I still got this thing in me. And yeah, that's that, that, that just like started like a complete new love for music and for me going, you know what? I may give this thing another go.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Well, I mean, you have spoken very openly, as you are now, about your battle with the addiction. And the dialysis was, you know, so young. It just, it blew me away that you were able to, I mean, that truly is a low moment.

[Austin John Winkler]

Yeah.

[Lynn Hoffman]

For someone sitting there thinking about their life, I mean, it's right in the palm of your hands.

[Austin John Winkler]

Yeah.

[Lynn Hoffman]

To do with. It's pretty incredible. What.

[Austin John Winkler]

Thank you.

[Lynn Hoffman]

How did those experiences change your perspective on life and music?

[Austin John Winkler]

Man, I'll tell you, like, I'm still processing it. It's still something that was just so crazy. It's like somebody picked me up and shook me and then set me back down. And I, I still, I'm still processing it, like, even this is. This is me processing it. Because as soon as I found out that what happened is I was. I was allotted. The doctor said, okay, you know what? We're going to take you off dialysis for two weeks. And my brain didn't even think about it. I'm like, I gotta go record this song. So he took me off dialysis for two weeks. I flew to Nashville. We recorded super jaded in this, like, tiny shed of my guitar players. Now is crazy as that sounds. And then I go back, I fly back, is expecting to get back on dialysis. And he was like, you know what? We're good. We're going to keep you off of it for two months or three months or whatever it was. And I was like, okay. Crazy. So I haven't even still had time to process all of that crazy stuff. But, I mean, I will tell you what it's like to walk into dialysis like a dialysis center at 5am, four days a week, five hours at a time. And I'm 37 years old at the time, or 38 years old at the time. And everybody else is 70 and on the way. I'm the youngest guy in there. And everybody's just in there just kind of sitting like this, you know, And I was like, is this. I had accepted it. I had accepted this is my life now, I guess. But I was diligent in what the doctors told me to do. And whenever he said, two weeks off, I booked my flight the next day and I was out and hit the ground.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Yeah, that is just so powerful, what you just said. I mean, literally, you're cleaning your blood, which is what we need to live the rest of our lives. And. And you got that one moment of clarity where maybe you could turn this around. So do you think music had an impact as well in. In your healing when you got to performing that after you left for a couple of weeks?

[Austin John Winkler]

Oh, absolutely, Absolutely. I mean, it's. It's more therapy now than it's ever been. Even when I, you know, first started, I. I feel. Yeah. Much more connected to what I'm putting out now. And not that I wasn't connected to it. I was just. I was literally a different person than. I mean, coming out at 24 years old, I was that. That party guy. I was everything on those records. Like, that's who I was at the time. And I've always been attached.

[Lynn Hoffman]

It was like a machine.

[Austin John Winkler]

It was. Yeah, absolutely.

[Lynn Hoffman]

What I'm curious about, music cares and in other support systems that sort of Played a role in your recovery? How did they work and how important do you think it is for artists, especially artists, to have access to these types of resources?

[Austin John Winkler]

Man, Music Cares has done so much for me. Whenever I was really in need of a lot of help and they took me in. They took care of, like, my. My entire. Gave me a scholarship for my. For my rehab, 90 days. Like, I mean, they really take care of their own. And I'd love to do any. If they ever have anything to do, I'd love to volunteer my time to help them out. I mean, they truly help. Really help people out.

[Lynn Hoffman]

How did you find out about them?

[Austin John Winkler]

My therapist at the time was connected to them in Malibu, and she hooked me up with them.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Wow. There has to be. I mean, being in this industry as long as you have and I have on. On my role, it's amazing how little there is put out for artists. You know, when they're the ones entertaining the masses who need it so badly, they're providing this therapy, but they don't have any access to it or understanding that it's even out there for them.

[Austin John Winkler]

You know, I'll tell you this. Like, my therapist now, who. Who does amazing work, she's. She's started to have to go to, like, Coachella and these big festivals, and she'll have a tent, and she's like, well, these artists. These artists are too big. They're not going to have any time. And she is booked solid. Like, she'll go in and she'll be booked from the time she gets there. Because these. Because people nowadays, I mean, they're actually. They are starting to wake up and realize that, hey, this business is designed to isolate you. Like, no matter the bigger you get, the smaller your world gets. And she's providing safe space for big artists to go in and be like, you know what? This is what I'm dealing with on the road. This is what I can't deal with, and stuff like that. And it's. It's really quite remarkable to see that. And I love seeing that.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Yeah, me too. Was there a specific song or, like, a moment that you felt that music truly saved you?

[Austin John Winkler]

You know, like I said, I think it was that. That super jaded song. I mean, when I say save, I'm. I mean, like, music saves me in general. Right, right. When I say save, I mean, that made me fall in love with music again. Meaning that I needed that to fall back in line with something that saved my whole life. Like, I mean, before I even started. Hinder At 19, I was getting arrested and I was like, I was. I was a train wreck of a 19 year old kid. And a couple weeks later I started hindering. I got online. You know, I felt like I found my calling of stick to. In music. Yeah, yeah.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Or you're.

[Austin John Winkler]

Or you're gonna get off track. And that's what happened, you know, whenever I left, whenever I ended up leaving the band in 2013, is that I didn't have that. Main thing is my support anymore. I felt. And I. I got off the rails, man. Like seven years of. Of some pretty dark stuff that I ended up getting into. So.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and it's true. You don't even realize, you know, how vulnerable you are and how much you give that. You don't check yourself. Like it. It brings meaning to the word. You know, oxygen mask on you first and then you can help others. But.

[Austin John Winkler]

Right.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Sometimes you see that.

[Austin John Winkler]

So much truth in it. Yeah, right.

[Lynn Hoffman]

How does vulnerability play into your songwriting and help you with your process, with healing or with pain?

[Austin John Winkler]

Man, it's. It's something that. That I feel like I'm getting. I mean, even more. I'm getting even more personal. I feel like with. Especially with this founder stuff because I think that being vulnerable is a very important part of an artist's job. If you're sending. If you're writing songs about your life even, you know, like, be honest. Be as honest as you can because deep down, you know, you're human. Everybody's human on this earth. And somebody's gonna feel the exact same way if you're just honest with yourself. I mean, look at Lips of an Angel. To be honest, like that. That happened to me and I wrote it the next day, like, and it was just. It was 15, 20 minutes. But it was something so true and very vulnerable. I mean, it ended up actually causing me a lot of problems in my personal life.

[Lynn Hoffman]

But how crazy is that? You know something.

[Austin John Winkler]

So I've been vulnerable since day one.

[Lynn Hoffman]

You know, just trying to figure out how to work it so that you're protected. You know, it's funny, I was reading after stepping away from Hinder that you had mentioned this. I couldn't believe this. I said it in the open that you. You sort of fell out of love with music, which is incredible. So you must have really been really in a tough spot. What helped you rekindle that passion? I think the quote was something like, I learned how to be from mtv. But then it almost. That almost ruined you. Really?

[Austin John Winkler]

Yeah, no, that was. That was something that I Mean, it's, I'm kind of half kidding, but kind of not. Like, I, I, I loved watching MTV as a kid and I, and I wanted to be a part of that world. And, you know, I read the dirt right before I went out on tour. Like, it was, it was all kind of playing out exactly what I think, you know what I mean? And I went down all the steps, you know, I, I married the girl in the music video. Like I did everything you shouldn't do. I mean, as long as that, as crazy as that sounds like, that's kind of how I feel, like the MTV raised me kind of thing, you know?

[Lynn Hoffman]

Yeah, but, but how, like, it's amazing to me that you even went back. Well, to begin with, but, but in 23, though, you released Lips of an angel again as a duet, and There was like 3 million downloads and you had been off the scene for quite a while. That must have been an incredible feeling to know that your fans are still out there craving for more.

[Austin John Winkler]

No, that was a surreal experience. I mean, I couldn't believe it. I was back in the booth with the producer Brian House, who did the first one, and it was, you know, Shaelyn was, did an amazing job and it was surreal. It's amazing to know that there's still people out there that are digging the music.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Has your approach changed at all in terms of how you write songs since you entered recovery?

[Austin John Winkler]

No, like I said, with this founder stuff, it's just a little more raw and it's very personal. It hasn't changed. Like I said, I mean, I've been vulnerable since day one. I've laid it out there as clear as day as long as I've been writing songs.

[Lynn Hoffman]

How important is it for you to help others who are challenged?

[Austin John Winkler]

Man, I, I read every single comment that, that, that people write on, on songs that I'm a part of, and it's very important to me because I know I've been on the other side of that, and I still, I'm always on the other side of that. Like music, Music helps me all the time, daily. And to be able to write something that connects with somebody who is going through the same thing as you, and to be able to go on stage and sing that and them sing it back to you is an indescribable feeling. Like, that is more rewarding than any amount of numbers in a bank account or anything I can own. That is something I share with the fans, and that is something that is sacred to me.

[Lynn Hoffman]

That's so special that you do that. And also that you care enough that. That you want to do that through your music to help others. And. And is it. Is. It's a therapy for. For everyone involved, really? It lifts everybody up.

[Austin John Winkler]

Yeah, absolutely. Like, you go to the show and it's like, okay, it's like a little church or whatever for people who go on through heavy shit. Like, that's what. That's what it is.

[Lynn Hoffman]

It's pretty amazing. How do you think that the music industry. I know we talked about this earlier in terms of charitable organizations that are out there, but what do you think that the music industry as a whole could do to better support its artists? I mean, we're in a whole new world. It's a lot different than before, where we were just apples and oranges represented by agencies. And now it's really, you know, you can pick and choose who you want to represent you, what message you want to put out there.

[Austin John Winkler]

That's it for sure. I mean, my advice that I would even tell my younger self would be like, dude, it's okay to say no. You know what I mean? Like, you don't have to do every single thing that gets thrown into your lap. I mean, that. That drains you. It doesn't matter what kind of line of work you're in if you're just saying yes to everything, Especially if you're doing something you love and it starts to get tarnished with. With so much that they pile on your plate. I mean, the bigger you get, the busier you get. And, I mean, I would. I would tell my younger. I tell my younger self to be like, dude, say no to once in a while. Like, get some rest. Like, it's important for you to take care of you before you can take care of the person on stage. So, I mean, I think, like I said, them having therapy tents instead of swag tents, I think will go a long way and keep big artists or smartwaters, it doesn't matter who it is. Keep them in line and keep them grounded from the small success, you know, that we have had. It was crazy out there. It was crazy.

[Lynn Hoffman]

I remember. I mean, I was working actually at a radio station not long before your first real big hit song came on, about 20 years ago up in Boston. And I just remember you were on heavy rotation. Lips of an angel was just a smash, but you had a lot of other songs as well. You were, you know, rising up. And just as I was leaving town, heading to New York, and. And it was. It's exciting to see that you've been able to really turn this whole thing around because it really is inspiring and that you're willing to put yourself out there for your fans as vulnerable as you are, to show them that even people like yourself has issues that you have to work through. And, and it, it's, you know, the biggest thing for me is when people who rise to the, the big levels have such a responsibility. And I always felt like you should never squander that responsibility to help others when you have forged your own path like that. Because there's so many who don't know how.

[Austin John Winkler]

Right, right. No, it's, it's definitely, you know, and you don't, I mean, you don't realize the responsibility you have. Obviously. I, I, I, you know, it was hard for me to see that until I was out of, of.

[Lynn Hoffman]

How can you.

[Austin John Winkler]

Yeah.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Honestly, when you've got the machine behind you like that, you're like, what stage am I? What town am I at? Where's my clothes?

[Austin John Winkler]

You're definitely somewhat of a, of a robot in the arrows pointing. You, you just, you're following a path and you don't even know. You're just following the person to the stage or you're following the person to the radio station or the hotel or whatever. Like, you're just, you're on autopilot sometimes, and it, it's really, really good to not do that. And if you can do some things to break that up, that would be great.

[Lynn Hoffman]

What would you like your legacy to be? Not, not just as a musician, but as someone who's overcome significant personal challenges.

[Austin John Winkler]

Just to be honest, it would be just somebody that, that fights for what he loves. Like, I love music again. And, you know, I have days where I'm like, am I still, am I still good? Or is this, is this worthy of, of going out and touring and stuff like that? And it's, you know, I think it's just, it's going to be legacy or whatever. Just somebody that obviously loved music and wanted to share his music with the world and wanted to connect with people. Because this, this, this rock or whatever that we're spinning on there is insanely malicious. I mean, it can, it can be a beautiful, beautiful place, and it can be so malicious. And I just want to be known for maybe taking time, whatever. I come to the city and it just kind of pushes everything, Everything's on pause for a minute and you can sit and scream your head off to rock and roll songs.

[Lynn Hoffman]

I love it. And I love your videos especially. They're really great. Austin John Winkler Congratulations on getting to where you are in life and your successes. Thank you for sharing them with us on music Saved me and good luck in everything that you do in the future. And please come back and see us again when you have your next EP or I dare I say album. But everything's coming back so you never know.

[Austin John Winkler]

Absolutely. Thank you so much.

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