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Lynne Hoffman
Music Saved Me.
Black Bach
One of the things that I can say about the Detroit music scene is that if you enter it, it's like a family. And that family perspective is part of the thing that helped me develop not only as a musician, but as a person, and also helped prevent me from getting into some of the pitfalls that exist in being from an urban environment. I can remember in the day. A lot of my teachers would call me and say, hey, are you coming down to sit in with us tonight? And at the same time, I would get the same call from, and they would say, yo, let's go do something stupid. You know, the good thing is that I chose music.
Lynne Hoffman
I'm Lynne Hoffman, and welcome to another episode of the Music Saved Me podcast, where we showcase the force of nature that we know in our lives called music. Our guest is a neoclassical pianist who's performed with the likes of Rihanna and Justin Timberlake. Black Bach knows the power of music firsthand, growing up as a child prodigy in the inner city of Detroit. So, first, welcome to the show. Tell everyone who you are, are, and how has music saved you?
Black Bach
Oh, wow. Well, yes, music has saved me so many times. My name is Black Bach. I'm a neoclassical composer and pianist from Detroit, Michigan. And that being said, alone being from Detroit, Michigan, music was something that saved me a bit from the environment that I was born and raised in. One of the things that I can say about the Detroit music scene is that if you're. If you enter it, it's like a family. And that family perspective is part of the thing that helped me develop not only as a musician, but as a person, and also helped prevented me from getting into some of the pitfalls that exist in being from an urban environment. I can remember in the day, a lot of my teachers would call me and say, hey, are you coming down to sit in with us tonight? And at the same time, I would get the same call from my homies, and they would say, yo, let's go do something stupid. And, you know, it was like this sort of choice of which one would I choose. And, you know, the good thing is that I chose music. I felt that music was the thing that the vehicle that could get me from one environment and could allow me to see the world, which it did. And then when we speak about mental health, and that has always been something that has been a challenge for, I think, everyone. I always have this quote that I say, which is, this world is so complex that you need therapy. The reason why we need therapy is that you need someone else to help you kind of navigate the pitfalls of life. This life has become very complex for me. Therapy and music have been kind of one and the same. Yes, I have had external therapy, but the way that I am able to express myself and have an outlet is through music, my writing. I think that music has saved me time and time again, and not only just in a physical way, but, like I said, a mental and spiritual way because of that strong connection to being a creative and dodging some of the things that could potentially be detrimental to my life.
Lynne Hoffman
So you feel music has therapeutic and healing forces?
Black Bach
Absolutely. Absolutely.
Lynne Hoffman
How has music impacted you, you know, at a particularly challenging time in your life?
Black Bach
Well, I can talk about 2020, which was a challenging time for all of us, being that, you know, it was the beginning of COVID and the lockdown. And one of the things that kept me, sort of kept the balance in my life during that crazy time was music. I wrote my first album, Black Book, during that period. And the thing that was very cool was that I was able to do it in 121 consecutive days. So music was the thing that kind of every day, you know, while so many people were kind of going crazy, going, what do I do? I went, let me focus on music. Music is gonna be the thing that's gonna keep me very much balanced throughout this crazy process. And it kind of worked 121 consecutive days. A couple months later, I signed a record deal, and the rest is ancient history.
Lynne Hoffman
Wow. Congratulations on all that. Good focus. That's pretty incredible. So what does it mean to have your music profoundly impact others?
Black Bach
Oh, that's the reason that I do it. You know, the reason that I do music is as an act of service. It's important to me that. That I'm putting something into the world that represents love, that represents kindness, that represents healing, that represents being emotionally just level. For me, that's the goal, you know, that's like, the number one goal. I believe that musicians have a great power, and to use that power in a way that is of service to others is exactly why we were given the power in the first place. So my music is all about that. I always say that I want to be a walking embodiment of what love is, and I want my music to be a reflection of that walking embodiment of love.
Lynne Hoffman
I love that embodiment of love. And great power, indeed. Is there a particular musical genre or artists or bands that have impacted you in certain situations that you found yourself in?
Black Bach
I don't know. I think all of Them have impacted me. Each genre has impacted me in a different way. I'm initially a hip hop kid from the west side of Detroit. I grew up listening to R and B and Motown. Of course, jazz was very influential in my life, but I started playing classical at the age of four. So it's just been this whole mix up of everything. I think that if more people listen to more, the more you expand your listening, the more you're able to tap into different emotions that come from different pieces of music. Sometimes people, I have friends that have, you know, been in the same room with me listening to something like, you know, like Celtic music. And they're like, what are you listening to? Saying you don't understand, you don't feel. You have to just take a moment to feel what the story is behind it. And each genre gives you a different piece of information. And that information can be used to be healing or to be uplifting or to tell a story. And that's what music is for, is to bring us out of our element and into someone else's world and to allow us to see and view and witness a different world.
Lynne Hoffman
I love it. How does expression on social issues impact your view of music?
Black Bach
Oh, my music is very much based around social issues and the impact that they have. I believe that many composers from, you know, very long ago did the same thing. They wrote about the things that were affecting them in their daily lives and affecting the people around them. I think that as a composer, it is important that we begin to see and address the things that matter, the social issues. You know, right now I'm very much affected by this mass shooting community. I don't even know what it is that we have going on in America right now. I think, you know, something needs to be said about it. And who better than someone who's tapped into this source of energy, like music to speak about it? So, you know, I consider that my job and my duty.
Lynne Hoffman
How important is a sense of humor that you convey in your music and storytelling?
Black Bach
I'm just a funny guy. I just like to laugh a lot, so.
Lynne Hoffman
Me too.
Black Bach
I'm one of those people, you know, I think it was Charlie Chaplin said, if you don't, a day without laughter is a wasted day. Or I'm just that same way. Like, if I'm not laughing, this is a waste. You know, Like, I think that that's very important in storytelling. I think humor plays a very big part of. Of telling any story, is a way to kind of break up the story if it's. It's a very serious story. That's definitely a kind of break up the action and have a little fun.
Lynne Hoffman
You gotta laugh. I love it. All right, here's a crazy one. What do you think the world would be like without music?
Black Bach
Oh, the world wouldn't exist without music. I mean, everything is vibration. What we see around us are reflections of vibrations. So I think that the world is built upon music. Everything is music. There's. There's no substance that exists without vibration. I think that the organization of vibration and air is what we call music. And it's sort of the substance that allows humans to be human. I don't think there's anyone that you'll ever meet that says, I don't like music. I think people will say they don't like a certain genre. Maybe I don't like country, Maybe I don't like classical, Maybe I don't like rap. But you never hear anyone say, I don't like music. So I think it's an essential part of our human experience.
Unnamed Speaker
Must have been a few years ago that I heard of Blackrock and started to get a little familiar with his music. But it wasn't until I joined the Pistons six months ago in terms of a career change for me, and, you know, our paths crossed professionally and I was familiar with his work. Just kind of got reacquainted and reintroduced to his music in a much more personal way. Ever since I discovered his work, I've just kind of been taken back by it. It is powerful. You know, his music in general is just. It's brilliant in so many different ways. It's hard to just sum up so quickly. Every time he gets behind the piano, it's. You're going to feel something. You're probably going to feel multiple things. And when it's done, when he finishes, it's just. It's very powerful. You feel like you just heard a story or experienced a story and one word hasn't been spoken, you know, And I just think it's really powerful, his music, how it acts as a storyteller without using words.
Lynne Hoffman
How does it feel when one of your fans connects with you regarding your music?
Black Bach
Those moments are so very special. And the thing that I find is that they're so individualized. You know, I know that there may be other artists that, you know, someone says the same thing as another person, as another person, other person. I think that I've never heard the same thing twice. It's amazing that music with no words can convey such a message and can allow the mind to travel in a way that creates an environment where someone's able to feel something or express something or experience something, that the person sitting next to them is having a totally different experience. For me, that feedback from fans makes my day. It makes me understand that what I'm doing means something and that I'm on the right path and I need to continue. I think that, like I said, it's service.
Lynne Hoffman
Okay. And one more question. Describe the spiritual component of music.
Black Bach
Oh, wow. The spiritual component. This is probably a very complex question to answer because the spiritual component changes and shifts so rapidly between, you know, one composition or one piece of music and the next. The thing that I can say that they do have in common is that I'm able to feel music in a way that is beyond just my ears. It's beyond just what I can see or what I can hear. It's something that. That hits my soul in a way. And. And there's. There's information that's being transferred. Very much the spiritual component for me is that, you know, that music is the universal language. And I hear that, and I feel that. And its abilities, my ability to speak that language also allows me to hear that language in a different way. I think that every time I listen to music, I don't just hear it with my ears. I hear it with my soul. And that allows me, again, to be able to express that myself or tell that story. I always say I love that I've had the highest highs and the lowest lows. Why? Because now I can tell a story of the highest highs and the lowest lows. So that in itself is an expression of how the spiritual component of music affects me. I feel it from the very top to the very bottom.
Lynne Hoffman
Black Bach. Thank you so much for joining us today on the Music Saved Me podcast. Congratulations on all your successes in life and in music.
Podcast Summary: "Classic Music Saved Me Replay with BLKBOK"
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In the enlightening episode titled "Classic Music Saved Me Replay with BLKBOK" of the takin' a walk podcast, host Lynne Hoffman engages in a profound conversation with Black Bach, a neoclassical pianist and composer from Detroit, Michigan. This episode delves deep into Black Bach’s journey, exploring how music served as his sanctuary and lifeline amidst the challenges of his environment and personal struggles.
The episode opens with Black Bach’s poignant statement, "Music Saved Me" (00:00), setting the tone for a heartfelt discussion. Lynne Hoffman introduces Black Bach as a neoclassical pianist who has collaborated with prominent artists like Rihanna and Justin Timberlake. Black Bach shares his background as a child prodigy from Detroit, emphasizing how the city's vibrant music scene became a familial support system that steered him away from potential urban pitfalls.
Black Bach (00:02): "One of the things that I can say about the Detroit music scene is that if you enter it, it's like a family...music was the vehicle that could get me from one environment and could allow me to see the world."
Black Bach elaborates on how music was instrumental in his development both as a musician and as an individual. He recounts the daily dilemmas he faced between engaging in musical pursuits or succumbing to negative influences, ultimately choosing music as his escape and growth path.
Black Bach (00:36): "This world is so complex that you need therapy... therapy and music have been kind of one and the same."
He underscores the therapeutic and healing power of music, equating it to a form of self-expression and mental health support. Through composing and performing, Black Bach found solace and balance, especially during tumultuous times.
When asked about a particularly challenging period, Black Bach reflects on the year 2020—the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic. He credits music with maintaining his equilibrium during lockdowns, highlighting the creation of his first album, "Black Book," over 121 consecutive days.
Black Bach (03:38): "One of the things that kept me balanced during that crazy time was music... I focused on music, and it kept me balanced."
This intense focus not only provided personal stability but also led to a significant career milestone—a record deal a few months later, marking a turning point in his professional journey.
Black Bach speaks passionately about his music as an act of service aimed at spreading love, kindness, and healing. He believes that musicians hold a powerful platform to influence and support others, and he strives to embody this responsibility through his compositions.
Black Bach (04:44): "The reason that I do music is as an act of service... a reflection of that walking embodiment of love."
He emphasizes the importance of diverse musical influences, blending genres like hip hop, R&B, Motown, jazz, and classical to evoke a wide range of emotions and stories. This eclectic mix allows listeners to connect deeply with different facets of human experience.
Black Bach (06:00): "Each genre gives you a different piece of information... to bring us out of our element and into someone else's world."
The conversation shifts to the role of music in addressing social issues. Black Bach asserts that his compositions are often inspired by current societal challenges, such as mass shootings in America. He views his music as a medium to voice concerns and foster dialogue around these pressing matters.
Black Bach (07:19): "My music is very much based around social issues and the impact that they have... I consider that my job and my duty."
He draws parallels with historical composers who used their art to reflect and influence societal changes, reinforcing his commitment to using music as a tool for advocacy and change.
Humor plays a significant role in Black Bach's approach to storytelling through music. He believes that laughter is essential, not just for personal well-being but also as a narrative device to balance serious themes.
Black Bach (08:27): "If you're not laughing, this is a waste."
He cites Charlie Chaplin's philosophy, "a day without laughter is a wasted day," illustrating his belief that humor can effectively break the tension in serious stories, making them more relatable and engaging for audiences.
Exploring a hypothetical scenario, Black Bach discusses the indispensable role of music in existence. He philosophizes that everything in the world is grounded in vibration, which is fundamentally musical. To him, music is not just an art form but the very fabric of reality.
Black Bach (09:05): "Everything is vibration... the organization of vibration and air is what we call music."
He posits that music is an inherent part of the human experience, capable of transcending genres to resonate universally with people across different backgrounds.
An unnamed speaker shares a personal testament to Black Bach’s impact, highlighting how his music serves as a powerful, wordless storyteller that evokes deep emotional responses.
Black Bach reflects on the unique and individualized nature of fan connections. He values personal feedback as it validates his work and motivates him to continue his artistic endeavors.
Black Bach (11:12): "Those moments are so very special... it makes me understand that what I'm doing means something."
His appreciation for audience engagement underscores his dedication to creating meaningful and impactful music that resonates on a personal level with each listener.
In discussing the spiritual component of music, Black Bach describes it as a transcendent experience that goes beyond mere auditory perception. He conveys that music communicates directly with the soul, conveying emotions and stories without words.
Black Bach (12:15): "I hear it with my soul... I hear it with my soul, and that allows me... to tell that story."
He articulates that music functions as a universal language, enabling him to express and share the highest highs and the lowest lows of human emotion, thus fulfilling a profound spiritual need.
Lynne Hoffman wraps up the episode by congratulating Black Bach on his successes in both life and music, acknowledging the depth and impact of his contributions.
Key Takeaways:
Music as Salvation: Black Bach attributes his personal and professional survival to music, highlighting its role as a protective and nurturing force in his life.
Therapeutic Power: Music serves as a therapeutic outlet for Black Bach, aiding in mental health and emotional stability, especially during crises like the COVID-19 pandemic.
Artistic Purpose: He views his music as an act of service aimed at spreading positive values and addressing social issues, emphasizing the responsibility of musicians to influence society positively.
Diverse Influences: Black Bach’s eclectic musical background enables him to create rich, emotionally resonant compositions that cater to a wide audience.
Humor and Storytelling: Incorporating humor into serious narratives makes his music more relatable and engaging, enhancing the storytelling aspect.
Spiritual Connection: Music transcends physical boundaries, acting as a universal language that connects with the soul and facilitates profound spiritual experiences.
Deep Audience Connections: Personalized fan interactions validate his efforts and inspire him to continue creating meaningful music.
Notable Quotes:
Black Bach (00:36): "This world is so complex that you need therapy... therapy and music have been kind of one and the same."
Black Bach (04:44): "The reason that I do music is as an act of service... a reflection of that walking embodiment of love."
Black Bach (07:19): "My music is very much based around social issues and the impact that they have... I consider that my job and my duty."
Black Bach (09:05): "Everything is vibration... the organization of vibration and air is what we call music."
Black Bach (12:15): "I hear it with my soul... I hear it with my soul, and that allows me... to tell that story."
This episode of takin' a walk offers a profound exploration of how music intertwines with personal growth, mental health, social responsibility, and spiritual fulfillment. Black Bach's insights provide listeners with a deeper understanding of music's transformative power and its essential role in the human experience.