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I'm Lynn Hoffman and welcome to another episode of the Music Saved Me podcast where we dig deep into the healing for of music today. We are so excited to be joined by a producer and an incredible instrumentalist, Riley Smithson, also known as AKA Shrimp Nose. Now, Shrimp Nose knows the healing power of music up close and personal from a very young age, and we are so grateful that he's here to share his story with us on Music Save Me. Shrimp Nose, welcome to the show. It's great to have you here.
Riley Smithson
Thank you so much. I'm excited to be here.
Unknown
Now, first, I want to offer some congratulations because you just performed at one of Canada's biggest, biggest electronic music festivals. I believe it's called Shambhala.
Riley Smithson
Yep, that's the one.
Unknown
And also I think a little magazine called DJ Magazine just named you the up and coming emerging artist to watch for. So thank you for being here at the cusp.
Riley Smithson
Thank you so much.
Unknown
Just blowing up.
Riley Smithson
Yeah, I mean, it's all this stuff I take in stride. I'm. I'm thankful for it, but try not to get too hyped up for myself about things.
Unknown
You need to fit through the doorway.
Riley Smithson
Yeah, exactly.
Unknown
Well, I read that you started playing the drums at the age of five and it was more so a means for you to be able to communicate, which I think is really interesting. It wasn't necessarily just because you loved to play the drums. Can you sort of connect us with a little bit about that time and what brought you to connecting with music?
Riley Smithson
Sure, of course. So my dad got me a drum kit when I was about. Yeah, about four or five. And at the same time I developed this speech impediment that I still have. It's improved quite a bit the last few years, but growing up it was pretty hard in school and making friends and Stuff like that. And my mom and dad are both in a band together and have. Have been my, my whole life and they play with the band on the weekends. So growing up I would often be at home alone without much to do other than play instruments and kind of teach myself how to play instruments. And yeah, that was. Always felt like a language I could be fluent in a lot more easily. You know, it. There were. How do I put this? I didn't have blocks or obstacles in my way when I was playing drums or playing guitar or whatever it was, which kind of made me fall in love with that, so to speak.
Unknown
Do you think that basically when you look back at that time in your life that that was the moment that you realized how powerful it was? I mean were you even. Did you comprehend that even at that early age?
Riley Smithson
It, since I was a little kid, it's always been what I've wanted to do. To be honest, I had other interests also. I wanted to. You know, I liked paleontology when I was a little kid. Yeah, complete opposite. But yeah, it was always the thing that made me feel good and felt natural and was something I felt good at without having to try too hard. And it's. Having something that made me feel expressed was important growing up when I couldn't verbally express myself all the time the way that I wanted to.
Unknown
That's right. I read that you. There were times that you couldn't talk at all that you just couldn't express anything. That must have been extremely frustrating, especially as a kid growing up. And.
Riley Smithson
Yeah, yeah. And the hard thing too was in school a lot of teachers even didn't understand what I was going through in the speech Pathologists at the school I went to weren't good people, frankly. You know, they, the methods that they were teaching me didn't, they weren't for me, didn't make me feel good and yeah, it was just incredibly frustrating not being able to say how I was feeling. And it really led to me struggling a lot with my self esteem and anxiety. You know, a lot of people think that having a stutter stems from anxiety, but really it's the other way around. Like all I'll get caught up on a word and that's why I'm anxious. I'm not, it's not like I feel anxious first and then I get stuck on a word. You know, it's, it's kind of interesting.
Unknown
Yeah, you would definitely not think that it would be the backwards. That's incredible.
Riley Smithson
Yeah, it's, it's, it's Very much so. Like a neurological thing. It shares a lot of the same neurological pathways. Her rights.
Unknown
Interesting. Is there any connection with that and maybe dyslexia as well?
Riley Smithson
I don't know. I actually don't know. That's. That's a good question to ask because.
Unknown
That'S, that's what I have continuously fought with my whole life. And I, I wonder if that's. That's connected. That's. I'm gonna look into that. I'll let you know what I find out.
Riley Smithson
Yeah. So somebody smarter than I might, might have an answer. You.
Unknown
Have you talked about being at home and learning about how to play instruments or rather learning how to play instruments on your own. And that's, that's in and of itself something very special. What was, what was the thing that drove you to want to play so many instruments? I mean you play a lot of instruments.
Riley Smithson
That one just of availability. They were. I had drums and guitars and a bass guitar and all that at home. So it was around and wanting to have a fuller spectrum of expression, I suppose. One thing that's kind of interesting, I'm left handed and I, I play all my instruments backwards. Like, like a lot of people, if they're left handed, they'll buy a left handed guitar or little string a guitar backwards so they can play it that way, but I just flip it upside down and play it upside down. It's kind of not super common. Basically. Any guitar teacher would tell you not to do that.
Unknown
Yeah, that's for sure. But then again they would tell you that you have to read music.
Riley Smithson
Yeah. Which I also don't know how to do.
Unknown
Right. Yeah. And. And it's not necessary to make music.
Riley Smithson
Yeah.
Unknown
Although we're probably making people cringe right now.
Riley Smithson
Well, I mean, I don't know. There's a lot of professionally trained musicians and instrumentalists that can write music and play music really perfectly, but can't write music or. You know what I mean, they have a hard time improvising or. I don't know. I, I would much prefer being able to improvise to be, to be being able to read charts.
Unknown
I agree. I agree. It's like being a good chef. You just take, you experiment.
Riley Smithson
Yeah.
Unknown
And it's more fun that way. What significance did GarageBand, one of my favorite all time games of all time, have in. In or play a role in your journey in?
Riley Smithson
Gosh, in probably seventh or eighth grade, I was pretty young. I used it to make like a class project I made. Yeah. I, I had never like recorded or Produced anything before, but I made like a song for a video for a class project. And I realized how I could make music on a computer and how cool that could be. I didn't really get into production production until a couple years later in my senior year. Um, I got my first computer and took it a little more seriously. But yeah, I guess a class project was what made me start to experiment in that realm.
Unknown
That's really cool. On a side note, I have to tell you, I had a class project when I was young as well and I brought in music as an example. But this is going way back because I'm old. And I brought in a copy of the song Frankenstein, the rock song. I'm not even going to tell you because it's so old. And I played the whole thing just because it had the very first time they used synthesizers in music. That's how far. And I had to make the whole class wait for the synthesizers to play, which didn't happen to the end of the song. The teacher, I remember she just looked baffled, like. That was very interesting. Thanks for show and tell today. I've never told that story. I just had to tell you because it was so similar. But back to you. Do you. Do you recall what exactly or when you found this incredible strength within yourself to be secure in embracing your imperfections?
Riley Smithson
Great question. I don't know. I think just going through the tumults of being an adult, a young adult, a 20, you know, 18 to 25 year old, there's a lot of personal stuff that people go through that I'm sure a lot of people can relate to. Relationships and friends passing and, you know, things like that. And I don't know, I think I'm. I won't say I'm the most confident person in the world, but when it comes to music, I try to not get in my own way too much. I kind of. I think it's important to let. If I write a song, I try to let it be what it wants to be. And I try not to over contextualize it too much or think about how it could be better. You know, I try more so to feel how it could be better than think how it could be better. Because I can get in my own way if I think about it too much.
Unknown
Yes, because being a good producer is really cut into the meat of it. As opposed. Because you could linger for. You're birthing a child, basically. You're letting your inner thoughts and personal feelings out through music.
Riley Smithson
Exactly.
Unknown
It's not an easy thing.
Riley Smithson
Not at all. Yeah, I think, yeah, we have to be a vessel for the music more than. More than anything because it's really easy to get stuck and kind of hate what you're doing if it becomes more of an intellectual thing than a feeling thing.
Unknown
That's for sure. Tell us about some of the artists who to this day have made a connection to you and who have helped you through some of the tough times.
Riley Smithson
Absolutely. Gosh, I could go on and on about this. I would say. I would say the producer Shlomo was the first. First one I got really, really obsessed with. And in that vein also Gold Panda, Flying Lotus. But in the last couple years I've gone down more of a folk route. I got pretty big into Bony Ver and Elliot Smith and Alex G. And just kind of like the indie, semi electronic folk route has kind of hit the spot for me a lot more the last couple years.
Unknown
I've been hearing a lot of it lately too. And there's a lot of great stations now that are. Are playing. It's. It's really my go to music now is electronic. Do you find that happening a lot with people that you talk to of all ages?
Riley Smithson
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think the cool thing now is that there used to be like a kind of a connotation with electronic stuff that it was maybe just dubstep or just house music or it was very like genre focused. But I think we're at a point now where it's like listening music. It's. It's less. Less genre and more feeling, which I am excited about.
Unknown
Yeah, I want to ask you about that. I talk to a lot of artists, musicians, writers, but this new form, and I say new because it's not so new, but. But it really is new for mainstream. Would you agree?
Riley Smithson
Yeah.
Unknown
What is. What is the quality of electronic music in terms of how it strikes emotion even without like a word sung or spoken?
Riley Smithson
Yeah.
Unknown
What do you think it is?
Riley Smithson
Well, I think part of it now is that we're at the point where we are trying to blend influences. And just me specifically, I. In my music, I tend to incorporate a lot of acoustic guitar, which is maybe a little untraditional for most electronic artists, but it is a. It's a very emotive instrument. You know, you can. You can really get a lot out of it and kind of tell the listener what to feel, so to say. I think that makes for an interesting route now that we're trying to blend influences and take it in a direction things haven't gone before.
Unknown
Yeah, you can't always put your finger on it, but there's. There's just something special about it. And I mostly do find myself listening to that, especially in the car. Yeah, it's really cool. Can you describe how it feels when a fan shares with you the positive impact that your music has had on them and. And what it means to them?
Riley Smithson
Of course, yeah. At first it was a little overwhelming. Honestly. I didn't quite know how to receive it at first, but now I definitely am very flattered. Anytime somebody has something to say, people have told me songs of mine have saved their life. Somebody met their fiance through a song of mine.
Unknown
Can you tell that story real quick?
Riley Smithson
Yeah. So somebody was in a yoga class and a song of mine was playing in the yoga class. And after the class they went up to the teacher and was like, hey, what song was that that was playing? And it happened to be my song, Cherish. And they have been in a loving relationship ever since.
Unknown
Just because she went to ask the teacher the name of it. That's great.
Riley Smithson
I know, right?
Unknown
Yeah. It just takes one, one thing, and music is a big part of that. And speaking of music, the World Pushed against you is your newest project. Can you tell us about the process of creating it and some of your favorite songs that we should be listening for?
Riley Smithson
Yeah, so this is a very. I don't know if, like, it's a dancer project than most of the stuff I've released in the past for a couple reasons. One, I. I like performing quite a bit, and a lot of my music in the past wasn't super performance oriented. So I would find myself in this place where I would have to make a bun of music just to perform and then not really have a way to release it because it was like two worlds that I didn't know how to bring together. But this is like my first real attempt at trying to release an album that I can play out, that other DJs can play out if they want to. And I wanted it to be still authentic and still, like emotional music and still feel like me. But yeah, it was a. It was a great exercise in trying to incorporate all my same elements, but have it be more dance floor, I guess, appropriate, I would say. One song I'm particularly excited about on it is Destroyer featuring Cold Panda. He's. He was one of the first artists I got really into when I got into electronic stuff. I. I toured with him last year a little bit and he's just a sweet guy and he sent me a couple of modular loops and I Kind of took over the collab. I kind of just went crazy on it because I was excited about it. And it ended up being like a very cerebral, like seven minute long. It's the longest song I've ever made. It's like a. The BPM on it starts slow and throughout, basically the whole song, it speeds up slowly. So it's like kind of this natural crescendo type thing. And. Yeah, I don't know, it just felt like a. Creatively, it's something I'm proud of because it's, it's. It pushes all the boundaries that I like to push. It's maybe a little. It's definitely not a pop song. You know what I mean? It's not something that would be on the radio. It's. It's pretty weird, but it's a personal favorite of mine.
Unknown
More, a little more upbeat than typically. What would. Visceral versus, like a visceral, brooding, dark sort of. This would be a little more opposite of that.
Riley Smithson
It's still brooding. Sure, it's. It's a little. But yeah, it's. It's just a journey. I guess that sounds a little cliche to use that word, but that's the best word I can think of right now.
Unknown
I don't think it's cliche at all. But, you know, I do need to ask you something because I'm sure there are some listening who are just learning about you now and they want to know, like myself, you have a beautiful nose. Where did the name Shrimp Nose? Come from? Please explain. Of course, there's a few people just, you know, I can think of just two that pop in my head that have a name like that. One would be Meatloaf and the other Jelly Roll. So nice. Shrimp Roll. Shrimp Roll. Shrimp Nose is a very unique name.
Riley Smithson
So in high school I had this really good friend, Brandon. He was a very eccentric guy. He would always be saying eccentric, weird stuff. And one day, as I was pretty new into producing, maybe like a year or so in, I was recording some clips of him to maybe use in a song. Just him being a goofy guy. And out of nowhere he screams, john Shrimp Nose. It used to be John Shrimp Nose. I cut the John off a couple years ago.
Unknown
I love that and that. And it just stuck from there.
Riley Smithson
Yeah, I, I heard it and I loved it immediately. It was. It doesn't mean anything, which I like. It doesn't take itself too seriously, you know, and.
Unknown
But it's catchy.
Riley Smithson
Yeah, it's catchy, simple.
Unknown
And it makes people want to Come see you just to see.
Riley Smithson
I hope so.
Unknown
So I have to say I was a little curious too. You always wonder where people get their names from. But I think that's really cool and I think you're really cool. Thank you for our listeners. Now can you tell us how music can lift you up and give whoever's listening a greater confidence in their own life? Because you know, what you struggle with on a daily basis, it's sort of unimaginable that you could turn it around and not only produce and create such amazing music that helps others, but also get on stage and perform it in front of them too. I mean, that's huge in and of itself. So what. What kind of advice would you give to anyone listening right now?
Riley Smithson
Sure, of course. So with my speech, I've struggled quite a bit. It affects basically every part of my life. It was the reason I dropped out of college. I was having a really hard time participating in classes and it affected my self esteem quite a bit. It affects me ordering a cheeseburger at McDonald's. It affects dating, it affects making friends at parties or meeting people professionally at shows. Not to be too woe is me right now, but my, my point is music has been one thing that I can be in control of that brings me confidence through that. And I think that's the really beautiful thing about it in the sense that the. The key to success is just consistency over time basically. So if you just commit yourself to something, it will reward you. The, the longer that you commit yourself to it and make music that makes me feel good and I hope makes other people feel good. I do make it primarily for myself. I know a lot of artists try to make music for other people, but I have no and saying I'm selfish and I make it for myself because I like it.
Unknown
I think that's the best stuff ever. I think that's such great advice, people. You should do what's good for you. And then if it resonates with others, that only gives you more fuel for the fire to keep going as opposed to trying to figure out what everyone wants to hear or see.
Riley Smithson
Yeah, yeah. If. If you want confidence through music, you gotta primarily do it for yourself. You know, you got to make what you want to hear. You got to know what you like and what you don't like. You know, don't go along with something that's popular that you don't like. I can be. What's the word? Pretty picky. Musically. There's a lot that I don't like, but me me knowing that I don't like it informs me as to what I do like. And you know, it helps, it helps the process. So just be, be sure of what you like and what you don't like and try to make things that you do like, I suppose.
Unknown
No, and what you said nails it. Hard work. I mean, just keep working at it, keep doing it. The more prolific you are, eventually it does pan out.
Riley Smithson
Yeah, absolutely.
Unknown
It's great advice and thank you so much for, for sharing your power. It's a very powerful story that you have to share with people and I think it's, it's an amazing story and I'm so happy for you and I'm so glad that you wanted to come on Music Save Me to share your story. Riley Smithson, Shrimp Nose. Come back and visit us again on Music Save Me.
Riley Smithson
Will do. Yeah, absolutely.
Unknown
Good luck. With everything you have going on, you are the one to watch. So we'll be watching you.
Riley Smithson
Thank you so much.
Unknown
Thank you.
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Podcast Title: Takin' a Walk
Host: Buzz Knight
Episode: Classic Music Saved Me Replay with The Inspirational Story of Shrimpnose
Release Date: July 13, 2025
In this heartfelt episode of Takin' a Walk, hosted by Buzz Knight of iHeartPodcasts, listeners are introduced to the captivating journey of Riley Smithson, professionally known as Shrimpnose. As a producer and instrumentalist, Shrimpnose shares his inspirational story of overcoming personal challenges through the healing power of music.
Riley begins by reflecting on his early introduction to music. At the tender age of five, his father gifted him a drum kit, which became his first step into the world of music.
[04:54] Riley Smithson: "There were... I didn't have blocks or obstacles in my way when I was playing drums or playing guitar or whatever it was, which made me fall in love with that, so to speak."
Growing up in a musical household, with both parents actively involved in a band, Riley found solace and a means of communication in playing instruments—a vital outlet considering the speech impediment he developed during childhood.
Riley candidly discusses the challenges he faced due to his speech impediment, which significantly impacted his social interactions and self-esteem during his school years.
[07:13] Riley Smithson: "I was having a really hard time participating in classes and it affected my self-esteem quite a bit. It affects me ordering a cheeseburger at McDonald's. It affects dating, it affects making friends at parties or meeting people professionally at shows."
Music became his refuge, allowing him to express himself without the barriers that verbal communication imposed.
As Riley delves into his musical evolution, he shares how his passion for diverse instruments and genres shaped his artistry. Despite being left-handed, he chose to play his instruments in an unconventional manner, flipping them upside down instead of investing in left-handed versions.
[09:16] Riley Smithson: "I play all my instruments backwards. It's not super common. Basically, any guitar teacher would tell you not to do that."
Riley's experimentation led him to explore various genres, from electronic to folk, and he emphasizes the importance of blending influences to create emotive and authentic music.
[16:37] Riley Smithson: "In my music, I tend to incorporate a lot of acoustic guitar, which is maybe a little untraditional for most electronic artists, but it is a very emotive instrument."
Riley introduces his latest project, The World Pushed Against You, marking his foray into a more dance-oriented sound while maintaining his signature emotional depth.
[18:59] Riley Smithson: "This is my first real attempt at trying to release an album that I can play out, that other DJs can play out if they want to. And I wanted it to still be authentic and still, like, emotional music and still feel like me."
One standout track, "Destroyer," featuring Gold Panda, showcases Riley's ability to push creative boundaries with its seven-minute, cerebral composition that evolves dynamically throughout.
[20:00] Riley Smithson: "It's the longest song I've ever made. It's like a natural crescendo type thing."
When asked about his unique stage name, Riley recounts a memorable moment from high school involving his eccentric friend Brandon.
[22:23] Riley Smithson: "In high school I had this really good friend, Brandon. He was a very eccentric guy. One day, as I was pretty new into producing, I was recording some clips of him to maybe use in a song. And out of nowhere he screams, 'John Shrimp Nose.' I heard it and I loved it immediately."
The name "Shrimpnose" resonated with Riley for its playful and carefree essence, embodying his approach to music and life.
Towards the end of the episode, Riley offers empowering advice to listeners facing their own struggles:
[24:05] Riley Smithson: "Music has been one thing that I can be in control of that brings me confidence through that. The key to success is just consistency over time basically. So if you just commit yourself to something, it will reward you."
He emphasizes the importance of creating music for oneself first, which naturally resonates with others, fueling personal growth and confidence.
[25:32] Riley Smithson: "If you want confidence through music, you gotta primarily do it for yourself. You got to make what you want to hear."
In this inspiring episode, Takin' a Walk offers a profound look into how Riley "Shrimpnose" Smithson harnessed the transformative power of music to navigate and overcome personal adversities. His story serves as a testament to the resilience of the human spirit and the universal language of music that connects and heals.
Notable Quotes:
Riley Smithson on Music as Expression:
[04:54] Riley Smithson: "It was always the thing that made me feel good and felt natural and was something I felt good at without having to try too hard."
On Embracing Imperfections:
[14:05] Riley Smithson: "We have to be a vessel for the music more than more than anything because it's really easy to get stuck and kind of hate what you're doing if it becomes more of an intellectual thing than a feeling thing."
On Personal Growth through Music:
[25:32] Riley Smithson: "You got to make what you want to hear. You got to know what you like and what you don't like."
This episode not only highlights Shrimpnose's musical talents but also serves as an empowering narrative for anyone seeking to find their voice and strength through creative expression.