Podcast Summary: Classic Music Saved Me with Pat Monahan from Train
Podcast: takin’ a walk – MUSIC HISTORY ON FOOT
Host: Buzz Knight (episode guest interviewer: Lynne Hoffman)
Guest: Pat Monahan (Lead singer, Train)
Release Date: September 3, 2025
Episode Theme: Exploring how music heals, the personal and communal impact of Train’s songs, and Pat Monahan’s journey with music, challenges, and philanthropy.
Episode Overview
In this heartfelt episode, Pat Monahan, the frontman of the Grammy-winning band Train, reflects on the transformative and healing power of music—both in his own life and for his fans. Hosted by Lynne Hoffman, the conversation covers Pat’s personal journey from his childhood in Erie, PA to global stardom, the stories behind some of Train’s biggest hits, coping with loss, his philanthropic work, surviving vocal surgery, and the enduring hope embedded in his songwriting. This episode offers an intimate look at the role of vulnerability, resilience, and hope in both art and life.
Key Discussion Points and Insights
1. The Healing Power of Music
- Music as a Catalyst for Change (01:35, 03:05)
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Pat recounts a powerful story about the song “Hey Soul Sister,” where an 8-year-old, nonverbal autistic boy spontaneously began singing along to the song—the first words he’d ever spoken.
“The first thing that they ever heard this 8 year old do was sing that song.”
—Pat Monahan [01:35, 03:05] -
Pat firmly believes in the mysterious capacity of music to trigger emotional and cognitive breakthroughs, stating:
“There’s got to be something in music that stimulates our brains and hearts to shift or change or progress, whatever it is. But I definitely believe in it. I know music has saved my life many times.”
—Pat Monahan [03:05]
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2. Pat’s Personal Journey and Connection to Fans
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Finding Himself Through Music (04:18)
- Pat shares his childhood experience of feeling out of place in sports and academics, turning to singing (particularly Led Zeppelin covers) as his self-expression and escape.
“Music was a thing that separated me from my peers...I would just sing to everybody in class and it was usually Led Zeppelin songs.”
—Pat Monahan [04:18]
- Pat shares his childhood experience of feeling out of place in sports and academics, turning to singing (particularly Led Zeppelin covers) as his self-expression and escape.
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The Trainiac Community and Artist-Fan Relationships (05:11)
- The long-term, almost familial, bond Pat feels with Train’s devoted fans ("Trainiacs"), highlighting personal communications and events like biennial fan cruises.
"...these people have been with me for, you know, 30 years. So we’ve become very close friends. We email each other and sometimes talk on the phone and other times we meet on a cruise every other year, which is really a great way to connect..."
—Pat Monahan [05:11]
- The long-term, almost familial, bond Pat feels with Train’s devoted fans ("Trainiacs"), highlighting personal communications and events like biennial fan cruises.
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Honesty in Songwriting—How Much to Share (05:58)
- Pat differentiates between sharing relatable struggles and keeping personal hardships private, focusing on not burdening fans.
“I share what feels like it wouldn’t be a burden for people...if I do have struggles, I don’t really look to train fans for sympathy or comfort.”
—Pat Monahan [05:58]
- Pat differentiates between sharing relatable struggles and keeping personal hardships private, focusing on not burdening fans.
3. Creating “Drops of Jupiter”—Loss and Inspiration
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Origin Story of the Song (07:11)
- Song was born out of grief after Pat’s mother passed away; lyrics and melody came to him in a dream, interpreted as a message from his mother about her journey “to the other side.”
“I was emotionally not in the mood because I lost my mother just recently...I woke up with all the lyrics and melodies in my head as though my mother had delivered me the message...you can swim through the planets and come back with drops of Jupiter in your hair.”
—Pat Monahan [07:11]
- Song was born out of grief after Pat’s mother passed away; lyrics and melody came to him in a dream, interpreted as a message from his mother about her journey “to the other side.”
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Surprise at Its Success (08:23)
- Pat expresses humility and disbelief at the song’s massive resonance, noting how unconventional it was for radio at the time.
“There’s no reason for that song to become a hit...Drops of Jupiter was like 4 minutes and 20 seconds or something...It was pretty interesting that it happened.”
—Pat Monahan [08:23, 08:46]
- Pat expresses humility and disbelief at the song’s massive resonance, noting how unconventional it was for radio at the time.
4. Giving Back: The Family House Charity
- Mission and Connection (09:00)
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Family House supports low-income families with very sick children treated at UCSF Hospital. Proceeds from Train’s wine sales go to the charity.
“Most of them are brain tumors, eye tumors, things with the head that UCSF Hospital is very specialized in...It’s just an incredible program that has saved people’s lives and dignity for many years.”
—Pat Monahan [09:00] -
On the decision to give back:
“It was obvious at the time that it was time to give back to the Bay Area for all they’ve done for us. So it was a pretty easy choice.”
—Pat Monahan [10:20]
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5. Surviving and Thriving After Vocal Surgery
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Initial Fear and Outcome (10:44, 11:39)
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Pat opens up about the terror of potentially losing his singing voice due to surgery, likened by another singer to “Tom Brady getting his right arm worked on.”
“At the time, it was...the scariest thing that you can imagine. And...they actually removed scar tissue from both folds of my vocal cords because...There were times I couldn’t sing at all.”
—Pat Monahan [10:44]“He said, man, that’s like Tom Brady getting his right arm worked on. And I was like, that’s not really what I was hoping you’d say...when I came out of it...he did an incredible job. And here I am, able to sing, in many cases, better than I ever have...There are things I can’t do anymore, but for the most part, I can do it all.”
—Pat Monahan [11:39]
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Adapting Post-Surgery (12:29, 13:22)
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Pat refrained from listening to music while healing, focusing instead on retraining his voice to avoid future damage—especially after years of emulating Led Zeppelin’s Robert Plant.
“Music wasn’t going to be what was going to, like, pull me out of being scared, because listening to people sing, it’s just like, I want to keep being able to do that.”
—Pat Monahan [12:29]“I think singing those Led Zeppelin songs put me in more jeopardy than...that’s why Robert Plant doesn’t do it anymore. He’s probably like, what are you doing, kid?”
—Pat Monahan [13:23]
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6. Legacy and Philosophy: The Need for Hope
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Intent for His Music (13:35)
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While acknowledging the fleeting nature of fame, Pat hopes his music brings hope and comfort, emphasizing that hope is essential and "underrated."
“I just think that music is supposed to have hope. I always did...I think people need to have hope somewhere.”
—Pat Monahan [13:35] -
“Calling All Angels” arose during a personal crisis, inspired by a therapist’s advice about “angels and traitors.”
“We are divided between angels and traitors and I had to call my angels and I was like, consider it stolen. Those are the things that gave me hope and I feel like that was the message I was supposed to deliver.”
—Pat Monahan [13:35]
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Therapeutic Nature of Songwriting (15:15)
- Songwriting plays a critical role in his mental health.
“If I didn’t have the ability to write music then I would be a mess because it really helps a lot.”
—Pat Monahan [15:15]
- Songwriting plays a critical role in his mental health.
Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments
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On music’s mysteries and miracles:
“There’s got to be something in music that stimulates our brains and hearts to shift or change or progress, whatever it is...”
—Pat Monahan [03:05] -
On the fragility of a singer’s career:
“That’s like Tom Brady getting his right arm worked on, and I was like, that’s not really what I was hoping you’d say...”
—Pat Monahan [11:39] -
On sharing hope through art:
“Hope is underrated and really helps.”
—Pat Monahan [13:35]
Timestamps for Important Segments
- Hey Soul Sister and Autism Story: 01:35, 03:05
- Pat’s Childhood and Start in Music: 04:18
- Relationship with Fans (Trainiacs): 05:11
- Songwriting and Personal Boundaries: 05:58
- Drops of Jupiter Origin Story: 07:11
- Reflections on Song’s Success: 08:23, 08:46
- Family House Charity: 09:00, 10:20
- Vocal Surgery and Recovery: 10:44, 11:39, 12:29, 13:22
- Musical Legacy & Hope: 13:35
- Songwriting as Therapy: 15:15
Conclusion
This episode offers an intimate, inspiring conversation with Pat Monahan on the deeply human side of making music. He highlights the almost mystical healing properties of song, the importance of humility and hope, and the value of building real connection—both with an audience and within oneself. Through poignant stories, humor, and candid insights, listeners are reminded that while songs may not last forever, the hope and comfort they offer can ripple far beyond their sound.
