Comedy Saved Me-Behind the Laughter with Wendy Liebman

Summary

Comedy Saved Me – Behind the Laughter with Wendy Liebman

Podcast: takin' a walk
Host: Lynn Hoffman (for this Comedy Saved Me crossover)
Guest: Wendy Liebman
Date: October 6, 2025
Duration: 00:02–54:26

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Overview

In this heartfelt and candid episode, host Lynn Hoffman sits down with the legendary stand-up comedian Wendy Liebman. Known for her razor-sharp one-liners and signature misdirection, Wendy reflects on how comedy truly saved her, shares behind-the-scenes stories from her decades-spanning career, discusses the healing power of laughter, and offers advice to up-and-coming comics. The conversation bounces between humor and vulnerability, exploring how Wendy’s journey through depression led her to embrace comedy both as a craft and a source of personal transformation.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Clothes We Wear, On Stage and Off

• [01:11] Lynn and Wendy bond over always wearing black on stage—both for elegance and not distracting the audience.
• Wendy jokes, “My niece once asked me, Aunt Wendy, why do you dress like a mime?” ([02:34])
• Wendy occasionally tries to mix it up, buying a pink jacket: “I’m going to return it tomorrow… It’s not me.” ([01:43])

2. How Comedy (Literally) Saved Wendy

• [05:46] Wendy recounts how she was deeply depressed while working in psych research after college and stumbled onto a course in stand-up comedy through a misdelivered mail catalog.
• “When I read those words, it was like a light bulb went off, like, Eureka. … I just knew this is what I am: a standup comedian. ... I decided I would rather make a hundred people laugh than one person cry as a therapist.” ([05:56–08:21])
• She cites studies showing laughter’s therapeutic effects (gelotology) and the importance of being around people.

3. From Psychology to Punchlines

• Lynn asks if Wendy’s psych background influenced her comedy. Wendy says being a therapist is about listening—something she’s honed as a comedian as well ([09:17]).
• On sensing audiences: “If I’m in an airport, I pick up on things around me. … It just honed my senses, I think.” ([09:17])

4. Crafting a Career & Advice for Young Comics

• To her younger self: “Perform as much as humanly possible.” Wendy describes being on stage nightly—sometimes at multiple open mics. ([10:29])
• Venue access was easier in the 80s: “There were a lot more venues and a lot fewer comedians.”
• On material: “Try new material all the time. ... I write all the time, I just don't try it out all the time.” ([10:29–12:12])
• Shares that she tends to work on the same jokes for years, honing them, and encourages others to "be fearless."

5. Handling Failure and Hecklers

• Wendy describes feeling “very alone, very misunderstood, panicky and depressed” each time she bombs on stage—echoing how she felt before she found comedy ([14:26]).
• “Part of what made me do stand up was an insecurity that I would fit in or get along.” ([13:50])

6. Signature Style: The Art of Misdirection & The Perfect Pause

• Her misdirection style “is just the way my brain works,” but she credits influences like Jonathan Katz, Brian Kiley, Laura Kightlinger, and especially Kevin Meaney for teaching her about rapid-fire taglines and not fearing silence ([16:15]).
• “Now in my 60s, I appreciate the silence more ... I do like the silence now. I take my time now on stage.” ([17:56–18:12])
• Reflects on origins: her mother's need to fill silence possibly drives her own impulse to keep audiences engaged ([18:23]).

7. Misconceptions About Comedians

• Stereotype: “Maybe that we’re funny all the time.” Wendy says her husband is actually the funny one at home ([19:31]).
• Shares a fun family history: her husband is the son of the songwriting Sherman Brothers (“Mary Poppins,” “It’s a Small World,” “Chitty Chitty Bang Bang”). Her husband’s experience with the polio vaccine inspired “A Spoonful of Sugar.” ([21:04])

8. Most Memorable Shows

• Opening for Bob Hope for 5,000 people: “That was surreal. ... I feel like Zelig sometimes.” ([22:08])
• Basement gig for 8 people in Dearborn: “It was joyous… We knew everybody’s name… I felt like a puck on an air hockey board.” ([22:23])
• Audience interaction: Wendy’s evolved from “following my script” to spontaneous crowd work, inspired by comics like Paula Poundstone and Jimmy Brogan ([23:26–25:56]).

9. The Role of Comedy in Healing and Life

• “Hearing laughter for 40 years—I wonder what that does to somebody’s psyche.” ([37:07])
• Comedy is Wendy’s "fix" that keeps her from depression ([36:35]).
• On laughter: “A laughing crowd is a chorus of peace, because we’re all on the same wavelength at that point. And it’s joyous.” ([39:28–40:06])

10. Resilience: Life & Career Bumps

• Wendy survived two serious car accidents. After the first, “I thought, I have to get back out there.” She auditioned for America’s Got Talent and found community and renewed purpose ([41:11–43:07]).
• The second accident left her unable to walk for almost 14 months but also gave her time for reflection and feeling loved ([44:03–45:35]).

11. Love, Marriage, and Dogs

• Married 22 years, together for 3 before that. Describes her husband as an “angel” who cared for her during recovery ([46:13–46:22]).
• Rescued two Jindo dogs from Korea: “They were rescued from a meat market in South Korea.” ([47:51])

12. Lingering Wisdom and Parting Advice

• “Just try new material all the time and also just have fun… I just want the audience to feel good.” ([48:59–49:58])
• Shares inspiration from Yo-Yo Ma—treating every show as hosting a party for the audience.
• Her “what I learned from stand up comedy” list: “You are unique, but you’re also equal to everybody. Wear whatever you want and pray that nobody throws anything at your head.” ([53:11])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On discovering comedy:
  “When I read those words, it was like a light bulb went off, like, Eureka. I heard angels singing… I just knew this is what I am—a standup comedian.” —Wendy Liebman ([05:56])
• Why she does standup:
  “I decided I would rather make a hundred people laugh than one person cry as a therapist or cry by myself.” —Wendy Liebman ([07:55])
• On handling silence:
  “Now in my 60s, I appreciate the silence more. … My husband, for our 22nd anniversary, gave me a book called The Power of Silence. Oh, that's just a joke.” —Wendy Liebman ([17:29])
• On the unglamorous side of the job:
  “My job I see as getting to the gig… It's also learning how to do morning PR, which is radio, or learning how to do press, which I didn't know was part of my job.” —Wendy Liebman ([33:47])
• After her car accident:
  “I have to get back out there...I auditioned for America’s Got Talent and that really did, like, boost my visibility.” —Wendy Liebman ([41:36])
• On laughter as healing:
  “A laughing crowd is a chorus of peace, because we’re all on the same wavelength at that point. And it’s joyous.” —Wendy Liebman ([39:28])
• Advice to her younger self:
  “Be fearless. Try new material all the time. And just have fun.” —Wendy Liebman ([13:49], [48:59])
• Family Fun Fact:
  “My husband is the son of a songwriter who wrote a lot of the music for Disney. … They wrote the song ‘It’s a Small World.’” —Wendy Liebman ([20:43])
• On her dogs:
  “They were rescued from a meat market in South Korea... As trainable as carrots.” —Wendy Liebman ([47:51])

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Important Timestamps

• [01:11] Lynn & Wendy bond over always wearing black
• [05:46] Wendy describes how depression pushed her to comedy
• [10:29] Advice to young comedians and her own evolution
• [13:49] Overcoming fear, learning from bombing and insecurity
• [16:15] Influences on her style; the power of silence
• [22:08] Opening for Bob Hope, and her most memorable gigs
• [36:35] Laughter as a “fix” for her well-being
• [39:28] On the healing power of laughing together
• [41:11] Recovering from accidents; resurgence via America's Got Talent
• [47:51] Rescuing her beloved dogs from South Korea
• [48:59] Parting wisdom: new material and having fun
• [53:11] “What I learned from stand up comedy…”

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Closing

Wendy’s story is rich with honesty—about pain and healing, the quirks of her craft, and the grounded happiness she’s found in making others laugh. With grace, openness, and impeccable timing (“It’s the filter…”), she reminds us that comedy, at its core, is both a shield and a gift.

Where to find her: wendyliebman.com
Social: On all platforms except X (Twitter)

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Transcript

[Lynn Hoffman]

Comedy Saved Me. Hey, welcome to Comedy Saved Me. I am your host, Lynn Hoffman. And if you're enjoying the show, first of all, thank you. And also, could you do me a quick favor? Maybe drop a rating or review on Iheart, Apple or Spotify or wherever you listen, because it would really help us spread the word and let others know that you think the show is kind of cool, which we so much appreciate. And hopefully we can get more folks to check it out because the more good that we can do and the more good we can spread, the better. So thank you for that. Today I sit down with a comedian whose punchlines are like magic tricks. Boom. Right between the eyes. You never see them coming until you're laughing out loud. She is the queen of the perfectly timed pause, a master of the one liner and a trailblazer who's been making audiences crack up for decades. Get ready to walk through a sharp, witty, and wonderfully surprising world of Wendy Liebman right now on Comedy Saved Me. Wendy, welcome to Comedy Save Me. It is so great to have you here.

[Wendy Liebman]

I loved that intro. Thank you. I hope I can live up to that.

[Lynn Hoffman]

You already have and then some. And everybody knows you. You've been on every show that's possible that could feature comedians. Wendy and I were talking before we started the show about our weird thing that we have with the color black that if you go look her up online, pretty much every time you here on stage, she's wearing black. And I thought, wow, I do the exact same thing. I went into my closet, it's all black. It's unbelievable. So we have that little kinship between us.

[Wendy Liebman]

Well, I think when I'm on stage, I don't want to distract the audience. So if I just wear black, then they're not looking at my paisley or skirt or what, you know, whatever. But I did tell you that I bought a pink jacket to wear on stage the other day. Just because people need to change every once in a while. I don't mean change their clothes, but, you know, change grow. So I bought a pink jacket from Macy's and I'm going to return it tomorrow. I do it. Not me. It's not me. Who am I kidding?

[Lynn Hoffman]

I do it all the time. All the time. I. I try to convince myself that it's to look good, and then I always end up throwing on a black T shirt and calling it a day.

[Wendy Liebman]

I mean, my niece once asked me, aunt Wendy, why do you dress like a mime? And I was like, who can say.

[Lynn Hoffman]

That'S all you had to say with the hands. I love it. All right, well, Wendy, I just got you here, and all of a sudden we have to take a quick break, but we have to pay the bills somehow. So if you wouldn't mind hanging out for a second. And we'll be right back with Wendy.

[Wendy Liebman]

This is an I Heart podcast.

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[Jonathan Goldstein]

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[Lynn Hoffman]

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[Jonathan Goldstein]

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[Lynn Hoffman]

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[Jonathan Goldstein]

Listen to heavyweight on the iHeartRadio app, Apple PODC, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jay Shetty]

Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of the On Purpose podcast. Recently, I had a conversation with the one and only Madonna.

[Madonna (voice clip)]

When I was broke and I had no friends, nowhere to live, I was held up at gunpoint. I was robbed. All these horrendous things happened to me. I had such an unhappy childhood that whatever happened to me in New York.

[Wendy Liebman]

Is better than what my life was.

[Madonna (voice clip)]

So I'm not going back.

[Jay Shetty]

Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dr. J]

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[Wendy Liebman]

Capacity, I'm gonna walk away feeling like, yes. I'm gonna continue my healing journey list.

[Dr. J]

Here with Dr. J from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Jonathan Goldstein]

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[Snacks from Trap Nerds]

Then we'll be talking about our favorite horror and Halloween movies and figuring out why black people always die first.

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And it's the return of Tony's horror show Side Quest, written and narrated by yours truly. We'll also be doing a full episode reading with commentary, and we'll cap it.

[Snacks from Trap Nerds]

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[Lynn Hoffman]

Andy Liebman on Comedy Saved me. Comedy Saved me.

[Wendy Liebman]

And we're back.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Wendy Liebman, can you share a moment when comedy truly saved you, when laughter helped you get through, you know, a really tough time in your life?

[Wendy Liebman]

You know, honestly, I think I started doing stand up. I mean, who knows why anybody does anything? But I was very depressed. I was doing psych research. I was going to be a therapist. I was doing psych research at Harvard Medical School. I had just graduated from college. I went to Wellesley and I thought I was going to be a therapist. And I myself was very depressed. And I took in the mail from the wrong apartment. And in the mail was a course catalog for an adult ed center, like the Learning Annex, but it was called the Adult Ed center of Cambridge. In it was a course on how to be a standup comedian. And Lynn, when I read those words, it was like a light bulb went off, like, Eureka. Like, I heard angel singing. And even though I had never thought about being a standup comedian in my life, I just felt like it was a calling, basically, like, this is what I'm supposed to do. And even though I was not great for a couple of years, I just knew that this is what I am, a standup comedian. So it saved me in that I was less depressed. I would go to every comedy show I could. Laughter itself is very healing. And they've done studies. There's a whole study about laughter. I think it's called gelatology. And they, it's out of Stanford. And they show how it helps increase breath and dopamine and, you know, all the good things in your body. And just being around people was really good for me, too. And I decided I would rather make a hundred people laugh than one person cry as a therapist or cry by myself. And I think it really, that was a long answer, but it truly was what I needed psychologically, both watching comedy, I love to laugh, and being the person on stage making the audience laugh. It's a weird job, though, if you think about it like that's what we do. It is.

[Lynn Hoffman]

And it's interesting to me, when I was reading about you, you graduated Wellesley College as a psychologist, which is amazing. I minored in psychology, but I kind of knew what I wanted to do, so I thought it would be helpful just to be able to communicate with people overall, just to understand people more. But you actually wanted to go full on and help people with therapy. And I'm just curious how much of that has helped you in comedy.

[Wendy Liebman]

I think a big part of being a therapist is listening, and I think I really listen to the audience. Like, I've honed that skill. I am aware of the audience. Like, I realize I'm also aware, like if I'm in an airport, I pick up on things around me. So it just honed my senses, I think, being. Thinking that I was going to be a psychologist and then actually doing stand up. I don't know if that answered your question, but I. There's some overlap.

[Lynn Hoffman]

No, no, that. That does make sense. And it's interesting too that you just said that you can kind of tell what's going on with people. And is that because of your education or maybe you're sensitive?

[Wendy Liebman]

I think a little of both.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Wendy Liebman]

It's hard to tell.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Yeah, it is. It's very confusing when you obviously picked the right career path. Right. Because you've been incredibly successful. I. I was curious what your approach to comedy and how it evolved over the years you've been doing this a while and what advice you would give to your younger self, maybe when you were just starting out.

[Wendy Liebman]

I tell comedians now who ask me for advice to perform as much as humanly possible, which is what I did when I first started. Even though I had a day job, I was at at least one, if not three open mics every single night in Boston. And there were a lot more venues and a lot fewer comedians, so it was a lot easier to get on stage. So I would drive all over town or through five states. Rhode Island, Connecticut, Vermont, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, and then I'd be back at work the next morning. So that's the main thing is performing as much as possible because you could think you're the funniest person in the world and you might be, but until you hear the audience laughing, yeah, you need like, practical experience. So that's one thing I would tell myself, which I listened to, but the other thing I would. I tell people now, the thing that I wish people had told me was try new material all the time, because I would tend and I still do tend to hone my jokes that I have and work on them for years. And I would have a lot more material and a few more specials if I had taken chances and trusted the audience enough to. Or trusted myself to feel comfortable trying out new material. I write all the time. I just don't try it out all the time.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Well, wouldn't you say that that would be. That's incredibly interesting, but very familiar, as I work with a lot of producers, and I see that happen a lot where they get in their own way, because it's not done yet, but it's only subjective to you. But then it's like a birthing, because then you have to put it out there to be judged by everybody. So you want to make sure it's perfect. So that's kind of hard.

[Wendy Liebman]

Exactly. And I was with a few comedians the other night. I produced a benefit for reproductive rights, and I. I performed last year, and they asked me to produce it this year. And I had some of the best talent out there. I had Rita Rudner, who was one of my idols, and Kathy Griffin and Kathy Ladman and Stephanie Blum. And we were talking backstage about using jokes that we wrote 30 years ago, and not that any of us is Bruce Springsteen, but I said, bruce Springsteen still sings Born to Run every show, so if it works, it works. So, yeah, if your jokes aren't topical or seem out of context or ridiculous, they work. So why not use them anyway? But, yes, I would tell my former self to just take a million chances and be fearless. Be fearless.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Yeah, It's. Yeah.

[Wendy Liebman]

But part of what makes me do, or made me do stand up was an insecurity of that I would fit in or get along. And I've been heckled a few times, and I've been. And I've bombed. Not many times. I mean, I'm not bragging, but, like, I. I've bombed in the last 10 years, but I haven't bombed, like, where it was just painful, where the cane.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Came out and, like, dragged you off.

[Wendy Liebman]

But in those times when I have bombed, I felt the same way that I felt before I did stand up, which was very alone, very misunderstood, panicky and depressed.

[Lynn Hoffman]

But that has to ring true with so many people, what you just said, it happens to me all the time. It's amazing. You think you get 10 steps ahead, and then one thing happens, and then you're right back where you were before you learned that lesson.

[Wendy Liebman]

Well, I did a show the other night. It was like a private club in Beverly Hills, and it was 30 year old somethings. And it wasn't my audience, let's put it that way. It wasn't my audience. And I had to work, like, really work. Like they didn't know me at all. And I was reminded that, yeah, this is my, this is a job. What's my point? My point is every time I get on stage, it's a new audience. And you never know. Like, I have done it so many times for the past 40 something years that I know that I could get a laugh with a certain joke, but there's never any guarantee.

[Lynn Hoffman]

40 years, man, you have not even aged a second since the first time I saw you. You look amazing.

[Wendy Liebman]

It's the filter.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Yeah, that's right. Everything looks better on the camera. Your punchlines are famous for their subtle, shall I say, misdirection. How did you develop that signature style of yours and what challenges sort of came with it?

[Wendy Liebman]

I think that's just the way my brain works. And. But I think any quote, unquote artist, if I can call myself that, is influenced by the people that they grow up with, that they start their art with. And I was in Boston in the 80s and I would watch comedian Jonathan Katz, comedian Brian Kiley, who's my favorite joke writer. I would watch Laura Kightlinger, Don Gavin, Steve Sweeney and Kevin Meaney. And I would see them. Oh, and Bill Broadest. And I would see them and see what worked with them. And I remember watching Kevin Meaney one night, the late great Kevin Meaney, and he was on a roll, like there was never any lag. And I thought, that's what I want to do. I do not want silence. I. So I kept adding taglines.

[Lynn Hoffman]

So.

[Wendy Liebman]

Was an evolution. Like, that's all I can say. It was like I learned from watching and listening. And now in my 60s, I appreciate the silence more because I think there's actually. My husband, for our 22nd anniversary, gave me a book called the Power of Silence. Oh, that's just a joke.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Was he trying to tell you something? Because I should have been getting that book too.

[Wendy Liebman]

Yeah, So I do like the silence now. I take my time now on stage.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Yeah, that's weird. I always felt my whole life I had to fill the silence. I'm so nervous. Like, if it's too quiet, it gets weird. Right? But now it's like very powerful.

[Wendy Liebman]

I feel the exact same way. And I realized recently that it was about being around my mother who had to fill all the silence too. Like, we could never have any lag time in our conversation. Because then it meant something else might happen. Oh, my God. Not to get to. Not to get too heady and psychological about it, but I think that's where it comes from for me. Yeah. So I find myself with people probably like you, trying to make them feel comfortable and fill the gaps. I've been talking to my husband's cousin. She's a wellness coach. And at the beginning of our zooms, we take breaths, and so we have to be quiet.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Oh, God, that must be so weird to do that.

[Wendy Liebman]

I know. Oh, I know. It is.

[Lynn Hoffman]

What is a common misunderstanding, Wendy, that audiences have about comedians and stand up comedy? Ooh.

[Wendy Liebman]

Maybe that we're funny all the time. And I have to say, I know some comedians who are always on, and then I know a lot of comedians who are, like, the opposite of funny when they're on. I mean, when they're not on. In my situation, my husband is the funny one for real. And for real, he's so funny, my husband. But he's also really shy. Like, he would never do stand up. He said, if I do stand up, I'm just gonna be on stage and I'm gonna wet my pants.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Hey, it might get a laugh, right?

[Wendy Liebman]

And I'll say, that's my time. But he always has some really creative, funny thing to say about every day.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Wow.

[Wendy Liebman]

Well, he's a writer. He wrote on a sitcom called Boy Meets World.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Oh, I remember that.

[Wendy Liebman]

Yes. And he's also the son of a songwriter who wrote a lot of the music for Disney.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Wow.

[Wendy Liebman]

They wrote Mary Poppins and Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. Oh, my gosh, the music. Yeah. They wrote the song It's a Small World.

[Lynn Hoffman]

So you're like your own little entertainment Mecca empire right there, just the two of you. Wow.

[Wendy Liebman]

It's just funny. Yeah. My husband inspired the song Spoonful of Sugar.

[Lynn Hoffman]

No way.

[Wendy Liebman]

Medicine go down. Yes. He came home from school and his dad said, what did you do today? And he said, we got the salt vaccine or the vaccine for polio. And my father in law said, you let them give you a shot? He was seven. And he. My husband said, no, they put it on a sugar cube, and the sugar cube was on a spoon and we just ate it.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Oh, my God, I have goosebumps. I can't believe that's such a fun fact that no one would ever know.

[Wendy Liebman]

Right. And so my father in law, like, twiddled his thumbs and called his brother, who was his writing partner. And the next day they wrote Spoonful of sugar helps medicine go down in.

[Lynn Hoffman]

The most Delightful way.

[Wendy Liebman]

Exactly.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Wow. Wow. You heard it here first. That is very cool. Unless you must. You must have told that story before.

[Wendy Liebman]

I'm sure, once or a zillion times.

[Lynn Hoffman]

What's the funniest or most memorable show that you've had and what made it stand out? Can you remember? You've done so many.

[Wendy Liebman]

Well, I have two shows that I always think about, and one was I got to open for Bob hope in the 90s.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Wow.

[Wendy Liebman]

Outside for 5,000 people.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Wow.

[Wendy Liebman]

And in Indianapolis. And that was surreal. I mean, I've opened for a lot of famous people like Ray Charles and Ann Margaret and Julio Iglesia. Like, I can't even believe my life. I feel like Zelig sometimes. And. But that was memorable just because of the comedy gravity. And then one time, I was in a basement of an Italian restaurant called Paisano's in Dearborn, Michigan, and there were eight people on a Sunday night, and it was joyous. I just included all eight of us. By the end, we knew everybody's name. I think I bought everybody a drink.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Wow.

[Wendy Liebman]

I felt like a puck on an air hockey board. I was in the moment. I just. It was. It was really fun. And, you know, I've gotten much more conversational talking to the audience over the years, whereas when I first started, it was like I had to follow my script and every word had to be in place. And because jokes rely on the rhythm and the punchline and, you know, the wording, there's timing and. Yeah, the timing. So I was very studious like that. But then I started talking to the audience, probably just to fill the time sometimes. And the audience loves that because it's like an inside joke with the audience. You feel like. You feel like the comedian is not just an actor saying lines, that they are really the comedy brain, the people who are best at that, you know. Now you see it a lot. Now you see a lot of comedians posting their audience interaction videos. But before that, this wave. Paula Poundstone is the best at it. She riffs with the audience. Comedian named Jimmy Brogan, who was one of the Jay Leno's head writers for many years. He's phenomenal. Russell Peters is amazing. Like, it's a real gift. And so I'm not great at it, but I've gotten better over the years, and I really enjoy it. Like, I opened for. I have a standing gig opening for Fritz Coleman, who was the weather guy here in LA for 40 years. And he does stand up. That's how he started. He was seen at a comedy Club, and they asked him if you wanted to do the weather, of all things. I know, I know. I think David Letterman started that way, too.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Wow.

[Wendy Liebman]

But so now he is a standing gig, and I do 20 minutes in front of him once a month, and his is more like a play, but my. So I do the opposite of that. I just. And interact with the audience and talk to them about life.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Wow.

[Wendy Liebman]

So I love. I love using that creative muscle.

[Lynn Hoffman]

It's sort of like relaxing in the saddle of life. It's the only kind of. Someone said that to me once.

[Wendy Liebman]

Oh, I love that.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Right. All of a sudden, it's like, even when I was doing the show originally, I had come off all public stuff for probably like 10, 12 years, and I really wasn't going to get back into doing anything unless it was for good purposes. Hence why I'm here. But being comfortable to say, wait a minute, hold on a second, let me look at a note that I just had here. You just mentioned, you know, and then it's okay to do that. You don't have to be so polished and perfectly right.

[Wendy Liebman]

I. Yeah, I bring notes sometimes and I even ask the audience, I say, I'm trying some new jokes. Would you mind? And they're like, no, no, of course.

[Snacks from Trap Nerds]

We'll be right back with more of the comedy Save Me podcast.

[Josh Clark]

Hi there. This is Josh Clark from the Stuff youf Should Know podcast. If you've been thinking, man alive, I could go for some good true crime podcast episodes, then have we got good news for you. Stuff youf Should Know just released a playlist of 12 of our best true crime episodes of all time. There's a shootout in broad daylight, people using axes in really terrible ways, disappearances, legendary heists, the whole nine yards. So check out the Stuff youf Should Know True crime Playlist on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and on the new season of Heavyweight, I help a centenarian mend a broken heart.

[Lynn Hoffman]

How can a 101-year-old woman fall in love again?

[Jonathan Goldstein]

And I help a man atonement for an armed robbery he committed at 14 years old.

[Lynn Hoffman]

And so I pointed the gun at him and said, this isn't a joke. And he got down. And I remember feeling kind of a surge of like, okay, this is power.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Plus, my old friend Gregor and his brother tried to solve my problems through hypnotism.

[Lynn Hoffman]

We could give you a whole brand new thing where you're, like, super charming.

[Josh Clark]

All the time, being more able to.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Look people in the eye, not always hide behind a microphone.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Listen to heavyweight on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jay Shetty]

Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of the On Purpose podcast. Recently I had a conversation with the one and only Madonna.

[Madonna (voice clip)]

When I was broke and I had no friends, nowhere to live, I was held up at gunpoint, I was robbed. All these horrendous things happen to me. I had such an unhappy childhood that whatever happened to me in New York.

[Wendy Liebman]

Is better than what my life was.

[Madonna (voice clip)]

So I'm not going back.

[Jay Shetty]

Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dr. J]

But the humility in knowing that life is this classroom that we should never graduate from is what is going to keep you growing and that's all that matters. World Mental Health Day is around the corner and on my podcast just heal with Dr. J, I dive into what it really means to care for your mind, body and spirit. From breaking generational patterns to building emotional capacity, healing is a journey and wholeness is the destination.

[Wendy Liebman]

I'm gonna walk away feeling very healed and feeling like yes, I'm gonna continue continue my healing journey and I I'm gonna get some keys from you.

[Dr. J]

Listen to just heal with Dr. J from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Snacks from Trap Nerds]

What's up everybody? This is Snacks from the Trap Nurse Podcast and we're bringing you the Horror every week all October long.

[Tony (Trap Nerds) / Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

Kicking off this month I'll be bringing you all my greatest fear inducing horror games from Resident Evil to Solid Hill, Me and Tony bringing back fireteam on Left for Dead two and we just gonna be going over some of the greats.

[Snacks from Trap Nerds]

Also in October we'll be talking about our favorite horror and Halloween movie and figure out why black people always gotta die first.

[Tony (Trap Nerds) / Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

The Umbral reliquary invites any and all fool brave enough to peruse its many curiosities. But take heed, all sales are final. Weekly horror side quests quest written and narrated by yours truly with a full episode read and a commentary special.

[Snacks from Trap Nerds]

And we will cap it off with Horror Movie Battle Royale, Jason versus Freddy, Michael Myers versus the Alien Thing with the Little Tongue Monster. October, we're doing it Halloween style. Listen to the Trap Nurse Podcast from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to the Comedy Saved Me Podcast.

[Lynn Hoffman]

You mentioned Paula Poundstone. And I just found out yesterday that she's going to be coming on the show as well. So I'm so stoked over that. You know, first I get Wendy Liebman, now Paula Poundstone's gonna come on, and I can't even wait to talk to her. If you could ask her a question, what would you ask her?

[Wendy Liebman]

Let me think about that. But I want to tell you a story about that. Okay. Yeah. So she originated in Boston, so when I was starting, she came back to do a show. And I remember watching her and thinking, and I had just done it for like six months. And I remember thinking, I am. I should just quit because I'm never going to be that funny. I can never be that funny. And 40 years later, I have realized everybody has their own voice. It's like there's room for every single voice. And so I was on a show that she was hosting recently. Like recently, probably a year and a half ago. And she watched everything and laughed at everything I said. And I thought, oh, my God. And she even tweeted about me the next day. And I thought, oh, my God, this is surreal. And it's full circle. And so what would I ask her? I would ask her if she would let me open for her. Now, I know that's a great question. She doesn't have anybody open for her. I don't know what I would ask her.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Think about that. We'll circle back.

[Wendy Liebman]

I will.

[Lynn Hoffman]

We'll circle back. I just like saying that I'm trying to think you'd mentioned something that. I'll come back to look at your notes.

[Wendy Liebman]

Look at your notes.

[Lynn Hoffman]

I. I'm Steve Sweeney. Kevin Meaney. Two of my all time favorites. In fact, when I was doing morning radio in Boston one year, I got a random phone call and I didn't know who it was and I. And it was Steve Sweeney. And they had hired him to do morning radio. A comedian doing morning radio, like having to get up at the time you would normally go to bed after a show. I have one question for you. And I said, what? And he said, how the hell do you get up at this ungodly hour and try to be funny and entertain people? I don't. And it was like, I couldn't imagine that he would even do the job, but he was really good. And we competed against each other in Boston and it was. Wow. It was very fun. And we became friendly. He is just an amazing. I love him so much. I just absolutely adore him.

[Wendy Liebman]

Yeah, he was he was like. He was amazing. I mean, he still is. But doing morning radio, that's like, in any job. It's not just the job. My job I see as getting to the gig, you know, either flying or driving. There's always some travel.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Wendy Liebman]

And it's also learning how to do morning pr, which is radio, or learning how to do press, which I didn't know that was part of my job. So I would fly to a city on the east coast, so I'm three hours behind. I go to sleep at three anyway, at home, so I wouldn't be asleep for more than an hour. And then I would have to get up and do radio. So it, like, really messes my circadian rhythm. But what's my point? Yeah. I don't know how. I don't know how you did morning radio.

[Lynn Hoffman]

I love that you get lost like I do sometimes. No, that was great. But sometimes the more tired you are, the better it is, you know, because you don't think so much about what you're doing, and you're just like, whatever.

[Wendy Liebman]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Oh, wait, you in the back, you have your hand up. Yeah.

[Wendy Liebman]

Oh, my God.

[Lynn Hoffman]

This.

[Wendy Liebman]

So for years, this is exactly true. I had a day job, as I said, so I didn't sleep a lot. So a lot of comedians back in the 80s, they would drink a lot, and so it was easier for them to get on stage. I anesthetized myself by being exhausted. No, I'm being serious. And then I recently had to do a radio show here in LA at night, and I was not tired at all. And I realized this is harder when I am way conscious.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Yes.

[Wendy Liebman]

Like, because I'm used to doing morning radio. So. Yes, I totally agree with you. Having less of or fewer faculties at that hour makes you freer.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Yeah, it just makes you looser and. And you don't care as much. You know, it's kind of what we talked about earlier.

[Wendy Liebman]

I feel connected with you.

[Madonna (voice clip)]

We have.

[Wendy Liebman]

We have the necklace, we have the hair.

[Lynn Hoffman]

You look amazing. I can't even tell you. I really, really feel connected to you the minute that you popped on the screen. And it's really weird, but I grew up in Boston, so maybe that might have something to do with it. And I'm sure you came on the John Lander morning show once or twice in Boston. It was, like, the number one show for many, many years. It was Lander and Maddie.

[Wendy Liebman]

I'm sure I was on your show. I'm sure.

[Lynn Hoffman]

And funny enough, it was Maddie at one Point Maddie Lander and Steve Sweeney, all on the mornings, different stations in Boston. Isn't that crazy?

[Wendy Liebman]

Well, I would have listened to you.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Oh, thanks, Wendy. When life gets stressful, what role does comedy play in keeping you grounded?

[Wendy Liebman]

I realized recently that I. I was having a hard time recently, and I. I haven't felt depressed since the 80s. That's good. When I started doing comedy, I know that's pretty good. I mean, medication and therapy help, but comedy does play a big role in that. And I realized that I hadn't performed in a while and it's like a fix. I needed a fix.

[Lynn Hoffman]

You were going through withdrawals.

[Wendy Liebman]

I really was, but I didn't realize it until I sat down and thought about it. That it does play a big role, hearing people laugh. I'm curious about that, too. I don't have that answer. But hearing laughter for 40 years, I wonder what that does to somebody's psyche.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Wow.

[Wendy Liebman]

Like maybe some kind of. I don't know. I don't know. But so la. So comedy. I also love watching comedy. Like yesterday I watched a comedian named Sam Murill. I've recently watched Jessica Curzon and Nate Bartgays, or Bart. I don't know how to pronounce his name, but I love, like, listening to Brian Regan and David tell. And yeah, I just love laughing because what it does is it makes me think a different way.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Right.

[Wendy Liebman]

Like when somebody's making you laugh, it's like, oh, there's like an out. So there's another way to think about this. It's not all consistent.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Wow. Wow. Well, I have to tell you, two things popped into my head when you were just saying that. One, we need the laugh app, the Wendy Leibman laugh app, where you just turn it on and it's just funny people laughing. Like, you don't even have to tell a joke, just laughing and hearing it. And then the other thing I was thinking is, my oldest, dearest friend, Scott, he had the funniest laugh growing up. That I remember telling him, if we could somehow bottle your laughter and. Or sell it like a commodity, they need it on TV shows. Because back then you had to have laugh tracks and stuff. You know, there wasn't any AI or so, but. But I loved him the most and that. And I look back and I think about what you're saying, and I'm wondering, you know, he could tell great stories and he always made me laugh, but his laugh was even funnier than his funny stories. And I wonder if maybe that's another reason why I was so close to him because he made me feel so good all the time.

[Wendy Liebman]

Well, I think that's. It's so healing to laugh, especially with somebody. And I feel like laughter is. The healing is exponential when you're laughing in a group. I want to get my quote right. I wrote something, and I want to get it right. Like, I can't remember exactly. I think it's a laughing crowd, is a chorus of peace, because we're all on the same wavelength at that point. And it's joyous. It really is.

[Lynn Hoffman]

It is. Have you ever had a moment, like, when you were on stage and you felt like you were helping the audience get through something and helping them heal?

[Wendy Liebman]

Well, always after something big, like after the pandemic or after 9, 11, I can feel that the audience wants to laugh more. So we're just the instigator. We're, like the impetus. We are there to say it's okay to laugh. So we're giving you permission, and if what you're saying is funny, that's even better. So I felt the laughter was, like, deeper after tragedy.

[Lynn Hoffman]

So, you know, and you bring up tragedy, and then, you know, tell me to shut up or not bring something up. But I saw something that, in my research on you that I thought was just so impressive, and, you know, you don't have to get into the reasons and all of it, but you were kind of taken out of commission because of a car accident, and.

[Wendy Liebman]

Oh, I'll talk about it.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Okay. Well, I mean, I don't know, and. But what I read was you put yourself back on the scene by going on. Was this correct? America's Got Talent?

[Wendy Liebman]

Yes. Okay, so you're talking about the first act that.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Oh, there was more than one. You weren't driving, were you?

[Wendy Liebman]

Do not hang out with me on Ventura Boulevard.

[Lynn Hoffman]

That's all I could say.

[Wendy Liebman]

Okay. The first time, my husband and I were driving back from a dinner. It was 11 at night. We were at a stoplight. There were four lanes across. Two of them were turning left, and we were hit by a drunk driver. All seven cars? Well, he was the seventh, but it was like he bowled into these stationary cars. The woman in the car right next to us died. Like, it was that close. Oh, my gosh. And so just by fate. By fate, we moved lanes because we didn't want to be behind this one group of kids in a car that seemed a little rowdy. Yeah. So we moved over. I was sitting on the bus bench on the side waiting for whatever to have the Hullabaloo and I thought, I have to get back out there. That's exactly what I said because I. I'd been doing standup, but I was also a stepmom at that point, and I stayed home more. And so I auditioned for America's Got Talent, and that really did, like, boost my visibility. So that was great.

[Lynn Hoffman]

But that's incredible that you put yourself out there that way. I mean, that's. It's like you didn't just come back. You went on a major widely watched show and put yourself right out there.

[Wendy Liebman]

Well, I had seen other, like, some peers on that show, and I thought, oh, if they did it, I can try. And it was really fun. And I never expected to win. I just thought, this is a good experience like that I have. As I gotten older, I think everything is just cumulative. It's all good experience. And I met amazing people, and I'm still friends with people that I met. The Sons of Serendip, which is this beautiful quartet. They started at bu, actually, they met at BU and they're just phenomenal. Matt Franco, who won that year, he's a magician. He has his own showroom in Vegas. So anyway, it was the people that I met.

[Lynn Hoffman]

That's cool. So you remain friends with all those people. That's very cool.

[Wendy Liebman]

Yeah, I fight. I knew I wasn't gonna win, so I wanted to win Miss Congenial Runner Up.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Oh, my gosh.

[Wendy Liebman]

And then the second accident, I was just walking across the street and I was hit by a car. Don't feel bad for me because I.

[Lynn Hoffman]

I've never had anyone say that to me. I was hit by a car. But don't feel bad for me.

[Wendy Liebman]

Don't feel bad because. So they broke a leg and both my feet. Then it should have been like six months recovery. But when they took the cast off, this is something that. This goes into the category of shit you can't make up. They took the cast off. They saw that one of that. The foot that was being rehabilitated or the leg was crooked. Like, they said it wrong. The rod was twisted, so they had to go back and re. Break the leg. And so that took another six months. So I was basically in bed. Don't feel bad for me. I was in bed for 14 months. But it wasn't all bad. I have to tell you. Like, I. Well, I try to find the good and everything, but I. No pun intended. I needed a break. I had been on the road for so many years, and here I was being weighted on hand and foot. I felt so loved by my friends. And I got a little money from the woman that had hit me.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Oh, well, that's always good. Yeah. Because that would suck if you find out they don't have insurance. And your SOL in bed, 14 months with bedsores.

[Wendy Liebman]

Right.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Hopefully you had cute nurses, though.

[Wendy Liebman]

Well, I have my husband, who now I say. I say I will do anything. Like, he was sick for one day recently and I got, oh, my God, I can't stand this.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Nothing gets done.

[Wendy Liebman]

And he did it for 14 months.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Wow. That. That means he really, really loves you a lot.

[Wendy Liebman]

He was an angel.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Oh. How long have you been married?

[Wendy Liebman]

22 years and together for three before that. So something like that. Yeah. I can't remember.

[Lynn Hoffman]

So you got to know each other too long.

[Wendy Liebman]

No, no.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Yeah, right. Is there a piece of. Actually, let me skip back to one before. Because you've been so generous with your time and we're kind of coming up on that and like my last couple of questions and although I don't want to let you go, other than comedy, are there other passions that you have or creative outlets that we should pay attention to or maybe that you could share that maybe nobody knows?

[Wendy Liebman]

No.

[Lynn Hoffman]

That answers that question. I love it.

[Wendy Liebman]

No, no, no.

[Lynn Hoffman]

She does nothing else but comedy. That's it.

[Wendy Liebman]

I.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Do you like to cook?

[Wendy Liebman]

Love playing the piano. Oh, see, so I'm not a good cook. I'm not a good cook, but I watch all the cooking shows and my husband's like, why do you even bother? I'm like, I don't know, I might learn something. I also watch all the true crime shows. Oh, I don't know how to cook, but I try to eat really healthy. Not every night, but I try to.

[Lynn Hoffman]

It's obvious. By the way, Wende, thank you. Seriously, you are what you eat and you look like you're ageless. Like, you look exactly the same as I remember seeing you 10, 15, 20 years ago. Wow. So that's a testament to good eating.

[Wendy Liebman]

Thank you. I love my dogs. They're in the background. I don't know if this is video or audio.

[Lynn Hoffman]

They're not moving, though. Is everything. Are they stuffed?

[Wendy Liebman]

Yes. I'm a taxidermist. No, they are. This is a picture, obviously. They are rescued from Korea. They are called jindos. And they were going to be eaten. Not joking. Not joking.

[Lynn Hoffman]

What?

[Wendy Liebman]

They were rescued from a meat market in South Korea. And they are. I love them so much, but they're high maintenance and as trainable as carrot. They are.

[Lynn Hoffman]

That's why I got a cat. Because they do what they want. You don't have to worry about it.

[Wendy Liebman]

I love cat. I actually got them cat treats by accident and they loved them, and now they ignore me like a cat.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Oh, see?

[Wendy Liebman]

Yeah.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Very smart, smart animals. They're beautiful and lovely that you.

[Wendy Liebman]

Thank you.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Rescued them from. From dinner cheapers.

[Wendy Liebman]

I know, right?

[Lynn Hoffman]

That's crazy to me. Is there one piece of wisdom that you wish that you'd learned earlier in.

[Wendy Liebman]

Your career just to try new material all the time and also just have fun? Like, I try to just have fun now in my career. Like, I had a show recently where I heard there were going to be agents in the audience, and I already have an agent, but I thought, ooh, maybe they would cast me in a movie or something.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Yeah.

[Wendy Liebman]

And then I thought, you know what? No. I am here to make this audience have a ball. Like, I heard Yo Yo Ma say that every time he stepped on stage, he thought of him as throwing a dinner party and that this. The audience were his guests. And that made a lot of sense to me. So, yeah, I just want the audience to feel good.

[Lynn Hoffman]

I wonder. I wonder if Yo Yo Ma was a. Was a waiter ever, because I don't know why that popped into my head, but I worked at a restaurant when I was young and. And every time I'd get a large party, like a table with lots of people, I couldn't even wait. Not that I wanted to be a comedian, but I just loved trying to get them to laugh, making sure that they had a good time, of course, so I'd get a good tip. But most of the. You know what I mean? So I couldn't even wait.

[Wendy Liebman]

Did you ever do stand up?

[Lynn Hoffman]

No. No. I love making people laugh. I loved. My favorites were Carol Burnett. I watched Goldie Hawn laughing. Like, all of it. Saturday Night Live.

[Wendy Liebman]

Me too. Huge.

[Lynn Hoffman]

But I never thought that I could ever do it because it was me alone. I never wanted to host my own show by myself. Wow. Careful what you wish for. But I always wanted to work with a comedy troupe. Like a team of people. Like, collaborative team, which unfortunately is very difficult to find and why most bands need therapy after touring for 50 years. So. Yeah. No, but I wanted to be a host that was funny. Like Tom Bergeron.

[Wendy Liebman]

Right. You know, he's from Boston.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Yeah. So. And he's been on Comedy Save. Me too. So, speaking of which, before I let you go, Wendy, we were talking about Paula Poundstone. And I've given you some time to think about it, although I haven't really, because I've been talking your ear off. What would you know? Because I'll play it for her if you want. So if you really want it to be opening for her, I will do that.

[Wendy Liebman]

No, no. Because she'll say, I don't have anybody open for me.

[Lynn Hoffman]

I am.

[Wendy Liebman]

Ask Paula how she started taking pictures of a chair at every venue. Ooh, she talks to the chair backstage.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Really?

[Wendy Liebman]

She takes a picture of a chair.

[Lynn Hoffman]

All right, this is cool. This is totally inside and.

[Wendy Liebman]

Oh, I do want to tell her something, though.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Okay.

[Wendy Liebman]

If that's okay.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Absolutely.

[Wendy Liebman]

I follow her social media, and in the background of her house or somewhere in her house, she has a picture of. I think it's Mary Poppins. And so I want to tell her about my connection to Mary Poppins. And I've met her like a dozen times now, but I don't think she knows who I am. But also, we're really good friends with Mickey Dolenz from the Monkees. And she and Mickey share a cat. Not really. It's just on social media.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Okay.

[Wendy Liebman]

So I want. I guess I want to vet myself by telling her that we're best friends with Nikki Jones. So not really a question.

[Lynn Hoffman]

So you have a mutual monkey between you.

[Wendy Liebman]

Exactly. It's not on our back.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Not on your back. Wendy Liebman, I could talk to you for hours. You're an amazing person. Thank you so much.

[Wendy Liebman]

Talking to you and comedy truly saved me from depression from just figuring out my life. I've learned so much from comedy. I once wrote a piece called what I learned from stand up comedy. Figure out your hair. You are unique, but you're also equal to everybody. Wear whatever you want and pray that nobody throws anything at your head. I mean, there are like 40 things on the list, but those are the ones that come to mind.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Oh, and eat healthy if you can.

[Wendy Liebman]

And eat healthy. Yes. Sustenance.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Wendy Liebman, thank you for being on Comedy saved me, and good luck with everything. And I do hope our paths cross again, because it was just.

[Wendy Liebman]

I hope so too. You're my sister from another mother.

[Lynn Hoffman]

I love it. Thank you so much. Have a great rest of you. Oh, is there anything you want to plug? Where can people find you? Website.

[Wendy Liebman]

Wendyleben.com.

[Lynn Hoffman]

That'S it.

[Wendy Liebman]

I'm on every social media platform except X.

[Lynn Hoffman]

Thank you.

[Wendy Liebman]

Thank you so much. Have a wonderful day.

[Lynn Hoffman]

You too.

[Josh Clark]

Hi there. This is Josh Clark from the stuff you should know podcast. If you've been thinking, man alive, I could go for some good true crime podcast episodes, then. Have we got good news for you. Stuff youf Should Know just released a playlist of 12 of our best true crime episodes of all time. There's a shootout in broad daylight, people using axes in really terrible ways, disappearances, legendary heists, the whole nine yards. So check out the Stuff youf Should Know True Crime Playlist on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

I'm Jonathan Goldstein and on the new season of Heavyweight.

[Lynn Hoffman]

And so I pointed the gun at him and said, this isn't a joke.

[Jonathan Goldstein]

A man who robbed a bank when he was 14 years old and a centenarian rediscovers a love lost 80 years ago.

[Lynn Hoffman]

How can 101-year-old woman fall in love again?

[Jonathan Goldstein]

Listen to heavyweight on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jay Shetty]

Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of the On Purpose podcast. Recently, I had a conversation with the one and only Madonna.

[Madonna (voice clip)]

When I was broke and I had no friends, nowhere to live. I was held up at gunpoint. I was robbed. All these horrendous things happened to me. I had such an unhappy childhood that whatever happened to me in New York.

[Wendy Liebman]

Is better than what my life was.

[Madonna (voice clip)]

So I'm not going back.

[Jay Shetty]

Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dr. J]

I love that you created this system that revolves around you, creating pockets of peace. World Mental Health Day is around the corner, and on my podcast, just heal with Dr. J, I dive into what it really means to care for your mind, body and spirit. From breaking generational patterns to building emotional.

[Wendy Liebman]

Capacity, I'm going to walk away feeling like, yes, I'm going to continue my healing journey.

[Dr. J]

Listen to just heal with Dr. J from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Tony (Trap Nerds) / Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology Podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about how to be a better you. When you think about emotion regulation, you're not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome. Avoidance is easier. Ignoring is easier. Denial is easier. Complex problem solving takes effort. Listen to the Psychology podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Wendy Liebman]

This is an iHeart podcast.