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Buzz Knight (3:28)

Taking a Walk Robert Randolph, welcome to the Taking a Walk podcast. It is an honor to have you on, sir.

Robert Randolph (3:35)

Thank you. Happy to be here.

Buzz Knight (3:38)

So congratulations on Preacher Kids, a Grammy winning album, which after a few attempts where you should have gotten the Grammy previously. But anyway you waited it out and congrats, you got it for Preacher Kids. How you feeling about that award?

Robert Randolph (3:55)

Oh man, I'm feeling so ecstatic. I'm still on cloud nine. It's been such a journey and you know, the musical journey in the life, you know, funny taking a walk on the musical journey in life. It's all, it's, it's just a, it's just exactly what it is. It's a, it's, it's a walk, you know, and you learn so much and you, you get to value all of the different things of life and all of the wonderful collaborations and so to final be able to be recognized as a Grammy winner for such a great album that we designed to like have all of the songs and all of the lyrics and everything sort of that you could just listen to it straight down, you know, and have it all flow together to win a Grammy for that was awesome.

Buzz Knight (4:45)

It's a beautiful album. I know it started as a jam session or jam sessions at Sunset Sound and then the songs certainly grew from there. Tell me about that process. How does a jam become a Grammy winning record?

Robert Randolph (5:00)

Record? Well, you know, we was, I was able to pick the great, great artists first and then a producer, Shooter Jennings, the son of whale and Jennings, who a lot of people would sort of kind of make him out to be like a country guy. But the shooter is very much like a hip sort of rock guy who loves Americana music, blues and, and in all of the different elements of it. So you know, we sought out to sort of get all of the different energy that comes about, like from when we like sound check in or, you know, from pre show sound checks or late night tour bus jams, whatever. You know, we would come in all these cool riffs and it was like sort of no pressure. And so we had sort of all these riffs and all these ideas that we decided to go into the studio, get everything plugged in, get all the cool tones right, amps and everything, and just turn those ideas into what we thought would someday be a could, could be a song. And, and all of the songs that you hear were literally started out as jams that we either sort of came up like, okay, let's try a chorus, let's try a verse session, let's try this. And then you kind of edit them all down and then either wrote the song or the lyrics, like right after or weeks after.

Buzz Knight (6:24)

So it's, it's a fair amount of, let's just say, planned experimentation. Is that a fair look at it?

Robert Randolph (6:31)

Yeah. And you know, honestly, I got it from the idea of I got a chance years ago to hang out with Eddie Kramer, the great engineer and a producer of Jimi Hendrix and you know, Led Zeppelin and you know, say no more, right. And he would tell me, he like, he has all these like photographs and photograph book and so he would tell me, he's like, man, he was like, you want to know where that song came from? That was like an hour long jam. And then, you know, that's how we got Spanish Castle Magic and all these different ideas. So I always sort of sought out to kind of go down that path one day, even though we, I've always done it, but to really have a producer sort of understand the process, you know, and so Shooter really understood the process and really believed in it. And that's how we were able to come out with all of this sort of energy with the songs with the messages and the choruses and, you know, and all of the such, you know, as well as collaborating with like a great artist, songwriter Judith Hill, and, and a few other great songwriters too in the band. So it was such a great journey.

Buzz Knight (7:45)

Margo Price, I want to add to

Robert Randolph (7:47)

that list, Margot Price, she put the, she put the hot sauce on the chicken wings at the very end, you know, and because we had that song, it's so funny because that song that Margo played on, which is called King Karma, literally that whole jam, part of it came from a sound check and we just had the voice memo. And so we decided to go into the studio and do It. And then we kind of came up with that sort of weird chorus, you know, And. And so my bass player, I wanted to get his great voice on it. And then we decided to kind of add this sort of people, like, man, who could add this sort of Pink Floyd kind of feel vibe to it. And it was so funny because the night before, we were at this BMI award show in la, right? And I just happened to be out there, too. And so we was at the BMI awards show where I wanted to collaborate with Margo Price. And so I was like, margo, like, wow, I forgot how much of a great, beautiful singer you are. And I'm such a wonderful artist and a good guitar player. And she's like, yeah. I was like, what are you doing tomorrow? She's like, oh, nothing. I was like, why don't you come by the studio and sing this song? I got an idea. And she was just like, all right, cool. So she came and just was like, all right, what do I do? It's like, we'll just read those lyrics. Let's try to figure it out. And she just did such a wonderful job. And that was like the. The hot sauce on the chicken wings.

Buzz Knight (9:24)

She's something, I'll tell you. I. I know toward the end of the great Bob Weir's life, she spent some time, certainly with. With Bob and became friendly with. With Bob. So she. She understands the concept of. Of jamming, for sure.

Robert Randolph (9:41)

Right? Yeah. Yeah.

Buzz Knight (9:42)

And I gotta ask you, is. Is the zone that you're in when you're in the middle of a great jam, is it reminiscent of the zone that an athlete feels at their peak performance?

Robert Randolph (9:57)

Oh, yeah, man. When you get into a zone in the crowd and honestly, whether you're in the studio, whether you're live, when you get into that certain zone, you kind of feel like Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, like you like, we got it, we got it, we're on fire. And it just happens, you know? And, you know, many times it's just a camaraderie of the band, the, you know, the sounds you're getting. It's just so magical, you know, you hear all these stories about magical moments AC DC in the studio and Queen and all these great bands in the studio. We don't know how we did it, but we came up, you know, and, like. So to be able to sort of witness that now and to be a part of that and to have it happen and then to be recognized by the Grammys and all of the fans and everybody else is such a great Treat.

Buzz Knight (10:50)

Want to play a little fast Five Question with you if we can. First concert you ever attended?

Robert Randolph (10:58)

First concert I ever attended was. It was. First concert ever attended was the Fugees. Okay, the Fugees.

Buzz Knight (11:13)

Sacred steel or straight up rock? What feeds your soul more?

Robert Randolph (11:17)

Ooh, Sacred steel, baby. Listen. Real like, listen. The church service for the psycho steel players is nothing better than that one

Buzz Knight (11:27)

guitarist who made you rethink everything.

Robert Randolph (11:31)

Stevie Ray Vaughan.

Buzz Knight (11:34)

Weirdest place you ever played a show.

Robert Randolph (11:38)

Oh, you know what? I can't think of the name of a club, but it was a club in Ohio that was. It was actually a strip club at night, Late at night. And these people had this idea of doing sit down ticketed shows while we were on the stage with the pole on it. And I'm sure. And we wasn't the only band. And I couldn't even tell you what the name of this club was, but it was somewhere. I want to say it was somewhere close to somewhere in Cincinnati or close to it.

Buzz Knight (12:15)

And lastly, you're holding. I'm sorry to interrupt the strip club story. Okay, you're holding this beautiful guitar right now, which I want to ask you about in a second, but first guitar you ever bought.

Robert Randolph (12:30)

First guitar I ever Bought was a six string 1940s Oahu lap steel. Had the attached cord on it when I was 15 and all the kids in the neighborhood teased me because this little lap seal guitar that they had never seen in all black neighborhood, right? They never seen. It's like, what is that guitar with a. With a tach cord to it.

Buzz Knight (12:56)

That's amazing. Now let's geek out on the guitar that you're holding.

Robert Randolph (12:59)

It's kind of funny because that, that six string guitar is actually like a rare guitar that I thought was like a joke. And I don't even have it anymore.

Buzz Knight (13:06)

Oh man.

Robert Randolph (13:07)

Really? Yeah. Oh yeah. So this guitar here is one of my great uncles handmade guitars. He was like a master carpenter. And he died in the early late 80s. And this was his guitar that one of my cousins gave to me to like they found it, you probably can't see it, but it has this wild custom case. So they gave it to me to sort of take it to the repair guy and have him like get it working because the neck was all warped and everything else. So I got it. Sounds great. It's a. It's some sort of. It's like a. It says Washburn on the headstock. But you know, the guy at the, at the repair shop said this is not a Washburn guitar. This is like, he must have just compiled us up with different pieces or something. So it's pretty interesting, right?

Buzz Knight (13:58)

It's beautiful. It really is. I mean, yeah, I can't wait to hear what it sounds like in your hands, which I'm sure it sounds pretty. Pretty darn amazing. So you learn, you know, pedal steel and the house of God church for people who may not have heard sacred steel, which we referred to. How do you describe that tradition and what it sounds like when it's really cooking with steam?

Robert Randolph (14:23)

Man, it sounds like heaven. The heavens have opened when you hear that sound in church. And it sounds kind of funny because as great as it is now, there was this time to where the older players. It's almost like God made these specific guys and Henry Nelson, Ted Beard, Calvin Cook, Lorenzo Harrison, Chuck Campbell. Like, these guys were like the original sounds that they played like nobody else. They all had their own styles and riffs, and they are sort of like my own Robert Johnson, Muddy Waters and all those people. They were the creators of all of these different sounds. And so there's. I got some old tapes of them, and when I've been sitting around watching for, like, the last year, really. And it's kind of every time you watch one, it's unbelievable. Just makes you kind of cry and have joy at the same time.

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Do you remember when Diana Ross double tapped little Kim's boobs at the VMAs or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people?

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I know what you're thinking, what the

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hell does George Bush got to do a little Kim? Well, you can find out on the

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Look Back at It podcast.

Robert Randolph (17:42)

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what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it.

Robert Randolph (17:50)

Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just cause of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all day, but yeah, yeah, but just so y' all know, I mean, at this point, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line.

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We also have eggs on the table

Robert Randolph (18:09)

right now, so thank you for fishing at centers. And yes, I don't think there's a

Buzz Knight (18:15)

more important year for black people.

Robert Randolph (18:17)

Really?

Buzz Knight (18:17)

Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history.

Robert Randolph (18:21)

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Buzz Knight (18:34)

We produce this other podcast, it's called Music Saved Me. And it's about the healing power of music from our perspective, of all different perspectives, from a musician perspective and from even from the, you know, the medical well being perspective. Do you believe that music does have healing power?

Robert Randolph (18:56)

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It has all the healing power, to be honest with you. I mean, scripturally, this is what David's job was in the Bible. That's what his anointing was in the Bible. And I've seen it happen. And it's kind of one of those things to where, I mean, I'm not being critical, but it's kind of like a lot of we've kind of gotten away from each person playing music creates to this sound. And it's not just a person playing music. So you would have the musicians who are in whatever style band it is, and then you had the people who would clap their hands and you had the people who had the tambourines. And then. And so all of that made for this one joyous the heavens open up sound that created that would let these. These pieces of music which were all like being composed on the spot, especially in church, it's like it's all being composed on the spot. And when you start seeing people through the spirit, like being released, crying, dancing, that's the healing that's happening. And when, when, whenever that segment is over, whenever the church service is over or just a concept, right? You'd see the smile on people's face. It's like, oh my God, you know, I mean, look, it was example Stevie Ray Vaughan's El Mukombo, right? Video. And it's funny because I just got a chance to ask Chris Layton about it and he was like, man, that was like supposed to be a day off. And we were in Canada and we was on our way to do some either coming from an award show or something. And he was like, that was supposed to be in a day off. And he's like, man, we didn't really know what was going on. And we just went and played as loud as we could. And you just see the crowd on that video, right? Everybody's being healed. Because still today, I think that's like the best live guitar performance, right? That from beginning to end, that's like out of this world.

Buzz Knight (21:05)

I remember seeing him a couple of times and when he would just start playing, it looked like his just his body was taken over by another spirit.

Robert Randolph (21:17)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Buzz Knight (21:19)

So when you first took the church sound outside the walls of the church, was there any tension that came with that, either from family or the congregation?

Robert Randolph (21:31)

Oh, yeah. It just. That was part of the. Well, my family is all in a church, but. And your family is always going to be your family, right? So they're kind of going to be like on a seesaw. But the church as a whole, I come that our church was a very strict church and they didn't like it at all. Which is why the old. The whole story of Sacred Steel is sort of hidden within the church for 80 years, you know, and because all of those guys that I told you about earlier, they were never allowed to leave the church and go play at. Not even at another church. They couldn't even go play anywhere, right? And so you had to play in this particular House of God church service where there was this, like. It was like a chitlin circuit up them, right? Over a hundred of them. So you were constantly performing, but you had to only perform in those church services in that organization. But. But since then, you know, everybody, you know, a lot of the older people have died, and a lot of those old sort of traditional ways have kind of have gone out. And so a lot of people have sort of been more receptive to whatever's happening, you know?

Buzz Knight (22:42)

Tell me what the experience was like. Working on Cowboy Carter with Beyonce.

Robert Randolph (22:48)

Oh, man, that was wonderful, man. Working with Beyonce. It was like. I got the call one day and I was like. I got home, I was sitting on my couch, and I got a call from. It was actually Beyonce's manager. And he was like, hey, you want to come to la? And I was like, yeah. He's like, you want to work with Beyonce? I was like, cool. I was like, what does that mean, right? And he's like, all right, man, sit tight. And little did I know, you know, they were like, tomorrow. And I'm in, like, New York, right? They, like, come to LA tomorrow. And I was like. So we were like this. I'm on the phone with my manager. He's like, oh, yeah, we working out the deal. And then like, yeah, Beyonce's gonna be there, and, you know, and all this kind of stuff, and you gotta sign an NDA because you can't talk about it and all this other stuff. And. And so I was like, all right. So now the next thing you know, it's like one o' clock in the morning. I was like, hey, I didn't get any information. Yeah. And they were like, sit tight. So I get a call, and like, 5aM I was like, hey, man, there's a car waiting outside for you to take you to the app. I was like, wow. All right. He's like, take your time. If you miss this one, they'll just put you on the next one. I was like, I don't even know what that means. So just pack up and I get there, fly to LA land, you know, whatever time, 10 o' clock in the morning, LA time. And I get there and like, we're getting there, and there's everybody. The producer, Raphael, Sadiq, and all the Beyonce and the people, and everybody's there. I was like, all right, let's work on it. And So I had no idea that it was actually a country record. It was just like play some stuff on these songs. Because it was sort of like all top secret at the time. And so, you know, I probably played on probably like seven different songs and just let them choose which ones, you know. But it was such a great process, you know.

Buzz Knight (24:34)

That's amazing. Speaking of other work, okay, you played with Clapton and Santana, Ozzy Osbourne, Dave Matthews. Is there a collaboration that surprised you the most for you? Like, man, I didn't see this coming, honestly.

Robert Randolph (24:53)

You know what? It was the Ozzy Osbourne one. And it was so wild because I remember when I did it, like. Cause I recorded that probably in 2007 or something, right? And I remember I just did it as Ozzy. But you know, he was there and you know, that's when the whole show was happening, right? The Osbournes, it was the hugest thing on TV and all of that was happening. And so I had totally forgot about it until during like the Pandemic, like somebody had like tweeted it out or something, you know, and I was like, I totally forgot about. Then I listened to it and it's like the most mind blowing. It's just so funny to listen to because it was like, right. It's like, you know, especially for a pedestal guy, like, you feel so happy, like you're playing on a track. Like,

Buzz Knight (25:46)

that's great.

Robert Randolph (25:47)

Yeah.

Buzz Knight (25:48)

Preach your Kids is a solo record that's stepping outside your work with the. The family band.

Robert Randolph (25:55)

What.

Buzz Knight (25:55)

What did going solo allow you to do that maybe in a band setting you couldn't do?

Robert Randolph (26:01)

You know, it's funny, I don't. It wasn't really about a solo thing. It was just more about different players added different elements. Like, for example. But the family band we always wanted, you know, we tried for years to find like the. This great, perfect dueling guitar player and the guitar player that we have on the Preacher Kids, Tash Neal, who he used to be in this band called the London Souls. And so he was always like one of the great young, sort of wacky, wild players that played blues, played soul, comes from the church and all that. But he was really like an alternative sort of rock guy. And so during the Pandemic, he was like, oh yeah, man, I'll come play with you. And so to be able to have him with the bass player and the drummer, we wanted to create this kind of big four piece sound, you know, pedal steel guitar and drums, so that we were just able to. I was just able to Explore a little more. And that. And that's how we came out with so many great melodies and dueling guitar moments on the Preacher Kids, which I think really added sort of this sort of feel of like Derek and the Dominoes in many instances. You know, like the song Gravity. It's like you get to the end of that and it's all like Derek and the Dominoes kind of thing, you

Buzz Knight (27:31)

know, I got chills just thinking about it. Oh, my God. So I know you're probably working on some other stuff. You're always working on things. What are you working on? And then how are you getting ready for more of the road? Because I know you love the road as well.

Robert Randolph (27:47)

Yeah, you know, we actually. I don't know the road as much as I used to because it's expensive to travel. No band does. And now it's touring has gotten so expensive. You come home with no money, you know, and very little money. And that's for all levels of all bands. However much money you thought you were making is way less and, you know, and that's just sort of the state that the music industry is in and. And everybody's trying to figure out where we going from here because venues are struggling bands. You know, a lot of. It's a lot of stuff happening. So I recorded. We finished this album up. It's like a sort of like a Highway Women kind of album. It's Me, G Love and Aloe Black. We did this. This more so like bluesy, soulful, bluesy record, you know, with a lot of air and space and great vocals and great songs. And so that's going to come out toward the end of the year also. So that one is going to be called the Mud Kings. So look out for the Mud Kings, Robert Randolph, G. Love and Aloe Black.

Buzz Knight (28:57)

That's fantastic. Do I see a Pac man game behind you?

Robert Randolph (29:01)

Yeah, yeah. Not. It's not that fancy. You can get it from Costco or something, but. Yeah.

Buzz Knight (29:06)

Well, it reminded me when you said the High women. I think Amanda Shires is a lady. Lady Pac man fan because I think she's got a couple machines in her barn.

Robert Randolph (29:17)

That's so funny. That sounds like she's such a great soul too, man. She's awesome.

Buzz Knight (29:22)

She's quite a creative, right?

Robert Randolph (29:25)

Yeah, yeah. She's such a character and such a great person. She's always smiling and happy. And I've got a chance to spend time with her during the and Family revival tour that we did this past year, actually. And so she's wonderful.

Buzz Knight (29:41)

Oh, Yeah, I love her. Had her on a couple. A couple of times on the podcast.

Robert Randolph (29:45)

Yeah. Beautiful.

Buzz Knight (29:47)

So, in closing, Robert Randolph, we call this show Taking a Walk. Is there a dream walk? Someone, if you could take a walk with, living or dead, that you'd like to take a walk with? It could be more than one person. And where would you take that walk?

Robert Randolph (30:02)

Oh, man, I think if I could take a walk, living or dead, with one person, that walk would be Jimi Hendrix, you know, just because, I mean, he's. He's one of those artists that he achieved so much in so little time and literally changed the whole scope of music, of guitar playing, of guitar creating imagery, right? And he would be the one person because you know, when. And it's kind of so funny because somebody just did like a Tick Tock post or something the other day, and it was like, like, it was like, yo, man, what the f. He's like, my label told me I gotta post more on Tick Tock. Can you imagine telling Jimi Hendrix that he's got a post, he's got to get his likes up on Tick Tock?

Buzz Knight (31:01)

Yeah, I know what he would say, right? We both know.

Robert Randolph (31:04)

Yeah, right? Yo, man, I mean, pretty. That sounds like a social drag, man. You know, I mean, you know, and so that sort of creative process, a lot of that sort of missing from, I guess what's called the mainstreams. But, you know, I. I tell people all the time, everybody's like, oh, man. She was like. And people used to say this to me younger. I would say this to people like, you know, Clapton and Buddy Guy and even the Grateful Dead guys like Phil Lesh and all those cats. And they'd be like, what is. What is mainstream? I have no idea what you're talking about. Right? It's because they didn't make music to be like, hey, maybe that's going to be on the radio one day. And it's like when you. When you really just fall into that mindset, honestly, which I think I did with Preacher Kids this time, it was like, let's just concentrate on what we're doing here and make this great. And once you do do that, right, you just fall into this comfort zone because you're not worried about too much of the radio. I mean, who knows what any of that is anyway, right? Spotify, streams, radio. There's no more MTV, right? No more VH1. And so it's just like you kind of. For the sort of healing part of music, artists now really get to feel comfortable just creating what they feel because Whatever your fans are, you're going to reach them now with social media and somebody here, and I like it, and they'll come support you and so forth. But. But yeah, Jimi Hendrix is the guy that I would love to like, take a long walk with, just like get into his whole creative brain of songwriting. Really. That's really the wildest. A lot of people, I'm saying he was a brilliant songwriter, you know, creator on the guitar and. And just a poet, you know, and a confident. Some people say, oh, he wasn't really confident, but, you know, confident on stage,

Buzz Knight (32:53)

you know, seemed pretty confident from everything I saw on films, you know.

Robert Randolph (32:58)

Yeah, a lot of people. A lot of people I know that knew him at the time said he was sort of, you know, at that time, he wasn't really that confident because, you know, he didn't see himself as a great singer. You know, don't forget he was like in Little Richard's band. He was in so many bands and he didn't even really know. They asked him what was he doing. He's like, I'm just playing the blues. I mean, you know, like, if he was like looking down now, if he would come reincarnated, he'd probably be like, if this was said to me by somebody that knew him, it was like, man, if he would be reincarnated, he'd be like, man, these people like my music all these years.

Buzz Knight (33:32)

That's right.

Robert Randolph (33:33)

Yeah, Right. I'm such an icon. Yeah. He's like, wow, how do I have. How am. I sold 30 million records since I've been dead.

Buzz Knight (33:42)

Right? Pretty unusual. Yeah.

Robert Randolph (33:44)

Yeah.

Buzz Knight (33:45)

But deserving. Oh, my God.

Robert Randolph (33:50)

You kids, once again, Grammy winning.

Buzz Knight (33:55)

Thank you for the joy of the music that you continue to give us. And it's an honor having you on taking a Walk, sir.

Robert Randolph (34:02)

Thank you very much. I really appreciate you. Thanks for being. And thanks for having me on Taking a walk. Glad we could take a walk.

Buzz Knight (34:11)

I'm Buzz Knight and thanks for listening to the Taking a Walk podcast. Now, please check out our companion podcasts produced by Buzz Night Media Productions with your host, Lynn Hoffman. Music Save Me. Showcasing the healing power of music and comedy. Save Me. Shining a light on how laughter is the best medicine. All shows are available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and are part of the I Heart Podcast network.

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Robert Randolph (34:53)

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Robert Randolph (35:03)

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Robert Randolph (35:08)

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Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced Games. Some call it grotesque, others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.

Robert Randolph (35:28)

Within probably 10 days, I'd put on £10. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.

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Dr. Maya Shankar (35:41)

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Robert Randolph (35:52)

I wish that I hadn't resisted for

Dr. Maya Shankar (35:54)

so long the need to change.

Robert Randolph (35:56)

We have to be willing to live with a kind of uncertainty that none of us likes.

Sam J. / Alex English (36:02)

You can have opinions, you can have like a strong stance, and then there's your body. Yeah, having its own program.

Dr. Maya Shankar (36:12)

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Sam J. / Alex English (36:19)

Your twenties can be so exciting, but they can also be really overwhelming, confusing, and honestly, just kind of lonely. May is mental health awareness month, and the psychology of your twenties is breaking down the science behind the biggest roadblocks we face.

Dr. Maya Shankar (36:35)

I was six years into my career, the 80 hour weeks and just the first one in, the last one out, and I ended up burning out. There was a large chunk of my twenties that I like, was just so wanting to, like, be out of that phase out of my skin. And I just, like, really regret not living in the present more.

Sam J. / Alex English (36:49)

You don't need to have everything figured out right now. You just need to understand yourself a little bit better. Listen to the psychology of your 20s on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.