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Buzz Knight
Taking a walk.
The stages are lit, the amps are warm. The crowds are gathering. Welcome to April on Taking a Walk. I'm Buzz Knight and welcome to our brand new theme for April Live and Legendary. With the concert season brewing, we want to go back to some of our favorite encore episodes of the Taking a Walk podcast. Because this is the time of year when music stops being something you stream. It becomes something you feel in your chest, it in your feet, in the air around you. Concert season is here, and there's no better way to kick it off than by revisiting one of the most electrifying conversations we've ever had on this show. Today's encore guest is a man who has spent decades doing what so few
musicians ever truly master.
He makes every single night on stage feel like it could be the greatest show you've ever seen. As a guitar icon, vocalist and songwriter, he's been the heart of the Allman Brothers Band, the driving force behind Government Mule, and a living embodiment of everything that makes live music sacred. This is Warren Haynes, and if you've ever seen him perform, you already know the man was built for the stage. So as the tours fire up and the festivals fill their lineups, sit back and listen to one of the legends who reminds us exactly why we go to shows.
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Warren Haynes
Then she says, have you seen a photo of my son? And I'm like, who is this person?
Boys and Girls Podcast Host
Welcome to the Boys and Girls Podcast. Arranged marriage is basically a reality show and you're auditioning for your soulmate. And who's judging? Only your entire family. I sacrificed myself to this ancient tradition, hoping to find love the right way, and instead I found chaos, comedy, and a lot of cringe. Listen to Boys and Girls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Lala Kent
Hello, gorgeous. It's Lala Kent, host of Untraditionally Lala. My days of filling up cups at Sur may be over. But I'm still loving life in the valley. Life on the other side of the hill is giving grown up vibes.
Warren Haynes
But.
Lala Kent
But over here on my podcast Untraditionally Lala. I'm still that Lala. You either love or love to hate. It's unruly, it's unafraid, it's untraditionally Lala. Listen to Untraditionally lala on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Warren Haynes
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Warren Haynes
What's fact, what's fake and sometimes what
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Warren Haynes
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Buzz Knight
Taking a Walk Warren Haynes, welcome to the Taking a Walk podcast.
Warren Haynes
Good to be back.
Buzz Knight
So we throw this little opening question out there, Warren. It's one that sometimes mystifies people and the answers go all over the place. So I'm not going to let you get away with, with not trying to answer this one. Mr. Warren Haynes, if you could take a walk with someone, living or dead, who would you take a walk with? And where might you take that walk with them, sir?
Warren Haynes
Wow, that sure is a tough way. Would probably change every day for like 17 days in a row if you asked me that question. That's, that's a great question. I mean, Jimi Hendrix, I don't know. I guess that as as good of an answer as any. I have a, a long list of people that would Qualify for that wish list. Where would that be? Maybe Central park in New York.
Buzz Knight
It's all good. Those are all perfect answers. This is the thing. There's no right or wrong to the question. And to your point, it. It can change by the day for sure, you know?
Warren Haynes
Yeah. You know, because people ask me a lot about favorite albums, favorite artists, and if the lists are so long that, you know, depends on what mood I'm in, what creeps up to the top of the list on any given day.
Buzz Knight
I get it. I get it. We had this. This chap on the podcast previously named Devin Allman, and had a wonderful chat with him. And it's funny, I was just remembering the interview, and I wanted to. I wanted to validate it, and we can talk about AI separately, but I went to this thing called Claude AI, and I said during the Devin Allman Taking a Walk episode, tell me what was discussed about Warren Haynes. And it came back like a flood of great energy. Not a. Not a flood is the wrong word. It said, yes. Devin Allman brought up Warren Haynes multiple times on the Taking a Walk podcast. He discussed sitting in with the Allman Brothers and described having to stand between Warren Haynes and Derek Trucks or Warren Haynes and Dickie Betts while playing songs like One Way out, calling them the Jedi Masters of Guitar. And I even think he texted you in the midst of the interview, asked you a question, but how. How does it make you feel being referred to as one of the Jedi Masters of Guitar by Devin?
Warren Haynes
Well, that's quite a compliment. You know, when I joined the Alma Brothers in 1989, it brought on such a. An overwhelming amount of recognition and acceptance and. And respect and reverence because, you know, I was a huge Allman Brothers fan my entire life, and I assumed that other people were as well. But I came to realize the amount of respect that comes with being in that band, not just by listeners, but fellow musicians. You know, every. Every door imaginable open for me at that point, and every musician that I would meet, that I had grown up listening to and. And admiring would instantly put me on a level of. Of respect, you know, and. And that's. In some ways, I guess I wasn't expecting that or prepared for that, but the Allman Brothers music touched so many people. But among musicians, you know, the. The amount of respect that fellow musicians have for that music is pretty uncanny.
Buzz Knight
I remember that period, that early period when you. When you joined and in fact, was fortunate enough. I live outside of Boston, so I was fortunate enough when you came through for One of those amazing. It was called Great Woods. Yeah, back then. And so I saw those early days, and I saw the band's performance, and I saw your work. How did you make that integration into the band appear so easy?
Warren Haynes
Well, I think it had a lot to do with the fact that I was in Dickey Bets's band for two or three years prior, and he. He and I had spent all that time kind of honing in our thing, and we had really learned how to. To play together in a great way. And it also forced me to kind of up my game in a lot of different ways regarding my tone, my style, my note selection, how to come across on a bigger stage. And playing next to him night after night after night was intimidating. But it was also the best lesson possible for me to be prepared for joining a band like the Allman Brothers. So by the time 89 rolled around and I found myself in the Allman Brothers, I had had that initiation and learning period. There was still a lot of learning to be done, but I felt more relaxed and ahead of the curve a little bit, you know, and the fact that they allowed me from day one to interject my own personality, you know, they were very good about saying, hey, we chose you to play like you. You know, we don't expect you to play more or less like Dwayne Allman than you choose to play it at any moment. You're here to be yourself. And that was very important because, you know, I was very influenced by Dwayne Albin, but I also didn't want to be copying what he had done. And that's not what they wanted either. They wanted somebody that had reverence for that. That music, but that would bring their own personality. And I think in hindsight, that music demands that.
Buzz Knight
You did a beautiful job of it. I really admire the way you made that all work and incredible fan. So after nearly a decade away from solo albums, what made this the right moment for you to return with Million Voices Whisper? What changed your life or perspective that sparked this particular collection?
Warren Haynes
Well, I think it was mostly the COVID lockdown, and not just because of the emotional impact that it had on everyone, but because it forced songwriters to go into hibernation and write more music than any of us had written in decades. You know, and for speaking for people that have been writing songs for a long time, I wrote more music during that time period than I've written since I was probably 30 years old or something. And it wound up turning into two Government Mule records. But then I also had all these songs that I had written that didn't seem like Government Mule songs, which inspired me to keep writing in that direction and record Million Voices Whisper. You know, I only do a solo record when it seems like I've written enough songs that work together that kind of want to be part of a. A collection of. Of songs. But they don't necessarily sound like Government Mule songs. They're going back to when the Alma Brothers were recording that don't sound like Alma Brothers songs. You know, some of these songs obviously could be interpreted that way, but they all have their own kind of vibe and personality and, and fit together. So I really attribute it mostly to that. And, and I'm. I'm glad that I was able to find the. The positive in such a dark time period.
Buzz Knight
And as someone who has just been, you know, the epitome of a live performer and you and others like you, that must have been just like chopping your arm off.
Warren Haynes
Yeah. And to know that we couldn't travel, we couldn't tour, we couldn't perform on stage and wondering in the back of all of our minds when and if that's going to change. You know, we all thought, is this the new normal, the new music business where people aren't going to be willing to be in live crowds like that? And that, that was a scary factor because that's what we do. So as soon as we were able to be around each other, we were all vaccinated and willing to go into the studio. We just decided, well, the path forward for us was to go make a couple of records back to back and kind of feel normal again.
Buzz Knight
Want to talk about the special
Real,
Real Love, including lyrics, you know, initially started by Greg Allman and brought you back into the studio with Derek Trucks for the first time since the Allman Brother Band had the final sunset. Take us inside the session and what it meant for you to complete Greg's words.
Warren Haynes
Well, let's go back to. I got an email from Bert Holman, who's the Allwell Brothers manager.
Buzz Knight
Love Bert.
Warren Haynes
And he had photocopied the handwritten lyrics that Greg had written for that song and sent it to me and said, hey, do you remember this song? And I remembered Greg showing it to me, but we never worked on it and he never completed. Just got put on the back burner. But it all started coming back to me when I. When I saw the. The lyric and it was incomplete and there was no music, as far as anyone knows. So I instantly started writing music for it. And then I started Tweaking the, the lyric and, and, and, and wrote some additional lyrics to it. And it all came about really quickly. So I called Derek and told him about it and I said, I really think we should record this song together. And of course he was very into that idea. And then the, the talk turned to, well, why don't we get together and write some other songs and maybe think about recording half of an album or something, you know, because in my mind I was inspired to, to make another solo record. So I talked to him about maybe co producing some stuff with me. Initially it was going to be at his studio in Florida, but his studio was under construction and wasn't going to be ready in the time frame that we needed. So we decided to just bring him up to Connecticut where we were recording the other stuff. And it was, it was great to have him in the studio for those three days. And we spent three days at his farm in Georgia riding and then three days in the studio recording and a lot of magical stuff happened. Real, real love. You know, it sounds a little trite or cliche or cheesy to say, but Greg's presence was felt through that entire process, you know, and the fact that Derek and I are in the same room with sing, I'm singing and he's trading answers with me on the sly guitar and we're recording live as it should be. It just all came together in a really wonderful way and, and that kind of inspired us to want to do a lot more stuff together.
Buzz Knight
I love it. And I was going to ask you, did you feel the presence of Greg? So you answered the, the follow up question because I would imagine that that would be possible.
Warren Haynes
Yeah, no, no question about that. And I, I wanted to, for the first time ever, to honor someone else's style to that extent. You know, down to the, the chord changes and the melody and the way I approached the vocal, harmonizing with myself in the intro, similar to what he did on some of the songs on Laid Back. I just, it gave me the, the perfect reason to go a little further down that path than I normally would as far as utilizing someone else's influence.
Buzz Knight
That's fantastic. Then there's this little band called Government Mule which is celebrating 33, 30 years since that self titled debut. What is the secret to that band's longevity?
Warren Haynes
Good question. I think probably the fact that we all know that we have a unique chemistry in the way we play together and we all still get along, which is pretty uncanny for a band that's been going as long as we have. And I think part of it is also that since we didn't start out as a real band, we started out as a side project to the Allman Brothers, thinking that we were going to make one record, do a short tour, then get back to life as normal. It kind of caught fire and took off on its own. And so we were faced with the challenge of making decisions about our future one step at a time. You know, whatever felt good at that moment, that's what we did. And we were never trying to second guess what we thought people expected from us or what the music business expected from us. We just were making decisions based on what seemed like the most fun and knowing that, you know, this might be our last record. We didn't know we were going to make a second record or a third record or a fifth record or now we have 13 studio records. We're about to play our 2500th show in a few days. And that's just something I never would have ever guessed, you know, Congratulations.
Buzz Knight
My God. I want to talk about community. And in particular, after the terrible Hurricane Helene, the. The Christmas jam, which was an amazing act of generosity and bringing community together and Soul Shine in particular, I mean, the, you know, at the Garden with Dave Matthews and so many others. What did that teach you, maybe that you already didn't know about the power of community and how music is so important?
Warren Haynes
Well, it brought into focus and solidified my belief that musicians love to give back because. Not solely because, but partially because we all appreciate and are extremely grateful to be able to do what we love for a living. And so something as easy as playing music on a night off to raise money for charity is so much easier than people might expect because that's what we do. We musicians love to play music, whether it's work or behind the scenes or whatever the case. And it reminds us all of why we started playing music in the first place. It was for the joy of doing it. And so if you can turn that into helping others in your community, it's just not only a win win, but it's an easy thing to do. And that's why I encourage people to get involved in charity work. Not if it's a hassle, but find a way of doing it that works with your life and that makes you feel better. That soulshine experience at Madison Square Garden was fantastic. And we knew that the music was going to be special because people coming together to help other people always is.
Buzz Knight
There was another special Madison Square Garden moment, little moment 2025. The brothers showing up at that amazing venue. What did that moment mean to you?
Warren Haynes
Well, you know, Jamo was the catalyst for that, bringing us all back together. He called everybody and said, we need to play. And everybody agreed, and everybody was instantly on board. And we knew in 2020, when we did the One show right before COVID it was an extremely special thing. Emotional but cathartic and inspiring. And that group of musicians playing that music is just special. Doesn't do it justice. You know, we all felt it even more than any of us expected right from the beginning of the rehearsals. And this time around, doing two nights seemed even a step beyond where we were in 2020. It just felt so natural and so beautiful and so much the right thing to do for ourselves, for the audience. You know, it was just two nights of music that I'll cherish forever.
Buzz Knight
So you've been a Gibson man your. Your whole career, and in 2025, you finally got your signature Les Paul. What. What took so long?
Warren Haynes
Well, it's a bit confusing because I.
Buzz Knight
We.
Warren Haynes
Gibson worked with me in the past on a signature Les Paul and on a signature ES335, but they were limited edition, and this is the first time we're making them readily available, which means a lot because I think it's wonderful that a young guitar player or a not so young guitar player can take my suggestion that I think you might enjoy playing this guitar. It's beautiful. It sounds great, it plays great. It's. It's comfortable in my hands. And if someone uses that as a reason to try it out and, and really loves it, then. Then that's. That's an amazing thing. And yeah, you're right. I've been a Gibson guy my entire life. My first decent guitar was a Gibson, and almost every guitar I've played since then.
Buzz Knight
So you've worked with everybody from, from Dave Matthews to the Dolly Parton to Chris Stapleton to the Grateful Dead family. What do you personally look for when you consider the art of collaboration?
Warren Haynes
Well, it has to be something that I enjoy. I'm lucky enough at this point in my career and have been for quite some time to be busy enough to where I only do something if it's appealing to me. You know, in the old days when I was doing studio work, when I first started out, you take every session that comes along the way, regardless of how you feel about it musically or emotionally. But I was fortunate enough to make the decision that that's not what I want to do. I want to play my music and, and pursue what I love and I've been fortunately successful with that. And so now if, if a situation comes around that is really appealing to me, I'll make time to do it. But otherwise my schedule is pretty packed. So whenever I do something, it has my stamp of approval.
Buzz Knight
So in closing, the subtitle for A Million Voices Whisper could be questioning certainly how to make things better in, in love and in life, in the, in the world. At this stage of your great career in life, what are the biggest questions that you're wrestling with and can you share with how music has sort of helped you find some of those answers?
Warren Haynes
Well, speaking for myself, you know, how to be a better person, a better father, a better friend, a better husband, a better artist and musician and singer and songwriter. You know, I think those of us who choose to do what we love are. It's a blessing, you know, but we also put a lot of pressure on ourselves, you know, and so, and that's a, that's a good thing. In healthy doses, it's definitely a good thing. But I also feel like people have to come together at this point to make the world a better place. It's not going to happen if we're waiting on politicians to change it. It's going to be up to the people to demand that we make the world a better place and a more loving and caring place and leave the planet in good shape for children and grandchildren and great grandchildren. You know, I know that answer went all over the map, but I kind of feel like that's where my head is these days.
Buzz Knight
I am so grateful for this opportunity to sync back up with you and talk to you. Such a fan and so grateful for all you continue to give us. Warren Haynes. And thank you for being on the Taking a Walk podcast and thank you for everything.
Warren Haynes
My pleasure. Good to see you.
Buzz Knight
I'm Buzz Knight. And thanks for listening to the Taking a Walk podcast. Now please check out our companion podcasts produced by Buzz Night Media Productions with your host, Lynn Hoffman. Music Saved Me. Showcasing the healing power of music and comedy saved Me. Shining a light on how laughter is the best medicine. All shows are available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and are part of the I Heart Podcast Network.
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Warren Haynes
Then she says, have you seen a photo of my son? And I'm like, who is this person?
Boys and Girls Podcast Host
Welcome to the Boys and Girls Podcast. Arranged marriage is basically a reality show and you're auditioning for your soulmate. And who's judging? Only your entire family. I sacrificed myself to this ancient tradition hoping to find love the right way, and instead I found chaos, comedy and a lot of cringe. Listen to boys and Girls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
Lala Kent
Hello gorgeous. It's Lala Kent, host of Untraditionally Lala. My days of filling up cups at Sur may be over, but I'm still loving life in the Valley. Life on the other side of the hill is giving grown up vibes, but over here on my podcast, Untraditionally Lala, I'm still that Lala. You either love or love to hate. It's unruly, it's unafraid, it's Untraditionally Lala. Listen to Untraditionally lala on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Bob Pittman
Hi, I'm Bob Pittman, chairman and CEO of iHeartMedia, and I'm kicking off a brand new season of my podcast Math and Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing. Math and Magic takes you behind the scenes of the biggest businesses and industries while sharing insights from the smartest minds in marketing. Coming up this season on Math and Magic, CEO of Liquid Death, Mike Cesario.
Math and Magic Podcast Host
People think that creative ideas are like these light bulb moments that happen when you're in the shower where it's really like a stone sculpture you're constantly just chipping away and refining.
Bob Pittman
Take two Interactive CEO Straus Salnick and our own Chief Business Officer Lisa Coffey. Listen to Math and Magic on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Lala Kent
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Episode: Live and Legendary: Warren Haynes – Gov’t Mule, Allman Brothers & Iconic Live Music History–Encore
Release Date: April 1, 2026
Guest: Warren Haynes
In this special “Live and Legendary” encore, Buzz Knight welcomes celebrated musician Warren Haynes for an in-depth conversation exploring his legendary career, the soul of live performance, his history with the Allman Brothers and Gov’t Mule, and how inspiration, community, and collaboration have shaped his artistry. Haynes shares personal insights into his creative process, discusses the significance of his new solo work, and reflects on the enduring power of music to bring people together and heal.
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On joining the Allman Brothers:
“Every door imaginable opened for me at that point, and every musician that I would meet, that I had grown up listening to... would instantly put me on a level of respect.”
(07:49 – Warren Haynes)
On solo writing during COVID:
“I wrote more music during that time period than I’ve written since I was probably 30 years old.”
(11:46 – Warren Haynes)
On finishing Gregg Allman’s song:
“Gregg’s presence was felt through that entire process... just one of those really wonderful things.”
(16:45 – Warren Haynes)
On charity concerts:
“It reminds us all of why we started playing music in the first place—it was for the joy of doing it. If you can turn that into helping others in your community, it’s not only a win-win, but it’s an easy thing to do.”
(21:06 – Warren Haynes)
On choosing collaborations:
“Now if a situation comes around that is really appealing to me, I’ll make time to do it. But otherwise, my schedule is pretty packed. So whenever I do something, it has my stamp of approval.”
(25:32 – Warren Haynes)
On life’s biggest questions:
“I also feel like people have to come together at this point to make the world a better place... it’s going to be up to the people to demand that we make the world a better place and a more loving and caring place.”
(26:58 – Warren Haynes)
Warren Haynes’ episode is a heartfelt journey through decades of American music history, spotlighting the power of live performance, the roots of inspiration, and music’s magic in connecting souls. Through thoughtful stories and candid insights, Haynes reminds listeners of music’s profound communal force—and the creative evolution that defines true artists.
Whether you’re a Gov’t Mule devotee, an Allman Brothers acolyte, or a seeker of stories behind the music, this is an episode to savor, full of wisdom, humor, gratitude, and the unshakable belief that, in the end, music helps us become our best selves, together.