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Taking a Walk I'm Buzz Knight and this is the Taking a Walk podcast. And here we are, number one on the taking a walk top five of 2025. This conversation originally aired back in late July, and it's no surprise it's landing at the top of our countdown. When Lyle Lovett talks with you, you know you're in for something special. And that's exactly what happened. Lyle brought his characteristic witness, intelligence and deep understanding of American music to this conversation. He brings that amazing heart and soul as well. We talked about everything from his roots in Texas to the craft of songwriting, from his respect for the tradition of how he's carved out his own unique path in this business. And as always with Lyle, the conversation was as thoughtful and genuine and as kind as as the man himself. If you missed this one last time around, or if you just want to revisit it, this episode certainly resonated with so many of you. This is your moment. Let's check out the Taking a Walk episode with Lyle Lovett, number one of 2025. Coming up next on Taking a Walk.
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Buzz Knight
Taking a walk Hi Lyle.
Lyle Lovett
Hey Buzz. Buzz, how are you?
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I'm very well, Lyle. How are you?
Lyle Lovett
Fine, thanks. You're very kind to have me on.
Buzz Knight
It's a pleasure having you on. Taking a walk. We're going to talk about the large band and the acoustic group. You got so many live shows to talk about but.
Lyle Lovett
But I'm a little disappointed that we're not actually taking a walk.
Buzz Knight
Let's go take a walk.
Lyle Lovett
Have you ever done one of these where you. Where you do it? Where you do you do you see Kevin Nealon's podcast is Hiking with Kevin. We should do this. We should actually do you walk?
Buzz Knight
Yes, I would love that. I've done it a few times. I was out at your McCalkin's Fur Piece Ranch and we got to take a walk over there and I was out at Peter Himmelman's place in upstate New York. So whenever possible I like an in person walk. Lyle and I would be honored one time to do it wherever it worked for you.
Lyle Lovett
That'd be fun. Yarmouth. What a. What a great character he is and man, just so good. I opened for him years ago. There was a. There's a great club in Houston called Rockefellers and it was in the. It was in the old Heights State Heights was a neighborhood in Houston Heights State bank and the Kreiners turned it into a 300 seat listening room and they used to have national touring acts and I was back in the. In the early 80s I was a one of the local opening acts that they would call regularly And. And I got to open for. Gosh, you know, plethora of different types of performers, and. And it was always fun. But one. One time I got to open for. For. For Yarma, and I hadn't seen a picture of Yarma. I didn't know Yarma. And there was very little backstage area. There's just sort of one green room that led onto the stage. And I remember getting there early because I was opening act, and I saw a guy in blue jeans and a black T shirt carrying a guitar and an amp coming into the building. And I said, are you with Yarma? And. And because he looked like a crew person, you know, I said, are you with Yarma? And he looked. He kind of looked around. He looked both ways. And, you know, sort of to make sure. As if to make sure, you know, and he said, I am Yarma. And he was really nice.
Buzz Knight
I love it.
Lyle Lovett
I love it.
Buzz Knight
Well, other than you and I taking.
Lyle Lovett
A walk, which would be a dream.
Buzz Knight
Come true, is there anybody else that you would love to take a walk with, living or dead, that would. An experience to cherish?
Lyle Lovett
Oh, gosh, you know, I get to take a walk, you know, figuratively and literally sometimes with people like that. All the time, you know, People, people. It's all about the people, isn't it? People are fascinating, and everyone has a story. Everyone, you know, everyone's life unfolds in an individual way. And I just find it really interesting to talk to people, and especially as I get older and I talk to people who are my age, to hear their interpretation of events and how events of the world and events of their lives affect them, and then to ask people, so what does that mean to them? How does all that, you know, how does all of that that's happened to someone make them feel about life in general? And the, you know, things that people talk about, the things that are important to people, always come back to the same basic things, you know, love and family. And I mean, those. Those are. Seem to be the most important things to people. And, you know, I find people wonderfully consistent and then wonderfully, subtly different from one another. And there's just. I think talking to anyone is an education, I think. I think every. Any. Anybody. Anybody in this world that you happen to talk to can be that one person that gives you an insight that you'd never had before.
Buzz Knight
And the consistency is a really important thing that you mentioned. And I find another piece of this I want to see if you agree with. You also find where passion plays in to what either the Every person is thinking about, or an author, an artist, musician, their passion for their. Their work and their art. And then additionally, the incredible resilience that they have through ups and downs, the way the world goes. Would you agree with that, Lyle?
Lyle Lovett
Well, you know, I don't know whether it's resilience or, you know, this mindset that says, no, I have to do this. This is what I have to do. It's almost. Almost an inability to do anything else. And when you see that quality in someone, When I see that quality in someone, I am always inspired. I'm inspired by their feeling compelled to do what they do. You know, I think it's as much about that as it is about a determination in terms of navigating whatever obstacles the world throws in your way. I think it's, you know, it's almost, you know, rather than. Rather than being a bulldozer going down the street, knocking obstacles out of the way. The artists that seem to be successful and well adjusted are more like a stream of water that simply flows its way around obstacles and to get to the end. So it's. I mean, there are different approaches, certainly, but, you know, the kind of person that I would rather be myself, it would be more that stream of water that flows through and makes it to the end more effortlessly. Just thinking about water, I mean, brings to mind, you know, the flooding that we've had down in Texas and how devastating that is. So that can, you know, a stream of water is one thing, but. But a flood like that, man, I'm sorry, I'm just getting off track. But that, you know, there is a quality of, you know, persistence that I think any artist of any type has to have. You know, you don't really have to work at the persistence because what you're doing is important enough to you to just never stop. It's not a matter of saying, I have to be persistent. It's more a matter of, you know, I don't know what's going to happen, but I can't stop doing this.
Buzz Knight
I do want to touch on the conditions that you and friends and family are keenly aware of in Texas these days. You know, the horrible story that we see and, and. And visualize and know about is so terrible and, and so just, you know, frightening. What can you tell us about the condition of things now?
Lyle Lovett
Well, you know, people are.
Buzz Knight
Are.
Lyle Lovett
You know, try trying to. It was just a. A memorial service on Monday in our neighborhood that was, you know, it was so. So many people were there. It was so supported. My wife April was able to go, I was, we were playing in Grand Rapids, Michigan, but for, for an eight year old girl who was swept away in her cabin and she was the granddaughter of neighbors of ours and who we're close with and you know, feeling that and having eight year old children ourselves, you know, you, you feel the impact of that especially. And, and, and, and you know, all I can, all I can think is how her father, her father spoke beautifully at the service, April said, and, and you know, how he could even speak at all is, is beyond my imagination. And, and you know, you, you, you, I can't help but think about how, you know, how those families will never be the same and think also, you know, how I have no idea how I would respond in that kind of situation. I have no idea what that would do to me. So it's really thinking about the tragedy and the community in general has been devastated and it's wonderful to see the support that the community is rallying to help these folks. My friend Robert Keene is doing a fundraiser with some really Wonderful Artists on 28 August. I'm part of, I've been invited to be part of four different fundraisers earlier in August. George Strait has already done a fundraiser. You know, people start, musicians and performers started wanting to help immediately. And I haven't spoken to a single performer who hasn't just said, sure, count me in. Most performers are in a better position to, to donate their time and their performances to try to get people out, people out who can actually financially support the organizations who are trying to help and they can financially support themselves. But I don't know of a single musician or performer who hasn't said, yeah, just sign me up, whatever I can do. And it's a wonderful thing to see. But none of that, none of that. And none of that wonderful humanity that comes from a tragedy makes up for the loss that actually happened. And I think all we can do as people in the world is be sensitive to the people who have lost people or lost their homes, lost everything they had. All we can do is be sensitive to them and be sympathetic to them and to help them however we can. But nothing we can do would ever come close to making up for their loss in the first place.
Buzz Knight
We'll be right back with more of.
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Lyle Lovett
You're really not gonna call that?
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Buzz Knight
Welcome.
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Back to the Taking a Walk podcast.
Buzz Knight
L What have horses and your love of the countryside taught you about patience and art and life?
Lyle Lovett
I've learned so much from horses, animals in general. I grew up on my grandfather's farm. My grandfather had retired by the time I came along, but his sons ran a dairy farm on the place and also grew vegetables. And there was always something to do, there was always work to be done. And even as a little boy, I and my cousins were offered, you know, offered jobs to go and pick vegetables or help in the dairy barn, you know, just to do anything. And I appreciate that. My uncles, my extended family, who all lived there on part of the farm place, my mom was one of seven children and my grandparents offered each one of their children, you know, an acre or two to build homes on so that everyone would be close and that, so that's the sort of family environment I grew up in. I was an only child, but I was, you know, 300 yards from my grandparents and my aunts and uncles and a dozen first cousins. And so I always felt as if I was from a big family, but there was always plenty to do and Patience, one of the great horse that I had the privilege of working with, but not, you know, not until I was in my gosh, in my, my 40s. But, but a retired world champion bronc rider named Bill Smith, and he just passed away on the 1st of June this year. Cody. Bill Smith is, he was from Cody, Wyoming, and he got interested in horsemanship after he retired from rodeo and started attending Ray Hunt clinics. And you know, just, just the wisdom, the wisdom he had in working with horses is so applicable to humanity as well. But, but he used to say, you asked me about what I, what, you know, what did I learn about patience and what I learned about patience. And when Bill Smith always put it so succinct, succinctly, he, he said, you know, people say that you need to have patience in working with Horses, he said. But, you know, he said you only have to have patience when nothing's happening. He said, with horses, there's always something happening. You just have to notice it. And. And that I thought was so wise, because in this world in general, I mean, you really don't have to have patience because there's always something happening. You just have to see what it is. You just have to notice what's happening. And if you pay attention to everything that's happening, you know, you don't have time to be patient because there's always something to do. That's. That's what I learned from in the farm life. I mean, there is always something to do. There's always something you can do better. And, you know, in general, when you're. When you're working with. With animals or you're working with, you know, crops, if you do the right thing, you'll get the result you're looking for. If you do the right thing, the right thing will happen. I think that's the. That's. That's the biggest lesson that I learned growing up on the farm. Do things the right way. I appreciate the process of what I do more than I value the end result. I mean, I hope my goal is to make a living for me and my family, but it is also to work with people whose company I enjoy every day, who I respect as people who I look up to, and I am fortunate and blessed to work with people I feel that way about on stage and off. Members of the band are people that I admire and look up to greatly, but also members of our production crew, who we count on every day, are people that I admire and look up to. How they, you know, the family people they are, how they. How they negotiate the difficulties as I do, you know, having to be gone from home more than we'd like to be, and how we, you know, how we have, you know, we respect our jobs and what we're doing, and they're people that I greatly admire and how, you know, how important it is every day to make sure we're doing things the right way for the people who are showing up at night for the show, you know, we depend on and, you know, are grateful for those people that come to support us because that ultimately, that's. That's our only measure of whether or not we get to keep our jobs. Those people that, that show up at.
Buzz Knight
Night, when you think of the way their lives are through personal challenges in their life and the way the world is today, tell me how it makes you Feel when, you know, this community has come together to come to a show at night to see either the acoustic side of you or the large band side. What does it mean seeing that community every night out at, when you're on stage?
Lyle Lovett
Well, you know, feeling the support of, of people that, you know, pay money to come to come here. What you do, see, what you do is a tremendous feeling. I mean, it's the permission to keep going and. No, it's a wonderful feeling. You know, in my early days of performing, I started playing out when I was 18 years old in 1976. And I played anywhere that someone, you know, would let me any, any restaurant, hamburger joint, pizza joint that wanted live music as a part of their atmosphere. I would gladly play anywhere and, and had my own little PA that I could set up and, and I was happy to be, to be playing anywhere and you know, for any kind of, any kind of money. I mean, I, I played for two years. I played two or three or four nights a week at a Mr. Gaddy's Pizza in College Station, Texas. When I was in school there, live music was part of the atmosphere, but live music was not the point. You know, people didn't come there just to hear me. I mean, a few people may have in the old days, but mainly people came there to have pizza. I mean, you know, eventually you developed a little bit of a local audience. But I played another place for, for a two year period. It was a hamburger joint. It was my very favorite hamburger joint in College Station, owned by a fellow named Cersei Bond. It was called Dead Solid perfect. He put 2/3 of a pound of meat on every hamburger and they were delicious. But, and he had, the only music he ever featured was me on Sunday nights from 6 to 8. And he paid me actually in hamburgers. So I got eight, eight hamburgers, you know, for every gig that I played there. So I, you know, I had a hard time eating that many myself. So I was, I had, I had a, you know, a tab built up of hamburgers available to me. And so I could, you know, take my buddies to lunch. I could go there kind of whenever I wanted and treat my friends, which was, you know, which was a great feeling. So I played places where music was not the point early on. And I always thought about, wow, what would it be like? What would it be like to play someplace where people, you know, they come to hear you because they want to hear you? You know, they're not just coming there for pizza. They're not just coming there for a Hamburger. They actually are coming there on purpose to hear you. And I used to think about that all the time and think about what a great feeling that must be. And all these years later, I am able to realize what a great feeling that is. And I appreciate it every time that the band and I, whatever the band is with the band, every. Anytime the band and I step on stage. I appreciate those folks that come.
Buzz Knight
Well, folks can go to lylevitt.com to see the multitude of dates that you are playing. You. You rode Warrior U and there's tickets available while looking on your website. And you're, you're. You're on the road for a long time, sir, so there's a lot of opportunities for folks to get to see you. But this has been a thrill talking to you, Lyle.
Lyle Lovett
It's nice talking to you, Buzz. That the, you know, playing music and I, I think most recording musicians are, you know, in the, in the same state as. As I am. You know, most, most recording artists make their living playing. Playing live shows these days. You know, the idea of making a record and, and having a record sell enough to. To support you without going out, I mean, that's just, you know, unless you're selling crazy, crazy numbers that very few recording artists in this day and time sell. Most performers make their living playing live. And I have consistently, you know, played 90 to 100 dates a year over the course of my career, which, which means that I'm home more than I'm gone. And also when I'm home, you know, I'm really home. I don't have to go to an office. I don't have to be away from my, my family, which is sort of how I measure value these days, is, you know, is it, is it, is it worth. Is it worth being away from my children, you know, who are eight years old now? I mean, this. A day away means I don't get to take them to school and pick them up. So it's, it's a, you know, it's a pretty high bar to have to be as important as that, you know. But, but, but playing on the road is how we make a living. And, and I'm grateful to the people who, who support us. Where. Where are you calling from today, Buzz?
Buzz Knight
I am in the suburb of Boston known as Carlisle, Massachusetts.
Lyle Lovett
Oh, yeah. Well, and. And the Boston area is. Has been, you know, and New England in general has been great to me over the course of my career. I love. Boston is just one of the great cities in the world, isn't it? I love to and I've gotten to take a couple of summers ago I was there, my family was with me on tour there and we we walked around the Boston Common and had a wonderful time walking the some of the old streets of Boston, but New England, we'll be in Lowell, Mass. This summer in a couple of weeks. But we Boston, Boston, New England is, you know, we get there once a year. You know, it amazes me really, because I spent most of my youth growing up. We didn't my parents both worked, we didn't travel a lot. We had I can think of only a couple of trips where we flew somewhere when I was growing up to take a take a family vacation. So I didn't start seeing a lot of the country until I started traveling to perform. And I always love coming to New England.
Buzz Knight
You are a gem, Mr. Lovett. It's an honor to speak with you.
Lyle Lovett
Thanks for having me on Buzz and I appreciate your, you know, helping me get the word out to your audience. And for any of you folks listening, thanks. Thanks for listening. Come see us.
Buzz Knight
Anything for you, Lyle. Thank you so much.
Lyle Lovett
Thank you both.
Buzz Knight
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Episode: Lyle Lovett: A Music History Journey Through Texas Roots, Grammy Wins, and Timeless Songwriting
Date: December 26, 2025
Host: Buzz Knight
Guest: Lyle Lovett
In this standout episode, Buzz Knight sits down with the legendary Lyle Lovett for an intimate conversation about his Texas upbringing, the artistry behind his timeless songwriting, the influence of family and community, and reflections on the profound impact of tragedy and resilience. Lovett shares stories from his early career, his ongoing passion for performing, and the wisdom he’s gained from horses and farm life, all with his characteristic warmth and wit.
“Anyone in this world that you happen to talk to can be that one person that gives you an insight that you'd never had before.”
— Lyle Lovett (09:20)
“The artists that seem to be successful and well adjusted are more like a stream of water that simply flows its way around obstacles…”
— Lyle Lovett (09:58)
“You only have to have patience when nothing's happening. With horses, there's always something happening. You just have to notice it.”
— Lyle Lovett, quoting Bill Smith (22:27)
“I appreciate the process of what I do more than I value the end result.”
— Lyle Lovett (25:00)
“All these years later, I am able to realize what a great feeling that is. And I appreciate it every time that the band and I… step on stage.”
— Lyle Lovett (29:20)
The tone throughout the episode is warm, contemplative, and gently humorous. Lovett’s storytelling is relaxed; he responds thoughtfully and authentically, sharing personal anecdotes and genuinely appreciating the communities he’s been part of. Buzz Knight’s questions are respectful, conversational, and well-informed, leading Lovett to provide insight into both his career and his core values.
This conversation with Lyle Lovett is a masterclass in humility, gratitude, and the importance of community—whether through music, family, or shared hardship. Lovett reminds listeners that artistry is rooted not just in talent, but in an abiding commitment to the people and traditions that shape a life. For longtime fans and new listeners alike, this episode is a rich, memorable walk through the life and mind of one of America’s finest songwriters.