Maggie Rose Reveals How She Redefined Her Country Music Career and Embraced Her True Artistic Identity-Music History

Summary

Takin' A Walk – Music History with Buzz Knight

Episode: Maggie Rose Reveals How She Redefined Her Country Music Career and Embraced Her True Artistic Identity
Date Aired: December 23, 2025 (originally October 10, 2025)
Guest: Maggie Rose (Grammy-nominated singer-songwriter)

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Episode Overview

This episode features Maggie Rose, a genre-blurring, Grammy-nominated singer-songwriter known for her powerful vocals and bold creative evolution. Host Buzz Knight and Maggie delve into her critically acclaimed album No One Gets Out Alive (2024), her transformative EP Cocoon, the impact of motherhood, her journey through Nashville’s changing scene, and the challenges and rewards of pursuing an independent music career. The conversation balances music history, personal reflection, and a celebration of artistic authenticity.

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Major Discussion Themes & Key Insights

1. Walking with Icons – The Opening Question

(04:28–06:45)

• Maggie picks two:
  • Paul McCartney: “He’s the greatest, and I want to hear all the stories about those early days and the Caverns, but I also want his take on where music is today.” (04:44)
  • Abraham Lincoln: Interested in his leadership during polarizing times, and how he'd view today. “People kind of chuckle when I say that because they think that as a musician, you sort of need to default to another musician. But... I'd also work very hard to make Abraham Lincoln a fan of my music.” (05:38)

2. Defining Her Artistic Identity – Embracing Genre Fluidity

(06:45–07:57)

• Not “bending the rules”—just serving the song and exploring self as an artist.
• “I think it’s less about bending the rules and not really regarding rules. Trying to kind of serve each song with the sonic arrangement that it needs... I like to explore my capabilities and continue examining myself as an artist.” (07:20)

3. Americana Fest & The Nashville Symphony Experience

(07:57–10:13)

• First time performing No One Gets Out Alive orchestral arrangements in person, with a 70-piece symphony.
• “It was surreal... there aren't many [moments] where you get there and you're like, okay, this is kind of that touch point of all this work that I've been doing over the last couple years.” (08:11)
• On presence: “I was able to consciously slow my brain down. And be like, please enjoy this… I was able to really settle in and enjoy the night.” (09:22)

4. The Creative and Emotional Origins of No One Gets Out Alive

(10:18–11:58)

• Inspired by loss and transition post-pandemic—a resolve to celebrate life and swing for the fences.
• “I kind of felt like I had nothing to lose... Life is too short and it should be celebrated and we should create things that are beautiful.” (10:34)
• “It’s a lot about life and all of its wonder… it’s about gratitude.” (11:33)

5. Becoming a Mother & The Birth of Cocoon

(11:58–13:32)

• Motherhood’s influence: a time of insulation, transformation, and intentional growth.
• “It was also about insulation, too, like protecting myself during this time of physical creation and also just musical creation... Not everyone wants to grow at the same rate as you.” (12:19)
• Letting go of resentment, embracing hope (songs inspired by her son, Graham).

6. Collaborating with Grace Potter – “Poison In My Well”

(13:32–15:31)

• Potter’s generosity and quick affirmation—recorded vocals the same night Maggie asked her.
• “She’s always lifting people up... ask for what you want and you might get it. And we certainly did with what she contributed to that song.” (14:53)

7. The Early Power of Music

(15:31–17:26)

• Realized music’s communal power as a child—performing for family and absorbing diverse influences at home.
• “I just was a bit of a showboat in that way. But what impacted me was seeing this group of adults all of a sudden fall silent... just to like commune in music.” (15:38)
• Influenced by her mother’s love for the Judds, Mary Chapin Carpenter, etc.
• “The female singer was everywhere... I think that definitely shaped my inclination to want to sing and belt it out like them.” (17:00)

8. The New Nashville—Personal and Cultural Change

(21:33–23:36)

• Observes a broader, genre-diverse city now; her own path shifted from “commercial country” to creative independence.
• “When I moved here in 2008... the template didn’t really work for me, and I think that forced me to explore my sound, and that’s when the soul started to come out.” (21:33)
• Regrets fading reverence for classic venues amidst tourism boom.

9. Shining a Light on “Unsung Heroes” and Collaborators

(23:36–25:43)

• Recognition for writers, producers, engineers—including Melissa Fuller, Davis Nash, Ben Tanner, Natalie Hemby, Steph Jones, Anderson Clendenin.
• “Ben Tanner... is someone who really gets in the trenches with me... the role of producer, he takes and he runs with it. He offers so much more.” (24:40)

10. Advice for Independent Artists

(25:43–27:24)

• Be resolute and self-validating.
• “Definitely don’t let what’s around you validate your efforts… I think staying creative is... you have to just be diligent about it.” (25:57)
• Importance of touring: “Playing live regularly and all these different markets and making sure that I go back and nurture those communities...” (26:54)

11. The Songs of Cocoon and Overcoming Industry Setbacks

(27:24–28:59)

• “Relentless” was written after being dropped by her label—a message of resilience.
• “Relentless is a really great message for the EP as a whole... That was definitely a moment where I decided to double down and press on.” (27:34)

12. What Stories Is She Compelled To Tell Next?

(28:59–30:09)

• Hope, as reflected in “Fly”: “I felt like, okay, this is time to share this message and maybe it’ll be like Field of Dreams. If you put it out there, it’ll happen. And I think that’s what we need right now.” (28:59)

13. An “All-In” Creative Attitude

(30:09–31:29)

• On living as if “there’s not really a plan B”: “I see this as a vocation... I don’t have to wonder about what else I want to be doing. So that kind of makes it easy to just say, okay, we’re all in.” (30:35)

14. Maggie’s Podcast – Salute to Songbird

(31:29–32:31)

• Maggie’s own podcast spotlights women in music—recent episode focused on motherhood, live audience format is energizing.
• “I get to interview all my favorite women in the industry... it’s just, it’s so dreamy.” (31:44)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “We can certainly make the journey beautiful along the way.” – Buzz Knight (00:18)
• “Ask for what you want and you might get it.” – Maggie Rose (14:53)
• “Life is too short and it should be celebrated and we should create things that are beautiful.” – Maggie Rose (10:34)
• “I see this as a vocation... there’s not really a plan B.” – Maggie Rose (30:35)
• “I love going on walks with [Grace Potter]... she is so generous with just her thoughts, her takes on what’s going on, and she'll just sit in it with you... she's trying to figure it all out and work through it with people.” – Maggie Rose (15:08)

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Key Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|---------| | 04:28 | Maggie answers, “walk with anyone” question (Paul McCartney, Abraham Lincoln) | | 06:45 | On genre-blending and not following “the rules” | | 08:11 | Performing with the Nashville Symphony at Americana Fest | | 10:34 | Creative headspace for No One Gets Out Alive | | 12:19 | Motherhood & the creation of Cocoon | | 13:42 | Collaborating with Grace Potter (“Poison in My Well”) | | 15:38 | Early realization of music’s communal power | | 21:33 | How Nashville and Maggie’s own journey have evolved since 2008 | | 23:57 | Highlighting writers, producers, and other collaborators | | 25:57 | Advice for independent artists | | 27:34 | “Relentless” and responding to label setbacks | | 28:59 | Stories Maggie wants to tell now—Hope, “Fly” | | 30:35 | How/why “All-In” attitude took hold | | 31:44 | Maggie’s “Salute to Songbird” podcast |

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Conclusion

Maggie Rose’s episode is a testament to the power of reinvention, creative authenticity, and the importance of community—both in music and in life. She shares vulnerable insights about loss and hope, unpacks the realities of being a woman and new mother in the industry, and underscores the importance of collaboration. Maggie’s journey, marked by self-determination and gratitude, serves as an inspiring blueprint for indie and mainstream artists alike.

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Transcript

[Buzz Knight]

Taking a Walk I'm Buzz Knight and welcome back to the Taking a Walk podcast. Today we are revisiting our top episodes from 2025 and this one is a conversation that resonated deeply with music lovers everywhere, including me. It Originally aired on October 10, 2025. It features the extraordinary Grammy nominated singer songwriter Maggie Rose, an artist who understands that while no one gets out of this alive, we can certainly make the journey beautiful along the way. She was fresh off the release of her critically acclaimed 2024 album no One Gets Out Alive, which Rolling Stone hailed as one of the best albums of the year. And Maggie joined us to discuss her stunning new EP Cocoon, featuring her powerful collaboration with Grace Potter on Poison in my well, I can't wait for you to hear once again or for the first time, number four on the top five of 2025 with Maggie Rose coming up next.

[Maggie Rose]

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[Buzz Knight]

Taking a Walk Maggie, welcome to the Taking a Walk podcast. I'm so happy to have you.

[Maggie Rose]

I'm so happy to be here. Thanks for having me.

[Buzz Knight]

So the. The opening volley we like to bring out is the question.

[Maggie Rose]

I know it's coming.

[Buzz Knight]

You do, don't you? The question being if you could take a walk with somebody. I'm blushing now. You see, if you could take a walk with somebody, living or dead, who would you take a walk with? And maybe where would you take that walk?

[Maggie Rose]

Okay, I'm going to cheat because I have to say two people. Paul McCartney, because he's the greatest, and I want to hear all the stories about those early days and the Caverns, but I also want his take on where music is today. And if I can be so greedy, I have to also say Abraham Lincoln because he was one of our greatest presidents during such incredibly divisive time. And I would want to know what he would think about today and how he would navigate today.

[Buzz Knight]

That's awesome. I just recorded a future episode yesterday with Eric from the band Mid Lake, and he said Abraham Lincoln, and he was talking himself out of it a bit at first, and I said, wait a minute. You know, he's. He's one of the guys, right? He's like, he's one of the guys.

[Maggie Rose]

Yeah. Like, absolutely paramount to our history. People kind of chuckle when I say that because they think that as a musician, you sort of need to default to another musician. But, you know, I'd also work very hard to make Abraham Lincoln a fan of my music. That would be a cool accomplishment to have. But yeah, I mean, I think that those really were unprecedented times. And how did he turn down the temperature? And how could. How could he possibly unite our country today?

[Buzz Knight]

Yeah. What could we learn from our past.

[Maggie Rose]

You know, and what would he think about where we've arrived? I mean, I'm sure that might be a kind of brutal criticism from him to see where we've come, but I think that it would just be eye opening to have some perspective from someone who was able to find some sort of solution during a time where it felt impossible.

[Buzz Knight]

And Paul McCartney would then set us straight down industry wise, where things are absolutely heading. One of the things I love about all of your music, the new song, Sting, Cocoon, the ep, and certainly your great career, is the fact that you touch many different genres. You. You like bending, bending the rules a bit over your career. What inspired you to always think that way?

[Maggie Rose]

I think it's less about bending the rules and not really regarding rules. Trying to kind of serve each song with the sonic arrangement that it needs. And I like to explore my capabilities and continue examining myself as an artist. I think that just naturally brings me to these different. These different soundscapes. And I'm very collaborative, so I know that that also lends itself to some of the different sounds that you hear is just all the different people I work with.

[Buzz Knight]

And you were a fan favorite at Americana Fest recently. It sounds like you had multiple great experiences. Do you want to talk about the one with the. The symphony in particular?

[Maggie Rose]

Yes. It was surreal. So on my last album, no One Gets Out Alive, I had a lot of these really great orchestral arrangements, and we actually used a symphony in Macedonia for the recording. This was something that sort of came out of the pandemic, where these incredible symphonies were able to remotely record scores for films and arrangements for albums like my own. So this is the first time that I actually got to realize that kind of presentation with an actual ensemble behind me. It was 70 people, so that was daunting because that's a big train, and once it's moving, there's no stopping it. There's no improvising. So that part was nerve wracking, but it just was. I just got totally swept up in the experience. And it felt like one of those moments where there aren't many, but where you get there and you're like, okay, this is kind of that touch point of all this work that I've been doing over the last couple years to be able to play this music with these musicians who've dedicated their lives to their craft and just talk about collaborative experience. It was like everybody together helping carry these songs through. And something happened right before I hit the stage where I was able to consciously slow my brain down. And be like, please enjoy this. And don't let the sensory overload just make it go by so quickly. And I was able to really settle in and enjoy the night. And just that concert hall in Nashville, it's so beautiful. And all the people that contributed to this record, so many of them were there, and it just felt like a big celebration. And I hope it's the first of many. Now that we have these arrangements, I know there's symphonies all over the world that I'd love to recreate that night with.

[Buzz Knight]

I got chills. That's awesome. That's fantastic.

[Maggie Rose]

I got chills, too. It was really very, very special.

[Buzz Knight]

I want to talk about the 2024 album, no One Gets Out Alive. It certainly has a haunting title. What was your headspace as you were in the midst of that project and that creation?

[Maggie Rose]

I kind of felt like I had nothing to lose. I wrote that song with Natalie Humby and Sunny Sweeney, and it was after I lost people close to me. I had people that passed away. I had friendships that didn't sustain the pandemic and all the stress of that. And I just felt like life is too short and it should be celebrated and we should create things that are beautiful. And I kind of took that approach to the production as well. Like, these were big arrangements, and we swung for the fences, and I tried to put together, like, the best band that I could put together in the studio, and I just really. I went for it, I suppose. And it's a lot about life and all of its wonder and, you know, how different events affect our perception of the passage of time, and it's about gratitude. And I think I just was at a place in my life where it was just so, like, incredibly palpable. And all the joy and sorrow just felt like a really creative moment, I think, for me.

[Buzz Knight]

And then moving into Cocoon, you have your son, Graham, your new young lad. How much did motherhood influence this metaphor of sort of transformation and emergence?

[Maggie Rose]

I think it was also about insulation, too, like protecting myself during this time of physical creation and also just musical creation. I wanted to have this snapshot of these collections of songs during this really special time in my life. And it also was about growth and all the beautiful things about it, but also the sharper edges of it and how, you know, not everyone wants to grow at the same rate as you. Not everyone wants to go with you to this new place that you're going. And emergence is worthwhile, but you shed some things on your way to that next phase as well. So I think it was a lot of it about anticipation, letting go of things that I didn't need to bring with me in this new chapter as a mother, unburdening myself of some resentment. And also there's songs about hope that I want to impart that idea on Graham and show him that there is a world where hope is very much alive.

[Buzz Knight]

You collaborated on Cocoon with this. This gentle flower who needs to come out of her shell by the name of Grace Potter.

[Maggie Rose]

I know. She's such a wallflower. She's so shy. I loved Yalls episode, by the way. She's. She's such a great person. The song is about, you know, not necessarily being able to support someone else and their successes. And she. The antithesis of that. She's so supportive and like, her Vermont community benefits from that, but also her creative community. She's always lifting people up. And I shared this music with her after it was done because I wanted her to hear it and I wanted her feedback on it, but really I was angling to get her to jump on this song with me, and she. Just. The way she is. She said yes on the spot when I asked her over the phone. And her husband, Eric Valentine, is an incredible producer and engineer. So the two of them, I think that night went and put Grace's part on Poison in My well, and she sent it back the next day. And I just was like, this is surreal and an example of like, ask for what you want and you might get it. And we certainly did with what she contributed to that song.

[Buzz Knight]

It's so great. I love it. Poison in My well. And thanks for your nice words on having Grace on. She makes it very easy to. To roll with the flow because she's got such amazing energy and. And focus and.

[Maggie Rose]

And I love going on walks with her. I mean, just. She is. She's so generous with just her. Her thoughts, her takes on what's going on, and she'll just sit in it with you and kind of, you know, she. There's not an agenda. She's trying to figure it all out and work through it with people.

[Buzz Knight]

Can you remember the first time in your life that you were impacted by music?

[Maggie Rose]

Yes. I mean, I was very young and I actually think it was because I always loved to sing around the house and I loved to perform for my parents, friends, and they'd come over for dinner. Like, I just was a bit of a showboat in that way. But I think what impacted me was seeing this group of adults all of a sudden fall silent and pay attention and gather together just to like commune in music. I think sitting the power of that and the community that it brings at such an early age was pretty impactful to me and there were some pretty cool opportunities as a very young person to sing with other people in choirs and just kind of getting to learn from that. And also my parents played great music around the house too. Like my mom would just be like, what do you think about this song? She'd play like the Judds and Mary Chapin Carpenter and talk about their songwriting and it just was like a very.

[Buzz Knight]

Alive in my house and very diverse musically. Which leads to your diverse musical approach. Certainly there was a pop side. You grew up outside of dc, right?

[Maggie Rose]

That's right, yeah. And also the divas were just like abound when I was growing up. I feel like more so than now, it's just like the female singer was everywhere in every genre, really celebrated and I think that definitely shaped my inclination to want to sing and belt it out like them.

[Buzz Knight]

We'll be right back with more of the Taking a Walk podcast.

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[Maggie Rose]

It's a totally different town in my opinion, but I've also found a different Nashville myself, personally, I think in the creative community that I have around me. You know, when I moved here in 2008, I was releasing commercial country music. I was doing the country radio thing and, you know, being dragged around the country doing radio tours trying to get that One song played on that station, and I feel like I would put a whole year of my life into promoting this one song when, you know, we have multitudes within us. And just the template didn't really work for me, and I think that forced me to explore my sound, and that's when the soul started to come out. And my departure from that approach actually just opened up my. My world of music. So I started working in a different way, and I think that that made me attract people who maybe aren't what you would typically assume a Nashville musician to be like. Nashville's music is. The spectrum is so much more broad than it was before. You'll find people making all kinds of music, and I love that it's growing. The traffic sucks, but the food's gotten really good. I do wish that there was some reverence for the old music venues around town. This being Music City, I think that we've forsaken some of those really awesome institutions that made people want to move here in the first place. Like, there's so much that's given way to the bottom line and tourism and all those things which are necessary per city to grow. But, yeah, I think I'm missing the soul of the music scene a little bit and terms of the live entertainment. But there are some incredible places still.

[Buzz Knight]

There's a lot of unsung musical heroes, songwriters, session people that need to be showcased and acknowledged more. I know there's a ton of them that worked on Cocoon with you. Why don't you shine a light on some of these at times. Unsung heroes?

[Maggie Rose]

Yeah. I think Melissa Fuller is an incredible writer. She's also a great artist, and I've written songs with her on previous projects. Davis Nash, he was one of the producers with Ben Tanner, who produced my last album, and Davis helped me write a lot of the songs. He is an incredible programmer and musician. Ben Tanner is. He's with Alabama Shakes out on tour right now, and he's been so instrumental to my evolution. We made an album down at Fame and Muscle Shoals a couple years ago, and then we worked on no One Gets Out Alive. And he's someone who really gets in the trenches with me and helps me with the A and R process and selecting the songs. And, I mean, the role of producer, he takes and he runs with it. He offers so much more. And of course, Natalie Hemby is a great friend of mine. She collaborated on it. Steph Jones, who's had a hell of a year, she's written a bunch of songs for Sabrina Carpenter has a great pop sensibility. Oh, boy. I know I'm forgetting a bunch of people, but my sound guy, Anderson Clendenin, helped with the mixing of it. And he's like this young kid who comes out on the road with us and is such a whiz. I'm very excited to watch his career grow. I forget that he's like only 24 or something. So, yeah, it's exciting. I stay inspired by the people I get to work with.

[Buzz Knight]

I mean, you've been an independent, you know, kind of self founded in your own way. Can you give a piece of advice to artists trying to make it without the big machine behind them?

[Maggie Rose]

Yes. I mean, I think you have to be resolute in the fact that this is what you want to do and definitely don't let what's around you validate your efforts. I've done this with a big machine. I've done it independently over the years, of course, and I think just always wanting to write that next song and staying curious and wanting to continue to examine myself, that's never gone away. I think staying creative is. You have to just be diligent about it. I think that's an approach that I feel like I need to always be trying to flex that muscle. And also I have done this in such a grassroots way. I think playing live regularly and all these different markets and making sure that I go back and nurture those communities that have come out and seen me over the years. Like, that's a really important way for me to sustain my audience and what I do, even if it's a little bit longer of a lapse in between releasing new music. Like, we just. We try to stay out there because the live show is so important to me in connecting with people.

[Buzz Knight]

Talk about some more of the songs on Cocoon. That in particular, you feel are going to really play great out in front of people.

[Maggie Rose]

Well, I failed to mention Chuck Harmony and Claude Kelly as some of my collaborators. They wrote the title track with me, and they also wrote Relentless with me. And they actually are very celebrated songwriters. They've written songs for Miley Cyrus and all sorts of people. But I think Relentless is a really great message for the EP as a whole, because I wrote it just a few days after I found out that I was dropped by my previous record label. I have a new home and everything turned out all right. But that was one of those moments where you're asking, like, how does an artist keep going without the big machine? That was definitely a moment where I decided to Double down and press on. And I think that that always goes over really well in the audience because it's not necessarily providing a solution for the listener, but it is definitely an encouraging message.

[Buzz Knight]

The Washington Post little newspaper called you one of music's rising storytellers. What stories are you most compelled to tell right now at this stage of your life?

[Maggie Rose]

Right now? Stories of Hope. The last song on the EP is a song called Fly, and it's the only song in this collection of songs that I didn't write and record, you know, while I was pregnant. I actually wrote it years ago with Caitlin Smith and Raleigh Goldswick, and it almost, I felt like I was like, this is too, too hopeful, this is too positive. And because of where I am right now with my son and I'm excited about the future, I felt like, okay, this is time to share this message and maybe it'll be like Field of Dreams. If you put it out there, it'll happen. And I think that's what we need right now. Know it sounds trite, but if you can package it in a way that you, you can believe, and I feel like I, I'm trying to get there, then that's okay. We can, I'll have more of that out there for sure.

[Buzz Knight]

Maggie, you clearly have this approach, which is not leaving anything, you know, taken for granted and just playing and creating as if it's the last time you're going to play and create. You, you have that all in, thousand percent approach for sure. Do you know when that first clicked in as a musician, that attitude?

[Maggie Rose]

I, I mean, I think sometimes it's, it's almost like I, I just need to get in that mode and hope that I will mentally arrive there. So, like, it appears that way. But I think it's because I see this as a vocation. I think it's, there's not really a plan B. There's not something else I would rather be doing. So it makes it very simple in a way because you're just like, well, this is it. And I'm getting to do what I love. And yeah, it comes with some challenges and it can be kind of gnarly at times, but I don't have to wonder about what else I want to be doing. So that kind of makes it easy in a way to just say, okay, we're all in.

[Buzz Knight]

I'm so grateful that you came on the podcast and for, I'm so grateful for the music that you continue to give us and the performances and, and, oh, I neglected to let you plug your podcast. So why don't you plug your podcast?

[Maggie Rose]

Thank you. It's called Salute to Songbird and I get to interview all my favorite women in the industry. And I just did a special episode with Caitlin Smith and Lucy Silvis and Jillian Jacqueline about motherhood and being a working mom in the industry. But I've had Melissa Etheridge on and Nancy Wilson and it's just, it's so dreamy. And now I'm doing in front of a live audience, which is really fun because I'm talking to other performers and they just really give me great interviews with that energy in the room. So I hope to continue doing it. And the list of people that I've been recommended just never ends. It's constantly growing because there's so many amazing people out there to talk to.

[Buzz Knight]

Well, and those people want to be on with the cool people. And you are one of the cool people.

[Maggie Rose]

So thanks.

[Buzz Knight]

Yeah, thanks Maggie.

[Maggie Rose]

I'm trying.

[Buzz Knight]

I appreciate you being on. This is awesome.

[Maggie Rose]

It's great to talk to you. Thank you so much for having me.

[Buzz Knight]

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