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Takin' A Walk - Music History with Buzz Knight
Music Discovery with Singer-Songwriter Noah Floresch-New Music "Francis Aquarius"
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Taking a walk.
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I'd love to leave a legacy that, you know, I make something that's impactful enough that 20 years from now people are like, I'm trying to make music like that. Or not even like that, but just I'm inspired by this music to make music. What a special thing.
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I'm Buzz Knight and welcome back to the Taking a Walk podcast. I am thrilled to be joined by Noah Flourish. Now, if you haven't heard of Noah's music yet, you are in for a treat. This 26 year old indie artist has been quietly building something really special, blending folk storytelling with rock energy and pop melodies that just stick with you. He's originally from Omaha, Nebraska. He made the move to Nashville where he's been crafting a sound that feels both deeply personal and universally relatable. Since launching his career in 2018, he's released over 70 original songs. And yes, you heard that right, 70 songs. His breakout hit, Ghost of Chicago captured millions of listeners worldwide. But it's his recent work that really has me excited to dig into and go deep today.
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This is an iHeart podcast.
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Every music lover has that moment you hear or read something that stops you in your tracks. A forgotten B side, an offhand comment in an interview, a connection nobody else noticed. The that curiosity. That's where Claude comes in. Claude is AI for people who don't stop at the surface. It helps you explore the real stories behind the music. Not with quick answers, but by working through the discovery with you, matching your level of curiosity. Try Claude for free at Claude AI Buzz Lexus believes in the importance of standards. One of my standards I never want to be late. I always want to show up on time. For Lexus, the standard is simple experience. Amazing. Their benchmarks aren't stats or specs, they're feelings. Exhilaration, joy. That sense your car was designed just for you. Machines built to make you feel more human. Because a car that doesn't make you feel something is a car that stops short of amazing experience. Amazing at your Lexus dealer. This episode is brought to you by 20th Century Studios New film Springsteen Deliver Me From Nowhere. Don't miss the movie critics are raving is the real deal. An intelligent, deliberate paced journey into the soul of an artist. Scott Cooper, director of the Academy Award winning movie Crazy Heart, brings you the story of the most pivotal chapter in the life of an icon. Springsteen Deliver Me from Nowhere Only in theaters October 24th. Get your tickets now. This episode of Taking a Walk is brought to you by Chase Sapphire Reserve. Whether I'm booking my next vacation or going to a concert. Chase Sapphire Reserve is my gateway to the world's most captivating destinations. When I use my Chase Sapphire Reserve card, I get eight times points on all the purchases I make through Chase Travel and even access to one of a kind experiences like music festivals and sports events. And that's not even mentioning how the card gets me into the Sapphire Lounge by by the club at select airports nationwide. No matter where I'm walking, travel is more rewarding with Chase Sapphire Reserve. Discover more@chase.com Sapphire Reserve cards issued by JP Morgan Chase Bank NA member FDIC subject to credit approval terms apply. And Doug, here we have the Limu Emu in its natural habitat helping people customize their car insurance and hundreds with Liberty Mutual. Fascinating. It's accompanied by his natural ally, Doug.
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Limu is that guy with the binoculars watching us.
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Cut the camera. They see us. Only pay for what you need@libertymutual.com Liberty Liberty Liberty Liberty Savings Ferry unwritten by Liberty Mutual Insurance Company and affiliates excludes Massachusetts. Taking a walk Noah welcome to our Taking a Walk podcast.
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Thank you so much. I'm happy to be here.
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So we like. It's like an icebreaker opening question. It comes out of nowhere sometimes, like a freight train to people. And the question is, Noah, if you could take a walk with someone living or dead, who would you take a walk with and where might you take that, that walk?
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What a great question. Living or dead, man? Yeah, talk about a freight train. Holy cow. Coming out of the gates. Coming out of the gates. I think I'd have to say this is maybe a bit off topic, but I've always been very fascinated by Abe Lincoln and I never really talk about this because I never have a reason to, but he's just such a fascinating character. And I saw, I saw that movie Lincoln when I was younger, when it, when it first came out, and it just kind of like actualized or humanized him in some ways I'd never really thought about because you think about him as this, you know, larger than life physically too. He was a big guy figure in American history and just kind of an unbelievable weight on that man's shoulders and what he dealt with. I don't know. Kind of a, an interesting figure. I feel like he'd be cool to talk to.
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You're the second one in two days that has brought up Abe Lincoln.
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No way.
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You're in good company because the artist named Maggie Rose yesterday. Maggie, she said. Well, she said, she said, can I say to Paul McCartney because he's Paul McCartney. And then she said Abe Lincoln.
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That is, that is so funny because I, I kid you not, like scouts on. I was never a Boy Scout, but scouts honor. Paul McCartney was like my other answer. And I was like, bit, bit obvious, you know, bit obvious for a music podcast, you know, I was like, you know, maybe I should spice it up a little bit. That is so funny. Sir Paul McCartney would have been my other one. I gotta, I gotta meet this Maggie Rose.
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Yeah, she's, she's, she's wonderful. But you know, listen, you know, in the world that we're living in, we love true to life characters that are authentic and we also like alter ego fictional characters such as Francis Aquarius that we're going to speak about as well.
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Yeah. So, yeah.
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But Abe is somebody for the Times, certainly. That I think is a pretty important, you know, one that we would want to get our arms around somehow. You know, what he would be, what he would be certainly thinking, you know, especially right now.
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Yeah, we, we, we, we're in a divided time. How do you handle that? How do you lead that? It's an interesting, interesting query for that man, for sure.
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So first of all, 2024 was a pretty good year for you, I would say.
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Oh yeah.
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You had Loneliest Girl in the World.
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That's right.
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Clean and the Bird song.
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That's right.
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Talk about as you reflect on 2024, how satisfying it is for what you accomplished.
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I mean, the song releases alone were a real treat. It was a time where we kind of just wanted to put out whatever worked. I come from an era of musician who, who, you know, I'm in the TikTok generation. Right. So that's kind of where a lot of my career got its start. And the game of working songs or trying to make songs work versus releasing a song that is already getting a response online. It's an interesting1. And 2024 was a year where I played that game a little bit. I would tease so many songs, so many songs, but I would never tease anything I wasn't excited about. So when I tease clean and clean got a response, it was like, oh great, let's put this thing out. Like people are reacting to it. Let's, let's give it a chance, you know, let's record it. Let's get it down. And that was great. And the same thing happened with Loneliest Girl and the same thing happened with the Bird song. It was like, okay, people are reacting to this song for whatever reason they want to react to it. Let's put it out and let people live in it. So in a way, those were not necessarily guaranteed successes, but it was like we're sitting down to record these songs that we already know people are reacting to. So that was kind of the. The game we were playing that year. And it was coming off of. I had two tours that year, too, and that was the first time I'd ever gone on tour. So I toured in February and March of 2024, opening for an artist named Ricky Montgomery. And that was an incredible experience. The first time on the road, we did, like, 26, some shows over the course of two months, and it was incredible. I got to see parts of the United States I'd never gotten to see before, and then I did my headline tour in the fall. So 2024 as a whole was just an incredible. An incredible year, and it was built upon. It was built upon things that we just, like, knew were working. It was an interesting time, but you get to the end of it, and it's like, okay. At that point, I was pretty ready to dive into, or rather stop playing the game of appeasing the market by giving them what they want. I wanted to hole up and make something for me and then give it to the world, because that feels a bit pure. The artist in me resonates with that process a little bit more. So while 2024 was full of highs, it was. We were still playing a bit of a game. You know what I mean?
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You're incubating stuff and learning from that incubation, though.
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Certainly, certainly.
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And so it is. It is experimentation and using the tools at your disposal. But I do completely get the fact that eventually you go, all right, this is a bit of a game. Let me just create.
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Yeah, yeah. And that was something that, you know, it's not like that idea starts and stops as 2025 begins. I was writing so much of the album that's coming, so much of Francis Aquarius was written in 2024, so that that sentiment had already kind of embedded itself. As Loneliest Girl began releasing, as the Birdsong began releasing, it was like, okay, it's time for me to, you know, bunker down and make something that means something to me. And, like, it doesn't matter what the reaction is, like that. That is a pure form of creation in my mind.
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So who are the Mount Rushmore impact artists that really shaped you at an early age?
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Yeah, I'll start with some. So I guess I get four picks because that's how Mount Rushmore works. Yes. So I'll. I'LL do an easy one with Fleetwood Mac. That was something. That was a band my mom listened to a ton growing up. So we had family. I'm from Omaha, Nebraska, originally. We had family out in Denver and Colorado Springs. So we would make that drive through Nebraska all the time in our family van and that room. We had, like, a Rumors Deluxe cd. So it was like. It was rumors. And then you'd get some, like, live versions of songs and whatever. And I remember there was. There was the live performance of Tusk with the USC marching band. We had on that cd, for some reason, even though that's not on the Rumors. I don't know how it was on the same CD or what the deal was, but maybe you've heard that, maybe you haven't. But I hadn't heard that song or that version or that rendition for years and years and years. I probably. Since I was driving in that van with my family, like, 15 years ago, I hadn't heard that version. And it popped up on my TikTok and I rediscovered it. And there's this. There's this moment at the end of that particular track, that recorded live track, where I don't know if it's Lindsay, one of the members, goes USC marching band. And I heard that for the first time in, like, 15 years. And it, like, unlocked some. Some crazy memories for. It was like. It's crazy how, like, certain sounds or scents can unlock, like, distant memories and things like that. So I would say Fleetwood Mac. That's an easy pick. I would say Vampire Weekend. Their band, I have loved for the longest time. My oldest. My oldest brother. I've got a big family. My oldest brother was a big Vampire Weekend fan when he was in high school. And so I was in fourth, fifth, sixth grade getting, like, some pretty interesting, pretty eclectic music tossed into my ears from an early age by, like, a brother. By an older brother driving me to soccer practice who happened to have good indie music taste. So I was listening to Vampire Weekend early on, and I've been a fan of theirs ever since. Everything they've released, I cling to and really, really enjoy. So they're a big one. I would say probably the artist that had the biggest impact on me emotionally from, like, high school to college years would be Gregory Allen Isaacov. He's, you know, just incredible folk lyricist. And his album the Northern Hemisphere was so. So impactful in. In how I just. How I'd like to be perceived and, like, the kind of music or the kind of response I'd like to get out of the music is like the response I get seeing him. He came. I was at the University of Nebraska, Lincoln, and he came to play a show in Lincoln and I ended up like front row because I got there so early because I was dying to see him. And, man, I cried the whole time. And I never, like, when I go to shows, I never really get into the music like that because I'm always studying. It's like a curse of mine. I'm always just watching the stage and being like, how can I do this? Or how can I do that? I tell you what, that is one of, like, very few shows that I was not studying at all and I was just actually in it, like a real audience member enjoying it. So I say, Gregory, Gregory Allen Isaac Offs. That's Fleetwood Mac, Vampire Weekend. Gregory Allen Isaacov and who else is my number four? Ooh, this is tough.
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I wish I had the, you know, the game show sound effects underneath you, like from Jeopardy, like, you know.
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Yeah, yeah, I know it, I know it.
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That.
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That would not help me think. Then I'd feel like, okay, the pressure's really. Tell you what, I'll go. This is a bit of some recency bias. I don't know if, you know, if this was like a pivotal position. Just something I've been listening to a lot recently. I've had Cameron Winter and Geese, the band Geese, and then his solo project is his name, Cameron Winter. I've had them go and going, going all year. This band, Geese, is just incredible. They're really experimental and cool. And Cameron Winter's solo project, he put an album out called Heavy Metal and it's mostly just him at piano and it's beautiful. He's great, great writer. Just loving his vibe right now. So I'd put him up there.
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That's a fantastic list.
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Yeah, yeah. Have you heard, have you heard Geese? You know Cameron Winter at all?
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I have not.
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Ooh.
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I have not.
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I highly, highly recommend. Really, really, truly. I think they're one of the better musical acts out. Like, stuff out right now. Yeah, they're a blast.
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I've heard of the others. And as you were talking about Gregory Allen Isaacoff, we have this other podcast that Lynn Hoffman hosts is called Music Saved Me. And she had this artist, another Nashville based artist named Jess Joquet, who is a major fan of Gregory Allen Isaac off. Like, she just, just was going on and on, loving and inspiring, you know, by him. So it's funny how all things come around.
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Yeah, it's really cool to talk about artists like this and it's a goal of mine someday to be that in some ways for other musicians. You know, like, I'd love to leave a legacy that, that, you know, I make something that's impactful enough that 20 years from now people are like, I'm trying to make music like that, or, or not even like that, but just I'm inspired by this music to make music. What a special thing.
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Limu is that guy with the binoculars watching us.
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Cut the camera. They see us. Only pay for what you need@liberty mutual.com savings. Very unwritten by Liberty Mutual Insurance Company affiliates excludes Massachusetts. Welcome back to the Taking a Walk podcast. Well, one of the joys for me of doing this podcast is exactly. It's my discovery of a particular artist or, or their loves. I absolutely just adore that and I hope the audience listening adores it as well and supports all of our sponsors as a result. So we can, we can keep doing this, you know, but as somebody who's released over 70 songs since 2018, that's an incredible output. First of all.
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Yeah, ridiculous.
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But I don't think so. How do you decide which songs deserve to be on the next release?
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Yeah. So when it comes to. When it comes to a project like a body of work, if it's an album or if it's an ep, they have to exist in the same space. I'm far less particular when I'm releasing just singles. Right. So when we're talking about 2024, I released Clean, I released Loneliest Girl, and I released the Birdsong as kind of untethered tunes. Right. They exist kind of in their own universe. They are their own things. And that's fine. That was my intention with them. I didn't really want to, you know, bundle them up into any particular body of work because I didn't really have a place for them at the time. When I create an album or an episode, I am much more particular about what belongs on that. When it comes to finding a space for an album, a sonic space or a narrative, this is typically my approach. Have you ever seen. I bring that. I've brought this up before and it, I think it's a. I think it's a good metaphor. Have you ever seen somebody tried to explain how gravity Affects space in that they will stretch out a piece of cloth or a blanket or something and place a big ball in the middle that would act as, like the sun or that would act as some sort of gravitational. Strong gravitational force. And they'll throw marbles across the blanket. And you watch them kind of rotate around and then eventually gather towards the middle, wherever that center of gravity is. I approach a lot of my bodies of work in that way where it's like, okay, if I have a pocket of songs that are fitting together really well, let's say it's three or four songs that talk about some of the same stuff, have some of the same sonic or energy, you know, spaces to them, that feels like a pocket of gravity to me. And then I can start writing songs. That's like throwing the marbles on the sheet. I can start writing songs in that direction. And if things are resonating and if things are existing nicely, then you might have a little solar system right there that's ready to be presented somewhere else or that's ready to be recorded. Really, like, once you have your proof of concept in the songs themselves, it's like, okay, let's see if we can push forward with this. Let's see if this can really be a system that can exist. And so that's kind of my approach. And that was my approach with Francis Aquarius. I had two or three songs that were sitting on that project for a long time. And I kind of just was testing everything I wrote. I would kind of throw in the system and sometimes the system would spit it back out. Sometimes it would float around for a while and then find its way out. And eventually enough songs stuck that I was like, this makes sense. This is a narrative. This is a space, and it's ready to be seen.
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It's like a checklist for landing a plane.
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Elaborate on that for me.
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Well, I've not. I'm not a pilot, but my understanding is when you take off or you land a plane, pilots have very specific checklists to make sure this happens successfully. I realize what you're doing is not the equivalent, but it does go through a filter and a number of things that are tangible and emotionally that have to fit in for you. So maybe it's a terrible analogy. It's probably a terrible analogy.
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I would say. I would say it's the perfect analogy on a song to song basis. It's like, does this song exist in the same universe? Is the landing gear down? You know, does this song, like, satisfy a space that other songs on the Project don't. Do you know, are. Are the lights on the air on the. On the tarmac, On. I don't know. I don't know the checklist either. I've never flown a plane. I probably never will, given that performance. But I see exactly what you're saying as far as, like, qualifications for a song to exist in that universe. That's certainly a thing. You go down. You go down that checklist.
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Filters.
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It's part of it. Yeah, it's filters and it's. It's math a little bit. It's spatial. It's an interesting thing. And people who aren't creating albums, people who exist outside of music creation, it's something they don't really get to peek at a whole lot. A lot of people don't realize that, you know, there's 12 songs on Francis Aquarius probably wrote, like, damn near a hundred that exist or existed with the intention of potentially being on the project. You know what I mean? So it's an interesting thing.
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So when you put Francis Aquarius to bed, how long did it take you to put that to bed? And how much restlessness in that creative process did you have, if any?
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Oh, a ton. A ton. I. That thing will not be put to bed until it's out for me in my mind. Like, I'm still wrestling with, like, just yesterday, I laid down in bed and I listened to the album again all the way through, which I hadn't in, like, a week to be like, okay, is this. Is this still good? Like, do I still like this music? You know? But the idea of Francis Aquarius began years ago, I think in late 2023 was when I had the idea for the title. My. I had just put out my previous record, which was Noah, and that album was very proud and very. It was a very much like a. It felt like a freshman album. Wasn't my first album, but it felt like a proper introduction of, like, my artist project. It was very much a. Like, here I am, check me out. This is what I'm on. And Francis is my middle name. And Aquarius is my sign.
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Francis is my middle name as well.
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Come on. Is it?
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And Aquarius is my sign too.
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What's your birthday?
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January 28th.
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You're January. I'm on February 7th. But, hey, this album buzz is as much yours as it is mine. Now, that's pretty funny. Francis Aquarius. How funny is that? Okay, well, there you go. So, yeah, Middle name. Is it saintly? Is that a saintly name? Are you named after someone in the Family. What's the. Where's Francis come from for you?
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I think it's a saintly thing.
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Yeah. I was at St. Francis of Assisi.
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That's right.
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Yeah. There you go.
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Yeah.
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So anyways, it came up with that title because it sounds like a guy. It sounds like a cool guy. I came up with that title.
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I'd like to know him. I'd like to know this guy.
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Yeah, right. And eventually the narrative kind of unfolded that, well, he kind of sucks. He's kind of a bad guy. You know, it's kind of. It's kind of parts of me. He's fun, though. It's parts of me that over the last, you know, year and a half, have. Have popped up every now and again, and I've taken note. And then I go into songwriting sessions and I go, well, hey, this was interesting. Let's talk about it. And it usually ends up with a song from the perspective of a guy who isn't doing the best. You know, this. A lot of these songs were written around the same time that I was going on these tours, and I was single at the time, and I was very aloof. And I think that certainly shines through in a lot of ways via insecure lyrics and kind of a biting tone and in a lot of these tracks. So, I don't know, interesting to think about. But it was as far as putting the thing to bed. I mean, Francis Aquarius is still turning over in my mind. You know what I mean? But with any release, like, once it's out, you. I at least get to wash my hands a little bit. I at least get to say there's no going back. And that's. That's a really. In some ways it's scary, but in some ways it's pretty comforting.
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Is there a calling to the spirituality? I know your brother is a monk. Your aunt was a nun. Is there a calling to the higher powers when you're completing a project to push it over the finish line ever.
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You know, it's funny, the. The idea. The initial idea of Francis Aquarius, when I Like, I really. When I. When I came up with the title and I was like, what could this be the album? There were no songs that really fit this. This space. But it was like, the first time I really thought about what kind of songs could exist in there, and. And I thought about doing sort of like a front half, back half. Like songs that dipped into the Catholic space a little bit. Not. Not so much that they were like worship music, but that just, like, dealt in that tone and then the back half being more, I don't know, Aquarius, like secular or outside of the church and kind of, like, wrestling with the things that I've wrestled with over the past. Anyways, it didn't end up being that. It did not end up being that, because I didn't. 1. I kind of, like, lost steam for that idea pretty quickly because it was just so heady. But it's not like I'm putting out a song called Wild Thing and then praying to God that it'll resonate or whatever. You know, it's funny. Like, I. Yes, I have a brother who's a monk. I just saw him two weeks ago for the first time in, like, a year or so. You can't call him. You can't. You know, he lives in a monastery in an abbey. You can reach him via letter or go in there in person. And so I saw him for the first time in, like, a year or so with my family just two weekends ago. And it's so funny because I'm. I'm there on this monastery with no service, and then I leave, and I'm, like, throwing up a TikTok about me drinking, you know, promoting a song about drinking too much. It's just funny. It's the. I. I wouldn't say I'm so much, like, looking up to God being like, help me out on this one, man, as I am being like, sorry, there's just shame there with some of the subject matter and whatever else, which is pretty Catholic of me. But, yeah. I don't know. It's an interesting question.
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What does your brother think of what you're doing?
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He. When he really dove into. Initially, he wanted to be a diocesan priest. And when he really dove into that after he graduated from college, that was one like, oh, my gosh, I'm gonna have a brother who's a priest. That was crazy. That was a crazy. Like, I had never thought that that was gonna happen. And we would have discussions all the time where he would rip me to shreds being like, this song is too. You know, I. He. He's. He's a particular fella, but he would be like, this song is, you know, too sexual, or this song is too, you know, whatever. So we would get at it all the time. If he heard some of the stuff that I've got on this album, I'm sure he'd be shaking his head. But he can. He's a monk now, so he said, it's not like they got ipods there or anything. So, I don't know, maybe. Maybe it's better he doesn't hear it, but. Yeah, that's funny.
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You can't make that up.
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No, it's. I've got a pretty eclectic family. It's part of. I think it's. It's an interesting part of my story. I. And I appreciate it so much. It's. What a gift, you know, to have these differences and still be as tight as we are, you know?
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Yeah, it's colorful, that's for sure, right?
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Certainly, certainly. Oh, yeah. I don't take it for granted.
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So when you dream into the. The future and you made reference to this producing work that has staying power and that others can admire or emulate or all the above, you know, where do you. Where do you see the future?
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For me, as far as, like, solidifying that legacy? Yep, it's twofold. I think some of that is growth. Some of that is, like, commercial success and, like, working towards that, which is like, a dirty thing in a lot of ways. And it, like, certainly irks the. My. My artist, you know, it irks me, that reality. But it's necessary and it's true, and I'm not going to shy away from it. I think that's, you know, obviously a goal of mine, is to run a successful camp and play bigger shows and sell more records and do that whole thing. But I also think the opposite side is addressing the responsibilities that come with being an artist, which is breaking ground, doing things that haven't been done before, saying things that haven't been said before and trying to do that more. So those are. Those are two doable things. Those are two things that I feel like I can accomplish that could solidify that legacy, but is not really the purpose of the legacy, if that makes sense.
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It does.
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I find what's worth having in a legacy, because even the legacy itself is an ego thing. Wanting to be remembered is a bit soft, is a bit lame, is a bit boring, is a bit. I don't know, it's an old way of thinking that doesn't do the artist in me any good. Just like the commercial stuff, it's not so different than the commercial stuff. Wanting to be remembered is not so different from wanting to sell a zillion records. I think for me, what's important is, like, human impact. Like, real human impact. Like, my life and anybody's life is a flash in the pan of, like, human history. So, like, Forget legacy. Paul McCartney, an incredible musician. Will people know Paul McCartney's music 500 years from now? Who's to say maybe, maybe I'm not gonna rule that out. But at the same time, like, what is a legacy worth then? You know, for me, it's worth lies in the impact that you may. It's like in its ripples. It doesn't have your name necessarily attached to it, but it may have some message of yours attached to it, or it may have some good act or good feeling attached to it. It may. It may be 50 years from now. A fan of mine has a daughter and she shows a daughter, her daughter that song and that daughter loves the song. Never learns my artist name, hears it in her youth and it's a melody that sits with her. It's a message that sits with her and means something. Or they can sing it together or whatever. And my name isn't even attached to it. That's a beautiful thing that I like to imagine. Music is a beautiful thing and there are so many different ways to bastardize it or to think about it wrong. And protecting those things selfishly makes the art worth it, you know, and makes a lot of the bullshit that comes with this industry worth it. I don't know. So as far as legacy is concerned, even that can be a dirty word. I want my legacy to exist in good feeling and good faith and good.
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Action and I would add on and being a breath of fresh air.
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B
I hope so. I hope so. There's something there's I would love to be fresh too. I would love to be fresh.
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A
You are a breath of fresh air, Noah. And congratulations on Francis Aquarius and all the great work. I so enjoyed it and I hope you'll come back sometime.
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B
Thank you Buzz. I'd love to be back.
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