Taking a Stroll Through the '80s: A Conversation with Martin Fry of ABC

Episode Release Date: February 11, 2025
Host: Buzz Knight
Podcast: takin' a walk

Introduction

In this engaging episode of "Taking a Walk," host Buzz Knight welcomes Martin Fry, the charismatic frontman of the iconic New Romantic band ABC. The conversation delves deep into Martin's illustrious career, his experiences within the New Romantic movement, his recently released autobiography, and the personal challenges he's overcome. This comprehensive discussion offers listeners a rich tapestry of insights into the music industry of the '80s and beyond.

A Walk with David Bowie

The episode kicks off with Buzz Knight posing a thought-provoking question to Martin Fry:

"If there was someone you could walk with, living or dead, who would that be? And where do you think you'd like to take that walk with them?" (02:21)

Martin Fry responds passionately, choosing none other than the legendary David Bowie:

"It would be nice to take a walk through the center of London with David Bowie... it'd be nice for him to give me a tour of London, a city I know well." (02:36)

Martin's Relationship with David Bowie

Martin shares his deep admiration for Bowie, recounting personal interactions that highlight Bowie's influence:

"We went to Good Earth Studios for a couple of days... David Bowie showed up there. So you can imagine the effect of that. But he was really cool. He hung out and he kind of made a lot of suggestions for the record." (03:32)

He reminisces about an encounter where Bowie attended an ABC show incognito, emphasizing the profound impact of meeting a hero:

"He came to a show, stood in the wings... Is it wise to meet your heroes? I wish I had them." (04:00)

ABC's Journey and Recent Tours

Buzz Knight transitions the conversation to ABC's current endeavors, including their successful tour co-headlining with Howard Jones:

"We went on the road in August, September last year, ABC and Howard Jones. And the tour was a phenomenal success." (08:10)

Martin reflects on the dynamics of touring with a fellow New Wave legend, highlighting the mutual respect and shared history between the artists.

ABC's Role in the New Romantic Movement

A significant portion of the discussion centers on ABC's influence within the New Romantic movement and the broader New Wave scene in America:

"We came out in the early 80s wanting to make people dance. We wanted to fuse the two worlds of kind of the dance floor and also the bands that were kind of very Intellectual and arty." (09:12)

Martin elaborates on the fusion of danceable rhythms with intellectual and artistic expressions, positioning ABC as pioneers who bridged diverse musical landscapes.

Martin's Autobiography: "The Look of Love"

Buzz introduces Martin's newly released autobiography, prompting a discussion on his motivations and writing process:

"I'm in a good point in my career where I can pick and choose, really, 40 years on... It just felt right to share some of the adventures I've had." (12:50)

Martin discusses the artistic approach of his autobiography, emphasizing its visual elements and the decision to avoid ghostwriting to maintain authenticity.

Songwriting and Personal Reflections

Delving into his creative process, Martin draws parallels between songwriting and memoir writing:

"Memoirs tend to be the... I just figured it just felt like the right time." (14:00)

He reflects on his album "The Lexicon of Love, Too," illustrating how his perspectives have evolved over time and how this evolution is mirrored in his music.

Personal Challenges and Health

A poignant segment addresses Martin's battle with Hodgkin's disease and its profound impact on his life and music:

"When I was 27... I was diagnosed with the Hodgkin's disease... it kind of hit me at a time when I was kind of top of the charts." (23:06)

Martin speaks candidly about the emotional turmoil of his diagnosis, the solace he found in music during recovery, and how these experiences influenced his songwriting, notably the hit "When Smokey Sings."

"It's about that feeling of euphoria you get when you hear a great piece of music... how it can just take you away from your troubles." (23:06)

He also touches on the challenges of maintaining his career trajectory amidst health struggles and the eventual realization of the blessings that emerged from his adversity.

Exploring Musical Tastes and Inspirations

When prompted about his current musical interests, Martin shares a diverse playlist that reflects his eclectic tastes:

"I've been listening to a lot of Chill out... D'Angelo... jazz... yacht rock." (17:29)

He discusses the influences of artists like Steely Dan, Prince, and Frank Ocean, highlighting the continuous evolution of his musical palette.

Closing Remarks

As the conversation draws to a close, Martin reiterates his commitment to delivering powerful performances:

"As long as I can sing, I'll sing." (26:24)

Buzz Knight congratulates Martin on his autobiography and upcoming tours, encapsulating the essence of their enriching dialogue.

Notable Quotes

• Martin Fry on Music as Therapy:

  "The music is the medium... it's like medicine." (23:06)

• Martin Fry on Meeting Heroes:

  "Is it wise to meet your heroes? I know once I was in Los Angeles and I went to see Prince... I wish I had them." (04:00)

• Martin Fry on ABC's Musical Vision:

  "We wanted to fuse the two worlds of kind of the dance floor and also the bands that were kind of very Intellectual and arty." (09:12)

Conclusion

This episode of "Taking a Walk" offers an intimate glimpse into Martin Fry's life, his enduring passion for music, and the resilience that has defined his journey. Through candid revelations and heartfelt reflections, listeners gain a deeper appreciation for the man behind ABC's timeless hits and the legacy he continues to build.

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