This Week in Music History 7-7

Summary

Podcast Summary: "takin' a walk" – This Week in Music History 7-7

Release Date: July 8, 2025
Host: Buzz Knight
Produced by: iHeartPodcasts

---

Introduction and In-Person Session

In the July 8, 2025 episode of "takin' a walk," host Buzz Knight brings a fresh, intimate feel by recording the episode in person amidst the scenic hills of Connecticut. Accompanied by guest Willie B and special appearances from friends Willie and Lynn Hoffman, the episode sets a relaxed, coffee-house atmosphere perfect for an engaging dive into music history.

Buzz Knight [03:08]:
"Wow, this is incredible. This is the Taking a Walk podcast. We're actually in person too."

Episode Highlights

1. Elvis Presley and "Teddy Bear" – July 7, 1954

The episode kicks off with a discussion about Elvis Presley's release of "Teddy Bear" on July 7, 1954. Willie B shares his fondness for the song, referring to it as "one of my favorites," though Buzz humorously contrasts this by noting Elvis' later, more flamboyant years.

Willie B [03:52]:
"On July 7th, they released 'Teddy Bear,' one of my favorites. Hokey, kind of the hokey Elvis."

Buzz adds a personal touch by reminiscing about attending the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony, highlighting Cher's powerful performance and discussing the ongoing debates about genre inclusivity within the Hall of Fame.

2. Cher's Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction

Cher's induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame serves as a focal point for examining the evolution and inclusion within the institution. Buzz admires Cher's longstanding success, mentioning her statement about having number one songs over six decades.

Buzz Knight [07:13]:
"Cher is unapologetic about anything. She said there were for so long. I don't give a bleep about this at all."

Willie B reflects on the challenges of integrating diverse genres into traditionally rock-centric halls, emphasizing the symbolic clash between Cher's pop legacy and the rock establishment.

3. The Beatles' "All You Need Is Love" – July 7, 1967

Celebrating the recording of "All You Need Is Love" by The Beatles, Willie B underscores its timeless appeal and universal resonance.

Willie B [08:21]:
"July 7, 1967. The anthemic 'All You Need Is Love' was recorded by the Beatles. That’s a song I would defy you to walk into a room and hit play on your phone and see if there's anyone that doesn't tap their toes or nod their head."

4. The Yardbirds to Led Zeppelin Transition

The conversation delves into the dissolution of The Yardbirds and the subsequent formation of Led Zeppelin. Willie B explains how Jimmy Page retained the band's assets, leading to the creation of Led Zeppelin with John Paul Jones and Robert Plant.

Willie B [08:40]:
"The band lays, you know, basically is dormant. And Jimmy Page says, I'm gonna hang on to the storefront, so to speak."

Buzz praises the documentary "Becoming Led Zeppelin" for its insightful portrayal of the band's origins and the members’ graceful aging.

5. Jefferson Starship and Concerts in Central Park – July 1976

Highlighting Jefferson Starship's performance in Central Park, Willie B reminisces about witnessing the band’s evolution from Jefferson Airplane, appreciating the early lineup's vigor before their shift towards a more pop-oriented sound.

Willie B [12:57]:
"1976, the Jefferson Starship played in Central Park. 50,000 people."

6. Historical Interlude: Joan of Arc’s Execution – July 13, 1456

A brief historical note touches on Joan of Arc's execution, emphasizing the significance of her retrial 25 years posthumously, symbolizing early instances of justice reform.

Buzz Knight [15:39]:
"Joan of Arc was given a retrial on this date, 25 years after her execution."

7. Spice Girls’ "Wannabe" Release – July 9, 1996

The episode takes a lighter turn when Willie B mentions the release of the Spice Girls' "Wannabe." Buzz shares a humorous anecdote about playing the song on speakers during their in-person recording session, leading to playful teasing about his rendition of the track.

Willie B [16:34]:
"On this date in 1996, the Spice Girls released 'Wannabe.' I loved that song."

Buzz Knight [16:39]:
"The reason Harry has that deep, husky voice... that's why he sounds like a friend of Carol."

8. Bob Dylan's "Blowin' in the Wind" – July 9, 1962

Discussing Bob Dylan’s iconic recording of "Blowin' in the Wind," Buzz expresses his admiration for Dylan’s impact on folk music and plans to visit Columbia Studios in New York to explore its historical significance.

Buzz Knight [17:12]:
"Dylan recorded 'Blowin' in the Wind' at Columbia Studios in New York."

9. Donna Summer's "I Feel Love" – 1977

Willie B highlights Donna Summer's release of "I Feel Love," praising its groundbreaking use of synthesizers and enduring rhythmic appeal.

Willie B [18:05]:
"Donna Summer released 'I Feel Love' in 1977. Lots of synthesizer, lots of cool rhythm."

Buzz acknowledges the song's legacy and mentions previous discussions about Donna Summer's contributions, including featuring her daughter on the podcast.

10. Babe Ruth and the Boston Red Sox Trade – July 11, 1914

The hosts delve into baseball history, recounting Babe Ruth's trade from the Boston Red Sox to the New York Yankees for a mere $400,000—a move that has had lasting repercussions in Major League Baseball.

Willie B [19:12]:
"On July 11th, 1914, Babe Ruth became a Boston Red Sox pitcher, and six years later, he was sold to the Yankees for $1,000 and a $300,000 loan."

Buzz humorously critiques the Red Sox's ongoing struggles, contrasting historical missteps with present-day team performance.

11. 1977 New York City Blackout and Son of Sam – July 13, 1977

Concluding with a significant historical event, Buzz and Willie B discuss the simultaneous occurrence of the New York City blackout and the Son of Sam killings. They reflect on how these events impacted the city and media coverage in an era devoid of modern technology.

Willie B [23:00]:
"David Berkowitz, the serial killer, is terrorizing the city, taking brunette women out along with whoever they're with on the streets."

Buzz Knight [24:30]:
"He was getting people in parked cars on the street. He got a parking ticket. That's exactly right. That's how they tracked him down."

Closing Remarks

As the episode wraps up, Buzz and Willie B share light-hearted banter about their experiences and the day’s discussions. Buzz thanks Willie B for his contributions, and they sign off, leaving listeners with a blend of nostalgia, historical insights, and personal anecdotes.

Buzz Knight [25:06]:
"Thank you for listening to the Taking a Walk podcast. Thank you, Harry Jacobs, for this episode of this week in music history."

---

Notable Quotes

• Willie B [03:52]:
  "Teddy Bear, one of my favorites. Hokey, kind of the hokey Elvis."

• Buzz Knight [07:13]:
  "Cher is unapologetic about anything. She has had number one songs for six decades."

• Willie B [08:21]:
  "‘All You Need Is Love’ by the Beatles... see if there's anyone that doesn't tap their toes or nod their head."

• Buzz Knight [15:39]:
  "Joan of Arc was given a retrial on this date, 25 years after her execution."

• Willie B [18:05]:
  "Donna Summer released 'I Feel Love'. That's one of those songs I have a soft spot for."

• Willie B [19:12]:
  "Babe Ruth was sold to the Yankees for $1,000 and a $300,000 loan."

Conclusion

This episode of "takin' a walk" masterfully weaves together diverse threads of music history, personal stories, and historical anecdotes, offering listeners a rich and engaging exploration of significant moments in music and beyond. Through insightful discussions and memorable quotes, Buzz Knight and his guests provide both depth and entertainment, making it a valuable listen for music enthusiasts and history buffs alike.

Transcript

[Buzz]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Harry Jacobs]

OpenAI is a financial abomination, a thing that should not be an aberration, a symbol of rot at the heart of Silicon Valley. And I'm going to tell you why on my show, Better Offline, the rudest show in the tech industry where we're breaking down why OpenAI, along with other AI companies, are dead set on lying to your boss that they can take your job. I'm also going to be talking with the greatest minds in the industry about all the other ways the rich and powerful are ruining the computer. Listen to Better offline on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts wherever you happen to get your podcasts.

[Taylor]

I always had to be so good. No one could ignore me, carve my path with data and drive. But some people only see who I am on paper. The paper ceiling the limitations from degree screens to stereotypes that are holding back over 70 million stars. Workers skilled through alternative routes rather than a bachelor's degree. It's time for skills to speak for themselves. Find resources for breaking through [e-mail], brought to you by OpportunityAtWork and the Ad Council.

[Buzz]

If you've ever wondered what diseases, medieval pee tests and cocktails have in common, you're in the right place.

[Eleanor]

On our show, this Podcast Will Kill youl, we explore the wild world of diseases, their history, biology and impact. Today, vaccines are in part a victim of their own success. They have been so effective in preventing disease and death that we take them for granted. New episodes drop every Tuesday on the exactly right network. Listen to this Podcast Will Kill you on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Buzz]

Wow, this is incredible. This is the Taking a Walk podcast. We're actually in person too. Harry Jacobs, the king of the music history, Des. We're in the hills of Connecticut in person, which is even more special. And my God, I feel like I'm in a coffee house.

[Willie B]

This is this song that I wrote. I don't write any music at all, but I wrote a song 25 years ago and was noodling around with it and never knew what to do with it.

[Buzz]

Is that right?

[Willie B]

Because I don't sing. And when you were looking to put some music at the beginning of Taking a Walk, I said, I got something for you.

[Buzz]

I think I got something.

[Willie B]

I think I got something for you.

[Buzz]

I think you got something. It's.

[Willie B]

Was it.

[Buzz]

What was it inspired by?

[Willie B]

It was supposed to have some. It was supposed to emote some emotion.

[Buzz]

It's Got that?

[Willie B]

Yeah. So that's. That's what it was. And I couldn't really ever do anything with it, so.

[Buzz]

And I picture as we're looking at taking a walk, music history on foot. Photo.

[Willie B]

Logo and the birds flying.

[Buzz]

The birds are flying. One day we'll ask everybody. Do you know where that is? But I'm not gonna tell anybody right now. I'm gonna just have you ask me. Ask me what that taking a walk picture is from that day you were taking walk. I'd be happy to tell you privately if you reach out to me. Yes, Harry.

[Willie B]

So I can't ask you here. Who were you taking a walk with on that day?

[Buzz]

I'll have you guess, but not right now. But take one guess.

[Willie B]

I think that's our friend Willie B. I think that's somewhere in parts unknown in Connecticut.

[Buzz]

Nice. That's my guess. But that's incorrect. All right, you are incorrect, sir. But anyway, thank you for this opportunity to be with you in person and thanks our friends Willie and Lynn Hoffman as well for allowing us to be in the wonderful hills of Connecticut. A beautiful day. And it's a version of this Week in Music History for the week of July 7th. So what do you got, Harry over at the music history desk?

[Willie B]

It's not the typical week with a lot of content that we normally have. You know, with Led Zeppelin and a lot of classic rock. It's an interesting week, almost leaning pop. Elvis in 1954. On July 7th, they released Teddy Bear, one of my favorites. Hokey, Kind of the hokey Elvis.

[Buzz]

Not my favorite, but not as hokey as Elvis would become later on in the bloated years.

[Willie B]

Pork Chops Weston. What is now the Westin Hotel. The High. The. The Las Vegas Hilton.

[Buzz]

The Westgate.

[Willie B]

Yeah. Now the Westgate.

[Buzz]

Yeah. But which I love staying at the Westgate. A cool place, nice people there, Very close to the convention center, which is why I really like it. But Elvis in the Teddy Bear era. Okay, Elvis in terms of the meaning of music history and all of that. Oh, my God, Are you kidding?

[Willie B]

The 68 comeback was so amazing. I just watched the documentary on that.

[Buzz]

Mr. Spencer proffer behind that absolutely incredible.

[Willie B]

Teddy Bear was played for the first time on July 7, 1954, on a radio station called WHBQ. Where for all the cash and prizes on today's episode, Buzz.

[Buzz]

Memphis, Tennessee.

[Willie B]

Get that man his Dr. Scholl shoes and suave deodorant.

[Buzz]

Thank you.

[Willie B]

1965, Sonny and Sher performed I Got yout Babe on Shindig and this was the beginning of that chart topper. That. That's a song that's one of those that stands. It's like these Boots by Nancy Sinatra, older song, but it stands the test of time.

[Buzz]

Stands the test of time. Yes. For me, a great thrill going to the Rock and Roll hall of Fame induction ceremony in Cleveburg, Ohio, and I had never done that before. I was in the press room watching as you would have inductees or people who were presenters walked in there. And I remember the first one publicist comes out or the Rock and Roll hall of Fame person comes out, and they went, in a moment, Cher is coming in. And I was like, what? So Cher comes in. I remember thinking, does she really want to be in this room? And she. She comes to the mic and balls to the wall. Cher let it all go. She looked beautiful.

[Willie B]

Oh, she.

[Buzz]

You know, who came out there with her looked pretty beautiful as well.

[Willie B]

Who's that?

[Buzz]

Dua Lupe.

[Willie B]

Who's. I don't. I don't know who Dua Lupe is.

[Buzz]

Dua Lupe, my God. But. But Cher, unapologetic about anything.

[Willie B]

You gotta. You gotta think she's out of her element in that room. This is a room with Peter Frampton, with Roger Daltrey, with rock royalty. You know, it's a. It's a. You know, it's. It's one thing to really think about including other genres. Cher is a whole nother world. It's apples and cinder blocks, in a way.

[Buzz]

Look, that's a whole criticism people make of the Rock and Roll hall of Fame still. They always will. But I thought when Cher kind of said, I have had number one songs for. I think she said, for six decades. That's a pretty remarkable thing to be able to say, even if you kind of go, all right, do you believe that song? That. That's not really, like what you think of for the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. But she revealed. She said there were for so long. I was like, I don't give a bleep about this at all. And I guess her dear friend David Geffen said, you need to do this. And I pulled the strings because Cher's whole point was, you should have done this years ago. And Geffen said, just do this. And there you go. So that's our Cher.

[Willie B]

And this program has a connection to the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. Taking a walk. Certain episodes are curated.

[Buzz]

Yes.

[Willie B]

Huge. July 7, 1967. The anthemic all youl Need Is Love was recorded by the Beatles. That's a Song. I would defy you to walk into a room and hit play on your phone and. And see if there's anyone that doesn't tap their toes or nod their head.

[Buzz]

A little bit or make you smile.

[Willie B]

Sure.

[Buzz]

Exactly.

[Willie B]

Sure. Just one of those feel good songs. In 68, the Yardbirds played their final gig. And then everything would change. Jeff Beck splits. Eric Clapton splits. Everyone else. Who's it. What's the other name? What's the guy's name?

[Buzz]

Keith Relf.

[Willie B]

Keith Ralph. A name I don't know. And I'm a music nut. Splits out of that band. The band lays, you know, basically is dormant. And Jimmy Page says, I'm gonna hang on to the. I'm gonna hang on to the storefront, so to speak. It's like a restaurant closing in the dishwasher. Or a cook saying, you know what? Don't take anything out of here. I'm gonna keep it. And that's what Jimmy Page did with the Yardbirds. And then he called his friend John Paul Jones. Those two guys had been working in Muzak and they were session players. They were the wrecking crew of Great Britain. Right. And. And John Bonham comes into play and they get Robert Plant. For. For a minute, they were the new Yardbirds. And then they became Led Zeppelin.

[Buzz]

Yeah. The documentary Becoming Led Zeppelin is. Is sensational. And it tells the, you know, the beginnings and certainly traces the Yardbirds story so brilliantly. Got this episode with the professor of Rock where we talk about the becoming Led Zeppelin. That is a nice discussion with him. Love talking to him about it. What impressed me so much about the documentary was the aging, graceful nature of all the members of Led Zeppelin, of course, that are still alive. Jimmy Page aging gracefully.

[Willie B]

He's got a regal look about him. Listen, he went through a tough time. There was a time it was anything but regal.

[Buzz]

That's right.

[Willie B]

Right.

[Buzz]

Looks great. Smile on his face. Dignified. Aging gracefully. Same with Robert Plant. Same with John Paul Jones. They've aged gracefully.

[Willie B]

You made an observation when we talked about it after you saw the movie, you said it would have been great if they were all in the same room at the same time.

[Buzz]

Yeah. Even in some reveal that could have happened. Maybe. I don't know. It sounds kitschy, but maybe at the end or something. But I'm sure the artists themselves or current managers went, we're gonna do this, but this is how we're gonna do it. And I respect that because they yielded a great product in the documentary. And. And if that's the way it's Gonna come out then make it happen that way.

[Willie B]

But excuse me, you guys spent 1968 to 1980 together making some of the most legendary music of all time. With all due respect, getting them together. You know the story of the O2, right? Our friend Rich Creswick, who ran arenas all over the world, was with a handful of people around that O2 show in 2012, I believe led Zeppelin was offered essentially everything that they wanted, anything they could possibly want monetarily, to do a handful of shows around the world. Can you imagine what that would have been like? Think about how great that O2 show was with Jason Bonham.

[Buzz]

Incredible.

[Willie B]

10 shows, 12 shows around the world. They would have paid him a half a billion dollars. They would have paid him whatever they wanted.

[Buzz]

They weren't feeling the magic, which is.

[Willie B]

Listen, the thought of Jimmy Page grabbing his guitar, uh, oh, legal alert. You know, legal alert.

[Buzz]

This is the equivalent of a water mark that I'm putting over this episode for you playing that. Okay, See, one thing to close on about the documentary that I loved in particular about it, you know, what they did that is the key to everything, including this podcast.

[Willie B]

What's that?

[Buzz]

The documentary left us wanting more.

[Willie B]

It sure did. And speaking of more, let's go to 1976 for the Jefferson Starship. They played in Central Park. 50,000 people. You spent a lot of time, your brother would take you from. From Stanford, Connecticut.

[Buzz]

We're.

[Willie B]

We're not far from there. We're in parts unknown, Connecticut right now, but from Stanford to the city. And you saw some concerts in Central Park.

[Buzz]

One in particular was Jefferson Airplane Free Show, Minnie, Woodstock. 100,000 people.

[Willie B]

That would have been around 67, 68 before Woodstock, I believe it was.

[Buzz]

67.

[Willie B]

Yeah.

[Buzz]

And so big Airplane fan had seen the Airplane at the Fillmore east and disappointed when the Airplane ceased at that point. But when the Starship early on for me came on, it was still viable. And I really liked it because it had Grace Paul Kantner, it had the backbone at that point. I'm pretty sure our dear friend Jorma Kalkonen had. He had gone on to other stuff. Hot Tuna. But that version of the Starship, I like that. You know, first version, Papa John Creech and. And I didn't like as much the pop.

[Willie B]

That was Miracles and Ride the Tiger.

[Buzz]

Oh, ride that.

[Willie B]

How about Ride the Tiger, Right? We played that on rock radio.

[Buzz]

Oh, yeah.

[Willie B]

And then the Starship. You know, this is a band, you know, like Aerosmith and like a handful of others that have had multiple lives right over the over their period of time. But they went from that to We Built this City. Right. Think about that. 1986. Ish. Not their great pop song, but not their finest moment as a band. And Mickey Thomas, I believe, may have been around there. Jane. 1980, 81. That's when Mickey steps in. But it really becomes very poppy at that time.

[Buzz]

Yeah. Even though in that early period they still rocked. Yeah, it was. It was pop. But if you think about that and you go, okay, what does a band do to find new audiences? They have to find greater audiences via becoming pop slash popular. So I kind of get that. I don't take that completely away. It just wasn't my favorite period of that music because I was based on the more psychedelic side with the Jefferson.

[Willie B]

Airplane, White Rabbit, you know. Think about how powerful that opening lick is, please, in that song. I mean, it's just great.

[Buzz]

Another great hallucinating as we speak.

[Willie B]

There you go. One quick note. History note. Joan of Arc, on this day in 1456, burned at the stake. How'd you know I was gonna even ask? I was gonna say this. Anyone in the room, And I was gonna include Willie B. Does anyone in the room, including Willie B, know how Joan of Arc was put to death?

[Buzz]

You would think by me saying that so quickly, that we actually recorded this episode twice or three or four episodes. Versions of it two or three times before.

[Willie B]

Anyway, Joan of Arc was. Was given a retrial on this date, 25 years after her execution. This is forward thinking in that. In those days, to give someone a retrial. This is not Karen Reed. This is, you know.

[Buzz]

And my understanding is Johnnie Cochran represented her.

[Willie B]

Anyway, she, they, they, they burn her at the stake. And then like 300 years and some change later, a whole bunch of us were in England and we decided to split. We come over to Boston, we got a tea party, and the shit hits the fan. The next thing you know, here we.

[Buzz]

Are, and the rest is history.

[Willie B]

Thank you very much. This is. I'm embarrassed about this, but on this date in 1996, the Spice Girls released Wannabe. That was that whole if youf Want To Be My Lover song. I loved that song. I don't know what it was.

[Buzz]

Well, and I'm gonna tell a little inside story. The reason Harry has that deep, husky voice just like the late Brenda Vaccaro, is because last night, while we were all together in the hills of Connecticut, unfortunately, that Spice Girls song got blasted here on the speakers. And I think Harry was swaying along to it. That's why he sounds like friend of a Carol.

[Willie B]

It was an experience that those around me will not soon forget. A fat.

[Buzz]

I'm scarred.

[Willie B]

A fat, middle aged, squishy in the middle balding guy singing Wannabe by the spice girls.

[Buzz]

Offbeat.

[Willie B]

July 9, 1962. Dylan recorded Blowin in the Wind at what was Columbia Studios in New York. You're a New York guy. Where's Columbia? Columbia Studios.

[Buzz]

I'm gonna have to look at that. Seriously. And one time when I'm in New York in the future, when I have an idle walk somewhere, which I love doing in New York, I'm gonna find where it is. It's gonna be probably, you know, a cumbees or something.

[Willie B]

When you say cumby's, you're saying Cumberland Farms.

[Buzz]

Cumberland Farms. It'll be a cumbeesome. And that'll be like. That's where Dylan recorded that. So I'm gonna report back on this.

[Willie B]

I'd like to know what's on that land right now.

[Buzz]

I know. Me too.

[Willie B]

Be nice to know y. And this was a great period for Dylan. This was at his height of the being a folk master.

[Buzz]

He's still my man.

[Willie B]

1977, Donna Summer released I Feel Love. Lots of synthesizer, lots of cool, like cool rhythm. That's one of those songs if you. And you know me. I got a little soft spot in my heart for pop and for Donna Summer. That's a very rhythmic, very cool song.

[Buzz]

Are you okay?

[Willie B]

Which I can't. Sorry. Which I can't. It may be acid reflux, but that's an incredibly rhythmic kind of song.

[Buzz]

I believe we've discussed this previously. Great respect for the Donna Summer legacy. I believe if I'm not mistaken, Giorgio Morado was involved with that production somehow or that name. But we could look that up at a later date.

[Willie B]

And you had her daughter on taking a walk.

[Buzz]

Brooklyn Sedano. Yeah. Interesting, because she was talking about her mom and the documentary. Delightful, delightful young lady.

[Willie B]

So many songs, so many, so many.

[Buzz]

Songs from Donna Summer on Casablanca records.

[Willie B]

Yeah. On July 11th. This is an interesting one. 1914, Babe Ruth is becomes a Boston Red Sox pitcher. And six years later, the Red Sox, for $1,000, sold them to the Yankees. Thousand dollars and a $300,000 loan that was connected to real estate. Some hidden weird deal. But for 400 grand, the red Sox trade away maybe the greatest pitcher and hitter of all time.

[Buzz]

And fast forward to now. Yeah, they're still doing dopey shit. This Rafael Devers thing has people upside down. They moved them to San Francisco and basically they didn't get enough in return. So I think it's kind of ironic. These. He was their best player. I think Raphael, if I'm not mistaken, started with the Red sox at like, 17 years old or something like that.

[Willie B]

Right.

[Buzz]

So I think it's kind of ironic to this day, they're still flubbing it.

[Willie B]

When you say they're doing goofy or they're flubbing it as you just did. Is this because you're a Cardinals fan?

[Buzz]

No.

[Willie B]

Because you're not a Red Sox fan.

[Buzz]

Barely interested. Resident of the Boston area who is a Cardinal fan.

[Willie B]

Right.

[Buzz]

But kind of has no vested interest.

[Willie B]

Right. How did you feel after the Red Sox handed the Yankees the largest defeat in playoff baseball history, and then they went on to play the Cardinals and humiliate the Cardinals?

[Buzz]

Kind of depressed at that moment.

[Willie B]

Yeah.

[Buzz]

I would imagine it wouldn't matter now to me.

[Willie B]

So anyway, the Red Sox sells babe for what amounts to 400 grand. Four boxes of ziti, as Tony Soprano would say. And. And. And then it took us 86 years, people. Not far from where we're sitting right now. When the Red Sox were in the World Series, especially that last game when they wrapped it up, grown men were bringing portable televisions to grave sites.

[Buzz]

It's nice, actually.

[Willie B]

It was moving.

[Buzz]

It's nice.

[Willie B]

I shed a tear when the Red Sox won. I thought I was living my entire life without ever seeing it.

[Buzz]

No, it was nice. It's a nice time to be around.

[Willie B]

I want to wrap it up with something that happened on July 13th in 1977 in New York City. This is a big deal. The city essentially collapsed that night because all the power in the city went out. Imagine being in that city at that time. We have no technology. It's not like you can put a cell phone on and watch Netflix. This is 1977. No remotes for TV, no technology. There's nothing.

[Buzz]

It was freaky. I wasn't there, but it was a freaky occurrence. I followed it. I think I was in Ohio then. And then coinciding with that was the Son of Sam situation, which everybody was following. They were mesmerized by Son of Sam. I remember always being able to look at the Daily News or the New York Post. And in fact, I remember one time the dude who was the Daily News reporter, Jimmy Breslin. Jimmy Breslin. I ran into. Well, not ran into. I walked by a phone booth, and I look in there. I'm like, there's the legendary Jimmy Breslin. The guy who was like, following the Son of Sam. Sam thing. And I'm sure by the way, too, knowing the way Jimmy Breslin wrote. He. He wrote. I'm sure something we could look it up. That was a parallel piece to the blackout occurred at a time. Son of. You know, I'm sure he put this. All these things together.

[Willie B]

This was pre chat. GPT. This is a guy who's, you know, cigarette smoke an old white cigar.

[Buzz]

I don't mean to talk. Yeah, people smoke cigar. Cigars.

[Willie B]

Thank you, Brenda. Brenda Vaccaro, the Tampax tampon lady is what I sound like. But this was a huge deal with Breslin. And then we can wrap this up. David Berkowitz, the serial killer, is terrorizing the city, taking brunette women out along with whoever they're with on the streets in New York. And at that time, he's being talked to by, in his opinion, the black lab, who is Sam in his own backyard. And this is happening at the same time that the lights go out in the city. City's being terrorized. My parents sent me the same thing. I think that's what began my true crime addiction. Every day there was someone else being attacked or every couple weeks with Son of Sam.

[Buzz]

Yeah, it was quite a moment. And it was. It's interesting thinking about how it would have been reported in today's world. I think if it was reported in.

[Willie B]

Today'S world, and I don't want to.

[Buzz]

Really go down this hole. I think the blackout specifically, not the sort of Sam part, would be reported in conspiracy theory. Right?

[Willie B]

Yeah.

[Buzz]

You know it would.

[Willie B]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Buzz]

It did happen.

[Willie B]

By the way, you remember how Berkowitz was caught, right? What caught him? What nailed him? He was getting people in parked cars on the street.

[Buzz]

He got a parking ticket.

[Willie B]

Got a parking ticket. That's exactly right. Got a parking ticket. That's how they tracked him down again, pre technology. But there's the week. There's the week in music and pop and just a couple of history stories.

[Buzz]

I am exhausted from it. Possibly exhausted from last night as well, but really exhausted from this episode. I'm kidding. I loved every second of it. Harry, would you play us out, please?

[Willie B]

I am, absolutely. Have you ever been played on and played off?

[Buzz]

Never. First time is always the first time. So thanks for listening to the Taking a Walk podcast. Thank you, Harry Jacobs, for this episode of this week in music history.

[Willie B]

Goodbye, Buzz.

[Eleanor]

With great deals coming this Prime Day, July 8th through the 11th, greatness is a deal away. So if you love baking, you can get a deal on a new mixer, transforming you into the Lord of the loaves.

[Buzz]

Hear ye, hear ye. Make way for the Baron of Brioche.

[Harry Jacobs]

The Sultan of Sourdough, the Lord of the Loaves.

[Buzz]

Primemban. Dave yeah, hi.

[Eleanor]

Shop Great deals this Prime Day, July 8th through the 11th, OpenAI is a.

[Harry Jacobs]

Financial abomination, a thing that should not be an aberration, a symbol of rot at the heart of Silicon Valley. And I'm going to tell you why on my show, Better Offline, the rudest show in the tech industry where we're breaking down why OpenAI, along with other AI companies, are dead set on lying to your boss that they can take your job. I'm also going to be talking with the greatest minds in the industry about all the other ways the rich and powerful are ruining the computer. Listen to Better offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts wherever you happen to get your podcasts.

[Eleanor]

A body, a suspect, and a hundred years of silence. Buried Bones is a podcast about the forgotten crimes history tried to leave behind.

[Buzz]

A common misperception about serial predators is that every single time they commit a crime, they. They commit it the same way.

[Eleanor]

The past is a way of talking if you know what to listen for.

[Buzz]

New episodes every Wednesday on the exactly right network.

[Eleanor]

Listen to Buried bones on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Buzz]

This is an iHeart podcast.