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Buzz Knight
Hi, this is Buzz Knight, and welcome to the Taking a Walk podcast, another look at this week in music history for the week of July 14th. And we go right away over to the music history desk to the one and only Harry Jacobs. Hello, Harry.
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Harry Jacobs
Well, it's a pleasure to be here. I am. I am. I don't need to remind you, I am the music maven. I am the K of the history desk. I am a number. I can't even remember all the names you've given me, but I'm something.
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Buzz Knight
The purveyor of music history.
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Harry Jacobs
There you go. Yeah, let's get off with A bang here. July 14th through the 20th is the week we're covering 1967. On July 14th, the who began their first major US tour. They opened for Herman's Hermits. They did that in Portland, Oregon. And, you know, I can't explain, was that the big track from which album?
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Buzz Knight
Meaty Beatty, big and bouncy.
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Harry Jacobs
Just giving you a chance, you know, a couple times in the month of July to actually say those words all together in one sentence. Meaty, beady, big and bouncy. But that's. That's where the who started their first tour of the US With Herman's Hermits and. Big day for them. And this is a surprising one. It's kind of fitting that we go from the who, who had a reputation. Keith Moon had a reputation of trashing hotel rooms. Pete Townsend had a reputation of smashing guitars. In 1973, probably before Pete Townsend ever smashed his first guitar, the Everly Brothers split up during a performance at Knott's Berry Farm, of all places, in California, Phil Everly got pissed, smashed his guitar and walked off stage. And that led to a breakup of that little duo for 10 years. Did you know Phil Everly had it in him?
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Buzz Knight
I didn't know. And it occurs to me, I wonder if a special musician who was part of the. The Everly Brothers touring band, who you encountered with some of his, let's just say, difficult tantrums, and may he rest in peace, I wonder if he was part of them at that moment. Do you know who I'm speaking of?
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Harry Jacobs
Are you talking about Warren Zevon?
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Buzz Knight
Yes, sir.
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Harry Jacobs
Warren Zevon was part of the Everly Brothers, I believe.
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Buzz Knight
So. We can look it up as we're speaking right now. He Was he was, I believe he was part of the touring band. Wow.
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Harry Jacobs
Isn't that interesting, Warren Zvon. What Buzz is referring to is that we did a show with Warren Zevon. Not to speak ill of the dead.
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Buzz Knight
No, an iconic figure for sure.
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Harry Jacobs
Iconic figure. But we did a show with him at the Hatchell in Boston. And what was interesting about Warren is that, you know, in 19, whenever, this was 94, 95, whatever year it was that we did this show, Warren Zevon was juicing at that time. There weren't many people that, that we knew in the world that were juicing fresh vegetables. And he came with his own blender. Wanted was very specific about what he wanted. We went. He had to go to Whole Foods or Traders or whatever it was back in that day, get him a whole bunch of vegetables. Yet he chain smoked cigarettes from the time he showed up at the venue for soundcheck at like 10 o' clock in the morning through the end of the show. Chain smoked like it was his job. Would only eat vegetables and chain smoke cigarettes. And he was a relentless pain in my ass. Go ahead.
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Buzz Knight
Zevon toured with the Everly Brothers for a couple of years in the early 70s, serving as their keyboard player, band leader and musical coordinator.
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Harry Jacobs
You know, multi talented guy, played guitar. We saw him play a lot of guitar when we did the show with him. But also a keyboard player. I did not know that he was part of the Everly Brothers. Good information here on this Week in music history. 1945, July 14, was the day that Jim Gordon was born. Who is Jim Gordon, you might ask? He was, he was a session drummer, a guy who was sought after, part of like the Wrecking Crew in that group. Was on Pet Sounds with the Beach Boys and served as a, as a journeyman drummer for a lot of people. Was also part of a famous band with Eric Clapton.
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Buzz Knight
Yeah, Derek and the Dominoes. Got writing credit on, on Layla. And it's really one of the most tragic stories in certainly any history, not just music history, because of his voices that he heard through his, through his life. In his head, he would, he would kill his mother and then would be in prison slash, you know, the mental hospital for the rest of his life. Died there. There's a tremendous book written by Joel Selvin. Joel was on the podcast talking about the book about Jim Gordon. And he goes into great detail about his career, his, his turbulence, his brilliance shines through in the book. And also the darkness, you know, that's the wrong term, shines through, but the darkness comes through.
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Harry Jacobs
I Don't think there's anything wrong with that term darkness. He, Jim, suffered from schizophrenia and this was, this was at a time where mental illness and mental health really wasn't spoken about. What, what's interesting is he never spoke about it.
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Buzz Knight
Right.
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Harry Jacobs
He's a guy who lived with the voices in his head and worked, you know, was working with Eric Clapton, was working with Brian Wilson, was working with so many hundreds of other people in Los Angeles and never spoke about it. He just thought, this is my lot in life. I'm going to hear these voices. And ultimately the voices, you know, caused him to, to turn and he had a break. And as you mentioned, it ended tragically. And then, you know, he, he died in prison at 77 years old.
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Buzz Knight
Yeah, it's a, it's a terrible story, but his, his musical legacy will live on.
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Harry Jacobs
Yeah, there are certain songs buzz that you can, you can guess that song in one Note. And on July 15, 1965, one of those songs was released. It was Bob Dylan's Like a Rolling Stone. It starts with that snare drum hit and then the band kicks in. I, I, I, I gotta feel like if you were to play that song, pull it up on your phone, I would know it in one beat.
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Buzz Knight
Oh yeah, it sounds good to this day, of course. And when I think of that song, I, I think of the great work of Massachusetts, current, current resident, the, the great Al Cooper part of that whole, that whole arrangement there and you know, just a song that jumps out at the, out of the speakers to this day. Certainly one of Bob's great moments to.
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Harry Jacobs
Dylan fans and non Dylan fans. I, I watched the, the movie, the, the, the biopic or the biopic, however you want to say it. I always get corrected. I always say one, one, one of my, one of the ways I pronounce, it's always wrong. So I'll give it both ways. But the movie, the movie with Timothee Chalamet, I watched it with a group of guys. Most of them weren't real Dylan fans, but they were curious to see it. And when that song comes on during the movie, everybody's tapping their feet. I look around the room and immediately they knew what it was. And you know, it's, it's just a great familiar, classic, epic song. And it was a long song. It was six minutes. Songs weren't six minutes. A lot of them in those days.
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Buzz Knight
And when you're seeing Bob, you know, perform it live, I don't care if it's now or in the past. I don't Care if it's one of Bob's great performances or when Bob is off. When that line comes around, how does it feel? Everybody would just, you know, hold their hands up and it's just. It's wonderful.
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Harry Jacobs
Great. Sing along. In 1978, the Stones some girls reached number one on the Billboard top 200. You and I have had this discussion about Some Girls, I said at one point, and I guess I still stand by it. I think it was the last great Stones album. They've had some very good albums since then. Boy, there are 10 songs on that album. Maybe eight of them or nine of them are songs you would put on a playlist and have no problem listening to. And. And that, to me, stands out as one of their great albums of all time. Ms. You drove me a little crazy at the time. Beast of Burden, because they sounded disco, but it really was progressive.
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Buzz Knight
Oh, yeah, it's. It's a. It's a great one. And so many of the songs still stand up to this day.
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Harry Jacobs
Absolutely. In 1989, Tom Petty, in a way, pulled a Bruce Springsteen where he kind of left the band. He left the Heartbreakers behind for a minute. Recorded Full Moon Fever, his first solo album, and. And he did a great job. Free Falling came out of that. Think about Free Falling in the. In the Tom Cruise Jerry Maguire movie where he was driving. You know, he's in the car singing Free Falling at the top of his lungs. Running Down a Dream was on that. That iconic lick from Mike Campbell at the beginning, the open E string. But it's one of my favorite licks to play on the guitar because it's very simple. It's just one note all the way down the neck of the guitar. It's simple, it's raucous, it's fun. Running down the Dream and Free Falling on Full Moon Fever.
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Buzz Knight
And I. I dare say Running down the Dream, one of the greatest driving songs of all time for sure as well.
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Harry Jacobs
ABSO 1956 on On July 15th, Joe Satriani was born. I never paid much attention to Joe over the years. Really. Never at all. And then I saw him with Sammy Hagar a couple months ago here in Vegas, and I was so over the top, impressed with his playing. Running through those Van Halen songs like he wrote them.
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Buzz Knight
He's.
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Harry Jacobs
He's every bit as good as Eddie Van Halen was, in my opinion.
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Buzz Knight
I think he's a guitar savant. I really do.
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Harry Jacobs
Yeah. Yeah, I would agree.
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Buzz Knight
Oh, you remember his song, by the way, that got some, some album rock airplay.
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Harry Jacobs
I.
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Buzz Knight
The One I remember was called Satch's Boogie.
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Harry Jacobs
No, I. I don't remember that. Was that in the 90s at some point?
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Buzz Knight
Check it out.
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Harry Jacobs
Yeah, I will. I'll definitely do that. July 16th. Speaking of songs with a drum beat, one note at the beginning, you can guess. Loving Spoonful released Summer in the City, and that's one that had a beat at the beginning. Just one single drum beat. And then the song starts. A fantastic song. And that was just all about summertime in the city.
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Buzz Knight
Yeah, it sounds good. It's. You know, when. When the. The summer finally breaks, at least back east, you know, when you go from spring right into the summer, it's great to crank that one up. I love it.
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Harry Jacobs
That was. That was one of those songs on the radio that every summer we would pull it and bring it into rotation on the radio station I was working at at the time. Like, you know, Memorial Day weekend. That song got. Got played and it stayed right through the weekends or right through the summer.
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Buzz Knight
I think I might go listen to it later.
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Harry Jacobs
I like it. I like the idea. 1983, July 16th. The Police's Synchronicity hit number one on the Billboard 200. Every Breath youh Take. I mean, a number of songs on that, but Every Breath youh Take was the big song on that. A lot of other great songs. Walking in your Footsteps. Synchronicity on that as well.
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Buzz Knight
I was a fan of the Synchronicity. That song in particular.
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Harry Jacobs
A diverse group of songs. When you think about the difference between Every Breath youh Take and Synchronicity and then Walking in your footstep Footsteps, those are songs that, with any other band would probably end up on three different albums at different times in their musical career. And. And these all ended up on the same album. It just showed great diversity by the Police music.
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Buzz Knight
Yeah, agree.
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Harry Jacobs
In 1981, Harry Chapin passed away on July 16th. Known famously for Cats in the Cradle. Died in a car accident. You know, I've got two Harry Chapin stories, if I may.
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Buzz Knight
You may.
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Harry Jacobs
One of them. The first was the line Harry, keep the change from the song Taxi, where Harry Chapin is the taxi driver and his passenger sue was an old girlfriend. He picks up this girlfriend, I think, in New York City, and realizes midway through the. The ride that his girlfriend sue is in the. In the back of the car. She says, how are you, Harry? How are you, Sue? The end of the ride, she gives him $20 for a 250 fare. And what does she say to him?
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Buzz Knight
Harry, keep the change.
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Harry Jacobs
I Went to high school with a guy who used to say to me, harry, keep the change. I'd be walking down the hallway, he'd say, hey, Harry, keep the change. I never knew what it meant. He had a car accident, a fatal car accident during high school. It was tragic. And a day or two after he passed away for the first time I heard that song. He would always say it to me and I said, I don't know that song. He would say, find it. It's Taxi by Harry Chapin. Find it. And it found me a couple days after his death.
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Buzz Knight
That's sweet.
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Harry Jacobs
Crazy. July 17, 1968, Yellow Submarine, the animated Beatles film, came out. Normally we do a Beatle story and I think this is epic. That's epic. It's all great. I love the Beatles. I did not love Yellow Submarine. Song was. Song was good. But that animated film, the cartoon, I just, I wasn't digging it.
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Buzz Knight
I think I just appreciated it. In the classic case of brand extension, they're like the frickin Beatles. And then they're like, okay, well let's delve into like, you know, animated films there. So I liked it just for the, you know, experimentation part, but, you know, as far as Beatle movies. Oh, it would be my third favorite. Yes.
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Harry Jacobs
Okay, your third favorite right out of the. Out of the three.
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Buzz Knight
Yeah.
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Harry Jacobs
1975, Ringo Starr, speaking of the Beatles, divorced Maureen Cox. This apparently had to do with his, you know, this turbulent post Beatles period that he went through. I think the Beatles breakup was, was hard on everyone except John. Right. John is, I think John, arguably John probably drove it and you know, the, the rest of them, I think, weren't done. My opinion.
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Buzz Knight
Yeah, I think maybe I. Look, I think when you're in the limelight and then suddenly you're trying to figure out your next steps like they were, that I think maybe there was some of that insecurity. But I think also Ringo needed to, you know, make some changes in his life at that point. And, you know, bless him, he sure did to this day.
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Harry Jacobs
But yeah, we have a. I know a guy, got a guy who knows a guy. His name is Wayne LeBeau, who lives in Framingham and he is a. Basically a professional road manager. He works with Bruce Springsteen primarily.
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Buzz Knight
He.
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Harry Jacobs
I saw him when Sammy Hagar was here not long ago, but. But the other guy he works with every time he goes out is Ringo Starr. And he, he can't say enough about what a gentleman and how great it is to work for Ringo Starr.
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Buzz Knight
I believe it. I do believe it.
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Harry Jacobs
Yeah. Ringo's just a happy dude, and Wayne.
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Harry Jacobs
It's one of those stories I. I enjoy hearing. I'll always say when I see him, tell me about Ringo. Tell me about Ringo. And he always smiles, so. July 18, 1970, Floyd performed at London's Hyde park, joined by Roy Harper and this. This was an album at the time called Adam Hart Mother. Did is this ring a bell with you? I didn't know anything about that album.
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Buzz Knight
I. I barely did, I must say. I must say that the earliest of Floyd was kind of over my head for no better way of putting it. Yeah, it was. You know, it was not mainstream. It was. It was them, I think, certainly thinking back, even to the Sid Barrett side of things, you know, it was heavily influenced by a bunch of, I don't know, accelerants, maybe. But no, was. Did not know that album for sure. And I'm sure there's someone who will debate us and say, you idiot, I know that album. And I say, bring it on.
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Harry Jacobs
Sid Barrett, speaking of.
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Buzz Knight
Of.
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Harry Jacobs
Of mental health.
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Buzz Knight
Yes.
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Harry Jacobs
You know, issues. Boy, that poor guy was just tortured.
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Buzz Knight
I know, right? I know.
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Harry Jacobs
Awful. 1980, Billy Joel's Glass Houses came out. It hit number one. You know, it was out before, obviously, July 18th, but it hit the Billboard top 200 on the 18th at number one. The big song was still rock and roll to me, but I loved you May be right, I love Sometimes A Fantasy. Those were songs that rocked. And I liked the album cover. Right.
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Buzz Knight
Oh, yeah, me too. I couldn't agree more. And I got the opportunity right before COVID to see Billy at the Park Plaza Hotel in Boston, perform at the Walden woods benefit. And it was. It was so fantastic. It was so, so wonderful, so much fun.
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Harry Jacobs
You. You know every song, right? That's. He's one of those guys where no matter how you feel about him musically, like, I can hear just the way you are. She's always a woman. The songs that were slower or you may be right, or the songs that rock and go. Boy, he. His body of music. And when you see it live, it's something else.
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Buzz Knight
I know I want to see. There's a new documentary coming out on HBO about Billy.
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Harry Jacobs
Oh, I'll be interested. You know, a lot of these are coming out. Have you. By the way, have you seen the Springsteen trailer yet for Deliver Me From Nowhere is the name. No, the trailer is amazing. It's a. It's a dark movie about him. The making of Nebraska where he was alone. You know, Bruce at one point told a story I think maybe during growing up, in the early days when he was playing live, he would say, and when I was a kid, I had a hole in my floor and it was supposed to be a vent for, for gas, for heat. And he said it was just open down in my kitchen. And my father would yell up to my room and say, turn down the goddamn guitar. Well, that story is in the trailer where John Landau is explaining to someone, listen, when Bruce was a kid, he had a hole in his floor. And what he's doing with this album is he is. He's a floor repair man. He's fixing the hole in his floor. And I think that's pretty. You know, as a Bruce. Big Bruce fan, I just, I found that very interesting to hear that come up in the movie trailer, because I knew this.
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Buzz Knight
Wow, that's wild.
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Harry Jacobs
1919 July, rather, in 1969, Honky Tonk Woman was released. That hit number one in the US on the UK charts. Raucous. Great. Another great drive and song, right?
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Buzz Knight
Oh, no doubt. And you know, I think that band, you know, is gonna have a little bit of a run in music history if, if you.
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Harry Jacobs
Yeah, they are. If you have never seen the Rolling Stones, it's expensive to do it now, but if you've never seen the Rolling Stones, they've never sounded better than, than they have now. This was a band that sounded like hell in the 70s live.
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Buzz Knight
Yeah, they figured out how to kind of, you know, enhance the, the weak spots.
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Harry Jacobs
You know what it is, Buzz, it's production value. And they learned how to play together.
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Buzz Knight
Yeah, right.
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Harry Jacobs
They, they never did that very well in the 70s. And, and around 1981, 82. In that air, in that period of time, they started to really sound good. And, and they still sound good, you know, 40 years later, as far as I'm concerned.
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Buzz Knight
Agree.
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Harry Jacobs
1987, July 19th, Springsteen played at the Berlin Wall, basically in East Berlin. And this was a monster show. 160,000 people. I believe it's his biggest crowd to date at that point in 87. Either the end of the the USA tour or during the tunnel. I think it was during the Tunnel of Love tour because that started in January of 86. Now that I think about it must.
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Buzz Knight
Have been a ruckus, a raucous event, I'm sure.
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Harry Jacobs
And the last event for the week is July 20, 1968. Iron Butterflies in a Godda de Vita was released. 17 minute song, just unheard of. Still unheard of to this day. Who's got 17 minutes? You can hear you know, you know, eight pop songs right now in 17 minutes.
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Buzz Knight
A rough listen. But as you said one time when we were talking about it, you can envision it in certain movie soundtracks, you know, in the right moment, having a perfect, you know, placement there just because it would, it would, it would fit.
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Harry Jacobs
You know, there was a, a movie prior to the Silence of the Lambs coming out that was the original Hannibal Lecter movie. And it had a couple of people of note. Brian Cox, the actor who was in succession, played Hannibal Lecter in that movie. And I can't think it will. I can't remember his name, but he played Grissom on csi. Famous television actor. He played one of the doctors that was looking at Hannibal Lecter. But during that movie, which I think they did a really good job of, of, of sharing that and telling that story, when one of the people goes off the rails in that movie, there's all this flashing light and darkness and in a Godda devita is playing in the background. And that to me is like perfect serial killer crazy man. Lights are flashing in a Godda devita comes out. It's just a complete freak out when that happens.
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Buzz Knight
I need to go into the fetal position right now.
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Harry Jacobs
It's creepy. Find it. I'll find it for you. I'll text you about it. Anyway, that's the, that's the week in music history for the week ending July 20th.
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Buzz Knight
Well, thank you, Harry Jacobs. A head spinning week, I would say. And we love going over weeks like that. These, these weeks in music history. And thanks for checking it out on the Taking a Walk podcast.
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Harry Jacobs
Please welcome aboard the Johnson family.
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