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Takin' A Walk - Music History with Buzz Knight
This Week in Music History for the week of 10-13
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Podcast Host 1
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Harry Jacobs
Foreign.
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Podcast Host 2
Welcome to the Taking a Walk podcast. This is the podcast where we love.
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Podcast Host 1
Talking about music history.
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Podcast Host 2
Delving deep. And for that we turn over to.
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Podcast Host 1
The music history desk.
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Podcast Host 2
I have a new name for him. I'm gonna duck as I say the name because as I throw it out there, I'm never sure if he likes working where I'm headed with the name or not. So we're going to turn it over to the manager of musical minutia, Harry Jacobs. What do you think of that?
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Harry Jacobs
Oh, I love that. Musical minutia. And. And mishigos, probably you could add to that as well.
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Podcast Host 2
We would credit Charles Lock Codera, the great WBCN dj for mishigas.
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Podcast Host 1
Right.
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Podcast Host 2
Remember that?
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Harry Jacobs
Absolutely. A thousand percent. I remember it was a. It was a big deal for people to get to play mishigas with. With Charles on the mattress.
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Podcast Host 2
That's right.
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Harry Jacobs
On BCN and zlx. That's right.
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Podcast Host 2
Those are the days, as they say.
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Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
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Podcast Host 2
I'm not sure what days they were, but they were the days. No, they were good days.
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Harry Jacobs
That was back when people say back in the day, that's what they're talking about. M the mattress. Bcn, zlx.
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Podcast Host 2
So, yeah. So we're going to look at music history for the week of October 13th through the 19th. And I do want to mention this to you. Very excited that we welcome a new sponsor to the program, Harry. The fine folks at Anthropic that have the Claude AI they are sponsoring taking a walk. And they love the fact that we're music lovers. They say every music lover has that moment. So when you want that curiosity, go to Claude AI. And in fact, Harry, go to Claude AI Buzz and try it for free. How's that for getting that plug in?
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Harry Jacobs
Very overtly for them, I can tell you this. I pay for it. So through Anthropic. So now I'm going to go back and cancel my subscription and re up with the code word buzz. And I use that. It's one of the sources I use to verify events that we talk about, to verify dates and history. So I love the concept of being able to use Claude and the fact that they're on board with us. Right. It's even better. It's symbiotic.
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Podcast Host 2
It is symbiotic and I. I thank them and I thank you. I don't know if they're gonna like you canceling the paid, but as Long as people go to Claude AI slash Buzz.
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Harry Jacobs
Maybe I just get. Maybe I just get another one under music maestro.
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Podcast Host 2
The master, the manager of musical minutia. All right.
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Harry Jacobs
Michigas gmail.com. anyway, October 13th, big day. The Beatles. We just don't miss a week with. Without something. Beatles. And today in 1965, they recorded Daytripper and we can work it out at Abbey Road Studios. It took them 12 hours to record each of those, you know, two and a half, three minute songs.
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Podcast Host 2
So Justin from the Cheese Shop and Concord, one of our loyal fans, he sent me this screenshot of artists with the most weeks at number one. The Beatles at 132 weeks, followed by number two. Who do you think that is?
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Harry Jacobs
You know, I don't know. I would say maybe Michael Jackson. You know, I don't know. I'm not a monster pop guy, but Michael Jackson is probably what comes to mind.
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Podcast Host 2
It's a pretty interesting list. It's Taylor Swift, 86 weeks at number two, followed by Elvis Presley at 67 weeks, followed by Garth Brooks. Oh, gosh, 52 weeks.
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Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
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Podcast Host 2
Followed by Michael Jackson at 51. And then the next one is the one that really throws me. And I will stop there. No disrespect to them, yes, but at 46 weeks, the Kingston Trio.
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Harry Jacobs
Get out. Get the f. Get the F out of here. Really? The Kingston Trio? Yeah. Can you even name a song by the Kingston Trio? Not the moment. Let me go to. Let me go to. Let me go to Claude AI and. And get you a list of Kingston Trio songs.
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Podcast Host 2
I was gonna say thanks for going.
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Harry Jacobs
Down the rabbit hole.
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Podcast Host 2
I was gonna say Puff the Magic Dragon, but I think that's Peter, Paul and Mary.
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Harry Jacobs
Yeah, you're off. You're off. Your hippie music is off.
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Podcast Host 2
Oh, that's before hippie me.
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Harry Jacobs
Yeah, this is. Thank you, Justin. By the way, I still haven't received my brie, but it's pretty interesting to me that Taylor Swift is number two to the Beatles. 86 versus 100 and whatever it is, 139. She's gonna catch them, right? She's going to catch them and she's going to surpass the Beatles. I guarantee you that's going to be something that's going to happen, you know, in. In short order.
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Podcast Host 2
Bet a slice of rare brie with Justin on that one. Okay.
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Harry Jacobs
Okay, I will, absolutely. Is your opinion maybe somewhat controversial as well? Is your opinion that Taylor Swift. Maybe not now, but it could be bigger than the Beatles, man. And there are a number of different Factors there. Right. That's not just a, a blanket. But think about it. Obviously, fan wise, music sales wise, she's probably crushed them already. Four wise, crush them. Beatles didn't, you know, weren't a big touring band. Yeah.
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Podcast Host 2
I'm thinking of the other criteria and obviously, you know, the first thing I'm drawn to is the value of the, the catalog.
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Podcast Host 1
Right.
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Podcast Host 2
I would, I would throw that in. So I would think she has a chance to surpass them at least in some of these metrics.
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Harry Jacobs
Yeah, that's a good qu. I mean, that's the, that's the research guy in you. Right. What are the metrics? What are we talking about here in terms of overall numbers? The smart question, I think, and I'm not home today, I'm on the road. Ordinarily, I'd be able to jump onto Claude and go, okay, at this moment, how many albums has she sold? How many tickets has she sold? How many, you know, whatever those other criteria are, we can look at things any way that we want and we can ask Claude to search those things comparative or compared to the Beatles. And listen, the Beatles played some big gigs, but the Beatles didn't, didn't sell out all over the world in the, in the crazy fashion that Taylor Swift has. So I think that. I think there were probably a number of things where Taylor Swift, just because of the times that we're living in, has just destroyed the Beatles on some of those fronts.
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Podcast Host 2
Yeah, they were limited on the tour front, for sure. In looking at, at Claude for this answer there, I think I need to put a better criteria in. So maybe you could, you could further, you could further stall for me at this point.
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Harry Jacobs
Absolutely, I'm happy to stall. What I'm going to do as you're doing that is I'm going to talk about a couple of other things on this day that have happened that are. That are things we don't necessarily need. A ton of comment on the. The first is that Janis Joplin's ashes were scattered on this day. The coast, California. We talked about her death not long ago. We talked about the historic recording of Mercedes Benz. Her last recording, 1970. Gone way too soon. Part of this 27 Club. And it was, you know, it was a huge hit for music. This was not a. As much as this was a great time for music. When you think about the loss of, you know, artists and, and the loss of people in our country with MLK and RFK, you know, in 68 and, you know, Janis Joplin and Jim Morrison, I Mean, this was a, this was a rough if time for us as a country on multiple levels.
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Podcast Host 2
Yeah. And these young deaths were mysterious for sure. Immediately people, I think, deferred to the notion that they were, you know, drug related. That was the first thought. And, and certainly the lifestyle was ragged and rugged, for sure. But who knows what the other, other reasons in, in many of these cases for their departure from this earth. But you know, there's. There was great sadness among the generation for those losses, for sure.
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Harry Jacobs
Listen, drugs don't come with a warning label. It's, it's bad and they're bad for a number of different reasons. But when you talk about some of the drugs that these folks were doing back in those days, heroin and other things that people just didn't understand, you know, we, this is obviously a different topic, different tangent, probably a different podcast even. But look at people like Philip Seymour Hoffman that got clean one day and then months or a year later thought, well, I can go do what I did before. And, and they overdose, right? They don't. There are no warning labels. There's no one, there's no drug counselor saying, okay, if you're going to get high, don't do this, do this and make sure that someone's with you. So you don't, you know, so you don't, you know, it's just, it's awful. It's an awful thing. It's an epidemic in our country and certainly other places too, but it is for sure.
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Podcast Host 2
I do have a little info. The ERAS tour for Taylor Swift. According to Claude, it grossed more than 2 billion in ticket sales. It was the first tour to gross 1 billion in revenue and the highest grossing tour in history. But I don't have a career total in terms of her ticket sales. But the more I think about your point, no disrespect as a lover of the Beatles, for sure, and respect Taylor for what she has, has built and continues to build. But I do think it's probably among various criteria accurate to suggest she will surpass the Beatles.
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Harry Jacobs
Yeah, and, and this is the last. My last comment.
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Podcast Host 2
And some people are probably cringing. They, they may be cringing.
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Harry Jacobs
Of course they are. I'm cringing too. I. And listen, I can't tell you the name of more than two of her songs. So I'm not a Taylor Swift fan. I appreciate it, appreciate what she does. But the reality is just that this is a different era. This is like comparing, you know, when people talk about sports, people, who's the best basketball player of all time? You know, do you look at, you know, do we go back to, you know, to the early days to go back to like Bill Russell, John Havilchek, or do you look at Michael Jordan or, or people going to say, well, LeBron is the best. It's all, you know, it's, it's era specific. There weren't, it wasn't apples and apples when Michael Jordan was playing versus LeBron playing now. Right. Different times.
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Podcast Host 2
And also adding in another analysis of. Let's think of the television landscape back when there was only, you know, three networks and the way, you know, viewership was split for, you know, late night television among the three networks, obviously, no question, you know, Johnny Carson was the king during that particular time. But those other two shows, considering what they drew, you know, that were up against Carson, pretty stellar audiences as well, you know.
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Harry Jacobs
Oh, it's amazing. Yeah, it's amazing. They did amazing work. So. 1984, buzz on October 13th, this is a historic event. Stevie Ray Vaughan performed at Austin City Limits. I don't know if you remember that show. There's video all over the place. There's an interesting thing to me that happened during that show. I always go back to the guitar because that's what I. That's my musical thing. But there was an event that happened that happens to guitar players all the time. And that was during the song Little Sister Evie Ray broke a guitar string and instead of just playing through it, you know, you can see clearly in the video, the string pops off and it goes crazy. A guitar tech walks out on stage with another Strat and. And simultaneously, Stevie takes one guitar off. The guitar tech puts the other guitar on mid song. They plug him in and he doesn't miss a beat. I've never seen anything like it. It was like, hey, can you do this? Like, that's not something you practice for. That's not.
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Podcast Host 2
He was of another. He was of another land, you know, another ilk. Yeah, I've seen similar, you know, illustrations of that, and I think it's fascinating just how you talk about improvising on the fly, right?
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Harry Jacobs
Yeah, yeah. I've never seen it other than with him. And I thought it was just unbelievable to see. October 14, 1968, Led Zeppelin performed, and they were billed as the New Yardbirds. I. I don't think I realized until I saw Becoming Led Zeppelin that they actually used the Yardbirds name for a minute. Obviously they were born out of the Yardbirds, but. Yeah, I didn't realize they. They used it.
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Podcast Host 2
I didn't either.
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Harry Jacobs
They played at Surrey University in England. And in 77, Bowie released Heroes. And I. You know, I always liked it, you know, about you. But when the Wallflowers came out with their version, I got a new appreciation for the song in general. But I always loved the song.
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Podcast Host 2
I always loved the song. I would say my appreciation grew at those moments when, you know, in some form, let's say, as a backdrop on tv to the passing of somebody that they were memorializing and then playing Heroes in the background, a montage or whatever, just kind, you know, whoever had. Had passed on at that point. I remember, I don't know, just discovering it differently, loving it differently, because I always liked it in, you know, and maybe not always the biggest Bowie fan at that time, but I. The song really did, you know, take on different meaning through tragedy, you know.
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Harry Jacobs
Yeah. I don't know that I was ever a super fan, really, ever, but there were always, you know, there's just a list of songs that you can rattle off and go, wow, that's a great song.
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Podcast Host 2
Oh, yeah.
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Harry Jacobs
Suffrage. Suffragette City, Panic in Detroit, Heroes Rebel, Rebel, Barn Burner. Right. Just. I mean, there's a bunch of, you know, great songs in that catalog.
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Podcast Host 2
That's right, yep.
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Harry Jacobs
In 1980, the talking heads released Remain in Light, and that featured Once in a Lifetime.
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Podcast Host 2
Love that song.
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Harry Jacobs
How Did I Get Here?
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Podcast Host 2
I love that, sort of. I loved having Jerry Harrison on Taking a walk, celebrating the 40th anniversary of one of the great concert films of all time. Stop making sense.
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Harry Jacobs
Yeah. What. Was there anything surprising that came out of that conversation with him?
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Podcast Host 2
Just how, you know, in the current times, just how vital he still is and excited about things that he still is. And I hadn't really focused as much until preparing for that interview about the other work that he had done with, you know, with various artists, you know, such as Live, I think is one of those artists that he. He produced. So I hadn't realized his other sort of producer work. And then the last part was surprising. I didn't really know the current still connection between he and particularly David Burn, but it sounds like they're still tight.
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Harry Jacobs
You know, I think it's great when you hear these stories of guys that are just really still connected at some level. You know, Jagger and Richards clearly are an example, you know, where they put whatever differences because there was awful atmosity. Yeah, I'm sure. Back when Keith was really drugging. But between those two guys, and, you know, they were notoriously at each other, you know, Jimmy Page talks so in such a lovely way about About Plant and John Paul Jones and. And John Bonham.
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Podcast Host 2
Yep.
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Harry Jacobs
You know, I just. I just heard something very interesting and we're going to talk about. Let's. Let me see if we have a. Another Led Zeppelin story real quick and. And, yeah, we do. So I'll get to. I got a. I got a Led Zeppelin story about what Led Zeppelin may have done after John's death, what they were planning to do before he died.
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Podcast Host 2
So I like how you're teasing. You're teasing ahead.
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Harry Jacobs
I like that little tease. And I actually went, this is funny. With Claude, it's serendipitous. But I did a little bit of research on this with. With Claude as well. With Claude. AI. So we'll talk about that in just a few minutes. October 15th, another Beatles story. Beatles made their debut, their first gig at Hamburg's Isaac Keller Club in 1960 with who playing the drums with Pete Best. Right, Pete Best. Hang on one second. We may have to pause here. I'm at Lena, she's got these two dualas and. Hey, Al Qaeda, get in the house.
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Podcast Host 2
What is it? Is it a dog? A cat?
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Harry Jacobs
Two choo chihuahuas?
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Podcast Host 2
Chihuahua.
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Harry Jacobs
Oh, they are the Al Qaeda of the dog world. And I look and I love all animals, but these dogs just want to. They have no sense of their side. They have no sense of what anything or anyone could do to them. They just want to fight. They just want to fight.
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Podcast Host 2
Do they have a sense of self, though?
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Harry Jacobs
Yeah.
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Podcast Host 1
All.
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Harry Jacobs
They are the Ms. 13 of the dog world. You don't mess with us, we mess with you. You think you're waiting for trouble. Oh, no, we are the trouble.
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Podcast Host 2
We are trouble.
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Harry Jacobs
We are the ones that knock. Anyway, so I just put those monsters inside. 1973, October 15th. Keith Richards fined for possession of cannabis in France. It's amazing to me that we were jailing people for weed.
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Podcast Host 2
Well, yeah. Now you have legal substances, legal bedding. What's next?
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Harry Jacobs
I don't know. I. I never in a million. I never thought in my lifetime that I'd be able to go to the weed store and buy gummies so that I could actually fall asleep. I never, never had a problem sleeping until I became an old man. And now. God bless the weed stores, in my opinion. God bless the power of the Gummy. 1976 Songs in the Key of Life hit number one in the US. We talked about how important that album was.
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Podcast Host 2
Oh, yeah.
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Harry Jacobs
A couple weeks back. It didn't take it very long to make it there. 1990, the Rock hall of Fame inducted the who Simon Garfunkel and the Kinks as part of that class of 1990. Big deal for all of them.
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Podcast Host 2
Well, yeah, especially the ones that were always fighting, such as the Davies Davis brothers. Davies brothers. I like, I say Davies, I think they say Davis, but it's to me it's Ray Davies.
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Harry Jacobs
Ray and Dave Davies. Right. They were at each other.
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Podcast Host 2
But don't they say Davis? Don't some people pronounce it that way?
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Harry Jacobs
They may. That's the Brits. All right. They don't know. They don't know from what they're talking about. You got two groups, by the way, of folks that are notorious for fighting. You got the Davises, if you will. And then you got Simon and Garfunkel. Oh yeah, you know, like a couple of thugs on a street corner. Yeah.
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Podcast Host 2
They've since reconciled. Well, and by the way, the who's had a couple tumbles here and there as well.
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Harry Jacobs
Yeah, they have. They. Yeah. So you got three, three groups of, of folks that didn't all get along. Right. In 1962, the Beatles actually signed their first proper recording contract with EMI at Abbey Road Studios. 68 Cream began their fail world farewell tour. They, their first stop was Oakland. And Credence officially announced their breakup in 72. So a lot. This is a very interesting week. This is a two page week for me as I sit here and look at the notes and there's really stole very little that I can eliminate. This is a long episode because a lot of stuff happened in this week. Think about it, you know, September, things are. Things are happening. Or October rather. Things are happening. People are out of the summer doldrums and albums are coming out, movies are coming out.
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Podcast Host 2
It's important they don't call you the manager of musical minutia for nothing.
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Harry Jacobs
This week was complete mishigos trying to pull this together. So yeah, manager of Minutia and Michigan. This is an interesting story. I didn't know about this. In 2001, the estates of Artemis Pyle and Ronnie Van Zant and Steve Gaines, dude, over the making of the. The movie Freebird. Did you ever see that movie Freebird?
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Podcast Host 2
Did not.
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Harry Jacobs
I think I want to see see it. I'm like, you know, when I was. When that album One More from the Road came out. I remember being at summer camp that summer and like hearing Give me Three Steps in Sweet Home Alabama for the first time on, you know, on rock radio and, and I remember just being completely enthralled with Leonard Skynard. That started it for me when I was 10 years old. And this movie, Freebird, is based in part around that period of time when they did that show at the. At the Fox Theater in Atlanta. And then there's a bunch of footage apparently shot in Florida and other places. But I'm. I'm gonna watch that movie and. And give you some. Some insight on it. I'm a huge Skynyrd fan, and I.
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Podcast Host 2
Think there's still people, you know, within that camp that think they were original members and are not considered original. So there's still some of that tussling and in fighting, not fighting.
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Harry Jacobs
Yeah, you know, yeah, there's a lot of guys. Al Cooper running around. You know, I saw him with. I think I saw Al Cooper with Marty. Marty Schwartz, one of the big guitar teachers on YouTube, showing us how to play Sweet Home Alabama as a guitar player. A rite of passage is to learn those three chords, D, C and G. And then I watched Al Cooper play it. He claims he wrote the lick. I don't know if he did or not. You know, another one of those people running around saying, I was an original member, but he plays it differently than. Than we all learned how to play it when we were kids as our first song. So, yeah, there are people running around talking a bunch of smack. Whether it's true or not, they're. They're running their mouths about it.
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Podcast Host 2
Well, I had Ricky Medlock on.
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Harry Jacobs
Oh, yeah.
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Podcast Host 2
And Ricky Medlock, still to this day, feels a sense of bitterness that when the Rock and Roll hall of Fame induction occurred, that he was not considered kind of an original member. And he. He feels he's got, you know, specific documentation to that fact. So it still stings for him. He did not min words on how he feels he's been treated, at least in terms of the. The hall of Fame.
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Harry Jacobs
That's an interesting fact to bring up. I didn't, you know, I. I guess I remember listening to the Ricky Medlock thing. What was he around in. In the beginning. In the. In the early days? Do you recall him saying, you know, for the first few albums or through Street Survivors or. I mean, Street Survivors, obviously, is the. Is the mark, right? When people say I was an original member. You were either part of that band prior to Street Survivors, when the crash happened, probably, or. Or not.
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Podcast Host 2
He was in, he was out, and then he was back in. So I think because there was some hiatus period, however long, I think he is. Wasn't treated as. As, you know, one of the original members. And according to Claude AI, the current lineup is. Is Johnny Van Zandt Ricky Medlock. And then, I gotta be honest, a bunch of people, I have no idea who they are, with all due respect. Damon Johnson. On guitar, Mark Sparky Mateka. On guitar, Michael Cardelone. His name's familiar. On drums, Keith Christopher. Bass, Peter Keys. Keyboards, Carol Chase. Backing vocals, Stacy Michelle, backing vocals. So it's pretty much Johnny and Ricky.
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Harry Jacobs
You know, the thing about that band, and there are a lot of bands, you know, you can look at bands like Chicago as an example. Who, you know, they have one. One horn player. Right. Trumpet player. Lamb.
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Podcast Host 2
Or who it is, Lee Lock.
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Harry Jacobs
Yeah. Lee Logan. That's right. And he was. He. You had him, right? I did, yeah, you did. So he. He's the one remaining member of that band. One of the things about Skynyrd that's great is Johnny Van Zant sounds just like his brother. Oh, yeah, right. So you could see Leonard Skynyrd. It's unlike seeing Journey with, oh, his name.
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Podcast Host 2
The karaoke guy.
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Harry Jacobs
The karaoke guy who's frighteningly similar to Steve Perry, but you can see that band and you can hear his brother in him. And that's what's kind of frightening to me about that, in a good way.
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Podcast Host 1
Yep.
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Harry Jacobs
With Skinner, I'm gonna go down the. I'm gonna go down the Ricky Medlock's rabbit hole. I'm gonna use Claude AI. I'm gonna do Use a couple of other sources that I have, but I'm very curious about Ricky's involvement when he says he was involved Walton. And I'm gonna go down that rabbit hole. I may or may not report back. It may be under the COVID of Michigan, but, you know, I'm gonna. I'm gonna probably drive myself a little crazy there. October 17th of 1980, Springsteen played his first concert in New Jersey after the release of the River Big Deals double albums there. This was also on the heels of. I think there were five no Nukes shows near the end of September that happened. And he was playing. If you remember watching the video and. And, you know, hearing the bootlegs from that.
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Podcast Host 2
I went to one of them. I went to one of them.
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Harry Jacobs
Did you really?
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Podcast Host 2
Yeah, I went to the Garden. Yeah.
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Harry Jacobs
Oh, you. You have the floor then. I'm. I got. I got. I. I got shit to say. As they say, you talk, it's your turn.
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Podcast Host 2
Oh, the whole. The whole experience was a complete, you know, mind blowing experience in terms of the performances. And Bruce's was no exception, obviously is one of the great performances, certainly from Bruce of.
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Podcast Host 1
Of many.
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Podcast Host 2
Right. But it was a. It was an overwhelming experience in terms of just the amount of music that you saw. But I didn't realize where you were going, that it. That that event, him playing at that event was sort of adjacent to him doing these other big dates.
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Podcast Host 1
It makes sense.
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Harry Jacobs
Yeah. And. And to me, it's interesting because he played and the music was received with such error and excitement from people. When he played the river or, you know, other songs from that album, I think maybe he played Very Darling or he played it, you know, I got to go back and look at what the set list is. I should have probably prepped this part of it better. But he played songs that people didn't know at that point, bugs that hadn't been released, that he hadn't played. And that was an also for me, a little personal piece of it. I didn't get to know Nukes, but when I met Rob Barnett the first time in 1981, I remember this like it was yesterday. He was wearing a River tour jacket that he had gotten from Bruce or from. From John or from someone he worked for Columbia. He was wearing a River pin. He had all this Bruce stuff. This was before I was really deep into Bruce. And. And that's a memory that I have, is meeting Rob Barnett on the heels of that tour. Not meeting John Landau, not meeting Max Weinberg or Roy Bitton or Bruce. I met Rob Barnett.
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Podcast Host 2
I love it.
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Harry Jacobs
That tour came out. He was the college rep at that point. He had come out of, like, you know, Boston College or something like that.
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Podcast Host 2
I had forgotten that part of his career. Wow.
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Harry Jacobs
Yeah, it would be interesting. I gotta reach out to him and say, give me a little. Give me a little bit of that story. He'd be so. He's such a good guest. You had him on. He talked about the Nirvana thing at mtv. But that guy, in my opinion, is a musicologist.
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Podcast Host 2
Oh, yeah.
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Harry Jacobs
Like, if I get. If I get hit by a truck tomorrow, you got to call Barnett. Right? You got to see if Barnett can. Can do this, because he do it a thousand times better than I could. And he's got the stories right. He lived so much of it.
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Podcast Host 2
Well, don't. Don't. Manager of musical minutia. Don't sell yourself short, please.
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Harry Jacobs
All right, October 18th. We got two more days. I'm going to blast through them. Buzz. I know we're. We're pro now that we're tight on time. It's not like radio or not like we get a hit. You know, we've probably hit the commercial breaks already. We mentioned Claude AI by The way we're going to pre promote that, we're going to be doing a little something with the Springsteen movie, if I may.
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Podcast Host 1
You may.
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Harry Jacobs
May I, May I. So there's a lot going on. The sponsors will be taken care of. They'll be well taken care of. 1966, October 18th. Jimi Hendrix. The Jimi Hendrix Experience played their first show at a. At the Olympia in Paris. I didn't know that. I didn't know they debuted in Paris. Did you?
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Podcast Host 2
Oh, no. I would have given anything to. To be there for that. Huh?
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Harry Jacobs
Oh, my gosh. Crazy. 1969 Temptations hit number one with I Can't Get Next to youo. That's one of those songs that if it comes on radio or someone. Or the iPad or ipod or someone's backyard of the party, I stop and go, hang on a second. I got to. I got to listen to this. You can't not tap your feet to that song. It's just such a. That song almost borders on rock in a sense.
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Podcast Host 2
It's one with beat. Yeah, I officially get my jiggy on when that's on.
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Harry Jacobs
But really, is that like your happy dance or what is the jiggy?
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Podcast Host 2
I just get my jiggy, man. Majiggy's on, you know.
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Harry Jacobs
You know what's funny to me is when guys like us, men of a particular age.
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Podcast Host 2
Oh, stop it.
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Harry Jacobs
Try to be hip. Oh, stop. I get my jiggy on.
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Podcast Host 2
I get my jiggy on, man.
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Harry Jacobs
And then you get your jiggy on. And. And undoubtedly someone in the crowd goes, do you want to call 91 1? Is he wearing an apple? Is he wearing an apple? Watch it. May notify the authorities.
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Podcast Host 2
He got his jiggy on, but he got his.
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Harry Jacobs
What happened to it?
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Podcast Host 2
But he.
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Harry Jacobs
He.
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Podcast Host 2
His hamstring is now got a problem.
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Harry Jacobs
We're gonna hit him with a Narcan because his jiggy came on out of the blue. 1975, Simon and Garfunkel reunited. Speaking of the. The Hatfields and McCoys of music and the Davises and the who. They got together in 1975 and performed on Saturday Night Live. They had a little reunion. That was a great performance, by the way. It was 1988, Bon Jovi released New Jersey, banged out a bunch of singles out of that in the last day of the week, October 19th. Of course, we've got. We've got three big ones. We got a Beatles related. We got a Zeppelin, we got a Bowie. 1968, Lennon and Yoko are arrested in London for possession of cannabis. The second marijuana arrest on this week in Music history on this day. We got Keith Richards on October 15th. And you know, a few days later in history, we got John and Yoko busted for weed. 1970 Led Zeppelin 3 reached number one on the UK charts. I teased this a few minutes ago. I just saw an interview with Jimmy Page where he was talking about the death of John Bonham and what may have become of Led Zeppelin after In through the Outdoor. And I found it so fascinating because I had never heard this before, that John Paul Jones had bought a big synthesizer. I forget what it's called exactly, but it's like the Moog, right? Remember the Emerson, Lake and Palmer? It was like one of those devices, a big fit, the sizer kind of device. And John Paul Jones and John Bonham and Jimmy Page were all talking about the direction that they were going next. And they were going back to heavy guitar cars, right? They. They took, I think, what you heard a little bit on in through the Outdoor with heavy keyboards, right? John. John Paul Jones's influence. And they were going to add to that synthesizers like in Cara Salambra or In the Evening. And they were going to just bust it out with the guitars again. And to me, it. It really got me excited for a minute for what could have been. Oh yeah, because think about it, you know, 68, you know, through in through the outdoor in 1980, the band really rocked really well. In through the Outdoor was different deal sonically. And to know that that's the direction they were headed in was to add the synthesizers from in through the Outdoor, which we both love that album totally. And then, you know, get back into, you know, maybe a great lick like Whole Lot of Love or Heartbreaker or Communication should break down or something comes out of whatever's next. But it would. It would be wonderful to have heard, you know, what. What could have happened. I wonder if there are tapes. What if they're stuff that maybe they recorded and left on the cutting room floor that. That we never got to hear?
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Podcast Host 2
More than likely.
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Harry Jacobs
Yeah, I.
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Podcast Host 2
Because I don't think they would be of an organization that would be releasing that stuff. I don't feel like that's their. Their M.O. unlike some other bands. So I'm sure there's stuff sitting somewhere.
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Harry Jacobs
It would be amazing if they did. My question for them would be, why not? You know, you can make a few bucks, you can sit at the desk again, you can produce some Led Zeppelin music, which to all of us would be new. And how fun would that be if we can't get to see him? If they're not going to take all the money in the world. And let's face it, there has. And I know firsthand that there was a a pile of cash offered to them to the O2 show in 2012 and know it from Rich Creswick, Brian Kobasnik who were there, who were part of that group of folks that were around them during that time that said basically, name your price and they wouldn't do it to continue on.
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Podcast Host 2
I don't, I don't think Robert Plant's gonna budge. There you go.
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Harry Jacobs
No, he's not. 1973 Bowie retired Ziggy Stardust, Bearwall Costa film release and the last story of the day it had a sad one 2003 October 19th Amy Winehouse released her debut album Frank in the United Kingdom. We had a tragic ending.
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Podcast Host 2
It sure did. What a week. I mean I I need a nap.
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Harry Jacobs
I'm exhaust. I'm standing outside in lovely Sacramento, California where by the way, it's beautiful right now as I do this and I'm on a cigar and I have some notes in front of me and a cup of coffee and I'm just, I'm in a different spot than I usually am at the Mishigas desk. So a great day.
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Podcast Host 2
It's a great week. Harry, thank you so much for this week in music history for the week of October 13th through the 19th. And we appreciate your work and we appreciate all you listening to the Taking a Walk podcast.
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Podcast Host 1
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