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Takin' A Walk - Music History with Buzz Knight
This Week in music history for the week of 10-20
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Podcast Host 1
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Buzz Knight
America is changing and so is the world. But what's happening in America isn't just a cause of global upheaval.
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Podcast Host 1
It's also a symptom of disruption that's happening everywhere.
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Buzz Knight
I'm Asma Khalid in Washington, D.C. i'm.
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Podcast Host 1
Tristan Redman in London and this is the Global Story.
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Buzz Knight
Every weekday we'll bring you a story from this intersection where the world and America meet. Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Harry Jacobs
I'm Buzz Knight. And this is the Taking a Walk podcast. And this is what we call this week in music history for the week of October 20th. And for that we go to the.
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Podcast Host 1
Maestro of music history, the maven of.
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Harry Jacobs
Music history, Harry Jacobs. Hello, Harry.
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Buzz Knight
Us. Pleasure to be here again, my friend. Pleasure to be here. And I'm not Nostradamus or. Who was the character on Johnny Carson that Johnny Carson did? Carnac Karnak. Yeah. If I were doing Carnac right now, I would say this episode is gonna be a little on the long side. We got a lot to get to. Not a lot of topics, but. But a couple of major ones. And we've got a. This is going to be an in depth, in depth episode this week.
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Harry Jacobs
I'll try to decrease my flapping just a little bit. Okay. But it's hard, as you know, for me because I'm a born flapper. I do want to highlight that one of the topics that's going to come up on this is about Bruce Springsteen's movie, Deliver Me From Nowhere. And for that, I want to thank the fine folks at Walt Disney Motion Pictures who bought some advertising on the Taking a Walk podcast. So thank them and we're happy to talk about the movie, which is very timely for the week that this will run.
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Buzz Knight
Did you ever think when you started this one, this was the little podcast that could Episode one, episode two, that you'd be uttering the words. I'd like to thank the folks at Walt Disney for their sponsorship.
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Harry Jacobs
I know, it's kind of funny. Yeah, it's kind of funny. You've been there from the beginning. You've heard all of my neuroses. Anyway, I'm going to decrease the clapping and turn it over to you.
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Buzz Knight
We got a lot to get to. Anyway, this week is the 20th. I'm actually going to roll back a couple days. I'm going to start on October 17th for the following reasons. October 17th is the date that Street Survivors was released. October 17th, 1977. Lynyrd Skynyrd. And the thing about that album is it had the flames on it, right? The band members were standing on the street. A great album, by the way, that smell. And you got that right. And just a bunch of, you know, bunch of great songs. But three days later, on October 20, 1977, it was the. The day of the plane crash. The day that that Southern rock died in a way.
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Harry Jacobs
Right?
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Buzz Knight
I mean, this is a band that. I mean, the Almonds did what they did, but. But Skinnered, for all intents and Purposes really opened up some doors that were. That were different for Southern rock, I think. And. And this was a horrible day.
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Harry Jacobs
It really was. It was a very, very dark day. And that album cover does strike you.
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Podcast Host 1
For sure, for the. For all the reasons.
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Buzz Knight
You know, I remember seeing it. You know, we see pictures of it now, but I remember seeing it in person and. And hearing what happened and thinking, oh, my gosh, it's just. It's insane. Anyway, three. Three members of the band, including Ronnie Van Zandt, passed away in that horrific crash on October 20th in 1977. Also on October 20th in 1976. And this is where we're going to spend some time. This is what I was talking about at the beginning. Where, where the Carnac thing. I predict a little bit of time. And we're going to dedicate some time to Led Zeppelin. Song Remains the Same premiered on this day in 1976. And this was an interesting film. I'm not sure the last time you watched this movie in a while, but I went back. I went back and watched it like in the last week, and I remember seeing it at the Paris Cinema in downtown Worcester, you know, when I was 10 years old, brought my sister, who was four years, like a little kid, like six or something, and she was horrified, and we were horrified. It was a frightening movie. It wasn't just a concert movie, but there was all this stuff that happened around that movie that was around mythological stuff, around fantasies, around their alter egos. Had you. Had you thought about that in. In some time? I mean, the concert film is the concert film. But think about everything else that happened around that. These, all four of these. Matter of fact, I'll say all five of these guys, because Peter Grant was involved with this. But when you watch the movie, there's all this concert footage. Obviously that happens, but this movie was this thing that took Robert Plant and. And painted him as this kind of poet and hero, I'm sure by his own doing. Jimmy Page as this mystic, John Bonham as a warrior. John Paul Jones is like the thinker. They all had these little movies and little scenes that happened within that movie. You remember that, those pieces of it.
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Harry Jacobs
I have not thought of the movie in a long time and have not, so I haven't watched it. But it's fascinating how you. You break it out because it was more than just a concert film.
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Buzz Knight
I'm a Zeppelin fan from the time I was 10 years old. I was always, always deep into the classic rock when I was a kid. And seeing that movie changed me in A way because it was scary as a 10 year old kid, right? There was stuff, there was heavy duty stuff. John Bonham played a mobster, drag racing, you know, fast cars. He was playing snooker. He looked like a troublemaker. Peter Grant played the mafia guy with the, you know, with a tommy gun and the hat. And it was just like, what is this? This is not Stairway to Heaven. This is not rock and roll or Black Dog. This is something different. Right? Yeah, go, I'm telling you, go, go back and, and watch it again. It's, it's so well worth the watch. The music is just magnificent. But there's so much that happens around it. There was so much going on with the band at that time. You remember they did a series of shows in New York City. The band got robbed. They were at the Drake Hotel and they lost $233,000 taken out of the hotel safe at the Drake. Do you remember that part of it?
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Harry Jacobs
I forgot about that. But as you're telling me now, I remember.
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Buzz Knight
Yeah, yeah. So by the way, that too, I went into the, to the inflation calculator. It's worth one, that'd be $1.4 million today. It was a, it was a whirlwind that they were rolling on. The, the thematic stuff was just so vastly different than what you would expect in a concert film. It was like they took the opportunity to give each other an assignment. Say, think about your fantasy life. What would you be? Who would you be? You know, John Paul Jones was interesting because, you know, he was an intellect, he was an intellectual. He is an intellectual, right? Very well read, very smart. And he portrayed himself in that way. They all got to design their own. I mean, I don't know the inner workings of it, but as I'm thinking about it, it's their movie. They designed it, this John Paul Jones. I, you know, I went and read a little something about this, like this dual identity and moral redemption. It was really deep. He was, he played the Masked Knight, right?
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Harry Jacobs
Crazy.
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Buzz Knight
Go, I'm telling you, go back and, and watch it. The thing about him being the Masked Knight is that he again, he's this calm, intellectual, you know, just a low key smart dude. And you know, Jimmy Page, his, his piece of this, he climbs, he climbs a mountain. And, and I want to get this right, encounters a, a robbed hermit holding a lantern. Of course, that's from, you know, the lantern from Led Zeppelin 4. Yes. And referencing this tarot card called the, the Hermit. Anyway, it's really like Paige has always had this interest in the occult. Anyway, there was all these things that are just weird and Robert Plant, like, portraying himself as a hero and you know, his search for enlightenment. You remember his son was in that movie too, when his son was just, you know, a toddler. It's just a very interesting movie beyond the music, you know, seeing it as a, as an almost 60 year old guy 50 years later. I mean, I may have seen some clips over the years, but I never went back and watched it. I'm telling you, and anyone that's a Led Zeppelin fan, it's not just a concert film, go and, and watch it. Make some comments on our, on our Instagram account, Write to us, tell us what you think, what your perception of it is. I really, and I apologize for this, but I have gone into the, the rabbit hole of the song remains the same.
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Harry Jacobs
There's no need to apologize. On this podcast for a rabbit hole.
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Buzz Knight
We both do it. There was something that happened. We both, obviously, we both have this background. For those of you that may be new, Buzz and I both worked in radio. Buzz is a famous program director and programmer of radio stations all over this great land of ours and went on to be a consultant and then realized it was time to go do something else. You, you became talent after managing these people. You started as talent. You, you spent your career managing radio stations and people. And then I remember you calling me in 2021 or 2020 saying, hey, I'm thinking about doing a podcast, taking a walk podcast. And I'm thinking, you, you want to be talented? Like, hold on a second. One second. Where are you? I'm flying. I'm booking a flight. Where are you? We need to talk.
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Harry Jacobs
You did not burst out laughing and you did not, like, somebody try to talk me out.
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Podcast Host 1
You know that somebody?
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Buzz Knight
Yeah, I know it. I know him very well.
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Harry Jacobs
No, the. An artist who used to play with a band.
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Buzz Knight
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, geez. Okay. Yeah. Pete Wolf, Yeah, he.
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Harry Jacobs
Wolf said, well, wait a minute. Why are you going to do this? We talked about it, aside from our, our podcast recording.
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Podcast Host 1
So.
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Harry Jacobs
Yes. You didn't talk me out of it. He tried to talk me out of it. And here we are today.
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Buzz Knight
Yeah. So I, you know, it's been a full circle on this, but when, when we were in radio, obviously we played a lot of Led Zeppelin. One of the things that would happen. Do you remember your, your jocks ever doing this? They would mix the studio version of Stairway to Heaven and the live version of Studio of Stairway to Heaven and they would split the song up When Robert Plant says. And the hallways echo with laughter. And then in the live version, after he sings that, he says to the crowd, does anybody remember laughter? And then, you know, Jimmy Page's electric guitar kicks in. And we would all, you know, we would do it from time to time. I think I did it, you know, at ZLX when I was working for you.
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Harry Jacobs
Oh, man, I wish. I.
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Buzz Knight
Wish I. Crazy.
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Harry Jacobs
I had a recording of that. You just reminded me of something else we used to do with Led Zeppelin. We. Do you remember the concept of. Of phasing?
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Buzz Knight
Yeah, I was just going to say, I know what you're doing. Explain this to the audience.
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Harry Jacobs
I'll try my best. So phasing was basically having two album copies of the same album and starting them at the exact same time. And at the. At a certain point on Led Zeppelin 1, when we would play the first song, which was your time is gonna come, we would. Then at a certain point in that song, we'd have one. One turntable live, and the second one was. Was. Was properly aligned. So at a certain point, we bring up Turntable 2, and they're both playing identically at the same time in complete sync. And then you're hearing this phase audio sound. Is that a terrible description?
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Buzz Knight
No, it's not. And we have. Those of us that, you know, play music, we have what's called a phaser. It's one of the pedals for a guitar. This is the same concept. It essentially your description is. Is almost accurate. To our mind, it's accurate where you play the song and you sync it up. The. Basically what happens is there's this like harmonic rhythmic thing that happens with the texture of those songs. They're. They're actually never really aligned perfectly. They're all. When they get to that phasing, they're just slightly out of alignment, and it gives you this sound that. It's like a very.
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Harry Jacobs
It's very cosmic sounding.
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Buzz Knight
Very cosmic. And. And it was pioneered in the 60s. We would do it as jocks. It was kind of a cool thing.
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Harry Jacobs
Yeah.
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Buzz Knight
So, yeah, that. But the stairway to having the live version, studio version.
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Harry Jacobs
I like your idea better than my face.
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Buzz Knight
Yeah. So at any rate, there's the. There's the Led Zeppelin thing, you know, just a. A lot going on with that movie and, you know, go back and watch it if you're a Zeppelin fan. That's all. That's all I'll say about that.
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Harry Jacobs
Thank you, Roger Ebert.
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Buzz Knight
See that? Was he the heavy one or the skinny one? Was that a fat Are you making a fat chat? Are you fat shaming me right now? No. October 21, 1976, Keith Moon, final US show with the who. They played at the Maple Leaf Garden arena in Toronto and that was, that was the end of it. Keith met his demise after that. Crazy ass drummer. Yeah.
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Harry Jacobs
What a player.
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Buzz Knight
Yeah. Played. Played to Roger Daltrey's vocal tracks. Didn't play around them. Played to them. Very unique. I've talked about this before. I've touched on it. The fact that when you go and you listen to. There's a biography that ran on Netflix for a while on who's next and you can hear you see Roger Daltrey sitting at a desk and then you see him isolate his vocal track and Keith's drumming. And it's totally different from the way anyone else plays drums as a way to enhance and go around the vocals. Keith played with Roger as he sang. Just hit the. Hit those skins hard. So a huge loss for the music and drumming world with that.
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Harry Jacobs
Absolutely.
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Buzz Knight
October 26, 1969, Led Zeppelin actually released Led Zeppelin 2. Just a, you know, a great follow up to Led Zeppelin 1. I mean, think about Heartbreaker, Living Loving Maid, Ramble on, you know, Lemons. I mean, there's a million songs. I mean the whole. That was one of those.
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Harry Jacobs
Every song.
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Buzz Knight
Yeah. Beginning to end. October 23, 1966, Jimi Hendrix recorded hey Joe in London. That was his debut. Great song. Incredible instrumental, classic rock song. Let me see what else we got here. Let's get to October 24th was. Let's get to, to, to the day that Deliver Me From Nowhere comes out.
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Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
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Harry Jacobs
And, and, and, and thank you to the nice folks at Walt Disney Motion Pictures, by the way too. Springsteen Deliver Me From Nowhere. My God, we're talking about it.
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Buzz Knight
It's amazing. I, I would, I would even take a screener, by the way, just like we did with the other Bruce documentary, even for a few days in advance, just to. I was hoping to see it at home. Yeah.
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Harry Jacobs
But I was hoping.
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Buzz Knight
You can't go anywhere right now without seeing Bruce Springsteen somewhere. Yeah.
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Harry Jacobs
Heavy push.
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Buzz Knight
So different. He's done more press for this than I think anything else.
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Podcast Host 1
Right.
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Harry Jacobs
And, and Scott Cooper, the, the director. Had you seen the Academy Award winning Crazy Heart?
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Buzz Knight
Oh, yeah. Oh, that's his movie.
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Podcast Host 1
Yes.
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Buzz Knight
I didn't realize that. Oh, yeah. What a magnificent piece of work that is. Jeff Bridges. Yes, absolutely. This, this is an unbelievable undertaking. You know, there are plenty of people that can probably easily be copied, but Bruce is an enigma. And this, this album, not Anywhere near his best selling. Right? Think about this. This came out just before the, the biggest push of his career with Born in the usa. As a matter of fact, these tracks, Born in the USA was done for Nebraska originally. This is one of those things that when you think about the, the way he recorded it on that Tascam in that home in New Jersey. I think we just saw someone, you know, CBS News or someone go into that house with him. He brought his guitar, he played in that bedroom where he recorded it. Did you see that?
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Harry Jacobs
I did not see that, no.
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Buzz Knight
He, he went in and he played. I think he might have even played Nebraska while he was in there. But they brought him into that home and he sat there with a Tascam tape deck, a little four track, and, and one engineer to, to help him eventually. There was one guy I believe that came in and helped him a little bit with, with some of the four track stuff. But it's a crazy thing to think about the fact. And he carried the cassette around in his back pocket. He carried the recording around.
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Harry Jacobs
Are you surprised about the amount of press he's doing?
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Buzz Knight
I'm completely surprised. I'm completely blown away. There has not been this much exposure, unless I'm wrong, there's not been this much Bruce Springsteen exposure since that period of 84 to 86 when he was setting the world on fire with Born in the usa. We haven't seen this much Bruce now. He's making himself more available. But in terms of publicity overall for Bruce, it's the biggest in his career, in my opinion. Even bigger than Time and Newsweek in the same week.
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Harry Jacobs
But remember too, he was, he was also. He put himself out quite a bit for the year ago, the, you know, concert film as well. He was out doing interviews for, for that too.
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Buzz Knight
It was nothing like this. This is a media onslaught right now. And he historically was just not one that wanted to talk to people.
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Podcast Host 1
Right.
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Buzz Knight
Especially the press.
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Harry Jacobs
Right.
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Buzz Knight
I saw a clip last week of him from like, you know, 1980, from the river, and he was just mumbling his way through the. It was kind of funny to see it. You know, obviously time, maturity, all that stuff. But he, you know, didn't want to be interviewed, didn't like to do that. And now he seems to enjoy it. You know, he sat down with ed Bradley at 60 Minutes years ago, did the thing with Obama. I mean, he talks to, to everyone and he is a deep thinker and you know, really just a, a captivating character in so many ways. And I feel like this may be Cliche, but I feel like, especially with Born to Run, it has been, like, the soundtrack of my life. His music has been the soundtrack of my life. I. I walked into Rich Krezwick's office at the Boston Garden when he was the general manager before I got married in. In 2003, and there was a signed Born to Run album in his office. Full album signed. And. And Rich said, you like that? I said, that was my album when I was. When I was younger. I had him sign it. He signed it in front of me, and I said, someday I. You know, I want one of those. And I got married. And about two weeks after I got married, giant box shows up at my house from the Fleet Center.
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Harry Jacobs
And.
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Buzz Knight
And I said to my wife, oh, that's a gift from Rich Creswick. And she said, oh, let's open it. What do you think it is? I said, I don't know. And I open it, and it's the sign Born to Run album that was hanging in his office at the Fleet Center.
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Harry Jacobs
Oh, wow.
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Buzz Knight
And my wife was like, what's that about? I'm like, that's the greatest gift anyone's ever given me. That's what that's about. And that hangs in my house right now. It will always hang in my house. But, you know, his music, for both of us and for so many people, has been the fabric of their lives. You know, you think about the experience of not only listening to the music, but seeing him as many times as we've seen them and. And what these songs mean, especially Nebraska. It's so stark, but it's so. I've been listening to it relentlessly, you know, in. In the car. Every time I'm out, I've been. You know, if I go and sit and smoke, I'll throw the earphones on and. And have a cigar and listen to it. I can listen to that album through and through. It's always been one of my favorites. And that track list, you know, Nebraska, Atlantic City, mansion on the hill. Johnny, highway patrolman, state trooper, used cars open all night. My father. Father's house. I think I'm. I think I'm missing all Reason to Believe.
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Podcast Host 1
Oh, yeah.
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Harry Jacobs
Remember he was doing that.
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Podcast Host 1
That.
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Harry Jacobs
That version.
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Buzz Knight
Second song on Born in the USA right after Born in the USA was a rocking version of Reason to Believe. It's an amazing album. He's such an amazing storyteller for a guy that didn't get his license until he was, like, 20 years old and never owned cars. And, you know, he. He never had A day, as he says, never worked an honest day in his life until the Broadway show he writes about cars and working and. And people. And we'll get to see, you know, a version of his dad with Stephen Graham in the movie. And he said to Stephen Graham, he said, I got to see my father again with you portraying him.
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Podcast Host 1
Wow.
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Buzz Knight
If you ever got Bruce on this podcast, I. I would be willing to bet everything that your first question. Who would you take a walk with? I'd be willing to bet he'd want to take a walk now with his dad. Yeah. At. At 75 years old.
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Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
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Buzz Knight
I mean, I don't know. I'd be dying to know. I mean, even if we could just ask him one question, who would you take a walk with? I know, right? Just one question. That's all I want, right? To John Landau. Just one question, John.
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Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
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Harry Jacobs
All right, we'll give it a try.
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Buzz Knight
So the. The album is a magnificent piece of work. I'm nervous about one thing, and that is they're releasing the full band version of it. You're aware of that? No, There was a full band recording of Nebraska that was done after he got done with it. He took it in the studio, got everybody together, and at the end they decided. He decided, quite frankly, they didn't do anything. He decides what he wants to do. And he said, I'm not releasing the band album. I'm releasing my solo album. So for. For years, for 40 years, there's been this version of Nebraska with the E Street Band that's never been put out. And I'm nervous about. I'm nervous about hearing that because I. I haven't loved a lot of the material we're hearing now, a lot of it I do, but there are some things where I scratch my head and, you know, he goes through different. Like everyone. He goes through different periods and things in his life. I'm just. I'm a fan of the 10th Avenue freeze out in Jungle Land and Born to Run, and. And, you know what I mean, the stuff that, you know, Rosalita and the stuff we all as. As Bruce nuts love. But I'm a little nervous to hear the. The band version of it. I want to, but I don't know.
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Harry Jacobs
Yeah, I understand. I understand why you feel that way, but I'm curious, but I understand why you're saying it.
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Buzz Knight
Those songs, though, every one of them that I just listed, I. I have seen him play almost all of them. Maybe not Used Car, maybe I. Maybe, you know what Used Cars. I think I saw him Play it in. In Boston at the Orpheum. Every one of them, when he plays them with the band, I love. But this is 40 years later.
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Podcast Host 1
I know.
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Buzz Knight
30 years later. So I'm a little. I'm a little nervous for. For him, I don't know. Or. And for me, I don't know why. I mean.
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Harry Jacobs
Yeah, I got it. I get it.
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Buzz Knight
There's this connection between Sean Penn and Bruce Springsteen. Are you aware of it? No. Sean Penn dated Pam, Bruce's sister.
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Harry Jacobs
Oh, okay.
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Buzz Knight
And he ended up taking. After they broke up, he ended up taking the script for the Indian Runner from. Based on Highway Patrolman because Sean was a big Springsteen fan and. And asked Bruce about having the song for it was based on, you know, on Joe and Frank. Think about that song. My name is Joe Roberts I work for the state I'm a trooper out. You know what I mean? It's like the. The whole thing in my bro. I got a brother named Frankie. Frankie ain't no good. Right. That's what the movie is based on.
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Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
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Buzz Knight
If you haven't seen the Indian Runner, those of you that are Bruce fans or just want to see a great indie kind of movie and. And buzz. I'm not sure if you've seen the Indian Runner, but. But watch the Runner.
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Podcast Host 1
Have not.
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Buzz Knight
Oh, you gotta watch it.
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Harry Jacobs
Okay.
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Buzz Knight
Especially now with this coming out. This will feed your.
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Harry Jacobs
I got a lot of assignments coming out of this episode.
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Buzz Knight
Listen, we. The Zeppelin movie, the Song Remains the Same. You got highway, you get the. The Indian Runner. You got stuff to do this week.
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Harry Jacobs
Deliver Me From Nowhere.
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Buzz Knight
I'm really looking forward to it. You brought up an interesting point as we were talking before the episode. You want to touch on. On that. Regarding what it must have been like on that set.
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Harry Jacobs
The fact that he was so. Bruce was so intensely involved that he was on set a ton. I couldn't imagine what Jeremy White. What he must have felt, how.
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Podcast Host 1
How it.
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Harry Jacobs
How it felt. The pressure of doing his craft. But having to do it with Bruce on set so frequently, that blows me away.
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Buzz Knight
It would be one thing to do the acting piece of it right, but it's a whole nother piece of it to pick up that Telecaster or that, you know, whatever guitar, whatever acoustic they're playing and play that well while the guy that made this. Those songs legendary is sitting 10ft in front of you in the same room. I can't imagine what that was like. And I love Bruce, but I would never want to pick up my guitar in front of him. I just wouldn't Right. Like.
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Harry Jacobs
Right.
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Buzz Knight
You know, I just. I just. One of those guys, you just. You wouldn't. But I. But Jeremy just embraced it. And I guess this is the thing about actors like Jeremy. They just look at it and they go, it's Bruce, and it's huge shoes to fill. But I'm gonna pick up my guitar and I'm gonna. I'm gonna work my way through looking like I'm playing it, but then I'm gonna. I'm gonna make myself sound as much like Bruce as Bruce does. When I heard that, I was with you in Connecticut. That's right. Over the summer in July or whenever we were there. And, And, And I heard it and you said, that's him.
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Harry Jacobs
Yeah, that's.
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Buzz Knight
That's. That's the act. That's Jeremy singing. I was blown away that someone could mimic like that.
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Harry Jacobs
I'm impressed with how, in all this press, that Jeremy seems to really be excited and, you know, putting himself out there and obviously with this, you know, body of work that he's. That he's created. So we know the neurosis of. Of the actor, the musician. But Jeremy seems really into this and really super grateful for the opportunity.
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Buzz Knight
Bruce is notorious for torturing not only himself, but those around him. When you look back to Wings for Wheels, which I think was the documentary on. On Born Run, and then they did another one for. For Darkness, Bruce was painful. You know, he's. He just. It's every note that can't help it. Saxophone. So he can't help no saxophone solo in Jungle Land, note by note with Clarence. I mean, people, you know, he just. He's on every single detail. And, and he makes it look. This is the beauty of what he does. He gets it down. He gets it to where it's perfect in his mind, and then he goes out and rips through it on stage, and it's like he's just taking a walk.
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Harry Jacobs
Yeah, there you go.
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Buzz Knight
Right? It's like he's just. Just doing it. I. You know, to me, I can't wait. I'm going to go see the movie. I'm probably gonna go see the movie alone. Probably gonna get some popcorn and some Milk Duds, and I'm probably just gonna see it, and I may buy another ticket and see it again. I'm just that kind of like, I. I will go down the rabbit hole because I'm that kind of Bruce nut.
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Harry Jacobs
That's awesome. I can't wait to hear your view.
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Buzz Knight
Now.
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Harry Jacobs
I did miss speak a little bit. I said, walt Disney Motion Pictures, which is correct. But really also it's 20th Century Studios. So look to be, to be clear about it, we, we thank them both.
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Buzz Knight
Let me rephrase my question then. From the beginning, did you ever think in 2020 or 2021, you're starting the little podcast that could take in a walk that you'd be thinking 20th Century Fox and Disney for their sponsorship?
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Harry Jacobs
Of course not.
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Buzz Knight
Of course happen.
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Harry Jacobs
Yeah.
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Buzz Knight
If you build it, they will come. Thank you for happy and I'm happy to be along for the ride.
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Harry Jacobs
Thank you for your support and friendship on it.
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Buzz Knight
So, so we can, we can call it right now. I got a couple of, I got a couple of quick things if you want for the, for the last couple days. Or we could just call it with that.
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Harry Jacobs
I think we call it with Bruce as the final piece. Great coverage on gets me further excited for it and I love celebrating the music with you of Bruce. We've been part of it individually and together and we'll continue to be. So thank you for that.
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Buzz Knight
Absolutely.
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Harry Jacobs
And that's the look at the week of October 20th.
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Podcast Host 1
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Buzz Knight
Yes.
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Harry Jacobs
Right.
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Buzz Knight
Yeah.
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Podcast Host 1
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Buzz Knight
Yeah. Yep.
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Harry Jacobs
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