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Foreign the host of the Taking a Walk podcast. And let's take a look at this week in music history. For the week of February 24th, we go to the music history desk. To my friend Harry Jacobs, former radio programmer, radio personality, media executive, podcaster, music.
Harry Jacobs
Fan and chief cook and bottle washer, Harley Davidson enthusiast.
Host
Perfect.
Harry Jacobs
Add to that list.
Host
Welcome, Harry. Nice to see you again.
Harry Jacobs
Same here. Appreciate you. 1992. This was the day that Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love were Married in Hawaii. She's. She's a bit of a complicated, right? You check the box on complicated. You describe your personality. Like you could check the box for moody or grumpy or nice or whatever. Complicated. I'd be checking that box for her.
Host
Or when you don't want to commit, you go, Interesting. Yeah, interesting.
Harry Jacobs
There you go. I got nothing. My mother said, you know, you don't have anything nice to say, Harry.
Host
Interesting. Yeah. I think she's still a piece of work, too, from what I gather.
Harry Jacobs
There's no question that she is. I saw her once here in Vegas. I don't know if she's sober now, but she sure as shit wasn't anything that resembled sober when I saw her. And she was stumbling around, by the way. She's. She's big. She's tall.
Host
Oh, really?
Harry Jacobs
She was wearing heels, and she was taller than I am. And again, I'm. You know, I'm six feet over six. I was over six feet at one point.
Host
Were you frightened of her?
Harry Jacobs
The way she was moving, the ferocity with which she moved? Buzz. It was. Was pretty intimidating. I get out of the way.
Host
You think she could have taken you out in a tussle?
Harry Jacobs
There's not a chance. I'd have beat her ass. But. No, I'm kidding. I would never hit a woman. Yes, she would have taken. I would have had my hands up and go. I don't. I'm just kidding. I. I don't want this.
Host
Who would win in a fight between Courtney Love and your friend Mike Tyson?
Harry Jacobs
Listen, at this point, I think Courtney Love wins. I love Mike. I hope he doesn't hear this, because he'll kill me, and I'm still frightened of him no matter what, but I think Courtney wins.
Host
Oh, my God, Mike, we love you. You know that.
Harry Jacobs
Yeah. In 1998, Elton John was knighted by Queen Elizabeth for all the work that, you know, he has done for his music, for his charitable work, and. And he became Sir Elton John.
Host
Do you get that Royal Family stuff, though?
Harry Jacobs
I don't.
Host
I don't either. I mean, I love Elton, and I appreciate the award he got for his charitable services. Don't get me wrong, but I don't get the Royal Family stuff at all.
Harry Jacobs
You know, there's so much drama. I try to, you know, as much as possible. I try to stay away from TMZ and the garbage and the gossip and what's going on with Harry and Megan and, you know, all of that. I say that, and then I'm. I'm literally on the other screen. I've got a story up from TMZ about Elton's meltdown while he was recording some new video last week. And he's screaming and crying and f bombing everywhere. He's a. He's a bit of a diva.
Host
Yes, he is.
Harry Jacobs
By the way, favorite Elton John song is Ticking. Do you know Ticking?
Host
Yes. Good deep cut.
Harry Jacobs
Caribou, 1973 or something. It's about lyrics in that song. I mean, it's just a. And it's just Elton and the piano and the. And the way the song fades out at the end, there's like a 90 second drone, like there's a synthesizer in the song and it just goes away. Listen to Ticking. If you're an Elton fan, especially the Pre Captain Kangaroo days.
Host
Well, I'm sensing a little Elton John rabbit hole that the wife and I will go down musically maybe tonight because, boy, you can go back into so much great music. You know, Burned down the mission, my God, I mean, country comfort, I mean grace. So many gray seal. I mean, God, what a incredible.
Harry Jacobs
Some funk of your own. Feel like a bullet in the gun of Robert Ford. I mean, if you put together an Elton John playlist, you know, again, pre. You know, ninth. You know, Pre.
Host
Kiss the Bride, you know, Captain Kangaroo, you said. I never heard that, but okay, well.
Harry Jacobs
Tell me he doesn't look like Captain Kangaroo.
Host
I thought you were talking about his album called Captain Kangaroo.
Harry Jacobs
Captain Fantastic. Sorry, Pre. Pre. I'm still standing or Kiss the Bride and there's a lot I would go down that rabbit hole and let us report back on that for sure.
Host
All right, that sounds good.
Harry Jacobs
Next topic of discussion. 23rd Grammy Awards were held on this day in 1991, and the guy that ended up winning record of the year was Christopher Cross. And man, I remember sailing. Ride like the wind, Ride like the Wind. I always loved. I always thought that. That, you know, was a fantastic song. Obviously Michael McDonald was on that and. And Christopher's had this incredible resurgence with the yacht rock special that came out. He's actually heading back out on the road with Toto this year. What's your position on Christopher Cross?
Host
Oh, I love those songs. I'm not gonna be embarrassed to tell you. I'm a schlep for a lot of those yacht rock soft rock songs. Yeah, I. I'm, you know, no apologies. I mean, you know, a channel I listen to frequently on SiriusXM. The Bridge. I mean, no apologies at all.
Harry Jacobs
Oh, listen, there's something to be said. Springsteen says this. There's something to be said for a great pop record. Oh, yeah, there just is. You know what I mean? I'm, I'm the same way. I have a, a yacht rock playlist that, you know, I'm embarrassed to say, you know, to name some of the artists that are on there. But a catchy song is a catchy song at the end of the day. You know, 1975 or 76 or 80 or whatever. I was a kid, I was, you know, 15 years old or whatever. I listened to, you know, Pro FM in Providence and I was also listening to BCN and aaf. I, I got a variety of different music.
Host
Yeah, good music. Good music. Ultimately.
Harry Jacobs
Absolutely. February 26, 1932, Johnny Cash was born in Kingsland, Arkansas. Probably one of the original rebels of music.
Host
Oh yeah. And I'm going to throw a movie at you if you haven't seen it. A documentary.
Harry Jacobs
Oh, you're going.
Host
This one was actually recommended by Jelly Roll and I hadn't, I hadn't seen it and then watched it and absolutely loved it. Tricky Dick and the man in Black is spectacular. If you haven't seen that Richard Nixon Johnny Cash story SL documentary. Really amazing.
Harry Jacobs
I just grabbed my notepad, I'm going to throw it on there. I'm going to try to find that this weekend because I am getting it. The older I get, the more I'm getting into Johnny Cash. So I, I'll definitely check that out. And, and this, this next story. As I was putting this together for this week and I saw this story, you know, at first I was afraid, I was petrified not knowing how you'd respond to this. But in, Excuse me, but in 1980, I will survive by Gloria Gaynor won her first and only Grammy Award for the best disco recording. This song went on to be an anthem around the globe for women.
Host
Yeah, and it's a, it's an anthem of, you know, redemption and healing as well in so many regards. If you had asked me about that one in, you know, 1981 or something, I probably, if we were on the phone would have hung up on you. Because even though back to my earlier statement, good music is good music, we were, I was a bit of a, so much of a, a rock based purist that anything that veered off of that, I was like, but I feel differently about it now.
Harry Jacobs
It was okay to, you know, to be judgy back then. I remember, you know, rock radio stations having disco destruction parties. Bring your disco records down and, and we'll burn them, we'll put them on fire, we'll have a big burn or we'll throw them in the dumpster, you know, whatever. There was a lot of judgment.
Host
A lot of judgment. And maybe incorrectly, for a lot of reasons.
Harry Jacobs
So I think that's a great. So again, this is another one where I'd say, boy, if I could play three seconds of a song and say, all right, Buzz, this next story is about this song. Here's a clip. What is it? Name that tune in three seconds. Yeah, you would. You would do it.
Host
Oh, yeah.
Harry Jacobs
1983, the final episode of MASH aired. Most watched television show in history at the time. 100 million viewers to that show in.
Host
The era when there was only three networks. Right?
Harry Jacobs
Yeah. Television, you know, you wanted to change the channel, you had to get your ass off the couch.
Host
That's right.
Harry Jacobs
Those were awful days. Those are bad. Those were dark times.
Host
Very dark.
Harry Jacobs
You know, I can control my fire stick from my phone. I don't even need the remote.
Host
Right.
Harry Jacobs
My phone and change the channel. It's bad. 1969, March 1st. This is a good one, Buzz. Jim Morrison arrested on stage in Miami, charged with lewd and lascivious behavior, which would later lead to a notorious trial in Florida.
Host
Jim Morrison like, like whipping something out. I'm shocked. Harry.
Harry Jacobs
He had this problem with his schmeckle where he couldn't keep his hand off of it and he couldn't stop exposing it.
Host
Yeah, yeah. I wonder where that complex came from.
Harry Jacobs
I don't know, but those are tortured artists. For a definition of schmeckle, go ahead. It's S C H M E C K L. Google it, you'll know what it means. It's a Yiddish expression for Rebecca, as we say back in Boston. 1994, Nirvana actually played their final concert in Munich. The last time Kurt Cobain would perform publicly before he. He died and you know, in April, in 1994. I'm sure we'll talk more about him during that week in April, on. On this week. But this was their last performance.
Host
Incredible, incredible legacy.
Harry Jacobs
Last story for the day. 1984. This is Spinal Tap, the mockumentary directed by Rob Reiner about this fictional British heavy metal band, Spinal Tap. It came out. What a movie.
Host
That was a masterpiece. To this day, and one of the best pieces of news that I got in 2024 was confirmation that there will be a follow up movie to Spinal Tap, a redo, an update, whatever you want to call it. And I was able to find that out because I was with the great photographer Henry Diltz in la and Henry Said in our episode, go check out the episode with Henry. He's amazing that when we were together a week or two after, he was going to be heading down to New Orleans and he was going to be with all the Spinal Tap band members, shooting them for an album cover scene or something. I said, are you going to end up in the movie, Henry? He said, I have no idea. He goes, I expect I'll be on the cutting floor, but it'll be fun to be with them. And he was interacting, like setting all this up. He told me through Rob Reiner's wife. So I haven't heard a release date on it at this point. I had heard it's going to be 2025, but I can't wait.
Harry Jacobs
I'll give it to you right now. Spring of 2025. Rob Reiner confirms that, that this is Spinal Tap 2, or whatever they're going to call it, or the sequel is this spring.
Host
Oh, and hopefully they'll be out doing a promo tour, because I would love to talk to anybody from that. Rob Reiner, of course, but anybody involved with it, I would definitely want to talk to. And by the way, Harry, that might be something that gets me off of my couch to go to the movie theater to actually see it.
Harry Jacobs
Well, this would be a monument.
Host
Historic. It'd be historic.
Harry Jacobs
Yeah. This would absolutely be historic. Now, I will tell you this. If you're looking for someone to book on the show, Harry Shearer is a friend of our friend Rob Barnett. I would bet Barnett would reach out for you. Barnett's been a guest on this show, matter of fact, talking about Nirvana and mtv. Rob was a big executive at mtv. Little plug for Rob. Come on, Rob, do the right thing and get Rob to help you get to Harry Shearer.
Host
I would love to talk to Harry Shearer. I'd love to talk to anybody associated with it, anybody at all. But one of my fav. Favorite movies and favorite groups of people are those. Those characters from the Mockumentaries.
Harry Jacobs
Well, there you go, Buzz. That's it. My work for the week is done.
Host
Well, thanks, Harry, for another look at music history for the week of February 24th on the taking a Walk podcast. And thanks for checking out the Taking a Walk podcast. We are proudly part of the Iheart Podcast Network.
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Podcast Summary: "Taking a Walk" Episode – This Week in Music History (February 24, 2025)
Introduction
In this episode of the "Taking a Walk" Music History on Foot podcast, hosted by Buzz Knight of iHeartPodcasts, Buzz teams up with his guest, Harry Jacobs— a former radio programmer, media executive, podcaster, and passionate music enthusiast—to explore noteworthy events in music history that coincided with the week of February 24th. The duo delves into significant milestones, intriguing anecdotes, and the enduring legacy of influential artists, providing listeners with a comprehensive and engaging narrative of the music scene over the decades.
**1. Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love’s Marriage (1992)
Discussion Highlights:
Marriage Overview: Harry Jacobs opens the discussion by highlighting the 1992 marriage of iconic grunge musician Kurt Cobain to Courtney Love in Hawaii.
Personality Insights: Jacobs humorously describes Love as "complicated," revealing layers of her personality that contribute to her enigmatic persona. He shares a personal anecdote about encountering Love in Las Vegas, portraying her as a formidable and charismatic presence.
Notable Quotes:
Harry Jacobs: “She’s a bit of a complicated, right? You check the box on complicated. You describe your personality.” [02:33]
Harry Jacobs: “I saw her once here in Vegas. I don’t know if she’s sober now, but she sure as shit wasn’t anything that resembled sober when I saw her.” [03:11]
**2. Elton John Knighted by Queen Elizabeth (1998)
Discussion Highlights:
Recognition: The duo discusses Elton John's knighthood in 1998, awarded for his contributions to music and charitable efforts.
Personal Reflections: Jacobs and Buzz express admiration for Elton’s artistry while also critiquing the Royal Family's ceremonial aspects. They touch upon Elton's reputation as a "diva" and his emotional performances.
Favorite Song Spotlight: Jacobs recommends “Ticking” from Elton’s 1973 album "Caribou," emphasizing its lyrical depth and musical composition.
Notable Quotes:
Harry Jacobs: “By the way, favorite Elton John song is Ticking. Do you know Ticking?” [05:24]
Buzz Knight: “I think she’s still a piece of work, too, from what I gather.” [04:07]
**3. 23rd Grammy Awards: Christopher Cross Wins Record of the Year (1991)
Discussion Highlights:
Award Winner: Harry Jacobs reminisces about Christopher Cross winning Record of the Year for "Sailing" at the 23rd Grammy Awards.
Genre Appreciation: The conversation shifts to the yacht rock genre, with both hosts acknowledging the catchy and melodious nature of such pop records, despite earlier purist reservations.
Evolving Tastes: Jacobs reflects on his personal evolution from being a rock purist to appreciating diverse music genres, highlighting the importance of enjoying good music regardless of its category.
Notable Quotes:
Harry Jacobs: “There’s something to be said for a great pop record. Oh, yeah, there just is.” [08:00]
Buzz Knight: “I’m a schlep for a lot of those yacht rock soft rock songs.” [07:39]
**4. Johnny Cash's Birthday and Legacy (February 26, 1932)
Discussion Highlights:
Celebration: The hosts honor Johnny Cash's legacy on his birthday, acknowledging him as a rebellious and influential figure in music.
Documentary Recommendation: Buzz recommends the documentary "Tricky Dick and the Man in Black," which explores Cash’s life and his interactions with political figures like Richard Nixon.
Personal Connection: Jacobs shares his growing appreciation for Cash’s work, expressing intent to watch the documentary.
Notable Quotes:
Buzz Knight: “This one was actually recommended by Jelly Roll and I hadn’t seen it and then watched it and absolutely loved it.” [08:51]
Harry Jacobs: “The older I get, the more I’m getting into Johnny Cash.” [09:20]
**5. Gloria Gaynor’s "I Will Survive" Wins Best Disco Recording (1980)
Discussion Highlights:
Award Significance: Jacobs highlights Gloria Gaynor’s "I Will Survive" winning Best Disco Recording at the Grammys, emphasizing its global impact as an anthem for women.
Cultural Shift: The hosts discuss the initial backlash against disco, including destructive events like "disco destruction parties," and how perceptions have shifted over time.
Enduring Message: They reflect on the song's themes of redemption and resilience, celebrating its lasting relevance.
Notable Quotes:
Buzz Knight: “If you had asked me about that one in, you know, 1981 or something, I probably, if we were on the phone would have hung up on you.” [10:03]
Harry Jacobs: “A catchy song is a catchy song at the end of the day.” [08:34]
**6. Final Episode of MAS*H Airs (1983)
Discussion Highlights:
Historical Milestone: Jacobs marks the final episode of the beloved television show MAS*H, which aired in 1983 and was the most-watched TV show at the time with 100 million viewers.
Cultural Context: They reminisce about the era of limited television networks and the collective viewing experience, contrasting it with today's fragmented media landscape.
Notable Quotes:
Harry Jacobs: “Most watched television show in history at the time. 100 million viewers to that show in...” [11:17]
Buzz Knight: “You wanted to change the channel, you had to get your ass off the couch.” [11:28]
**7. Jim Morrison’s On-Stage Arrest (March 1, 1969)
Discussion Highlights:
Controversy: Jacobs recounts the infamous incident where Jim Morrison, lead singer of The Doors, was arrested on stage in Miami for lewd and lascivious behavior.
Impact on Legacy: They discuss how such rebellious acts contributed to Morrison’s image as a tortured and provocative artist.
Notable Quotes:
Harry Jacobs: “Jim Morrison like, like whipping something out. I’m shocked, Harry.” [12:04]
Buzz Knight: “Yeah, yeah. I wonder where that complex came from.” [12:15]
**8. Nirvana’s Final Concert in Munich (1994)
Discussion Highlights:
End of an Era: The hosts remember Nirvana’s last performance in Munich in 1994, marking the final public appearance of Kurt Cobain before his untimely death.
Legacy Reflections: They touch upon Nirvana’s immense impact on the music world and Cobain’s enduring legacy.
Notable Quotes:
Harry Jacobs: “1994, Nirvana actually played their final concert in Munich. The last time Kurt Cobain would perform publicly before he. He died and you know, in April, in 1994.” [12:18]
Buzz Knight: “Incredible, incredible legacy.” [12:52]
**9. Release of "Spinal Tap" Mockumentary and Upcoming Sequel (1984 & 2025)
Discussion Highlights:
Original Release: Jacobs and Buzz celebrate the release of "Spinal Tap" in 1984, a groundbreaking mockumentary directed by Rob Reiner about a fictional British heavy metal band.
Sequel Anticipation: Excitement builds as they announce the upcoming sequel scheduled for Spring 2025, sharing insider information about potential appearances and promotions.
Future Guest Aspirations: Buzz expresses his enthusiasm for interviewing actors and creators involved in the sequel, highlighting the documentary’s lasting influence.
Notable Quotes:
Buzz Knight: “One of the best pieces of news that I got in 2024 was confirmation that there will be a follow-up movie to Spinal Tap.” [13:06]
Harry Jacobs: “This would absolutely be historic.” [14:18]
Conclusion
Buzz Knight and Harry Jacobs wrap up the episode by reflecting on the rich tapestry of music history covered, from monumental marriages and award recognitions to legendary performances and cinematic mockumentaries. Their dynamic conversation not only highlights pivotal moments but also personal anecdotes and evolving perspectives on music genres. This episode serves as a nostalgic yet insightful journey for both long-time music aficionados and new listeners eager to explore the intricate stories behind their favorite artists and songs.
Additional Notes:
Upcoming Content: The hosts hint at future episodes, including deeper dives into Elton John’s discography and broader discussions about influential music movements.
Engagement Invitation: Listeners are encouraged to check out previous episodes, such as the one featuring photographer Henry Diltz, and stay tuned for updates on upcoming projects like the "Spinal Tap" sequel.
End of Summary