In this episode, I'm joined by Hayley David Wilson, founder of Money Rebel, a business development and education hub for women entrepreneurs. Hayley spent nearly a decade scaling a customized cleaning company from a college dorm room in Iowa before walking away at its peak to build something that checked more than just the money box.

We talk about what it really looks like to leave something that's working, the slow realization that a business can be profitable and still feel completely wrong, and what she calls "decentering money" — and why it's not as scary as it sounds.

We also get into:

The Liquid Death rabbit hole and why the dumbest idea is sometimes the best one
How a commercial client bailing a week before their contract changed everything
Staring out the window with coffee in silence as the ultimate flex of a toddler mom
Why Frozen 3 is basically a masterclass in patience, trust, and long-game thinking

If you've ever opened a check, felt nothing, and quietly wondered what that means, this one's for you.

Connect with Hayley David Wilson:

Website: moneyrebelco.com

Instagram: @themoneyrebel

Podcast: Bad for Business

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