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Episode Summary: Tales From The Lot, Ep9 – "Untethered From Time – 6/7/91 Deer Creek"

Host: Will
Date: January 25, 2022
Main Theme:
In this solo, “mini” episode, Will recounts his first Grateful Dead show: June 7, 1991 at Deer Creek. He takes listeners through his personal journey—how he found the Dead, his impressions of the lot scene, psychedelic initiation, memories from the show itself, and how the experience changed him as both a music fan and a person.

1. Discovering Music & The Grateful Dead (02:30–05:50)

Musical Roots:
Will explains his background—music was a vital part of his childhood, influenced first by ‘70s pop, disco, soul and, thanks to his aunt, classic rock like Dylan, The Beatles, The Allman Brothers, and The Outlaws.
- “As a kid in the 70s, the beat and groove of disco and soul and funk were everywhere on pop radio… my aunt was turning me on to Bob Dylan and the Beatles and the Almonds and her personal favorite, the Outlaws.” (02:25)
Finding Inspiration:
By the late 80s, Will was playing in bands, feeling “starved for new inspiration” in small-town Indiana. Prince’s multi-instrumentalism inspired him to create solo albums as the Rude Nephew Orchestra.
First Contact with the Dead:
- Touch of Gray had some appeal, but the Dead’s live tapes were confusing at first—
  “The tapes he played in the car, with the hiss and the crowd noise and the raspy Jerry lyrics… That’s not how Aerosmith or Rush or Guns N’ Roses did it… But I agreed that if he would buy my ticket, I would go.” (05:10)

2. The Deer Creek Show: First Impressions & Letting Go (05:51–13:00)

Getting Tickets & The Crowd
- Will recalls waiting in line at Karma Records, the local Ticketmaster:
  “I have sort of a faded memory of standing in line at Karma Records to get my tickets for that show…wondering who the hell these people were and where did they come from in my little town… I had certainly not seen anybody looking or smelling like they did.” (06:30)
Lot Scene Initiation:
- Pre-show, Will explores the Deer Creek lot, fascinated by the scene, buying nothing but observing everything:
  “I remember walking around and just, you know, asking a lot of questions. Why that guy’s got his finger up? What’s with all the drums? Why do people keep whispering in my ear as I walk by them? Yeah, it was a learning day for sure.” (07:15)
Psychedelic Christening:
- Will and his friend Jay take “a couple of tabs of Orange Sunshine” while queueing, perfectly timed for a first Dead show experience:
  “…it was definitely the perfect place for it. We settled into the lawn and…I don’t remember too much after that. Just sort of flashes and feelings and images, really.” (08:22)

3. Into the Show: Fleeting Memories, Profound Moments (08:50–14:00)

Highlights & Vivid Impressions:
- The opening notes of “Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo” and the crowd’s surge set the scene.
- “The first few notes of Half Step and…the crowd reaction. I remember Little Red Rooster and the bright lights shining as the lyrics ‘Sometimes the lights are shining on me,’ which were lyrics that I knew for some reason at the time and couldn’t put my finger on it.” (09:30)
Drums, Space, and ‘Becoming Untethered’:
- Jay disappears as “Drums” starts.
  “Jay says, meet me at the car afterwards. And he was gone, like fucking Santa Claus with a snap.” (10:00)
- “Drums starts, and I think I could feel my brain melting. And then Space started, and it was definitely time for me just to sit, catch my breath…” (10:14)
Transcendent Jerry Ballad:
- “Standing on the Moon” strikes deep:
  “That was a moment when it really connected and I could see the power of a Jerry ballad… still to this day, that’s probably my favorite Jerry ballad. But you know, that’s hard to say.” (11:00)
Euphoria in the Encore:
- During “Sugar Magnolia/Sunshine Daydream,” Will feels a profound disconnection from time, a classic psychedelic concert moment:
  “…becoming untethered from time in those final Sunshine Daydream choruses of Sugar Magnolia and thinking, yeah, I’m going to be doing this again a lot.” (12:23)

4. Aftermath & The Enduring Impact (13:45–15:00)

Changed Forever:
- Finding his way back to the car, Will recognizes he’s had a pivotal experience:
  “I did find my way back to the car that night a changed person…” (13:50)
A Tape and a Portal:
- Jay gifts him a custom Grateful Dead show tape—12/16/86 Oakland Coliseum—decorated, which Will listens to as the acid wears off:
  “It was unique and very cool. And I faded off the sunshine in bed that night to this very strange song listed on the tape as ‘Estimated.’” (14:14)

5. Notable Quotes

Musical Roots:
“As a kid in the 70s, the beat and groove of disco and soul and funk were everywhere…my aunt was turning me on to Dylan and the Beatles…” (02:25)
Deadhead Culture Curiosity:
“Why that guy’s got his finger up? What’s with all the drums? Why do people keep whispering in my ear as I walk by them?” (07:15)
First Psychedelic Show:
“Drums starts and I think I could feel my brain melting. And then space started, and it was definitely time for me just to sit, catch my breath…” (10:14)
Connection to the Dead:
“Standing on the Moon happened and that was a moment when it really connected and I could see the power of a Jerry ballad.” (11:00)
Conversion Moment:
“Becoming untethered from time…thinking, yeah, I’m going to be doing this again a lot.” (12:23)

6. Tone and Style

Will’s storytelling is candid, nostalgic, and lightly self-deprecating, evocative of the Deadhead tradition—open-hearted, humorous, and centered on personal transformation. His story moves from skepticism to deep appreciation, mirroring many fans’ initiation into the Dead’s community.

7. Episode Flow (with Key Timestamps)

02:30: Childhood music influences
05:10: First exposure to Grateful Dead and skepticism
06:30: Buying tickets, encountering Deadhead culture
07:15: Exploring the lot, culture shock
08:22: First acid trip at a show
09:30: “Half Step” and first powerful crowd moment
10:14: “Drums,” “Space,” psychedelic peak, friend disappears
11:00: “Standing on the Moon,” emotional resonance
12:23: “Sunshine Daydream,” out-of-time experience, personal transformation
13:50: After-show, receiving the tape, impact lingers

8. Final Thoughts

Will’s retelling of his first Grateful Dead show captures the essence of the Grateful Dead’s live experience: uncertainty, awe, loss of ego, and an eventual sense of belonging to something mysterious and beautiful. The episode stands as both memoir and a love letter to the power of music, community, and serendipitous adventure.

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This episode of tales from the lot is sponsored by Shakedown T shirts.com with unique lot style T shirts, license plate frames, coffee mugs and all sorts of things for Grateful Dead, Fish, Zappa, panic and more. ShakeDownT Shirts.com where all US orders over $35 ship free. And just for Tales from the Lot, listeners use the code Lot20 for 20% off of any order. That's Lot2.0. Tales from the Lot Episode 9 Untethered from Time Just me here today talking about my first 6791 at Deer Creek. First of all, thanks so much for listening to Tales from the Lot. I'm truly grateful for the responses and to everyone who's listened in this sort of mini episode. I'll be sharing my experience of seeing the Grateful dead for the first time at Deer Creek on 6791. And if you've gotten this far, you've undoubtedly heard some of the story before and I'll probably share some of it again. But first things first. Did you know that you could also watch Tales from the lot on YouTube? I have a YouTube channel and you can go there and subscribe it and if you prefer watching the show rather than listen, you can do that. I also have a Facebook page if you want to be notified of when new episodes are released. You can go over there and like the page and you'll get that. You can also just email me and say hey at willails from the lot.org that's where I also take, you know, request if you want to be on the podcast. Just send me your story there and you know, we'll get you on the show and tell your story. So how did I find the Grateful Dead? Growing up, music was always a very important part of my life. As a kid in the 70s, the beat and groove of disco and soul and funk were everywhere on pop radio and at the same time my aunt was turning me on to Bob Dylan and the Beatles and the Almonds and her personal favorite the Outlaws. And then later as the 80s hit, I discovered Prince and his ability to play all the instruments on his albums, and this was a great inspiration to me. It led directly to me playing all the instruments for my solo albums, which I release under the Rude Nephew Orchestra. You can go out there and search that if you want. By the late 80s I was playing in bands, which I still do to this day, and at the time I was starved for new inspiration and being in central Indiana, there was not a lot of musical inspiration. 1991 comes around and my buddy, who we'll call Jay for now, comes back from military school talking about the Grateful Dead and how I should go with him when they come to Deer Creek. I was familiar with Touch of Gray. I liked the video. The song was just okay. And the tapes he played in the car with the hiss and the crowd noise and the raspy Jerry lyrics and the. And the weird sound effects and drum sections. I. I didn't know about this stuff. That's not how Aerosmith or Rush or Guns N Roses did it when I went to see them. But I agreed that if he would buy my ticket, I would go. I have sort of a faded memory of standing in line at Karma Records to get my tickets for that show. That's where the Ticketmaster Outlet Outlet was in my town and wondering who the hell these people were and where did they come from in my little town, because I. I had certainly not seen anybody looking or smelling like they did. So the day arrives, we get to Deer Creek. And having been to Deer Creek 10 times or so prior to this, I was surprised by what I saw. I remember it was a great day. It wasn't that hot, you know, especially for June in Indiana. I'm not certain I bought anything a lot, but I was definitely intrigued at this point. I remember walking around and just, you know, asking a lot of questions. Why that guy's got his finger up. What's with all the drums? Why do people keep whispering in my ear as I walk by them? Yeah, it was a. It was a learning day for sure. So Jay had a couple of tabs of Orange Sunshine, and as we queued in line to enter, we. We downed those. And it's my first time, and. And it was definitely the perfect place for it. We settled into the lawn and. And I don't remember too much after that. Just sort of flashes and feelings and images, really. The first few notes of Half Step and. And the crowd reaction. I remember Little Red Rooster and the bright lights shining as the lyrics. Sometimes the lights are shining on me, which were lyrics that I knew for some reason at the time and couldn't put my finger on it. Then drum starts and Jay says, meet me at the car afterwards. And he was gone, like fucking Santa Claus with a snap. Just out and, you know, drum starts, and I think I could feel my brain melting. And then space started, and it was definitely time for me just to sit, catch my breath, and, you know, there was a miracle in there. And I don't remember too much of that, but standing on the moon happened and that was a moment when it really connected and I could see the power of a Jerry ballad. It was definitely not lost on me that night. And still to this day, that's probably my favorite Jerry ballad. But you know, that's hard to say. You know, later that night I remember somehow becoming untethered from time in those final Sunshine Daydream choruses of Sugar Magnolia and thinking, yeah, I'm going to be doing this again a lot. I did find my way back to the car that night a changed person, and Jay dropped me off at home with a tape of 121686 from the Oakland Coliseum, and the J card for that XL290 tape was all colored in, custom and decorated. It was unique and very cool. And I faded off the sunshine in bed that night to this very strange song listed on the tape as estimated. Hey, thanks so much for tuning in. If you enjoyed what you heard today, please consider hitting the subscribe button and leaving a comment. Your feedback and engagement really goes a long way to supporting and growing the show. And really, this is your show with your stories. So if you have a story or even a few of them from seeing Grateful Dead shows or experiences of how the band has impacted your life in some way, I'd love to hear from you and have you on. My email is willailsfromthelot.org reach out or you could use the new Text me feature that's in the show notes. You can easily reach out and connect with me directly that way. And don't forget to follow on Facebook for updates and exclusive content. And for those who prefer watching, full videos of every episode are available on my YouTube channel. So thanks again and please be kind to yourself and others.