Talkin’ Cowboys: Bring the Sauce

Summary

Talkin’ Cowboys: Bring the Sauce

Podcast: Talkin’ Cowboys
Episode Date: October 2, 2025
Hosts: Kyle Yeomans, Isaiah Stanback, Patrick "No C" Walker, Josh Rodriguez (Chris Beam producing)
Location: The Star in Frisco, TX

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Episode Overview

This lively Thursday edition of Talkin' Cowboys dives into a comprehensive preview of the Dallas Cowboys offense vs. the New York Jets defense heading into Week 5. The crew breaks down critical injury news, discusses the state of the Jets (including their embattled new head coach), and offers a detailed schematic outlook for how the Cowboys can attack. Later, Patrick Walker’s "Lab Coat" segment explores the infamous NFL tie, its impact on playoff odds, and why league brass tolerate it.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Injury News: Cowboys Offense in Crisis

[02:27–08:10]

• Offensive Line Woes: The Cowboys are in dire straits with four out of five starting offensive linemen (center, right guard, left tackle, and now possibly left guard Tyler Smith) missing time due to injury. Terence Steele is the lone expected starter.
  • “Still out your right guard...still out your center...and as of right now, out your left tackle...four out of five.” (Patrick, 05:02–05:32)
• Wide Receiver Setbacks:
  • CeeDee Lamb is progressing — he was on the cords with rehab staff, not in a boot, but hasn’t returned to practice.
  • Kevontae Turpin (top returner and WR) now has a foot injury, in a boot, and will likely miss at least the Jets game. Evaluated week-to-week.
• Other Absences:
  • Malik Hooker (toe), Miles Sanders (knee/ankle; “optimism” he might play), Tyler Guy (concussion protocol; travel status uncertain).
  • Two players, Kalen Carson (defense) and Jonathan Mingo (offense), designated to return from IR; they have a 21-day window for activation.
• The crew acknowledges the harsh reality: “Cowboys are kind of a mass unit right now.” (Patrick, 07:04)
  • “You have one remaining starting offensive lineman, you’re out two of your starting receivers, and your top returner.” (Patrick and Kyle, 07:47–08:01)

Outlook and Emotional Temperature

• The panel feels the weight of attrition but finds solace in CeeDee Lamb’s chance of a quicker return:
  • “For me, the silver lining is the fact that CeeDee Lamb is not in a boot…as soon as you get him back, the better.” (Josh, 10:19)
• Jake Ferguson is highlighted as a major PPR fantasy play due to increased targets, citing his historic reception pace for tight ends.

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2. QB Vision: Scheming vs. the Jets Defense

[16:11–32:36]
Segment led by Isaiah Stanback

Jets’ Defense: The Real Story

• Coach Spotlight: Aaron Glenn is under immense pressure as the Jets’ new head coach, with the team at 0-4, their worst start since 2020.
  • “Put some respect also on the fact that you’re probably dealing with a caged animal…with his back against the wall.” (Isaiah, 18:04)
• Defensive Identity: No consistent scheme yet — Glenn is highly adaptive with his game plans, playing multiple coverages weekly.
  • “This is a team that wants to match and take away what you do best...they play multiples.” (Isaiah, 18:59–19:22)
• Front Seven Strength: Defensive line is the core — especially Quinnen Williams (#95), a dominant interior force.
  • “He’s a dog. He’s everything you could ever want in an interior defensive lineman...especially since your interior offensive linemen are down to your second and third on the depth chart.” (Isaiah, 20:21)
  • Edge rushers are “not scary” — little concern for pressure from the outsides.
• Blitz Tendency: Minimal — the Jets mostly rely on their basic rush, but with desperation, could unveil surprises.

The Secondary: Is the Sauce Still Spicy?

• Sauce Gardner is “not as saucy as last year": less effective off injury/big payday, but will still shadow the Cowboys’ new #1, George Pickens.
  • “I don’t believe that Sauce is saucy right now...he’s not the same player that he once was." (Isaiah, 22:34)
  • “Sauce can do [shut down a #1], but...George Pickens isn’t a receiver that would challenge him in that.” (Isaiah, 23:55)
• Aggressiveness: The safeties are "nosy" and physical, which can be weaponized against them if the run game is effective — but not up the gut vs. Williams.

Gameplan for Dallas (with Makeshift O-line)

• Don’t run up the middle; attack the edges (zone schemes, outside runs, quick perimeter plays):
  • “Get to the edges, zone schemes, and stay on your blocks and finish your blocks.” (Isaiah, 25:16)
• Emphasize quick game, play-action, and using Jake Ferguson — Dak currently has an 88% completion rate on play action ("highest success rate," 26:14–26:17).
• Acknowledge that any complex schematic adjustments are tough with so many backup O-linemen: “Your identity has to...remain your identity: that’s running the ball [with play-action].” (Isaiah, 25:53)
• Expect the Jets, under pressure, to bring more aggressive and unpredictable looks.

Comparisons & Mindset

• Patrick parallels the matchup to earlier games (Eagles, Bears), warning against underestimating a desperate, winless opponent with "trick plays" potentially coming out early.
  • “Expect Aaron Glenn to go deep into the playbook...the Jets are going to leave it all on the field to avoid 0-5.” (Patrick, 34:23)

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3. Lab Coat Segment: The Curse of the NFL Tie

[37:40–43:32]
Science with Patrick “No C” Walker

NFL Tie: Why It’s a Problem

• Since 1960, only three teams have made the playoffs after finishing a season with a tie.
  • “Do you know how many teams...have made the Super Bowl? Zero.” (Patrick, 39:34)
  • “Do you know how many have made their conference championship game? Zero.” (Patrick, 39:40)
  • And only two made the divisional round.
• Ties are marginally better than losses, but statistically rarely lead to playoff success. They can handicap playoff seeding and break momentum.
• The panel passionately derides the tie as a concept:
  • “You work all week to either win or lose, one of the two — nobody wants a tie. It’s whack.” (Isaiah, 41:02)
  • “There needs to be a winner and a loser. Life lessons.” (Patrick, 42:50)
• Patrick teases his written "Science Lab" column on DallasCowboys.com, where he proposes a “spicy” fix for the tie problem and exposes why the NFL tolerates regular-season ties — “money” is hinted as a factor (read the article for details).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the injury situation:

  • “Four out of five...Terence Steele is the Lone Ranger.” (Patrick, 05:32)
  • “I’m proud of the way you’ve acted...normally there’s a little emotion here, Isaiah...Have you just given up?” (Kyle to Isaiah, 08:10–08:24)

• On CeeDee Lamb’s health:

  • “The silver lining is that CeeDee Lamb is not in a boot...get him back to the field as soon as possible — that’s the most important thing.” (Josh, 10:19)

• On Sauce Gardner:

  • “I don’t believe the sauce...he’s not the same player that he once was. He’s dry robe.” (Isaiah, 22:34–23:07)
  • “If I’m Aaron Glenn, I’m saying Sauce, follow [Pickens] everywhere...get in his psyche." (Isaiah, 23:27)

• On attacking the Jets’ defense:

  • “I would not want to run at Quinnen Williams right now...get to the edges.” (Isaiah, 25:04)
  • “Dak Prescott...the most efficient play-action quarterback in the game, 88% completion rate.” (Kyle & Isaiah, 26:14–26:17)

• On ties:

  • “You play to win the game...I hate ties in any sport, but especially football...all it does is mess up your playoff projection.” (Isaiah, 41:13–41:55)
  • “Why is [money] of a higher priority than the integrity of the standings that lend to the playoffs?” (Patrick, 43:05)

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |-----------|---------------------------------------------------------| | 02:27 | Detailed Cowboys injury report begins | | 05:09 | Extent of O-line injuries clarified (4/5 missing) | | 08:19 | Emotional response to injuries; CeeDee Lamb optimism | | 16:11 | QB Vision: Isaiah breaks down Jets’ defensive scheme | | 18:59 | Multiple coverage/matchup adaptability by Jets | | 20:21 | Jets’ D-line/Quinnen Williams focus | | 22:34 | Sauce Gardner’s struggles discussed | | 25:16 | Run-game tactics: attack Jets’ defensive edges | | 26:14 | Play-action success for Dak Prescott | | 34:23 | Patrick warns about trick plays vs. a desperate Jets | | 37:40 | Lab Coat: NFL ties and playoff history | | 39:34 | No teams with tie have made the Super Bowl | | 41:02 | Panel decries concept of ties; “Tie is whack” | | 43:05 | Tease: Read Science Lab for NFL’s tie rationale |

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Tone & Style

As always, the crew’s chemistry is on full display — witty, passionate, with a mix of dry humor and unfiltered football angst. Isaiah brings personal stories and locker room insights, Patrick delivers analytical clarity, Josh offers optimism and fantasy angles, and Kyle keeps the energy and fan focus flowing. There’s a real sense of both professional expertise and relatable, fan-level frustration over the Cowboys’ mounting injuries and the perils of NFL ties.

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Summary

This episode offers a must-listen blend of raw injury reality, strategic scheming, and inside-football banter — all tailored to help Cowboys fans (and serious NFL followers) understand what’s at stake when Dallas faces the Jets at less than full strength. The breakdowns go far beyond surface-level “keys to the game,” exploring not only X’s and O’s but also the psychological pressure on both teams. The panel’s indictment of the NFL tie provides a passionate, statistical, and even existential segment.

Final word: The Cowboys face a pivotal, injury-marred test against a desperate Jets team. The offense, already down to backups, must be both creative and resilient. The risk of falling prey to both the Jets’ unpredictable defense and the specter of another dreaded tie looms large. Expect trick plays, high emotion, and — whether for playoff math or pride — a result that needs to be a clear win, not a tie.

Transcript

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The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys.com and the Dallas Cowboys football club. How about this? Cowboys go Cowboys. This is Talking Cowboys streaming live from the Dallas Cowboys world headquarters at the Star in Frisco CD Lamb. It's on. Jake Ferguson.

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And now your hosts, Isaiah Stanbach, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez and Kyle Yeomans. It's a terrific Thursday edition of Talking Cowboys presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company live from the Star in Frisco, Texas, in the SWBC studio. Welcome in, everybody. We've got the whole cast and crew ready for you to rock today with Patrick no see Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah Stamback, Chris Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yeomans. Let's go. It is a Thursday, which means we are previewing the Dallas offense taking on that New York jets defense today.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah. Taking on the New York J.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. The Rochester Jefferson was my favorite team.

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Yep.

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Love the Jeffs.

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Shout out to them.

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Go, Jeffs, go.

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Greatest team of all time.

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You just had to be there. For those that weren't there. He just had to be there.

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But that's so perfectly timed for who we're playing.

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J, E, F. Jeff. Jeff.

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I love that.

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Hi, Isaiah. Welcome back, sir. How was Good Morning Football?

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It was work, man.

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It's the second best morning show in the country.

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Just saying.

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It comes out just a little bit earlier, but. Yeah. Yeah, it was good, man. It was good.

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Yeah, it was good, man.

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How are you guys doing?

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Doing great.

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Splendid.

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Excited for some QV vision in the second segment?

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Yeah. Yeah, let's talk about it.

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And then we've got some lab code in the third segment. It's another double dip Thursday.

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I'm always excited for news and notes.

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Let's get into it then.

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Oh, hello. Hi there.

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News and notes. I don't think we should be excited about news and notes.

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Goodness, no. Because first aid kit.

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Dang it.

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We're talking about pharmacies.

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We were talking about pharmacy.

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Like the Call of duty one where you just Hurry up and hit it. And they come right back to life.

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No, not. That's the stem. Now they need. Some need a stem, which is fine. Some need, you know, a little bit more than that.

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Some need time.

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Yeah, some need time. Those sums word.

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Let's.

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Let's go with that. So include Tyler Booker, obviously with his ankle injury. He did not participate in Thursday's Wednesday's practice, so he's going to miss some time, as we well know. The same goes for CD Lamb with his ankle. Did not participate as expected. But CD Lamb was out on the field doing some rehab work with the rehab group on the cords with Brit Brown. So that is progress. CD Lamb has made progress.

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Was he wearing a boot?

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No, he was not. Some very, very pristine cleats, though, which is typically the brand for CD So.

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Only boots we like around here are Lucchese.

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Heck yeah.

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No, I don't.

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With some Lucasi boots.

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Get her done, get her done, get her done. Malik Hooker did not participate with the toe injury suffered in the. The matchup against the Packers. Miles San. He did not participate. It's listed as a knee and an ankle. Knee slash. Ankle issue for Miles Sanders. Yeah. But, you know, Schottenheimer had a lot of optimism that Miles Sanders should be available or might be available to play against the. Against the Jets. I don't know if that holds true. Regardless, you're going to need some insurance there, given what he's dealing with. Do you have it? Do I have what?

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Do you have insurance?

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So there you go.

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There you go. Tyler guy. Tyler Guy remains in concussion protocol. Obviously he needs to clear that in order to travel to take on the Jets. We'll see if he clears today or tomorrow. I mean, he has technically until pre. Prior to the flight taking off to clear to be able to make that game. We'll see how that works.

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Hmm.

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Gets worse from there.

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No, just.

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Just. Just to recap before you move forward with the. It gets worse. Still out your right guard.

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Yep.

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Still out your center.

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Absolutely.

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And as of right now, out your left tackle.

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Okay.

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Just go ahead. Three out of three out of five.

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You ready?

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I am.

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Okay. Four out of five. Tyler has a knee issue. He did not participate in Wednesday's practice. There is a chance that Tyler Smith may not play against the New York Jets.

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That's your left guard.

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That's your. Yeah.

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All pro left.

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Go.

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Yes.

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In football.

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Just exactly.

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So.

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So four out of five.

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Four out of five.

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Terence Deal is the Lone Ranger.

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As it stands, he's the Lone Ranger.

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He's, as it stands, about how down.

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I am right now.

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Yeah, I get it.

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That's how. That's. That's how we feel. But wait before you elevate.

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Oh, no.

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Kevante Turpin. No. Yeah. Kevonte Turpin's dealing with a foot issue. He had a boot on. He did not participate in Wednesday's practice either. He is expected to potentially miss at least the jets game. And from what I'm hearing, it's a week to week evaluation of Kevonte Turpin. Yeah, let's just go week to week. We're not hearing IR on him just yet. But it's disappointing because Turpin was able to battle through that neck issue to remain available for the Cowboys when they took on the packers, only to suffer a foot issue that is going to take him off the field against the Jets. Now, let's go to a positive note. We have two players who were designated to return from IR yesterday. Kaylin Carson.

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Okay.

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And Jonathan Mingle both returned to practice on yesterday. So their 21 day practice window has been open. So the Cowboys have until October 22nd to make a decision on if they're going to move them to the active roster or if they're going to revert them to season ending ir. So you got one player on each side of the ball there. Trayvon Diggs. He was participating in a limited capacity. Kenneth Murray, dealing with an issue, knee issue, but he participated limited to Ron Blandford. So, yeah, Cowboys are kind of a mass unit right now. And I saw someone say, well, you know, you'd rather these things happen earlier than later. That's true. It's also true though that you have to remain relevant so that when these players return, it matters.

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Yep.

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So.

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And remember what we've had the conversation with about the schedule. When is it favorable?

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Before.

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Yeah. Early in the year.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Technically. Right now.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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Particularly over these next two games. Absolutely. Because after these next two games.

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Yeah. Jets, Panthers.

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Yeah.

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Coming up. And then you get Commanders, Broncos, Cardinals, before the buy. And then after that it's Raiders, Eagles, Chiefs, Lions, Vikings, Chargers, commanders.

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I don't like that.

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So just, just to recap.

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Yeah.

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You have One remaining starting offensive lineman.

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Yep.

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You're out two of your starting receivers.

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Arguably.

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So he's also your top returner.

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Top returner, yeah.

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Top returner, all pro returner and arguably your second wide receiver currently with City being out.

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Could argue that.

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Gotcha. Just wanted to.

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I'm. I'm proud of the way that you've acted in this segment because you haven't thrown a mic like a windscreen. You haven't, like, thrown your coffee on the cusp. Is he on the cusp?

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Because he's on an edge, bro.

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I mean, have you just given up? Is that. Why give up?

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You don't know.

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Normally there's a little emotion here. Isaiah.

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I had. I already had my moment before coming in here. You know, I had some of that information. So I already have my last case.

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This isn't a Tyler Booker moment for you. No, that. Really not.

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That's. That's what I was referencing.

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Yeah.

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That. That completely knocked you off you.

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But you don't have Tyler. No, I mean, or Tyler Smith.

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The injury. So we knew about CD we knew about Booker. We knew about, you know, BB still being out. The only surprise here is Turby. Turby. Speed. Speed. And he has not been involved as much as we would have liked him to be to this point. So though you will miss his presence, I don't feel as if that's as dire of a. As a whole. Of a whole as some of these other positions that we're talking about.

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I think when it. When it comes to Turpin, obviously him not being on the field, it impacts you offensively for sure, but most certainly impacts you on the special teams front.

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Yeah.

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That being said, they returned Paris Campbell to the practice squad. So if you're talking about trading off speed for speed, again, we're not going to say Paris Campbell or even Jay and Blue or Kevonte Turpin, but speed for speed. Okay. At least you. At least you're not seeing that fall off there. And then keep in mind, I know it's been. He's a while removed from it. A long while removed from it. But go back and look at Paris Campbell as a returner for Ohio State. He. He knows how to get it done. We'll see if the Cowboys give him or J and Blue the knot in that capacity in the absence of Kavante Turpin. But make no mistake about it, Terps, not on the field. There's going to be a follow.

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Perry. Speed. Speed. Incoming.

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He would have to be elevated.

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Correct.

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Perry. Perry.

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I don't know. See, Patrick, you know, honestly, it doesn't look great. The injury report is awful. But for me, the silver lining is the fact that CD Lamb is not in a boot and he was out there not practicing with the team, but he was going through drills with the rehab group. And yeah, he. To me, it doesn't look like they're sending him to IR at this point. Why would you. Yeah, the sooner he gets back, the better. I think that would ail a lot of the problems that you have, even the offensive line. CDLM helps your entire team, helps your entire offense if you have him. And now George Pickens, who is starting to cook. I mean, who arguably has been cooking so far this year, that's just even better. Like, get him back to the field as soon as possible. That's the most important thing to me right now.

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Completely agree. And I think when you've got those two guys, you can kind of get the ball out quick. You can scheme around that. That pressure. You can just dink and dunk a lot. It's going to be a lot of Jake Ferguson again. I mean, that's what's going to happen. While CDs out of the fold this week. PPR, you're going to see, yeah. Jake Ferguson, start him in leagues. Need him. Need him this week. PPR targets are going to be significant. More receptions in the first four weeks of the year than any other tight end in NFL history. And he can be.

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You said history.

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History in the super bowl era, I believe, actually.

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Everdom.

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I think so. Yeah. That's the case. He. He has. He has to catch seven, I think, this week to keep that pace and pass. I think like Zach Ertz. It's on Big facts. It's on Dallas Cowboys dot com.

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Yeah, it's up now. All right, let's take our first break because we've got a lot to get to here in this show. When we come back, it's time for a little Q be vision. We preview the Dallas offense taking on the New York jets defense. Isaiah, what. What do you got cooking over there?

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His parents are awesome. Yeah, I do have some awesome parents. The they were at the game the other day and I went over to say hi and there was a Packers fan getting arrested like next to my dad. And I was like, what did you do? And he was like, no, I've just been hanging out watching. All right, that's kind of interesting. All right, it's the second segment on a Thursday. You know what that means? It's time for some wide 80. Wide 80. It's time for QB Vision with Isaiah Stanbach. Hi, Isaiah.

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Hey, Kyle.

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Well, guys, we're back. Week five is amongst us. Listen, the New York jets, they have. Who's their coaches? What's their coach's name?

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Aaron Glenn.

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Aaron Glenn. G. AG, My former teammate, I was about to say.

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That's your guy.

[B]

My former teammate when I Got drafted in 07, AG was still on the team. He did not make the team that year. That was his last year. 06 to 07. Oh, yeah.

[A]

Bolts, though.

[B]

Well, listen, he's somebody that I have a high regard for. Of course, when I first came into the league, I knew nothing of the position of receiver. Nothing. Nothing. So I didn't know what swag was at the receiver position. I didn't know how to line up as a receiver in a stance. I didn't know how to get off the ball. I didn't know how to do anything. I didn't know what the. When I was getting pressed, I was a big physical receiver, but I didn't know how to use it. So I would spend my time after practice meeting up with guys like Terence Newman and guys like Aaron, Glenn, T. New and Ag. Those were my guys that I leaned upon to show me. What are you guys looking for when you guys go against a receiver of my stature? Like, I don't know anything. So please teach me. So high regard. Shout out to Ag and everything that he's been able to accomplish as a defensive coordinator of this league and now as his first stint as a head coach.

[A]

You know, they Want to fire him in New York. Right?

[D]

Right.

[B]

Yeah. They always want to fire anybody in New York if you don't have a ring.

[A]

So there you go.

[B]

He will be okay. His team, honestly, I know I haven't been here, so let's just cover this. The jets. Yes. They're 014. Yes. Is their worst start since 2020. But I want you guys to understand that through the first four games of those four games, those three games. Three of those games, they lost by a total of 10 points.

[D]

Yeah, they were in it.

[B]

Okay, so one possession game. So don't sleep on this team. I know we've already covered the offense up to this point, but don't sleep on this team. Defensively, they are not necessarily ranked that great statistically. Okay. But again, stats don't tell the whole picture. So put some respect on their name. Put some respect also on the fact that you probably are dealing with a caged animal right now that has his back against the wall.

[C]

Absolutely.

[B]

Aaron Glenn is a head coach because of how successful he's been as a defensive coordinator in this league. Right now, as you mentioned, Kyle, they're coming for his head. They're saying that your team sucks. They're saying that, you know, you don't know what you're doing as a coach. You know, the New York media is all over his head. We have this amazing defense, but you guys are, you know, we have all this talent on defense. We got, you know, Williams on the D line, we got Gardner out there. You know, we got all these guys we've invested these resources into, and you can't get these guys to play. That's a dangerous animal.

[C]

Absolutely. And KY Stat of yesterday talking about how the jets have not gone 05 with a brand new head coach. I mean, ever, ever, ever.

[B]

So that's what you're going. That's what you're facing. This Everdome, the Everdom, and you're in. AG is probably one of the most competitive head coaches, I would say, in the league.

[D]

Absolutely.

[B]

With all that said, let's go ahead and talk about what they do well and what they don't do well.

[A]

Get them.

[B]

This is a team that wants to match and take away what you do best. This isn't a team that just has a. They don't truly have an identity yet. Through four games, we don't really know who they are at their core. And the reason why I say that is because every game they've changed up their style of play in terms of their coverage.

[C]

They play multiple.

[B]

They play multiples Right. So whatever you do best. For instance, when you watch the Tampa Bay game, Tampa Bay game, they played a lot of zone. Okay. A lot of two high zone. Well, why? Because they have. I don't know how to say his last name. From Ohio State, who Both.

[A]

Against Tampa Bay.

[B]

There you go.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Against that. But they have Ibuka and they have a Mike Evans. Right. You have those two. You might want to kind of play off. You just might want to sit back a little bit and make sure those guys don't get over the top. So even though you would think that their personnel allows for them to go up there and press man with. With Sauce Gardner.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They still, in that particular game, played a little bit off. And the times that they did go up and press, as I just showed Kyle, it didn't matter who it was. They were getting sauced up.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

So if you have threats at the receiver position, they will respect you and give. Right. Why can they do that even against a Tampa Bay team that rushes the ball very effectively? Because their front seven, they feel pretty good about. No, no.

[C]

As they should.

[B]

As they should. The jets have invested a lot, but before they invested in their secondary, they invested in their D line. That is the core. That is a cream of the pot right there. And it starts with their big fella, number 99. 5. And that is Keenan Williams. He is a beast. He's a dog. He's everything that you guys could ever want or hope for in interior defense alignment. A matter of fact, through since the Micah trade, we've heard murmurs as to the fact that Dallas was in. Was. Was interested in him as well.

[C]

So put some respect would have been nice.

[B]

Yeah. But he's a dude, okay? So that's somebody that you have to identify, obviously, especially since your interior offensive linemen are down to your second and third on that depth chart. Somebody that you need to be respectful of. They do not possess in my opin, a true pass rusher right now. Those guys have. Have left over the recent years all their pass rush. They used to be stacked at the defensive in position. Now that whole inventory has been emptied out.

[C]

Not a fan of Will McDonald.

[B]

Not a fan. Not a fan. There's nobody on their defensive front on the edges that. That scare me. That make me say, let's spend some extra time on, you know, pass pro. Let's spend some extra time chipping.

[D]

Let's.

[B]

Let's go ahead and. And move our protection in that direction. There's nobody that they have on the edges interior. That's a whole Another conversation. I respect their interior, but one thing about their front seven is there. They play downhill. They're big fellas on the inside. They are going to two gap you, and they're going to run your butt back and dump truck you into whatever lap that you want to be in. Dak. Okay? That's what they're. That's what they want to do. And by doing that, they don't present a lot of pressure. They don't blitz a lot. Okay. Because they have.

[C]

Those guys on almost don't need to.

[B]

They don't. They don't feel the sense that they need to. Unless you're owing 4. Being that you're on 4, you might see some things that you haven't seen on film yet.

[A]

Here they come.

[B]

Right? So again, take into consideration we're looking at a snapshot of what AG has done. He's played a quarter of his season, and he's a lot of things I would imagine are in his chamber that he has not shown. Okay? So we have to take what we've seen with a grain of salt and understand that we're probably going to see something completely different. All right? So the front seven is solid. Their interior, dealer, fence alignment are solid. Let's get to their secondary. I'm unimpressed. I'm unimpressed.

[A]

Even with Sauce Gardener out there.

[B]

I'm unimpressed. I don't believe that Sauce is saucy right now.

[C]

I don't believe the sauce.

[B]

He's lost. I don't say he's lost it. I don't want to put that out there. I don't know bulletin board material. But he has not been saucy, I'll say it that way. And if I remember correctly, he didn't. He have an injury that he had overcome. He came back from.

[A]

I believe he was banged up a little.

[B]

He's banged up last year. Well, coming into this year, I think he was. He was coming over some. Getting over some injuries, and he had the bag, right? He has the bag now in terms of money. And he's not the same player that he once was.

[D]

He's dry robe. Now, listen.

[B]

I'm. I'm just going to say that he has not performed stuff.

[A]

If you find the right thing.

[B]

Oh, yeah, Kansas City. Now, he's not. He's not performing the way in which you. We've seen him perform in the past. I'll put it that way. However, he is a cornerback, very rare breed that will follow your number one guy wherever the heck he goes. The traveler who's our number one guy right now?

[D]

Picking Pickens.

[B]

George Pickens is our number one guy. He performed as that last week. Okay. And I was very happy with his performance. Buckle up, because Sauce Gardner, I would imagine, if I'm Aaron Glenn, I'm saying Sauce, follow him everywhere he goes. Get underneath his skin, get him at the line of scrimmage. Be physical, grab onto him, talk mess to him, get in his psyche and get him out of his game. That's what I'm doing. If I'm Aaron Glenn, make him focus.

[C]

On you, not the game.

[B]

Absolutely. Be an absolute pest. Sit in his hip pocket. Be lint in his pocket. Right. Which Sauce can do. But Sauce, for whatever reason, his hips and him getting in and out of his brakes right now isn't great. But that can. That could not. Let me. Let me rephrase it. George Pickens isn't a receiver that would challenge him in that. Right. So in that sense, Georgia have to do a great job of getting off the line of scrimmage and creating separation. Their secondary will come up and hit. There's nobody in their secondary. You can't play on their team defensively if you don't come up and hit. Aaron Glenn's just not going for it. Yeah. There's no softness. There's no. There's no, you know, questioning whether, you know or not, whether, am I going to pull the trigger? You better come up and hit. So everybody in their defense does that. I think you can use that aggressiveness, especially from their safeties against them, because they want to be a little bit nosy. So if you can establish the run game against this defensive front, especially the interior D line, I wouldn't necessarily go forward. Right. Like last week, I said go forward. This week, I'm saying go to the edges. Okay. Last week, you saw when you try to run sideways, that defense was too fast. I said they were a little soft in the middle. Right. I was. I was very adamant about that. Don't go to the edges. Go forward. Dallas has success with that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

This is not the week to go forward. Keenan Williams will. He will pick you up and throw you back into your car and send you back out to AT&T Stadium or wherever we're playing.

[D]

Okay, cool.

[B]

So, yeah, midlife.

[C]

What's important is getting Javante Williams out in open space.

[B]

Get him to the edges, zone schemes, get to the edges, and then make sure that you stay on your blocks and finish your blocks.

[A]

The good thing is you've shown an ability, scheme wise, to do this already. This year you've shown that you can do this and the consistency level is just what you're looking for.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The bad thing of this is you might be out, as Patrick alluded to in news and notes, you might be out four of your top five offensive linemen. So how much does your confidence level change when you're pulling guards and you're moving scenarios and you're trying to up this scheme? When you've got a bunch of new guys that are not playing together all year long and now are thrown into.

[B]

The fire, Your identity has to be remain your identity.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

So you have to do what you do best and that's running the ball. Right now, Dak Prescott is the most efficient play action quarterback in the game, as we've said, and his stats show that he's Throwing it over 80% complete 84 completion rate right now when, when he's running play action. So he's the most efficient. He's the highest, has the highest success rate.

[A]

You didn't even give him high enough.

[B]

Was it 88? 88.

[A]

No disrespect, 88 completion percentage on play action passes that second in the NFL compared to 67% which is still high, but 67% with five touchdowns, three interceptions with no play straight drop backs.

[B]

Yeah. So Dax doing well with that, which we all know that's, that's the best part of his game. So you have to be able to run the ball coverage wise. I would imagine that you're going to see one. Right. We don't have those, those assets at the receiver position right now to force them to respect us with two guys deep. Now, are you throwing the ball successfully? Absolutely. But if I am Aaron Glenn, I'm saying my guys can match up well against your guys. I'm going to compress man, and I'm going to put an extra man in the box and I'm going to get after your offensive lineman.

[C]

And you're talking about Aaron Glenn, who is I essentially trying to replicate the success that he had in Detroit with a defensive line that was very physical and opportunistic. Secondary. Right now you have an opportunity here with Dallas where you're facing a defensive line that loves to run stunts. They love to send things at you in different ways. But we were just talking about the injury report is a grocery list. So if Dallas's offensive line doesn't have that chemistry, that doesn't have that wherewithal to understand where they're coming from, it's going to be a long day. So Dak has to be on his toes. Another thing, the Bills absolutely murdered the jets defense with the coverages they were using, right? They were using man for the most part and they were using man in third down situations. Not even third and long, like third and eight mid third down. So Josh Allen picked him apart because that's what Josh Allen does, right? And he was also a dual threat quarterback because he would escape pocket and run to the outside like you're saying, which they don't have covered up necessarily. So in that you have to be aware of what they're giving you and take what they're giving you because they're trying to be so physical at the.

[B]

Secondary position and you can expect pressure around second down. They want to force you into a third and long situation. It's funny because they, they bring the pressure. Whenever they do, they bring one man. It's not like a, it's not like even a fire zone blitz. They bring a one guy, right? And then bringing, usually bringing him on the interior office in line. It's not even. I don't understand it. Right. That's why, that's why I'm saying like I'm watching it and I'm like, I know he has way more in his bag than what he's shown and it's, it's, it's odd. It's almost like, it's almost like he's stashing away his good stuff for at some point in the year to be able to show it off. And it just get that sense because it's very simplistic what he's running right now defensively. And you know that that isn't what got him the head coaching job.

[A]

And there's, there's times. Do you think there's a play into the talent, the personnel on that jets defense just isn't ready to run something complex like that.

[B]

I don't think so. Now with the guys he has, he has, he has, he has guys that can, that can go get it. I don't know why. I mean everybody, their defense is solid. They're not performing well, but they, they can play. Yeah, they can play. That just even one thing that's been consistent with the jets over however long they've been bad has been their defense doesn't matter who's their head coach. I don't care. Salah. I don't care. Rick Ryan, you go back as far as you want to. It's always been their defense.

[A]

I just don't think their defense is very good, just to be completely honest. But And I think Williams is great and Sauce Garner hasn't played up to Sauce Garner.

[B]

Dominant piece.

[A]

Yeah. When those two guys are playing at a high level, they can both be the best at their position in the NFL. There's just a bunch of no name guys outside of that. I mean we talked about McDonald. I loved McDonald coming out of the draft. He hasn't been anything except for the blocked kick that he returned for a touchdown against Tampa Bay.

[C]

That was season but yeah, but he.

[A]

Hasn'T lived up to that expectation of a first round pick. Clemens hasn't played well. He's ranked 103 out of 116 in total edge rushers in the NFL right now. There's just not for sure the overall dudes that I think we've been used to seeing on that defense because I agree with you, traditionally in the Cowboys and Jets don't play a ton because of the AFC NFC scheduling. But when you go up against the Jets a lot of the time you're going to see a good defense. I don't think they have the pieces that they have in the and I'm.

[C]

Glad you say that because the Dallas Cowboys are going to need to score on every possession they have.

[A]

Which is probably true.

[D]

That is absolutely.

[C]

They're going to need to do.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I don't like it's almost like these defenses. It is. You bring it up as a joke there, but it's true in the fact that it's like looking in a mirror. You the jets, the last couple of times that they've come up and watched or played against the Dallas defense, it's one guy after the other. It's like, wow, they're known for being a super good defense ever since Dan Quinn took over. They're not the same. And we've seen that they are not the same even though they have some pieces to. Ron Bland was an all pro, Trayvon Diggs was an all pro. You've got guys on that defense, but they're not playing the same as they once were. But you still think they're high.

[B]

I think they're capable.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Again, I feel, I feel as. Yes, I feel like they're very capable. I feel as if. And I just might sound stupid, right? Because statistically and what you see on film, I feel as, I feel as if like they're the dog that's. That's been trained to be a defense dog. Right. That's just waiting on the command instead.

[A]

Of being an attack dog.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? Like, it's like the dog's like, okay, yeah, can. Can I pet him? Yeah, you could pet him. But if he. If he gives that. If he gives that word, they can go get you. And I'm like, I don't know why the word hasn't been given yet. Does that make sense? You know, like. Like, I just feel as if AG's been, like, hoarding what he's capable of doing. Because they're running 1, 3, 4, 2. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's nothing special at all. Blitz. Send one linebacker right up the middle. Like, it's been so vanilla. And you know what he was capable. What he's capable of, because we've seen it in Detroit for however many years, and those guys were multiple. Right. Whenever they wanted to be. They're aggressive. Okay, let's not. Let's not forget the fact that Todd Bowles was a coach here when I came into the Dallas Cowboys and Aaron Glenn was here when I came into the Dallas Cowboys. We've seen what Todd Bowles does, like, defensively. Listen, he's. He has it in the chamber. We haven't seen it here and again with the jets, but it's in the chamber. Let's just hope that he doesn't pull the trigger when he faces Dallas. He may need to.

[C]

And if anybody's willing, giant. That's the Dallas Cowboys. A sleeping giant of untapped potential. That's going to be fun.

[B]

Hi, Patrick.

[D]

Hi.

[A]

It's been your best segment all year.

[D]

Thanks.

[B]

Wow. Yes. Science.

[A]

Anything you would like to add?

[D]

Yeah, but you guys are cooking. This is. I've been quite enjoying everything that's being said. I mean, this was really quickly. This. This game reminds me of two different. Two separate games. The Cowboys have already experienced one versus the Philadelphia Eagles. Philadelphia Eagles. Heavy in the middle. That's what you got to focus on. But I'm not going to say light on the ends, but that wasn't their focus. It flipped against the New York Giants. Kind of light in the middle. And so the Eagles, you had some success running the ball there. Get Javante Williams out in space, but you also had your starters that helped you get push up front. You don't have your starters right. You might be without Tyler Smith. You're already without Tyler Booker. Cooper Beebe. I'm with Isaiah 100%. Attack the edges. Attack those. Those guys because they're just not there for. For the Jets. This also reminds me of the Chicago Bears game, which is why I asked both Duron Bland and Trayvon Diggs this Same question. Tell me the biggest takeaway and learning experience that that gives you the message that you need to have going into New York, understanding that you went into Chicago in an afternoon game against a winless team who was desperate, and now you're going to into New York against a winless team in an afternoon game and they're desperate.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

You saw Aaron Glenn hasn't gone deep into the playbook yet. Okay, well, Ben Johnson hadn't yet either, and here came the flea flickers.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And those trick plays. So I do like Trayvon Diggs's answer to my question. He said they expect them to pull out the trick plays early. They expect Aaron Glenn to go deep into the playbook because they don't want to be the first jets team in organizational history that starts off on five. Yeah. Right. So expect that. And I love hearing that the Cowboys defense expects it because it's coming. There will not be any vanilla. The jets are going to leave it all on the field. Try to avoid 015.

[B]

Yeah. Especially at home.

[A]

All right, when we come back, we've got some lab coat Pat, what are we looking at? Today?

[D]

We're going to. For the final time, we're going to go ahead and get this. This tie off of our necks. We're going to talk about the tie and how that could impact things and. And we'll go from there.

[A]

Okay, so it's actual science. We're gonna bring out some numbers here.

[D]

Yeah, we're gonna bring some numbers.

[A]

Oh, yes, science. When we come back with lab code right after this.

[D]

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[B]

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[D]

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[A]

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[B]

Thanks brosa.

[D]

Bam.

[A]

Josh, great job. Yeah, as always.

[B]

Yeah. Patrick contributed.

[A]

Patrick contributed at the tail end of the segment. He was, he was on on route to a season low in terms of words per segment.

[D]

I am a gracious analyst and when my fellow analysts are absolutely in their bed, I am completely fine taking a back seat and letting you guys.

[B]

He just wanted a low era is the freaking playoffs.

[A]

Trying to get that era down. Well, guess what? We're putting you into the mound. We're calling to the bullpen because it's time for a little bit of.

[B]

Yes. Science.

[D]

Science lab coat. Okay, so just so you know, this lab coat segment as as it is each week week kind of segues to science lab. The weekly column on the.com will drop this morning so make sure you check that out. So I'm not going to give you any spoilers but I will tell you that it is about the Thai situation. I will also say that in today's science lab that drops I offer up a very interesting and spicy, spicy solution to doing away with the tie in the NFL. How do you get to a victor in the NFL. If you want to make things. Make things fun, got a solution. So check that out. As far as the.

[C]

Keep going. Is that the solution?

[D]

It kind of is, but there's. I have a spoiler alert. Not spoiler, no.

[A]

Just go ahead and tell us. It's Cowboys.

[D]

I have a pun intended. I have a kicker in there. There's a kicker.

[A]

Are we doing penalty kicks?

[D]

So, lab coat, here's. Here's another reason to hate ties in the NFL, okay. Other than every other reason that we have NFL in the Super bowl era. So we're talking 1960, 1959. Okay. Long time, long time. Do you know how many teams in NFL history in the super bowl era have made the playoffs with a tie on the regular season record?

[B]

3.

[D]

That is correct. That's why I didn't want to give you a hundred dollars. I didn't want to bet the hundred.

[B]

Dollars in the face. 3.

[D]

Since 1960, when it actually began mattering, because you had an actual number of teams and you weren't just playing, you know, The Rochester Jefferson's three chaps. Only three teams since 1960 with a tie on their regular season record have made the playoffs. Do you know how many of those teams have made the Super Bowl?

[A]

Zero.

[D]

Zero.

[A]

Nice.

[D]

Do you know how many of those teams have made their respective conference championship game?

[A]

0.

[D]

0.

[B]

Wow.

[D]

Do you know how. How many have made it to their divisional round? He's on fire. Two.

[A]

Dang it.

[D]

Nope.

[B]

Never mind. He's back to cold.

[D]

Yeah. The other was eliminated in the 1.

[C]

Put the house on it, honey.

[D]

I say that double or nothing. I say that to say, granted, a tie is mathematically better than a loss, but it is not as good as a win. And when push comes to shove and you start getting into these tiebreaker scenarios, yeah, it could give you a leg up, but it could handicap you in a very real way. So, no, it doesn't hurt as much as if the Cowboys are one and three. That's just mathematically true. But that being said, it's still a hole to climb out of. So just keep that in mind as the Cowboys go up against this desperate jets team that go up against a Panthers team that are going to want to prove themselves, especially after having lost the last couple of chances at bank of America Stadium against the Cowboys. And then after that, you have the gauntlet that begins. So I just. I feel in my heart of hearts that when we get down to, you know, week 18, this tie is going to need it very large in some way, shape or form. I don't know if that's going to be a really good thing or really bad thing, but just keep an eye on it as. As the season rolls along.

[A]

It also looks gross in writing.

[D]

It does.

[B]

Hate it.

[D]

Gross. I don't like two hyphens in my record.

[B]

I just hate, like.

[A]

You weren't here.

[D]

You weren't weigh in.

[B]

I hate it. You work all week to either win or lose one of the two. Nobody wants to die. It's. It's. It's whack.

[D]

You play to win the game.

[B]

Yeah. You need. There's a winner and there's a loser.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And everything you do in life. And I don't like ties in any sport. Right. But especially a sport that I'm passionate about, football. You work too hard. There's too much that goes into it. You exert too much energy, too much effort, too much sacrifice in terms of your body to walk away. Like. And all it does is mess up your playoff, you know, projections. That's all it does. Like, why? Like, there's an opportunity to. To figure out a way for this game to end with a winner and a loser. A tie is like the laziest.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

Way to go about a solution for two teams that just gave it their absolute all for 75 minutes and you end it with a tie. Shake hands, go back to your crib. This week, this week of work was for nothing. Like, everything that you did this week, all the hours of film, all the analytics, the whole analytics department, all the work that you did, walk through like, everything was for nothing. All that work was to mess up your playoff projection. Like, that's trash.

[A]

And you like soccer.

[B]

Yeah, I like soccer, but I hate ties.

[A]

Yeah, you hate ties in soccer, too.

[B]

Yes, I hate those.

[A]

Why?

[B]

Like shootout.

[C]

One of the arguments that they had earlier that, like, this is one of the highest scoring Thai games in NFL origami, but in instances where a game is really ugly and you almost don't want to watch it, watch the rest of it. Right. That ends up in a tie. A 10, 10 tie. Or do you feel the same way about it?

[B]

Yes.

[C]

There needs to be a winner.

[D]

Winner, and loser needs to be a winner.

[B]

Life lessons.

[D]

There is a tidbit in science lab because, you know, I went and did some digging, but there's a tip in a science lamb that's going to reveal exactly why the NFL is completely fine with regular season ties.

[C]

Let me guess. Does it have to do with money?

[D]

It does, but wow. It's even more specific than that. It just. No read Science lab this morning. It's going to piss you off as it pissed me off because it's like, why is the thing that I'm speaking of of a higher priority than the integrity of the standings that lend to the playoffs? So check that out. Science lab drops this morning no later than 11am Central Time.

[A]

I just went and looked up how close Isaiah was to a tie in his career. Do you remember the closest you were ever to a tie?

[B]

No.

[A]

You were in Jacksonville.

[B]

No, I definitely don't remember.

[A]

It was a. We are September 9, 2012. So early season game Jacksonville. I was the season opener against Minnesota and Minnesota had Blair Walsh kick a 38 yard field goal with about four minutes left in overtime. It was 23. 23.

[B]

I don't know if I was there yet.

[A]

No, you were there. I don't know. You didn't. You didn't play anything. You. You first played?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like week five.

[B]

I delete it. You're out of my Such a bad experience.

[C]

You were the jaden blue of the job, bro.

[B]

I promise.

[C]

Like, where's Isaiah? Stand back.

[B]

Promise you. When I first got to Jacksonville, I sat there and we had. It was myself and my boy Ross used to play for the Giants as well. And we got up there, we're sitting in the suite and we're watching the stadium. We're like, it's five minutes before the game, bro. And nobody was in the stand.

[D]

Oh.

[B]

And I'm like, oh, this is trash. It was so bad. It was so bad.

[A]

It hasn't gotten much better.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Hey, coaches leave fighting.

[D]

Dude.

[A]

What was that?

[B]

At least their head coach is trying to fight.

[A]

Do it, B. Yeah, that's true. There it is.

[B]

Who would have won that fight?

[C]

Robert Sala.

[B]

Are you kidding me?

[A]

Yeah. At least they're three and one, though.

[B]

They are.

[A]

And they don't have a tie.

[D]

They don't. Bottom line, they're business. They don't have a tie.

[A]

Yeah, ties are the worst. They don't have any tie.

[B]

All right, you're about to put one on us.

[A]

I am about to put one on. We got to shoot some TV stuff here in a minute. Nice job on lab coat today, sir. Great job on QB Vision, Josh. Love you, buddy. Chris Beam in back for Patrick. No see Walker for Isaiah. Stand back. Josh Rodriguez, I'm Kyle Yeomans.

[B]

We'll see you tomorrow.

[A]

Because it's a what, Isaiah? It's a freaking doggy Friday, say with Chess Friday. See you tomorrow with more talking Cowboys. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys.com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. How about this Cowboys.