Talkin’ Cowboys: Evolution After Playoff Extinction?

Summary

Talkin’ Cowboys: Evolution After Playoff Extinction?

Podcast: Talkin’ Cowboys
Hosts: Kyle Youmans, Patrick “No C” Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah Stanback, Chris Beam
Date: December 19, 2025
Theme: Assessing the Dallas Cowboys' collapse and uncertain future after playoff hopes fade, blending injury news, defensive back woes, and bold predictions in a punchy and often comedic Friday episode.

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Episode Overview

This episode marks a pivotal moment for Cowboys fans: the team’s playoff chances for 2025 are virtually non-existent, injuries are piling up, and the mood is a mix of gallows humor and critical reflection. The crew tackles the theme of extinction vs. evolution—what’s next for the Cowboys after a disappointing season, both on the field (especially in the secondary) and for the coaching staff.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Appreciating the Die-hard Fans & Podcast Community

• The show starts with a heartfelt moment where the hosts acknowledge fans tuning in despite the bleak playoff outlook.
  Quote:
  • “If you were tuning in at 9AM on this day when the playoffs are so thin...we know you're a diehard. So this makes this day a little extra special.” (Kyle, 01:11)

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2. Injury Report Chaos and Defensive Back Meltdown

• Tyler Guyton: Still not practicing, trending toward missing Sunday (ankle).
• Quinn Williams & Hunter Luepke: Both in concussion protocol but limited participation suggests progress.
• CeeDee Lamb: Missed second practice due to illness, but could still play given his All-Pro status.
• Daron Bland: Likely to IR due to recurrence of surgically repaired foot injury; possible second surgery. The hosts highlight the long-term implications: Quote:
  • “It appears that Daron Bland is having some issues with that surgically repaired foot that could, in fact, require additional surgery...But the expectation is that he will be ready for the start of training camp. Of course, you have to put an asterisk next to that.” (Patrick, 12:14)
• Trayvon Diggs/Josh Butler: Monitoring return; thin depth at corner with Diggs still limited and others not at full health.
• General DB health: Kaylin Carson, Savone Revel, etc. all banged up—“You’re thin-mint cornerbacked up.” (Patrick, 18:54)

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3. Personal Stories: The Lingering Pain of Foot Surgery

• Isaiah shares his history with a Lisfranc injury, highlighting how such foot issues can permanently alter a career. Quote:
  • “To this day, I still deal with that foot being jacked up...feet are complicated when it comes to recovering from surgeries, man, it sucks.” (Isaiah, 13:32–14:13)

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4. Defensive Coordinator Drama & 'Survival Instincts'

• Matt Eberflus (defensive play-caller) decides to move from the sideline to the booth to “change his view of things”—hosts question what difference this will actually make this late in the season. Quote:
  • “With three games remaining, he's gonna move from the sideline to the booth...hoping that creates a positive change. And I'm just gonna leave it there because I have thoughts...” (Patrick, 17:17)

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5. Bold Prediction Segment: “Get Your Popcorn Ready” (24:04)

• Segment Format: Movie-themed, each “ticket” is a bold stat prediction for Cowboys-Chargers:
  • “Survival of the Fittest”: The Chargers, led by Derwin James, hold Dallas under 20 points, signaling the “extinction” of Cowboys’ 2025 hopes.
  • “Herbie Unloaded”: Justin Herbert is sacked four times by Dallas’ pass rush.
  • “The Holdovers”: Dallas plays clean—zero turnovers and fewer than five penalties.
• Hosts’ Picks:
  • Patrick & Isaiah: “The Holdovers”—hoping for a clean, disciplined game.
  • Josh & Kyle: “Survival of the Fittest”—low faith in offense scoring over 20.
• Notable Moment:
  • “Your tickets are hard to buy...these things expensive!” (Isaiah, 27:17)
  • “I want...to see the Cowboys beat themselves anymore. I really want to see a sound game.” (Josh, 31:32)

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6. Who Needs Their Best Game to Save the Season? (31:10+)

• Eberflus gets called out as the coach with the most to prove.
• Defensive backs and linebackers are singled out—ravaged by injury, up against Herbert’s aggressive deep shot style.
• D-line also spotlighted. Osa is suggested as the likely “unsung hero” type, but some debate over who could truly surprise.

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7. Team Chemistry & Humorous Banter (“Say It With Your Chest”)

• There’s a running gag about “thin mints” (the Girl Scout cookie, referencing the thin DB depth chart).
• Colorful food takes (Werther’s > butterscotch, candy corn debates), inside jokes, and playful roasts (“renewal for your cookout card is coming!”).
• Notable: Extended, comedic confusion about a “Jersey Devil” sighting from a caller (48:00–49:30).
  • “You guys never heard of the Jersey Devil?” (Rob, Caller)

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8. Reality Check: Playoff Hopes and Tanking Narrative

• Patrick clarifies misconceptions: “NFL players do not tank, and coaches like Schottenheimer aren’t coaching them to tank...I don’t think they’re going to lay down.” (Patrick, 33:10)

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9. Pick’em Segment: Callers and Crew Predictions (from 40:45)

• Isaiah has an epic collapse in his picks score.
• Guest Picker “Rob in Jersey” joins and is led into hilarious Jersey Devil folklore confusion.
• Most hosts pick the Cowboys to lose to the Chargers, often by double digits:
  • Patrick: Chargers 35, Cowboys 24
  • Kyle: Chargers 27, Cowboys 17
  • Josh: Chargers 40, Cowboys 17
  • Isaiah: Chargers 38, Cowboys 16
• Rob, loyal fan, picks Cowboys 27–21.
• Quote:
  • “Cowboys give it their all...But the pass rush just has not been what it needs to be. So yeah, I think they give a valiant effort, but they’re just outmatched.” (Patrick, 50:49)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “It’s a dark era, guys. It’s a dark part of the season.” (Josh, 25:29)
• “If your D line is trash, you don't stand a chance.” (Isaiah, 33:44)
• “You’re thin-mint cornerbacked up.” (Patrick, 18:54)
• “Put an asterisk on the Cowboys’ expectation of him [Bland] starting training camp not on PUP, because now this is becoming a recurring issue.” (Patrick, 15:14)
• “The renewal for your cookout card is coming due.” (Patrick, 09:22)
• (on injury news): “Golf clap.” (Isaiah, 06:09)
• “That is unexpected. Osa—the Black Penta. Wakanda forever!” (Isaiah, 34:05)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Injury Report & Sample DB woes: 05:10–19:10
• Duron Bland Foot Injury Deep Dive: 11:26–17:10
• Coaching Adjustments & Eberflus to Booth: 17:10–18:50
• Get Your Popcorn Ready Bold Predictions: 24:04–31:10
• Best Position Group/Player to Step Up: 31:10–35:44
• Pick’em & Caller Segment: 40:45–51:48
• Final Game Picks & Score Predictions: 49:55–51:48

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Episode Tone & Vibe

Despite the dire Cowboys situation, the crew keeps things light with energetic banter, running inside jokes, and honest critique. While deep concern and skepticism about the future pervade, there's still a sense of camaraderie and commitment to finding positives amid the “extinction” of 2025 playoff hopes.

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For Listeners:

If you’re wondering how the Cowboys got here, who might still be fighting for roster/legal future, and what could possibly change with coaching or scheme tweaks, this episode offers both catharsis and critique—punctuated with plenty of laughs, food debates, and dire but realistic football takes.

Transcript

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Touchdown.

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It's on. Jake Ferguson. Touchdown. Keeps it and he bangs it in for the touchdown.

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And now your hosts, Isaiah Stanback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez and Kyle Yeomans. Listen here. Talking Cowboys Nation. Our talking Cowboys family. We love you guys.

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Sure do.

[B]

It is the holiday season. It is a season where we share all sorts of love with each other and we want to make sure that you know you are appreciated. If you were tuning in at 9am on this day when the playoffs are so thin, the chances probably out the window by the time you take the field coming up on Sunday, we know you're a diehard. So this makes this day a little extra special. And it might be the final time we get to do it here in 2025 with even the slightest of hope still alive for this season. So I need this to be with everything you got over the next 50 minutes because, yeah, we're gonna go long for a little bit today. Sorry, Chris Beam. It's going to be madness because this is. Say it with your chest for Friday.

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Here.

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I'm talking cow.

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Talking Cowboys.

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Bring the gear. Isaiah's fire.

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Cow. Sharp spear. And you'll see Josh roaring near from the top ropes.

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Down we dive. Every snap keeps us up. Say it with your chest. Scream it out. It's a. Say it with your chest. Friday in Week 16 of the NFL season, the Cowboys and the Chargers ready to take the field at AT&T Stadium. We got the whole cast and crew ready for you to rock today with Patrick no see Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah Stamback, Chris Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yeoman. So glad you're with us, everybody.

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Here we are.

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We're in the SWBC studios as always.

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That's right.

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Got to make sure that one's in there.

[D]

You said the playoffs are thin. I love Thin Mints. Thin Mints are good.

[B]

Do you like them this time of year, though? They're already like, kind of like cold.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Perfect.

[D]

I don't want A warm Thin Mint. Nobody wants a melted Thin Mint. No, but it's a Thin Mint, so it's still there.

[C]

Keep it in your pocket too long.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Keep it in the fridge, right?

[D]

Oh, absolutely.

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Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

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That's the number one way to do.

[C]

It in the freezer.

[D]

Remember when they on your pillow used to be on your pillow? You know?

[A]

Well, see you. You saying that just makes me wonder how much longer we as a civilization have to wait for the. The Girl Scout cookies to come back around. You know, it's a seasonal thing.

[D]

I did not partake last year.

[A]

I'm proud of you.

[D]

Thank you.

[A]

No, actually, nor did I, but I shall next time.

[B]

I always partake, so. Yeah, I may not this year.

[A]

I'm trying to cut, so. Me too.

[B]

It is cut and season.

[D]

Soon as the season's over, bro, your boy's about to go Slim Jim.

[A]

Yeah. Tell you that much, Meat stick.

[B]

I got my. I got my gym bag right here.

[D]

I got my special concoction right here.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You're going to lose five pounds just by drinking whatever the heck that is.

[C]

That's definitely a sponsor.

[B]

Correct. It just looks like you. You threw like a metal rod into a water.

[A]

Like prune juice.

[D]

It was just water. But you know what I did? I took a scoop of grounded black rifle coffee.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Dumped it right there. Shake that thing up your pre workout.

[D]

Take it to the head.

[A]

Take it to the head.

[B]

Did you eat? Good.

[E]

Get you some.

[B]

Welcome in, everybody. We are glad you're with us. Got some news and notes. But of course, later in the show we've got get your popcorn ready.

[C]

Oh, that's today?

[B]

That is today, dude.

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Oh, well, I got you.

[A]

Oh, good.

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Cool.

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Damn right. Is today.

[B]

Your popcorn's always ready. It's never stale. It's always fresh.

[D]

He's always buttered up.

[C]

Amen, brother.

[A]

Thanks to you, chubby and tubby.

[B]

If you don't get that reference, you're gonna have to go back to yesterday.

[C]

Just one episode. You know, it's not that smart.

[A]

You don't have to go very far.

[C]

We're like referencing ourselves after a single episode.

[B]

Sorry, guys.

[A]

Hey, you're either inside of the joke or you're dad.

[B]

All right, Pat, let's get into some news and notes.

[A]

All right, so we'll end with something that we need to discuss. Absolutely. But let's get right into the injury report for guys aren't potentially headed to ir. Okay, so Tyler Guyton still has not practiced. We'll see what he does today. But still not training in the right direction. Yesterday he was still on the bands with Brit Brown. So still not in pad, still on shells or anything. So it's just not looking like Tyler Guyton is going to be ready for Sunday. Concussion. Tyler Guyton? Yeah.

[D]

What was his ankle. Sorry.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ankle. Trying to keep up, but there were.

[B]

A couple of those.

[A]

There were. Speaking of. Yeah. Okay. So Quinn Williams and Hunter Lipke both are in concussion protocol, but they both practiced in limited capacity yesterday. So they obviously passed a couple of benchmarks in the protocol to be able to get on the field yesterday. So some good news there. They still need to pass the remaining benchmarks in order to be cleared, but they are making progress, which is definitely a good thing.

[D]

Golf clap.

[A]

Absolutely. Well, you don't like these words. CD Lamb missed second practice in a row. Hey, yo. With the illness. So, you know, he's. He's really battling that.

[C]

So we'll see if it's the same illness going around.

[A]

Yeah, I will say because it hit me. It hit Josh is it's going around.

[B]

Y' all gave CD Lamb an illness?

[A]

Is that what you're saying? I mean, sounds like it's just.

[C]

Is it when someone who talks to sessions, he talks to CD Lamb all the time, apparently. So maybe he did blame Patrick Nosy Walker. Please do it on Twitter and loud and often.

[A]

Throw it on the pile. Throw on the pile. I'm the reason of 671. So, yeah, CD Lamb, we'll see if he practices today. If not, that doesn't necessarily preclude him from playing because, again, it's not an actual physical injury. It is an illness. So CD Lamb, he's a veteran all pro. He could, you know, theoretically not practice at all this week and still take the field. Be all right against the other Chargers. So keep an eye there, guys who are making progress. Josh Butler making progress as he, you know, came back to practice on Wednesday. So now he's had two practices in a row. Trayvon Diggs continues to practice, albeit in a limited capacity. Cowboys have to make a decision on him by Saturday or they lose him or we revert. I should say the season ending.

[C]

Ir.

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Phil Mafa, he's making progress as well. Sivone Revel dealing with some soreness in his knee. I talked to you guys about that last week. I did speak with Savone Revel again, if that's okay with Josh.

[C]

It's not as impressive.

[A]

Damn.

[D]

Wow.

[B]

Damn. He's only played in like four games.

[A]

Jesus, don't devalue the work like that. God that's rough. It's. You mean a lot, Savone, but no Houma, East Carolina.

[C]

I was saying he talked to Dak yesterday.

[A]

Good and terrible. They're just trying to find a reason to do that thing. But no Sivone. Revel. He did tell me that he was dealing with a good bit of soreness last week. He did still play. He was limited Wednesday. Spoke with him Wednesday after practice, and he said he was working through it yesterday. He was in better spirits. I said, hey, so how's that going? He was like, yeah, it felt a lot better today, which was yesterday. And he was able to do more yesterday than the day before. So good news there.

[C]

We have a. A comment in the. The YouTube chat. Isaiah is so old, he keeps the thin mints in his pocket with his Werthers.

[A]

Those are awesome. You like those too, Mother Scotch.

[C]

Neither claims at all.

[D]

Let's go.

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He's like, no, bro, Those were in.

[D]

My grandma's little glass, little tray. Go in there. Honestly, grab one of those.

[A]

I really like the Werther's, though. I like just actual butterscotch in the gold wrapper. The unmarked gold wrapper. Yeah, that's better than wor.

[D]

I. I don't disagree.

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Yeah, that's better than word.

[D]

My grandma also had candy corn in that.

[A]

In that glass. I don't do candy corn.

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I didn't either, but my grandma told me to grab some.

[A]

Yeah, you would. Kyle, come on.

[B]

We've had this conversation. Yeah, I like candy corn.

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You like candy corn? You. You like sweet potato? I don't know, man.

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No, the. Hold on, hold on, hold on. People right now are googling.

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I don't know where they're going. I said, you like pumpkin over sweet potato pie.

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Yeah, it's about the same for me.

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Cow. You know what?

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Con is where the renewal for your.

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The renewal for your cookout card is coming.

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Oh, my God. You're getting me.

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It's coming.

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You know what I want the perfect response.

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For your cookout card is coming due, and we're going to have to have. You know what the.

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The perfect response is? I'm busy that day. I don't want to go.

[B]

I can't make it to the cookout.

[C]

I can't make it to your cookout anyway, Brother Kyle's. I got my own cookout to worry about. How about you worry about making it survive, huh?

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I'm having my own.

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This is what.

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And it's got candy corn. Oh, my God.

[A]

It's so awful. You probably eat black licorice. Too.

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My mom did that, bro. My mom in the hood. I used to have to walk to the corner store, Parnell's, bro, and go grab some black licorice and a dime bag of ginger.

[B]

No, I'm out on.

[C]

Did you.

[D]

Did they sell dime bags of ginger?

[A]

They sell dime bags, but not a.

[D]

It was dime bags.

[C]

Got to move on, Kyle. For me. Let's move on from that.

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Without the ginger.

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What you said. All right, you say beaver, so I.

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Said, I'm going to edit that without the ginger.

[C]

No, you're not.

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Get him. Get him, Bieber.

[C]

Okay, so talking Cowboys starts at 9, 10. Yeah, absolutely.

[A]

No, we've been talking cowboys this whole time. So speaking of things like, you know, black jelly beans and candy corn and other things that should. Should nauseate you because we said black jelly beans, black licorice, all the nasties, all the nasty things. I hate black pepper.

[B]

That's a reference that you have to know to know.

[A]

That's a reference you have to know to know. Okay, stop, stop.

[C]

I hate my gums.

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I'm tearing up.

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They so black. All right, man, listen, you. I'm trying, man.

[D]

I'm trying.

[A]

I'm trying because I know the reference, and it's in my head now, all right? I have actual water in my. Okay, listen. All right, so coming back to the injury report, things you don't like to see, including candy corn and the like.

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Don't you say it.

[A]

You don't like to see Daron Bland heading back to ir, which is likely going to happen with only three games remaining yesterday. Since you're going back to yesterday's episode to get in on the chubby and tubby inside joke, what you will also notice is I mentioned that Duron Bland showed up on the injury report with the foot issue. I did identify yesterday as the same foot that he had surgically repaired. I was like, the foot. I was like, yep, the foot. And it is looking as we feared in that the Josh Butler returning to practice window is not a coincidence. So it. It appears that Daron Bland is having some issues with that surgically repaired foot that could, in fact, require additional surgery on the foot. He's seeking a second and maybe even a third opinion before he moves forward with that. But as it stands on the conversations I had yesterday and listening to Brian Schottenheimer today on 153 the Fan, sounds like Duron Bland is heading to IR, but the expectation is that he will be ready for the start of training camp. Of course, you have to put an asterisk Next to that when you're talking about this foot with Duron Bland. Because now what I would just say is, let's just see how it goes in the off season.

[C]

I have a quote. He may be going wee, wee, wee all the way home due to that piggy.

[A]

See what you did there? Yeah. See what you did there?

[D]

Foot surgery.

[C]

That quote was for me.

[A]

I was about to say it was not. To be clear, that was not Brian Schottenheimer's before. I know that. The way he segued, that kind of made it seem like that was. No, Shotty did not. On 153 the Fan, there was no wee, wee, wee.

[D]

Remind me, what was the original injury?

[A]

Oh, it was. It was stress fracture. Yeah, yeah, stress fracture. The one that hit him right before the 2024 season. Cost him 10 games last season. So, yeah, it was. It was foot surgery.

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Sucks, man. I can't speak to a stress factor. I had a Liz Frank, a complete Liz Frank, coming into the draft, like Jordan. So when I got drafted by the Cowboys, I was recovering from my Liz Frank.

[A]

Right.

[D]

So they took a chance on me in that regard. I got back healthy. But I could tell you to this day. To this day, I still deal with that foot being jacked up.

[C]

You know what I'm saying?

[D]

I have to buy. I have to wear, you know, specific shoes. I can't just wear any pair of shoes. I have to be very conscious of what I'm wearing. If I'm wearing some flat shoes at the insoles all the time. There's days where I wake up and I'm like, limping, and my wife's like, what the heck is wrong with you? I'm like, the foot again. She's like, oh, the foot. I'm like, yeah, the foot. So I can say that feet are complicated when it comes to recovering from surgeries, man, it sucks, man. So I. I feel for him. I know how frustrated he must be because there's so many moving parts in there and you can't do anything right, especially as a defensive back.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Fetal complicated. Is that a race rankle? No, didn't do that one. I. I kind of hearken back to Duron. Bland's injury isn't as devastating as far as what occurred inside the foot as Liz Frank. Yeah, for sure. Or what Jordan Lewis had, which was actually worse than Liz Frank. Right. His bones shattered. He lost the arch in his foot. He had to have a custom cleat made with no arch. All of the things that you're saying. I remember yeah, but I say that to say all surgeries suck. Some suck more than others. Back surgery, like what Isaiah just went through a few months back, that sucks because it's on your core, your back. Everything moves through your back with your foot, it could be completely fine today, and then tomorrow you wake up and it's. It's. It's taut. It's not really flexing. It's painful. And he plays a position where there's a lot of cutting and breaking in and out of routes to try to, you know, get his coverage.

[B]

So jumping and landing also, so I.

[A]

Could see why it's cropped up again. But that's why I say put an asterisk on the Cowboys expectation of him starting training camp not on the PUP list, because now this is becoming a recurring issue.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

So sucks, man.

[B]

Is there anything to a second surgery in the same spot? We don't know if it's the same spot, but it could be the same foot. Same spot.

[A]

Whatever it is, it sounds like.

[D]

I can't speak to.

[A]

Sounds like it's the same spot. It could be Shotty said. Said on the fan this morning, he said it's over time. It wore down. That's the quote. Oh, I don't know medically what that means, and I'm not going to speculate, but it just sounds as if it's the same injury that just is regressing.

[C]

And wild over time. Being less than one year is alarming.

[A]

Yeah. So that's what I mean. So now it's just. Let's see what happens. What you're saying.

[D]

No, just. I can't speak to having a second surgery. My foot surgery took two surgeries, so the first surgery was to reattach all my ligaments and put my bone structure back in my foot back together. So they put three screws in there. During the rehab process, I actually broke my screws. Oh, yeah, that guy. And then the intent was to go in, remove those screws once your foot had actually formed back in the way it was supposed to once the ligaments are running. So I had two surgeries to put the screws in and then to pull the screws out what they could remove. At least for me, the second surgery sucks, obviously, but that was a part of my. My one surgery per se. You know what I'm saying that the original. This is doubling down on. So it's never a good thing when you have to go back to repair what you already repaired.

[B]

Right.

[D]

I've had three labrum shoulder surgeries, so I can speak to having to go back on that. And it was never the same. It still isn't the same. So I hope that's not his future. But it's not reassuring that they have to go back in on a foot.

[A]

It's not promising. And really quickly. So we can segue to the second segment, which I know this is something that you'll probably want to talk about in the second segment. Keeping to the defensive side of the ball. Let's go to the coach's side. Matt Eberflu spoke yesterday.

[B]

He did.

[A]

And he said that with three games remaining, he's gonna move from the sideline to the booth to change his view of things. And he's hoping that that creates a positive change. And I'm just gonna leave it there because I have thoughts that I will voice in the second segment.

[B]

Well, we've gotta get your popcorn ready in the second segment.

[A]

Oh, we do. So let me voice this real quick.

[B]

Go ahead and voice it.

[A]

Why'd you wait? Go ahead.

[B]

Okay. He also. One thing he did say yesterday too, was he felt like Trayvon Diggs practice. That was his quote. Trayvon Diggs looked good at practice. And that you can take that with a grain of salt and especially with salt.

[A]

Salt mine Salt flats in Salt Lake City.

[B]

The, the thought process there is. If Duron Bland is out, then you're expecting either Trayvon or Josh Butler to be available to fill him in.

[D]

Just, just to recap this, just make sure I have the right image. Duron Bland's out. As of right now. Trayvon Diggs is still out.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Rebel is still hurting from his surgery. Yeah, right. He doesn't sound like he's all the way back healthy either.

[B]

Still wearing a brace.

[A]

He's gonna need an off season.

[D]

Yeah, I, I completely agree. I think, I mean, we've said that before. Right. He, when I was watching him on film, didn't look healthy, red shirt. And now he's coming out and saying that he's dealing with soreness.

[C]

You got Kaylin Carson, who had probably his worst game of the season this last game.

[D]

Yeah. But. But health wise, there's three.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah. You're. You're thin men. You're thin mint.

[B]

Even Carson's been in and out of the lineup this year, too.

[A]

Yeah. You're thin mint cornerbacked up Chart.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So I, I, prior to back and sign Kyrie Elam.

[B]

No.

[D]

Gotta get to the second separate.

[B]

Prior to, prior to the, the news for Daron Bland, I think I was trending toward Trayvon non playing and just seeing his time with the Cowboys kind of fade off into the limelight. I think he's going to play this week based off of the availability and how thin you are at the position. You need a body. Just throw somebody out there and see what happens. And I think it would also diminish the story a little bit, too.

[D]

Sorry, you just. Did you just say just throw somebody out there, see what happens with the highest paid defensive player on your team?

[B]

Yeah, well, it's better than sitting him on the sidelines for three games.

[C]

But that's us saying that, you know, if that's the the decision made by staff in the front office. We're at story though.

[D]

Just throw somebody in there. How much is the contract? 97. Throw them in there.

[A]

Yeah.

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We want our popcorn.

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Get your popcorn ready.

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Thank you very much. You all know the deal. It's a bold prediction segment with a cinematic twist. I've got a triple faux film feature for y'. All because there are too many movies and you've got to choose, baby. And you only get one ticket each.

[B]

Only one?

[D]

I don't like those words.

[C]

You only got one ticket. Isaiah, that's how the world works, man. You only got time for one movie.

[A]

That's the dimebag talking.

[C]

All right, survival of the fittest is the first one.

[B]

Sorry, not to interrupt, but somebody in the chat was like, they didn't cut the audio in time. They thought that wasn't on purpose.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Definitely on purpose.

[C]

Definitely on purpose. All right, keep going.

[A]

All right.

[C]

Survival of the fittest is the first one. Phrase was originated from Darwinian evolutionary theory which describes natural selection where organisms best suited to their environment or more likely to survive while the less suited die out during evolution. There's a different species on the other side of the ball this week, and his name is Charles Derwin James, and he's out there hunting big game, trying to get the Cowboys receiving corps endangered. All right, the stat prediction is the Chargers Darwinian theory proves correct and holds the Cowboys under 20 points, making the way for evolution as the Cowboys 2025 season goes extinct.

[A]

Okay, all right.

[B]

That one felt like icy cold.

[C]

It's dark.

[B]

Nice. I expect like a rain in the middle of the night.

[C]

It's a dark era, guys. It's a dark part of the season anyways.

[A]

Darkness, everybody. Darkness.

[C]

Movie number two, Herbie unloaded. Talk about a get right game for the Chargers. O line, Nana. This ain't the love bug. LA is gonna need to take that Volkswagen into the shop because it ain't built for tough Justin Herbert bombs Sunday afternoon like the box office for a terrible Disney remake starring Lindsay Lohan.

[A]

What do you got against?

[B]

That was an awesome movie you got against.

[C]

That's a terrible movie.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah, it had NASCAR in it. I was all for it. I loved that movie.

[C]

No, nothing like the original. All right, stat prediction is Justin Herbert is sacked four times.

[A]

Not taking that ticket.

[B]

That tickets gonna go unclaimed.

[F]

Wow.

[C]

All right, fine. The Holdovers, guys. We did a Christmas movie, right? So the Holdovers, those who've been eliminated can start planning their vacations, get time away, get their Christmas plans in order. But the Cowboys aren't technically out yet. It's like watching everybody else play outside while you're hammering away at extra credit assignments because you didn't quite get it right during the season.

[A]

There you go.

[C]

Because he didn't quite get it right during the season. Can we all find the silver lining? Can we make shift a family and still have Merry Christmas? Can Paul Giamatti find love? That's the actual movie, actually. But the idea here is the Dallas Cowboys, they rally together. They create a brotherhood, a family for this Christmas time. And they commit zero turnovers and fewer than five penalties because they've been averaging eight per game.

[A]

Man, your tickets are hard to buy.

[B]

Man.

[A]

Did you raise the price on these tickets? These things expensive.

[C]

It is the holiday season, after all.

[A]

It is. So test the season. The price gouge against it. Go run through them.

[E]

All right.

[C]

The holdovers. Dallas commits zero turnovers in less than five penalties. Herbie unloaded where he's sacked four times. Justin Herbert and Survival of the Fittest, starring Charles Derwin James holding the Dallas Cowboys to under 20 points.

[A]

You know what? I'll take the. I'm going to go with the holiday movie. Oh, I'm going to go to holiday movie. I think that the Cowboys will mount up and play a little bit more disciplined football. Not perfect. It's not going to be perfect.

[B]

That's nearly perfect. Zero sacks and five less than five penalties. That's quite perfect football.

[C]

No.

[A]

Zero.

[C]

Zero turnover.

[B]

Oh, sorry. Zero turnover. Okay. I thought it was zero.

[A]

Yeah. You scared me because I was about to return that for a gift.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If they had zero sex, I was like, I misheard. No. Yeah.

[C]

It's a team stat.

[B]

That makes more sense.

[A]

Yeah. So zero turnovers, less than five penalties. I think that's. That's possible. As they try to end the. The season at home on a high note. I mean, ended at home. Being that this is their final home game, I think they want to do their best to go out on a high note at home.

[C]

That's we don't get a playoff game.

[A]

Pat trick.

[C]

That's if we don't get a playoff game.

[A]

Yeah. So it's the final game. And I do think they play cleaner football. Do I think they play clean football? Not so much. So I'll buy that ticket.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

The holdovers.

[A]

The holdovers. Give me the holdovers.

[C]

It's a great movie, though. Please watch it.

[A]

Give me matinee.

[C]

Okay, fair enough.

[B]

I'm taking the Derwin movie.

[C]

Survival of the fittest.

[B]

Survival of the fittest.

[C]

They're holding Dallas to under 20 points.

[B]

I hate to say it. Yeah, I do. You got CD Lamb coming off an illness. I don't know if this is necessarily the Jordan flu game for. For CD Lamb. I mean, this is. It's the end of the season. We'll see what happens on Saturday. Going into this matchup, I'm. I'm not as hopeful and this is going to just look ahead to my pick in the final segment, but I'm not as hopeful for this Cowboys offense against this Chargers defense. I think It's a bad matchup, so.

[C]

I think it's a bad matchup on multiple fronts, but.

[B]

Yeah, absolutely. But definitely on that matchup.

[D]

You, bro.

[B]

What?

[D]

Can't believe they were picking the same movie.

[B]

That's kind of where I'm at.

[C]

Survival of the fittest.

[D]

I. I thought about probable.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Of the three selections.

[B]

I thought about the Herbie movie just because the. They've been so bad. Pressure wise. But we talked about that earlier in the week as well. Where is it going to come from? Where is the pressure going to happen? Maybe.

[A]

Maybe.

[C]

Hopefully Kenny Clark.

[B]

Kenny Clark.

[C]

Hopefully.

[B]

We'll see what Quinn Williams.

[A]

If he's clear.

[C]

But he's in. But Floose is in the booth, guys.

[B]

Yeah. I'm gonna take the. The survival of the.

[A]

So was Colin Farrell.

[B]

So was Mike Nolan.

[A]

At different times. That was a phone.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Strong.

[C]

Strong. Oh, yes. Adapt or die. Dallas Cowboys 2025. Season is almost coming to an end. Get your popcorn ready. It's gonna be show.

[B]

Oh, we picked them all before you got to wrap up.

[C]

That's all right.

[D]

Sorry.

[B]

What would you have chosen?

[C]

I think I'm going with. I want to desperately buy a ticket to the holdovers. I want to see just a clean game. I want to see awesome. I don't want to see the Cowboys beat themselves anymore. I really want to see a sound game. I want Shotty to have a perfect game. I really, really do. I think that would be very important, especially, you know, considering these are the last three games of the season and you need that sort of momentum going into an offseason. Like, you want to have positivity. You want to look forward to something whether you're out of the playoffs or not. I just don't necessarily think that's going to happen against this Chargers team. I think there's still time to have that perfect game, but against the Chargers, I don't see it.

[B]

So you mentioned shoddy there. Outside of Shotty, who needs to have their best game of the season for Dallas to end up winning this football game?

[D]

Eberfluss.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah, that's. That's that.

[C]

That's fair.

[A]

That's that.

[B]

What about.

[A]

I mean, it's good. It's a good thing. The booth will power him up. Everything will be all right.

[C]

I mean.

[B]

Mushroom block ahead of you.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

In tandem with that, though, I feel like your linebacker core needs to have a great game. I really do. I think that needs to be a focus going forward, because if you can get that right with this unit again, it's Just you want to carry over that momentum, at least for the last few games and then also into the season. I'll tell you, they can get right here or here.

[A]

I'll tell you you're not wrong about the linebackers, but I think who needs to have a bigger game than the linebackers is the same core of players that is being ravaged by injury and uncertainty. And that's your cornerbacks. That's your cornerbacks. We talked about Kenan Allen, some of these other guys, and how Justin Herbert often will just throw it up and say, I know my guys down there somewhere because they can, you know, new word from yesterday out. Athleticize you. Right. So the Cowboys are just in dire straits in the secondary, particularly at cornerback. It's just. It's not a good matchup. It's just not. So Iberflus is going to have to coordinate out of his mind. In addition to the fact that the players who are being tasked with stepping up Kaylin, Carson, Simone, revel the like, they're going to have to play out of their mind. If Josh Butler is activated, guess what? First game back after having not played in over a year, he's going to have to play out of his mind. Trayvon Diggs, if he's the one activated and he has a lot on the line going into this off season, he's going to have to play out of his. There's a lot of players and individuals, I'm saying, have to play and coach out of their mind to win this game, and I just don't see it.

[D]

Are you ready?

[A]

Too many. Too many things have to be perfect. Yeah.

[C]

And that's not a good thing.

[A]

Belly. No, it's not a good thing. It's not a good thing. It's not a good thing. So I do think they'll play hard. And check out the Science Lab column from this week on the.com.com where I talked about why NFL players do not tank and. And why coaches like Brian Schottenheimer are not going to coach them to tank. So I don't think they're going to lay down. I don't think they're going to give it their best effort. But what does that look like? Guess we're about to find out.

[B]

Oh, this is a really good article online, by the way.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Took a look at it this morning. Good stuff.

[A]

It does.

[B]

What do you think, Isaiah? Best position group that needs to step up in order to win.

[D]

D line. If your D line is trash, you don't stand a chance.

[C]

If your D Line's what trash.

[A]

Give me one person on the defensive line that you think steps up and has a great game. That is unexpected. Osa. Osa. The Black Penta Wakanda forever.

[D]

Osa's been, he's been OSA Femi. Osa. I think osa's been overlooked obviously since the new additions have showed up. So I think that this is.

[A]

But would that be unexpected though? I'm trying to give you a say. Yeah, I'm trying to give him a say with his chest moment.

[B]

He literally grabbed his chest.

[A]

Yes, that's fair. But he grabs his chest every day for one reason or another.

[D]

Has there been a game this year where you're like, oh, also OSA balled out.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

When?

[A]

Now you're going to make me look. But I remember there were a couple Raiders.

[B]

Yeah, he bowled out in the Raiders.

[C]

Raiders game. And then, and then Philly.

[A]

That stretch. Yeah, that three game stretch.

[D]

Okay, when he's another three game stretch.

[A]

You'Re going to say something a bit more spicy.

[B]

Who, who would you classify as reach?

[A]

Don't you Unexpected. Not with potential. But maybe in pass rush I could. If Ezraku can get one and a half sex. I think that would be saying it with my chest. And unexpected. And unexpected. Yeah.

[B]

Just because he hasn't provided the pass for us.

[A]

Right, right. And because they're now putting him in.

[D]

That against these monsters of men up front.

[B]

Well, they're not the same monsters, all right. It's not that banned. It's. It's like the backups. There's no Rashan Slater. There's no Joe Alt. Like they're not the same.

[A]

Isaiah was over there double handing thing. But what, what man? No koi. Isaiah go to break.

[C]

No go to break.

[D]

We got pick.

[B]

We do have pickums coming up. But what are you going to say?

[A]

What do you say with the cable guy list?

[B]

They've given up more pressures, quarterback hits and sacks than any offensive line in the league by like a lot.

[A]

I just want to know why you said it with the cable guy lisp.

[D]

Yeah, you knew.

[B]

All right, we are going to go to break. When we come back give us a call. 888-855-2297 Our pick em segment and we will get you on the phone line when we come back with more talking cowboys right after this.

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[A]

It does.

[D]

There it is.

[B]

That would count. That would certainly count, Kyle.

[C]

That would count.

[B]

Thank you.

[C]

That would count.

[D]

What about this necklace?

[B]

Yeah, I think so. If you put like an actual necklace on it.

[D]

Yeah, it is.

[A]

Put a string. Put a string.

[B]

Tie it. Dreadlocks. I like it, but. Oh hey, I like you, man.

[D]

Show them who you are today.

[A]

It's Wakanda forever. Yes. Mafa Masa.

[B]

The entire day yesterday, entire day after our show, whenever Isaiah started making the Oba Femi references which is a WWE NXT star. Just a monster of a man. For those that may not know.

[C]

Did he play defensively?

[B]

Yes, he was a shot putter at like Alabama. He, he's massive. He was walking around the office showing everyone he possibly could the video of what he's referencing, including Nate Newton. And Nate was like bring him in, bring him in. Let's get him up front.

[C]

We need him.

[B]

He's like 350 jacked. It's pretty wild. All right, it's our pick them segment. We do it every week. We pick six games including five non Cowboys game and then the Cowboys game with the score. But before we get into our pickums, it's time for a Beamer Bul bulletin. All right, guys. Isaiah, rough one boy. Your pick them game. The last two weeks have been rough trash. You went one and five last week.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The last two weeks you've gone. Let me do the math.

[D]

One in 11.

[B]

One and 11.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So you've lost the lead to Josh and the fans.

[A]

What a collapse. What a monument.

[B]

And it looks like Kyle and Patrick are still tied for last. Brothers, baby.

[D]

So I'm still in second place.

[A]

Fusion.

[B]

Yeah, you're well rebuild third.

[A]

Third Place, really. I'm my eyes. Yeah. Because I'm rebuilt through third place.

[C]

You still get a first round pick.

[A]

Epic collapse now.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Falling apart.

[A]

Just.

[B]

Just like the Los Angeles Rams last night. But, oh, what the pick better, bro. That game, Isaiah Wild.

[C]

That was not a two point conversion.

[A]

Goodness.

[B]

You don't think so?

[A]

Yes, it was. It was a best.

[D]

It was.

[A]

No, it was a bad.

[C]

I refuse. You can't advance a fumble.

[B]

But he picked it up in the end zone. I don't like it.

[A]

He just picked it up.

[B]

Picked it up.

[C]

I don't like it.

[D]

He picked up the cup.

[A]

That was a hell of a game.

[B]

That game was.

[A]

And magical. McVeigh, he's got some questions to answer.

[C]

I turned it off after that second red zone interception. I was like, oh, okay. I'm going to bed up.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

We were calling the game over last night, and my engineer in the back of the booth was watching it because he had taken the Seahawks money line, like, plus one. And he was like, oh, man, I'm gonna lose money. Like, I just. I can't believe this. Because it was like 30. What is it, 30 to 14. At one point, he's like, oh. And then like we did one segment, one segment of the. Of the broadcast last night from. From like the start of the third quarter to the middle of the third quarter. When we went to break, he just like hopped on our headset and came goes, it's tied. We were like, wait, what? It was that quick? It was a wild game.

[A]

Yes, it was.

[B]

All right. Our guest picker today, his name is Rob in Jersey. What up, Rob?

[G]

Rob, hey, how you doing?

[B]

Good to have you on. Appreciate you calling.

[G]

Well, it seems like I'm the only one that did call.

[B]

At least right now that's the case. We only got two phone lines. That's why that's all we got. So.

[G]

So we.

[B]

We've got you on the line and we are going to have you for these next six games. Let's start with the packers and the Bears.

[A]

Patrick.

[B]

No, see, Walker's going to get us.

[A]

Started in the Bears, man. They. Their last matchup, the North. Oh, that was something. That was something to watch.

[D]

I don't know.

[A]

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I don't think. I don't see the packers sweeping them. I think the Bears get their lick back. I think the Bears get their lick back on this one. I'm taking in Chicago.

[B]

I like you, Josh.

[C]

I've been on the bandwagon of 11 wins for the Chicago Bears since the beginning of this season. So let me go Bears.

[D]

Give me Al Harris. Ooh.

[B]

I'm gonna take the Packers. I'm gonna try and gain a game here. I'm gonna take the pack on the road to get it done. No, Micah get the win. No, Micah, no problem.

[D]

It will.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I hope he gets. Man, I hope he comes back. I really do. All right. Vikings at the Giants. Vikings at Giants. Oh, that was cool.

[A]

Quick. And this will be as well.

[B]

I'm gonna take the Vikes as well. Give me Minnesota.

[A]

No, that's not what she says, Josh.

[B]

Vikings and who the. The Giants.

[C]

Vikings.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And while you're laughing, Isaiah, I forgot to go to packers and Bears with. With Rob. What's your. What's your pick for packers and Bears?

[G]

Packers.

[B]

Okay, good. So you and I are. Are in lockstep.

[D]

All right.

[B]

Go back to Vikings.

[D]

Brian Flores.

[B]

Brian Flores and the Vikings. What do you think, Rob?

[G]

I'm gonna go with the Vikings too.

[C]

All right.

[B]

Buccaneers at Panthers. Crucial game in the NFC South.

[D]

Yeah, buddy.

[B]

Really big time game. They're playing for their playoffs.

[C]

Isaiah.

[B]

What?

[D]

You got the books?

[C]

Give me the Panthers to pounce.

[B]

You're going to get against Baker Mayfield.

[C]

He's so hot right now.

[A]

Is he? But you're going against him.

[C]

No, he's not.

[A]

He's not.

[B]

Not playing too hot.

[C]

Panthers just really handsome.

[A]

Panthers recently have had some moments where it's just like, what? And they've looked like the normal Carolina. So I'm going with the Bucks and Baker Mayfield this time.

[B]

Second game back for Mike Evans. I think he starts to click again. Give me the Buccaneers.

[D]

Rob, another good receiver over there too.

[A]

Place.

[G]

I'm gonna go with the Panthers.

[B]

Going with the Panthers. Good pick.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

This is a stinker game. We've got some good ones. And we got some stinkers. This is another stinker. Falcons at Cardinals.

[D]

Give me Kurt Gobain.

[C]

What?

[A]

Just say the.

[B]

And the Falcons say the damn.

[A]

Just say the team.

[B]

Is that the Falcons?

[D]

Yes.

[B]

Okay. Cool quarterback. Their starting quarterback is Kirk Cottage cousins. Kurt Cobain is not a part of that. He's from Seattle, though, right? That's right. Okay.

[A]

Oh, my.

[B]

What do you think, Josh?

[C]

It smells like teen spirits. I'm also going with the Falcons.

[D]

I'm with you, brother.

[B]

I'm gonna. I'm gonna say the Cardinals randomly win one. I'm gonna go with Arizona Cardinals too. Okay. So we're gonna be tied at the end. The bottom of the list again. Here we go.

[D]

And I'm st.

[A]

Still beating you.

[B]

That's true. All right, Rob, what you got?

[G]

Can I say a tie?

[B]

I mean, you can. You might not get it right, but if you do, that would be wild.

[A]

I almost had one last night.

[B]

No, tied at.00.

[A]

Seattle's got cojones.

[G]

I'll go with the Falcon.

[B]

Unlike that lafleur going with the Falcons. All right, Patriots and the Ravens. Oh.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

This was a good one.

[C]

Patriots. Easy.

[D]

Wow.

[C]

Easy, easy money.

[B]

I'm taking New England here as well. I don't think it's easy. I think it's gonna be a good game. But give me the Patriots.

[A]

I'm taking Baltimore.

[D]

This one be more.

[A]

Yeah, I think this is a.

[B]

Now, do you guys.

[A]

This is a.

[D]

No.

[A]

This is a Jim Harbaugh culture game. Like.

[B]

Yeah, that's right.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You say Jim Harbaugh.

[A]

I'm John.

[D]

John.

[A]

John.

[B]

There's too many Harbaughs this week, man.

[A]

It's John.

[C]

Two Harbaughs don't make a room.

[A]

All right, One definitely doesn't.

[B]

Rob.

[A]

Ask Michigan, man.

[B]

The Patriots taking the Patriots.

[C]

All right, wait, hold on. Before you ask about the Cowboys, I want to ask Rob a question.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Rob, have you seen the Jersey Devil?

[G]

Yes, I have.

[C]

Please, briefly, can you briefly tell us about the Jersey Devil and where you saw it and how.

[A]

Oh, Lord.

[G]

My goodness. Man, we're going back. We're going back to the 1980s. Oh, my goodness.

[C]

Where did you. Where did you see him?

[G]

I saw them in. In East Rutherford and back then. Back then what?

[C]

Like, what did it look like?

[G]

It's horrible.

[C]

You guys never heard of the Jersey Devil?

[G]

Yeah. You never heard of the Jersey Devil?

[B]

A legendary creature from South Jersey. Forklore, said to inhabit the Pine Barrens. Described as a winged kangaroo like beast with a horse's head, bat, wings, hooves, and a forked tail, originating from the cursed 13th child of mother leads in 1735.

[A]

Wait, so you mean to tell me, and I'm asking this seriously because I'm.

[B]

A. I thought you were just talking about the hockey team.

[A]

I said so. The hockey team is named after that. The hockey team is named after that.

[C]

It's a man myth. I mean, it's urban legend, but. But he's seen it.

[A]

Oh, yeah. The south knows nothing of that. Yeah, we have our own.

[C]

That's all. I just want to know if you've seen it.

[D]

I just thought we were talking about the Northwest.

[A]

Yeah, we have. Yeah.

[B]

He saw the hockey.

[G]

That type of devil. I've never seen that type of devil.

[D]

He was talking about the hockey game.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

He was talking about the hockey I watch.

[B]

They play Islanders one night on, like, a Tuesday, like in the 80s, 1986.

[D]

I got a pair of free tickets.

[A]

They play the Chupacabras. Like, oh, man, I'm sorry.

[C]

It's of the same family.

[D]

I'm.

[A]

I'm.

[B]

I'm going to apologize for Josh and his forklore. Rob, I appreciate you. Wow, brother, this guy stinks.

[C]

It's interesting. Watch a YouTube video. Check it out.

[D]

You caught him all the way off guard.

[A]

He was like, oh, yeah.

[D]

Did I get those free tickets?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And Rob is like, I'm never calling this show ever again.

[A]

I even remember who was in the penalty box.

[B]

All right, Rob, let's go. Cowboys, Chargers at. AT&T Stadium, noon kickoff on Fox. Who you got in the game and what's the score?

[G]

Oh, I'm gonna live and die by the Cowboys. I just got to. Regardless.

[A]

Let's see.

[G]

27, 21, 27, 21.

[B]

Cowboys. Appreciate you, Rob.

[D]

Rob was like, yeah, You've never heard of that before?

[G]

All right, guys.

[C]

Later, buddy.

[B]

Appreciate you calling.

[C]

God bless. Watch out for the devil.

[A]

You guys never heard of hockey se.

[D]

Before.

[A]

You set him up. Josh, you didn't mean to, but you. You set Rob up to fail.

[B]

That was classic.

[D]

So much confusion.

[B]

For whoever's listening right now, I.

[D]

So much confusion.

[B]

That's so funny.

[A]

No, just like.

[D]

You know what, dude?

[A]

I'm so not from up there. What you got?

[B]

Cowboys. Chargers.

[A]

I think Cowboys give it their all. I think they play a cleaner game. They're going to do everything they can to leave with a win in their final home game of the season. However, we talked about the cornerback situation, and the past rush just has not been what it needs to be. So, yeah, I think they give a valiant effort, but they're just outmatched. Yeah, they're outmatched. So I'm taking Chargers here. You know, that's just the fanboy in me. Chargers, 35, Cowboys 24.

[B]

I'm going to do Cowboys fall 27, 17. Chargers winning. Josh.

[C]

Chargers. 40. Cowboys.

[A]

Oh, 20.

[C]

No, 17.

[A]

Wow.

[E]

God.

[B]

40 to 17.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You think it's gonna be that type of day?

[C]

It's gonna be bad.

[A]

Oh, man. I at least took them down off the 40.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

Check out my 40, homie.

[B]

What you think, Isaiah?

[A]

Wow.

[D]

38, 16. Chargers.

[B]

Okay. Hoodie in the chat said 56, 55. Cowboys in an instant clock classic.

[C]

So that was your.

[B]

It might be.

[A]

That would be fun.

[B]

We're going to end on a. On a high note here. On Talking Cowboys. That's going to do it for us this week. Hope you had some fun with us. Hope you got some laughs, some info, some things that can make you the smartest in the room. Coming up this weekend, be sure to join Isaiah, Barry oh no. Barry. This week, Isaiah, Nate and I for Cowboys pregame live 11am Central Time. You can catch us on Dallas Cowboys.com and then if you're local in the Dallas Fort Worth metroplex, you can find us on TXA21 1 as well. But that's going to do it for us. Noon Kickoff Cowboys Chargers on Fox for Patrick no See Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah, stand back. Chris Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long. We'll see you next week with more Talking Cowboys. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys.com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

[A]

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[B]

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