Talkin’ Cowboys: Feeling Things Out

Summary

Talkin’ Cowboys: Feeling Things Out

Podcast: Talkin' Cowboys
Date: September 9, 2025
Hosts: Kyle Yeomans, Patrick “Nosey” Walker, Isaiah Stanback, Josh Rodriguez, Chris Beam

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Episode Overview

This lively edition of Talkin’ Cowboys, recorded at The Star in Frisco, Texas, marks a high-energy Talking Tuesday. The full crew returns to discuss the Cowboys’ recent roster moves, the aftermath of the Week 1 loss to the Eagles, and preview the upcoming matchup with the New York Giants. The show features in-depth breakdowns, listener calls, candid reactions, and notable commentary on team culture, player development, and the Cowboys’ path forward in the 2025 season.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Podcast Banter, Culture, and Dedication

• The crew opens with playful debate about the prowess of Talkin' Cowboys versus other in-house Dallas Cowboys podcasts, playfully staking claim as the “best in the building.”
• There’s a strong emphasis on their collective film study habits and focus on providing informed, authentic analysis.
  • Isaiah Stanback: “There are levels of everything...and Talkin' Cowboys just happen to be at the peak.” ([03:19])
  • Chris Beam: “Who's here at 7 AM watching film in the training table?” ([03:29])

2. Cowboys Roster Updates

• Perrion Winfrey placed on IR (back injury) — out for minimum four games.
• Ongoing roster speculation due to open spot—possible moves in free agency or practice squad elevations.
• Mozzie Smith likely to remain inactive; Jerry Jones expressed as much during a radio appearance, though there’s debate if Jones misunderstood the question.
  • Patrick Walker: “Unless Mozzie’s dealing with an injury that we don’t know about, then there’s a conversation to be had.” ([05:51])
• Strong praise for rookie Jay Toia emerging from coaching staff and Jones.

3. Defensive Line Depth and Free Agency Talk

• Discussion on need for additional impact D-linemen, referencing past team success (Giants’ Super Bowl run and Washington’s D-line rotation model).
• Free agent initials “CW” (reportedly Christian Wilkins, though not named outright) suggested by Isaiah Stanback as a dream addition, citing his versatility and ability to push the defensive front to dominance.
  • Isaiah Stanback: “You can never have enough impact D-linemen...if you know that your position group of depth right now currently on defense is at the linebacker level, how does it hurt you having more guys up front?” ([10:46])
• Concerns raised about fit, locker room culture, health, and why such a high-impact free agent remains unsigned.

4. Micah Parsons Trade Fallout and Defensive Analysis

• Recap of trade, including report that Eagles offered a significant package (three first-round picks, a third, a fifth, and more) for Parsons—hard “no” from Dallas.
  • Patrick Walker: “There was no counteroffer from The Cowboys to the Eagles because that was a hard no no matter how you looked at it.” ([13:13])
• Parsons debuted for Green Bay, immediately making an impact; team and fan reactions range from optimism (Cowboys’ own pass rush) to realism (missing elite talent).
• Pressures applied against Jalen Hurts and the strengths of the new D-line rotation are highlighted.
  • Isaiah Stanback: “If you can have one of the most feared D-lines in the league...do it, do it, do it.” ([15:56])

5. Cowboys’ Run Game Evaluation

• Mixed reviews for the run game versus Eagles: improved but not perfect, with strong offensive line play and promising push.
• Javonte Williams singled out for effectiveness; calls for more varied usage, especially integrating Jaden Blue.
  • Patrick Walker: “He made the most...I would have liked to see a few more handles.” ([24:37])
  • Isaiah Stanback: “Love the scheme. You got a lot of Wham blocks...If your receivers block on the next level, that's really what it's going to come down to.” ([26:30])

6. Weekly Opponent Lookahead: New York Giants

• Despite the Giants’ Week 1 loss, hosts and callers warn against complacency due to impressive Giants D-line and potential for quick turnaround.
  • Patrick Walker: “Get out to a fast start. It's your home opener. Choke them out…by the time you get to hopefully the third quarter, they can't breathe and it's game over.” ([31:56])

7. Listener Calls: Fan Concerns and Positivity

Structured segments take listener questions and comments, providing insight into fan perspectives and furthering football discussions:

Sample Notable Call Highlights

• Mike in New York: Lauds the run game, concerns about CeeDee Lamb drops.
• Nebby in Silver Spring: Stresses playoff potential and wary of Giants' D-line.
• Lester in Minnesota: Praises improved offensive line scheme, requests more targets for George Pickens.
• Dan in Florida: Highlights Terrence Steele, questions Mozzie Smith's future.
• John in Alaska: Asks for Rookie of the Year predictions (Tyler Booker favored).
• Jim in Pasadena: Wants a “home run hitter” RB, but hosts decline trading picks for one.

8. Discipline and Culture Under New Regime

• Listeners and panel note reduction in pre-snap penalties and overall discipline, attributing it to a positive cultural shift:
  • Hoodie Kush: “Is that not refreshing? Does that not speak to the discipline and culture of what this new regime is implementing?” ([49:15])
• Only one pre-snap penalty vs. the Eagles; emphasis on clean play and accountability from coaches.

9. Roster, Personnel Trust, and Patience

• The panel urges patience on both defense and offense with new rookies, explaining limited Week 1 action as caution versus the reigning champs.
• September football cautioned as not entirely predictive of season outcomes; emphasis on waiting at least four games for meaningful trends.

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Memorable Quotes

• Isaiah Stanback (on D-line rotation):
  “When I was with the Giants and we won the Super Bowl, a major reason was the rotation at the defensive line position...you can never have enough impact D-linemen.” ([09:39])
• Patrick Walker (on Parson trade):
  “There was no counteroffer from The Cowboys to the Eagles because that was a hard no.” ([13:13])
• Chris Beam (on penalty discipline):
  “Last year you averaged 7.5 [penalties] per game. There you go, right there.” ([50:06])
• Kyle Yeomans (on patience):
  “Week one is not an indicator of what the rest of the season is going to be...September football is September football for a reason.” ([53:40])

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Key Segment Timestamps

• Podcast/Culture Banter: 02:46–04:05
• Roster/IR Moves: 04:06–06:55
• D-Line Free Agent Discussion: 08:58–12:29
• Micah Parsons Trade/Eagles Offer: 13:11–15:56
• Run Game Analysis: 23:39–27:10
• Calls Begin (Mike in NY): 23:04
• Giants D-Line/Next Opponent Discussion: 31:13–32:44
• Calls: Lester, Dan, John, others: 32:18–48:02
• Discipline/Penalty Culture: 49:15–51:17
• Final Fan Calls & Wrap-Up: 51:39–54:48

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Final Thoughts

Talkin’ Cowboys: Feeling Things Out offers a detailed look at early-season Cowboys realities—with roster news, fan feedback, and frank debate. The hosts combine film study with humor, highlighting the importance of culture, cautious optimism, and measured team development. Listener engagement underscores the fan base’s passion and aligns with the show's mix of technical insight and authentic, high-spirited Cowboys coverage.

Transcript

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[Josh Rodriguez]

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[Josh Rodriguez]

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[Isaiah Stanback]

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[Kyle Yeomans]

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[Josh Rodriguez]

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[Isaiah Stanback]

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[Kyle Yeomans]

And now your hosts, Isaiah Stanbach, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez and Kyle Yeomans. It's a talking Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys presented by Black Rifle Coffee company, live from the Star in Frisco, Texas and the SWBC studios. Welcome in, everybody. We've got the whole cast and crew ready for you to rock today.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Patrick.

[Kyle Yeomans]

No, see, Walker is back in the building. Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah. Stand back with his back brace. And that's right, Chris Beam in the back, as always, back in business. I'm Kyle Yeomans.

[Chris Beam]

What's up, Kyle?

[Kyle Yeomans]

What's up, gentlemen? It's always good to have the full crew.

[Patrick Walker]

Here it is. You guys cooked yesterday.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Thanks, guys.

[Patrick Walker]

Cooked yesterday.

[Kyle Yeomans]

We missed you.

[Chris Beam]

We didn't have a show yesterday.

[Patrick Walker]

You're a liar.

[Isaiah Stanback]

We had a microwave yesterday. Today we have a whole oven.

[Patrick Walker]

That's right.

[Isaiah Stanback]

You know why?

[Kyle Yeomans]

Why?

[Isaiah Stanback]

What is today called, Kyle?

[Kyle Yeomans]

It is Talking Tuesday.

[Isaiah Stanback]

That means get out your cellular devices and get on the line. Shoot us a call. We want to talk to you people. It's been too long.

[Patrick Walker]

Holler at us.

[Kyle Yeomans]

It has been a long time. I was just saying when Josh yesterday on the show we had not rehearsed, he was like, oh, what's the phone number to call? And I was like, 888-855-2297. And I remember being surprised at myself that I was able to.

[Chris Beam]

It's impressive.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Make it happen, but it actually is.

[Chris Beam]

888 TLK CBYS.

[Kyle Yeomans]

There you go.

[Chris Beam]

The only phone number named after a podcast on this in this entire building. And guess what? It's talking cowboy.

[Patrick Walker]

It's almost like this is the best podcast in the building.

[Chris Beam]

I don't know.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Almost.

[Patrick Walker]

Actually, you do know.

[Isaiah Stanback]

What do you mean almost?

[Chris Beam]

It's arguable.

[Isaiah Stanback]

I didn't mean arguably. It is arguable.

[Patrick Walker]

Patrick, who's Arguing. Everybody.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Everyone.

[Patrick Walker]

That's true.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Kyle Yeomans]

That's how it all goes.

[Chris Beam]

Why can't we have peace?

[Isaiah Stanback]

Do you think that there's another podcast on this platform that collectively watches film?

[Chris Beam]

No, collective.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Collectively.

[Patrick Walker]

Collectively.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Not saying individuals. I'm saying collectively.

[Chris Beam]

Yes.

[Isaiah Stanback]

You think there's another. Another podcast that can compete with us on that level?

[Patrick Walker]

On any.

[Chris Beam]

Compete is a. It's a different. It's a spectrum. Right. But I'm saying I think there are a lot of podcasts that watch film on this. And as a. As someone that works on all of the shows sort of in the background. Yeah, I. We have really good shows on here, for sure.

[Isaiah Stanback]

No, I'm not here for the.

[Chris Beam]

The slight.

[Isaiah Stanback]

No. But there's levels.

[Chris Beam]

There are levels to this.

[Isaiah Stanback]

There's levels of everything. Every industry, every profession, every skill set. There's levels. And talking cowboys just happened to be at the peak.

[Chris Beam]

I like it.

[Patrick Walker]

I'm here.

[Chris Beam]

I mean, who's here at 7am watching film in the. The training table?

[Isaiah Stanback]

I know one guy.

[Patrick Walker]

Listen, I'm here for their slights when it comes to one pot in particular. But that's only because they throw shade.

[Chris Beam]

Hey.

[Patrick Walker]

But they're not worth mentioning. So.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I don't even like having this conversation. I do lie because people came here to listen about the talking Cowboys.

[Isaiah Stanback]

That's right. Well, they're. They're listening to us. Obvious.

[Chris Beam]

All love to all the shows. It's just in good fun.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I want to hear about news.

[Patrick Walker]

We're number one.

[Isaiah Stanback]

That is.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I want to hear about news enough. And that's why we're number one, is because we get into the topics of conversation and have fun while doing it.

[Patrick Walker]

We do.

[Kyle Yeomans]

The Cowboys did place a guy named Perry on Winfrey.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Patrick Walker]

He went to injured reserve with the back issue that. That cropped up on him two weeks ago in practice. I want to say he's got a parent for the Philadelphia Eagles. I know it's. That's a very. That one's close to you.

[Chris Beam]

It's a pen throw.

[Isaiah Stanback]

The celebration video was so great. And now we.

[Patrick Walker]

Yeah. Football going football. You know, football going football. You love Perry on Winfrey Story. You love the. The emotional roller coaster that. That he went on. And we're not doing that.

[Kyle Yeomans]

You gotta.

[Patrick Walker]

We're not doing that. But unfortunately, he's gonna be down for a minimum of four games. If he is. If he recovers and he. He makes progress, then there is a possibility we will see him after four games, but not before then. So we'll see how that works. Because it looks like based upon what owner and general manager Jerry Jones told 105.3the fan this morning, he, quote, unquote, suspects that Mozzie Smith will be inactive again against the New York Giants. So hand up.

[Isaiah Stanback]

If Wininfrey went on IR, was there any other moves that were made to replace his spot on the roster at the moment?

[Patrick Walker]

No.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Oh, so there's an open roster spot.

[Patrick Walker]

There is. There's also Ryan Flournoy on your practice squad.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Well, and Mozzie Smith was inactive.

[Patrick Walker]

Yeah.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I mean, he already has a. He already has a roster spot, but.

[Isaiah Stanback]

He just said that he. Mr. Jones this morning said that he plans on him.

[Patrick Walker]

He said he suspects. He suspects that Mozzie Smith will be inactive again.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah, I thought he kind of misunderstood the question.

[Patrick Walker]

May have.

[Kyle Yeomans]

The way that I interpreted that is he didn't have any because he. He thought the Jaden Blue ask was an injury ask. And I think he related that to Mozzie, too. So unless Mozzie's dealing with an injury.

[Chris Beam]

That we don't know about. Right.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Then there's a conversation to be had. The way I don't know if I came out.

[Patrick Walker]

We came out clean.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah.

[Patrick Walker]

I don't. But the part that kind of stuck out when he said we came out pretty clean. So I don't suspect.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Expected anything.

[Patrick Walker]

Yeah. So if you go with that part alone, I suspect anything to be different.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I.

[Isaiah Stanback]

We're not going to dive into his.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Comments like, you're not wrong. I just don't know if I would. I would put a ton of stock because I think he misunderstood.

[Patrick Walker]

I think you could combine that with what Shoddy was saying as far as the Mozzie question and saying that he needs to see consistency until he sees the consistency. Which means you see it. You don't simply have a great day of practice on Wednesday and then you turn down on Thursday and then try to turn back.

[Isaiah Stanback]

He said that about blue as well, Right?

[Patrick Walker]

Blue as well. So these are the two guys that. That Jerry was asked about as well.

[Isaiah Stanback]

But there's a roster spot open.

[Chris Beam]

If we're talking consistency. If we're talking consistency, one of the only teams that Mozzie really has a lot of success against is the New York Giants.

[Kyle Yeomans]

That is true.

[Chris Beam]

I mean, if. If we're talking facts, we're talking consistency.

[Patrick Walker]

We talk facts.

[Chris Beam]

This is a team that you want to get, right?

[Patrick Walker]

Yes. Science against.

[Chris Beam]

If you are Mozzie Smith, if he is activated, and if he's not, then ma. Perhaps a move. Perhaps. But here's going to Find a guy.

[Patrick Walker]

Who knows what also makes me.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Because with your open roster spot, we're.

[Patrick Walker]

Going to get to you in a second.

[Chris Beam]

They're going to put out some feelers.

[Patrick Walker]

Because I see what Kyle.

[Isaiah Stanback]

I'm just saying. I mean.

[Patrick Walker]

So to your point, Kyle, you're right. He may have misunderstood the question, but also contextually add the fact that he had a lot of praise for Thoia.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Yeah, he did. Yeah. He actually. I went back and watched. I was critical of him early on.

[Patrick Walker]

Yeah.

[Isaiah Stanback]

And I went back and watched and he actually. He got better. Yeah, he got better. He started. It was almost like he was influenced by the intensity of the guys around him. Okay. I feel like originally he came off, it was kind of just like kind of a. A stick in the mud, kind of just like a big log sitting there.

[Chris Beam]

A lumbering figure.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Exactly. Right. But then when you start seeing Solomon Thomas, we start seeing osa, we start seeing Marshawn. Those guys were firing off the ball. Clark, Kenny Clark, firing off the ball. It was almost like either get with it or get ghost. Right.

[Patrick Walker]

And exactly.

[Isaiah Stanback]

So, like, that's when environment matters. That's when. That's when the culture that you're in that you're entrenched in matters. Right. If everybody else hard, who am I not to go hard? If everybody else is getting off the ball. Right. And being intense and violent, who am I not to. I don't want to stick out like a sore thumb on film. That's why this culture thing, when I talk about culture, like, that's one element of it. If everybody is doing the right thing, I better do it too. Otherwise I'm going to be the guy who sticks out and gets red dotted. Right. So it's important to. To have those kind of guys at every position that are doing and, and. And replicating the things that you're looking for as a coach because it impacts the guys around you. So when you see moves, roster moves that are made, understand why certain things happen. Right. And that's rosters across the board. But obviously people care about here at the Cowboys. When you see things that people who don't necessarily represent what it is that you're trying to enact, maybe they come up inactive, maybe they come up not on the roster because they're not embodying what you need from your team. But then.

[Patrick Walker]

Then the question becomes. Because I see where you're angling with the. The roster spot.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Yeah.

[Patrick Walker]

If you're hearing Jerry Jones, the owner and general manager, speak so highly of your rookie draft pick in Jay doia behind, obviously, Kenny Clark, who had a fantastic game. The question I will pose to you, since you are angry toward free agency, what is. What's the likelihood of you hearing Jerry say something like that about his rookie draft pick and then simultaneously going out and getting a free agent, A veteran? Different skill sets.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Completely different skill set. The person. I don't want to keep saying the name or I'll just say the initial cw. I don't want everybody to be throwing it out there because I, I would love for the Cowboys to be able to go snatch that person up.

[Kyle Yeomans]

And I know you want him to crack, correct?

[Patrick Walker]

Exactly.

[Isaiah Stanback]

I want him to. Well, yeah, exactly. Well, I don't want other teams to listen into our podcaster because I know it happens and go out there and steal our guys that we're looking at. But if they were to go sign this individual who is one of the top D linemen in football and especially in free agency, he's an impact player. He's a guy that automatically gives you the versatility up front. And people are going to say, well, you have Solomon Thomas, you have, you know, Kenny Clark, you have osa. Where does he fit in at? He. He fits in. There's a thing called a rotation. When I was with the, when I was with the Giants and we won the super bowl, it was because one of the major reasons was because of the rotation at the defensive line position. Your, your old defensive coordinator out in Washington has a rotation of guys on that defensive front and they're all nasty guys come off the bench. They come into the rotation and these guys have impacts. So you don't have to have all the guys out there at every single down, but it allows for you to have a three down front, it allows for you to have a four down front, it allows for you to have a five down front no matter what you want to do. Goal line set, you can go out there and goal line now you can stop some things, right? So there. You can never have enough impact D lineman. It's like. It's just. You just can't. Right? And if you know that your position, group of depth right now currently on defense is at the linebacker level, how does it hurt you having more guys up front that can do their job? If you can have more guys that are require offensive linemen to now scheme up and say, hey, I need two guys on this guy. It frees up your linebacker. And linebacker is whose favorite position.

[Patrick Walker]

Maddie, thank you very much. I don't think there's a question about the individual. You're speaking of as far as on field play.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Not at all. We know. We know. We know.

[Josh Rodriguez]

What the.

[Isaiah Stanback]

We know why he's not on the roster right now.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Was he hurt for a little bit?

[Isaiah Stanback]

That was a. That was a speculation. Yeah, he had one. Supposedly. The story is he had one surgery and the team said he. They needed him to have a second surgery and he said no, and then they released him. Yeah, that was the justification for the release. I don't believe that that locker room.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Right.

[Isaiah Stanback]

I don't believe that the injury was the reason for the release, but I think that was a legal way to release somebody. So I believe he's out there. Nobody knows. I know I definitely don't know what his status of his health is, but if he is healthy, snatch him up.

[Chris Beam]

Well, you've. You've touched on CW for now for a while. Is there anybody else out there that kind of gets that sort of free agent?

[Isaiah Stanback]

Not. That's a free agent.

[Kyle Yeomans]

No, that's free.

[Isaiah Stanback]

There aren't players like that that have that much impact that are just sitting at the crib.

[Patrick Walker]

I'm curious.

[Isaiah Stanback]

They just. They're just not. No, those are guys that. I mean, look at his previous contract. That lets you know exactly how impactful he is. Yeah, right.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Oh, he makes it.

[Chris Beam]

I mean, you got. All right, you got him out there. Desean Williams, apparently. Lynn Vol. Joseph. Quentin Jefferson.

[Kyle Yeomans]

No, no, he's really.

[Chris Beam]

Yeah, nothing's really.

[Isaiah Stanback]

No, he. He's a guy that, if you add him to your D line, the offensive lines are like crap.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Nothing quite tickles the fancy with those names.

[Chris Beam]

Yeah, not quite. Now, don't be the finger on it. Really?

[Patrick Walker]

You said what? Don't be the butt of the joke.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Oh, you're right.

[Kyle Yeomans]

It's probably a good idea. Any other news and notes there, Pat?

[Patrick Walker]

Not at the moment.

[Josh Rodriguez]

No.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Jerry and Steven talked earlier. We kind of mentioned a little bit about Jerry Jones and his Words today on 105 3, the fan flagship of the Dallas Cowboys.

[Chris Beam]

Available Dallas Cowboys dot com.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah, it's all on there right now. There wasn't anything crazy of substance. They were talking about the CPA and the contract negotiations and whether or not there's a violation of the cpa. There's no violation whatsoever.

[Patrick Walker]

And they talked about, which basically Jerry validated the. The report that the Philadelphia Eagles put in an offer for. For Micah. And. And we're. We're moving past the Micah thing on here. But Jerry did speak about this morning, so really quickly. Jerry said that there was no counteroffer from The Cowboys to the Eagles because that was a hard no m no matter how you looked at it.

[Kyle Yeomans]

And what was the report from Jay Glazer in terms of the numbers?

[Isaiah Stanback]

Three first, a third, a fifth and more.

[Patrick Walker]

No.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah.

[Chris Beam]

No.

[Isaiah Stanback]

No. Face him twice.

[Patrick Walker]

Bunny gift.

[Josh Rodriguez]

No. No.

[Patrick Walker]

So no, that wasn't going to happen.

[Chris Beam]

Absolutely not.

[Patrick Walker]

So. And of course Michael made his debut for the Green Bay packers. Got himself a sack, chased down Jared Golf from garbage.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Tremendous impact. He did what he did. Did what you expected to do, what he did. Yeah.

[Kyle Yeomans]

He was fourth in the fourth in the NFL out of 56 edge rushers that were graded this week one in terms of PFF grade.

[Isaiah Stanback]

We all know what he's capable of doing. Yeah, you'll see him in a couple weeks.

[Chris Beam]

Really, Mickey made me feel a lot better about it on mix shots yesterday when he was talking about really it's garbage time.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Like which a lot of it was sack was definitely garbage time but he made an impact.

[Chris Beam]

It is no. No doubt that he is a great player.

[Josh Rodriguez]

He's.

[Chris Beam]

He's a problem for any offense.

[Isaiah Stanback]

He got to be forced to interception.

[Chris Beam]

Absolutely.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Forced double teams. He forced tackles for Law.

[Chris Beam]

But if you want to feel better about it, go.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Don't, don't.

[Chris Beam]

Don't make yourself dismiss it entirely.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Don't, don't act like he's not one of the most dominant you'll see and have to figure out what you want to do with him in three weeks.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah, he's gonna have sex in three weeks.

[Patrick Walker]

I would say I'm extremely interested just to see how this timeline plays out between. For both the packers and. And the Cowboys because I mean there's just no denying you can try to cope all you like, but Micah is still going to be going to be Micah. That being said, it's also true that man Kenny Clark, but great buddy. Oh buddy. And the Cowboys also, although they weren't able to get home more than once on Jalen Hurts, they were one of the league leaders and pressures applied in week one. So there's an opportunity to just turn that whole unit into just there's something.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Dominant man with the. When you get. You already know that once your cornerback room gets healthy that you're going to have one of the most feared secondaries in the league. If you can have one of the most feared D lines in the league, what does that do for your team? We've seen it like, you know what I'm saying? Like, like, like there's a, like there's a way to have a roster and be like, okay, yeah, we're, we're. We're good up there. We're. We're good. And then there's a way to just. You guys remember like the game in, in the, in the arcade where you drop the little coin in and they have the little shelf that keeps pushing it to the end. Like right now you have your coin sitting on the edge and you just. If you place the proper coin in a proper spot. Dude. And you can just push all those coins off the edge and just say, dude, now we're nasty up front. Like, do. Make the move. Do it, do it, do it, do it.

[Chris Beam]

You can do it.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I love how committed you are to this. You really are.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Why not now?

[Chris Beam]

It's his QB vision.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Why not? Why not now you got the cone.

[Patrick Walker]

From the old man.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I mean, the, the one thing that I keep going back to is the, the whole conversation we had in the offseason about culture, locker room and getting the right type of guy.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Absolutely.

[Patrick Walker]

And some guy.

[Isaiah Stanback]

And some guys can be influenced. You know, I don't know that person some. But I'm saying. But we just talked about how, how Jay Toya, how he was influenced. Yeah, his play was influenced by the guys around him.

[Kyle Yeomans]

But that's a different type of we don't know conversation.

[Patrick Walker]

We don't know.

[Chris Beam]

We don't know.

[Isaiah Stanback]

We don't. We don't.

[Chris Beam]

Maybe he needs the right culture around.

[Isaiah Stanback]

We don't know.

[Patrick Walker]

Maybe, maybe, maybe multiple cultures in. At this point, though.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah, that's kind of my thought. It happened in Clemson. It happened early in his career.

[Chris Beam]

Happens the race culture.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah, we'll see.

[Patrick Walker]

I hear what you say.

[Kyle Yeomans]

We'll see.

[Patrick Walker]

But, but, but.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Yeah, so, yeah, I.

[Kyle Yeomans]

But I like the commitment. I don't see it's possibly happening. I don't see it happening. All right, when we come back, my fancy Kyle talking cowboys. We're going to take your phone calls. 888-855-2297. I know we've got a good one lined up to ready and start this second.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Hot and ready.

[Patrick Walker]

Oh.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Second segment right after the break with more talking cowboys.

[Isaiah Stanback]

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[Josh Rodriguez]

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[Isaiah Stanback]

Insurance.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Financial services.

[Isaiah Stanback]

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[Josh Rodriguez]

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[Isaiah Stanback]

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[Isaiah Stanback]

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[Kyle Yeomans]

You get the job done right.

[Isaiah Stanback]

We're with you. That's our promise to you. Because no matter the project or the challenge you're facing, we're with you.

[Josh Rodriguez]

We're united.

[Kyle Yeomans]

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[Isaiah Stanback]

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[Patrick Walker]

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[Isaiah Stanback]

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[Chris Beam]

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[Kyle Yeomans]

Back to Talkin Cowboys Back here on Talking Cowboys. This segment is brought to you by Invisalign. The official smile of the Dallas Cowboys. Patrick Nosie Walker. Josh Rodriguez. Isaiah, Stand back. Chris Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yeomans. What a Monday Night Football game we had last night, too. Vikings coming back to win and defeat the Chicago Bears.

[Chris Beam]

Those darn Bears, man.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Are you pointing that?

[Patrick Walker]

You pointed at me and said Josh Rodriguez.

[Josh Rodriguez]

I didn't.

[Kyle Yeomans]

No, I said Josh Rodriguez and then I said Isaiah.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Am I delayed? Yeah, you're delayed.

[Patrick Walker]

You glitched like you glitched like the Bears.

[Kyle Yeomans]

What are you talking about?

[Patrick Walker]

You glitched like the Bears did last night. Like the Ravens did, man. Sunday night Bears.

[Chris Beam]

We were gone for a while. I don't think we ever got Isaiah Stan back.

[Isaiah Stanback]

It's okay.

[Kyle Yeomans]

We'll get it back. We'll get it back soon.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Bears.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Bears look like they're in mid season form through one week. And remember, the Cowboys play the Sue.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Let's go.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Is that Jot or whatever?

[Kyle Yeomans]

Is that Tommy?

[Chris Beam]

That's Tommy Yaris.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Oh, okay.

[Patrick Walker]

Now play Chicago. I'll play the other drop beam to talk about the Bears. Oh, brother. These guys.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Oh, man, that was not good. Not good for the.

[Chris Beam]

Not a good showing.

[Kyle Yeomans]

And they play Detroit in week two and then they turn around. Oh, brother, this guy stinks. Sorry, Ben Johnson. Sorry. Caleb Williams, Romeo Dunes A. Colston Loveland.

[Isaiah Stanback]

They are going to get that corrected.

[Kyle Yeomans]

We'll see.

[Isaiah Stanback]

They're going to get it correct.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Maybe kick the ball out of bounds.

[Patrick Walker]

You have confidence in.

[Isaiah Stanback]

I have confidence. I have confidence in Ben Johnson. What they. Their first half was solid.

[Patrick Walker]

Yeah, confidence in him.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Their first half was solid. And then. And then I feel as if certain aspects, certain players stopped focusing.

[Chris Beam]

Then Minnesota decided to eat.

[Isaiah Stanback]

No, for sure. Minnesota's got Minnesota, their defensive coordinator. I mean, look, I mean, he's freaking amazing. But Ben Johnson, there's no way he allows.

[Patrick Walker]

No way.

[Isaiah Stanback]

There's no way. I don't have faith that they're going to be like an amazing team. But I don't think that you're going to see that performance again.

[Chris Beam]

Yeah, I don't.

[Isaiah Stanback]

I don't. That. No.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Well, they can figure it out on week four. That's where they can figure it out. We'll see. All right, you know what day it is? You know what time it is.

[Isaiah Stanback]

It's time for a talking Tuesday.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Call me now.

[Kyle Yeomans]

We've got some callers on the line. Our first caller, Mike in New York. We're going to try and hit eight calls today. What's on your mind?

[Isaiah Stanback]

Gotta be in and out.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Going on. Guys, as always, great to talk to you. I was impressed by the Dallas Cowboys running game. Obviously, I think Williams and other guys did good. I'd like to. I want to have blue back. And then my biggest concern is I'll be there in a couple of weeks to see the Cowboys play the jets in New York. Stevie Lamb. Come on, buddy. You need to make some catches. I understand. It happens, but come on, dude. How many drops did you have? Like four?

[Chris Beam]

Come on.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Four.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Appreciate you. Mike in New York always brings the energy. He's one of my favorite callers because of it. And he quick got it in, got it out. Talking about the run game first, what did you think about the run game? We've kind of hit it for the most part, but the more I look back at it, I think there were good things. I also think there were some not so good things, especially in that second half.

[Patrick Walker]

I think that when you. It. Was it perfect? Absolutely not. No. Was it wildly upgraded over last season? Absolutely it was. Was it, though, six rushing touchdowns. You got two rushing touchdowns in the first, so.

[Chris Beam]

I know.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I'm not talking about the rushing touchdowns. I'm talking about the effectiveness of the run game. Rico. I mean, we sat. Danced for Rico Dowdle.

[Patrick Walker]

Three or four. I think it was effective enough to get you the win in Philadelphia. I don't know that I think that you want more like shot. Even said he said he wishes that they had more. More swings at the plate when it came to Javante Williams. I agree with that statement. I do agree with that. I would have liked to see, you know, a few more handles, 15 carries, but he. He made the most. Well, a handful put you at 20, right?

[Chris Beam]

Sure.

[Patrick Walker]

So grab a handful. Yeah, grab a handful. Pause.

[Kyle Yeomans]

So Miles Sanders.

[Patrick Walker]

Yeah, that's. That's where. That's where I would like to see a change because when we did the Mach 53, I had Jaden Blue as my RB2 behind Javante Williams, unfortunately, with Miles Sanders, what you got. And I saw Miles Sanders do some good things. He had a couple of solid runs. He had some good pass pro. But that fumble was. Was back breaking right. And thankfully Dak Prescott turned into a linebacker and helped save the game at that point at least kept the Cowboys in position where they could come back and try to win the game. But I would like to see Jaden Blue and Javante Williams. I want to see that combo against the New York Giants. But when you talk about what Javante did and was able to do average more than 4 yards per carry for the majority of the game, you saw the push that the offensive line was able to get. I know Isaiah loves that because that. That's his baby's offensive line and getting that push. They were moving some bodies down there. Yeah, they were moving some bodies.

[Isaiah Stanback]

I know, I know. We got a go ahead.

[Chris Beam]

Just really quickly. I like what I saw from Javante Williams. I think that last year, over this year, to kind of play devil's advocate to what Patrick is saying, I think you did sort of see a lot of the same. The results are a lot of the same for what the Cowboys run game gave you last year. Yeah, I think Javante Williams has more juice than that, but I think you're sort of running into a redundancy with Miles Sanders where it's like you're not getting enough of juice there. Change of pace by virtue of making Jaden Blue inactive. That's something that I wish would change. But then again, Brian Shawn never talked about it. As far as consistency goes, Jaden Blue needs to step up in certain ways to earn his active spot on the. On game day. So it's a good point. I just don't know that there was enough. Change of pace.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Yeah, get in real quick because I know we have to get eight callers somehow, but less about the player, more about the scheme. Love the scheme. Love the scheme.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Scheme was good.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Love the scheme. You got a lot of.

[Kyle Yeomans]

That's encouraging.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Yeah, a lot of Wham. Blocks. You got a lot of backside cutoffs. This style of rushing attack is going to have some big plays. If your receivers block on the next level, that's really what it's going to. What it's going to come down to. In terms of the front seven though, with this type of running scheme, if, if that was the week one performance, I'm excited for what's to come because the offensive line is only. Only going to get better. The timing is only going. Going to get better. Their. Their landmarks for blocking is only going to get better. Like everything's going to improve. Like that should be the worst that you've seen it right now. Now obviously you'll see different schemes, different defensive fronts, different. All kinds of stuff.

[Patrick Walker]

Right.

[Isaiah Stanback]

That will change as the season progresses. But if that is the scheme that they're going with, I like it. I like it a lot.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Cynthia from Laredo.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Hey.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Is on the line. Cynthia, what's going on?

[Josh Rodriguez]

Good morning, guys.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Good morning.

[Chris Beam]

Good morning.

[Josh Rodriguez]

I just have a quickie here. I just wanted to be on your Facebook first, talking Cowboys. I tell you what, I'm very excited. I'll be a Cowboy fan. Win or lose, I'm there all the way. And I just have to give you all a big shout out to my quatro amigos, okay? I like it. Especially my. My mano over there. Josh. Okay. I just wanted to wish you. I just wanted to wish you all a fantastic year. I missed you all off season, but I just wanted y' all to have a very blessed year. Okay?

[Kyle Yeomans]

Thank you, Cynthia. You are the best. The best. And we're still waiting on a trip down to South Texas for some of those tamales as well. We're gonna make it happen soon. Very nice. Thank you, Cynthia.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Love you, my cuatron Migos. Bye. Bye.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yes, ma'.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Am.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yes, ma'.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Am.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Love you as well. All right, let's go to one of our. You talk about consistency. Consistency is key. This guy's consistent. Nebby in Silver Spring. What's up, Nebby? Noseball.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Hi, guys. Thank you so much for taking my call. Listen, even though I'm not happy, to say the least, that we traded Micah Parsons, I still have faith in this football team. And, guys, there are no moral victories in the National Football League, of course. But after seeing how we played against the Philadelphia Eagles, I believe we can be a playoff team. And, of course, once you're in the playoffs, anything can happen. And I'm not saying I'm taking the New York Giants lightly, because I'm certainly not. But after seeing how they played against the Commanders, I think it's important for us to get control of this game early and put the Giants away as early as possible. Although, before I go, to be honest, that's going to be hard to do considering how the New York Giant defense is pretty good and will probably keep. And will probably keep them. Keep them in the game. Take care. Thanks for being patient with me. Have a great week. And of course, as always, go Cowboys. Love you guys. Bye.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Nebby knows ball. And talking about that defensive line for the Giants, that's the thing. That's the thing I keep pushing back on is you can't count this as a win immediately. No matter how well Dallas played in Week 1. The Giants are done being the doormat. And at some point, they will be done. Actually be done being the doormat of the division.

[Chris Beam]

You can't take any win for granted or you can't take any game for.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Granted, especially when they have that defensive line.

[Chris Beam]

That defensive line. I love that defensive line. And I don't necessarily think they have the best coaching staff in, in New York, but if those guys decide to turn it on against you, I mean, yeah, I. I think there's plenty there.

[Isaiah Stanback]

But don't play with your food, for.

[Chris Beam]

All intents and purposes. Exactly, exactly. Don't play with your food. Take care of business.

[Patrick Walker]

Don't play with your food. Like Nebby said, get out to a fast start. It's your home opener. Choke them out, right? Just boa constrictor. Choke them out, right? You start, you start, start, and then you constrict, constrict, constrict. And by the time you get to hopefully the third quarter, they can't breathe and it's game over.

[Isaiah Stanback]

All day long. You'll put up a dog.

[Patrick Walker]

Ain'T messing with.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Let's go to the next call.

[Kyle Yeomans]

All right, next caller.

[Isaiah Stanback]

How about.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Let's go all the way up to Minnesota. Lester in Minnesota is on the line. What's going on, Lester?

[Josh Rodriguez]

Hey, guys. How you doing this morning?

[Kyle Yeomans]

What's going on, man?

[Josh Rodriguez]

Hey, I'm doing good. I call in on storyline a lot, and my. My tag is, until we get an offensive and good defensive line at the same time, this is what we got. So that being said, I really like the offensive line with how they played. I saw a lot of trap blocks and other sort of blocking schemes that I didn't see very much up until this year. So I really love it. They did a fabulous job, man. And I do think we do need to improve our defensive tackle spot a little bit better. I'm sure they're working on that. And I think we played a good game, man. I know there's no moral victory. I don't believe that either because I played football as well, but in high school. But hey, I'm liking what I'm saying. And one more thing, man, we need to get Pickens the ball a little bit more. I understand. You know, CD Is the man, and I'm not saying he's not, but hey, man, we gotta get. I don't want another Cook situation. I want to see Pickens. He, he, he is, he, he. He's really good.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah.

[Patrick Walker]

Okay.

[Josh Rodriguez]

That's all I got, boys.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Thanks, Lester. Appreciate the call. It sounds like he's listening to Isaiah. Stand back. Like he says he likes the blocking scheme on the offensive line. You need to add one more piece to your defensive tackle room. And you need to get George Pickens the ball more. Those are three of Isaiah's calling cards this week.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Very much so. I totally agree with that, young man. It was a good call.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Couldn't have said it better myself. Very well done.

[Patrick Walker]

I think the Pickens targets will come organically. And I also think that's less of a conversation, although it's a rightful point. It's less of a conversation if CD comes up with. With those passes, as he normally would, so.

[Isaiah Stanback]

But yeah, I think Pickens will have.

[Josh Rodriguez]

There will.

[Patrick Walker]

Yeah, there will. Next week there will be games where Pickens is out targeting CD Will be and vice versa.

[Chris Beam]

Let's not forget the Eagles made it a point to take away George Pick, which.

[Patrick Walker]

Which schematically is. What is that one reason the Cowboys traded for him in the first place? To be able to drag that.

[Isaiah Stanback]

There's going to be days where these guys switch roles.

[Chris Beam]

Yep.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Right. One person will be the.

[Chris Beam]

And that's the beauty of having them both.

[Patrick Walker]

Yeah.

[Isaiah Stanback]

And this. This. We'll talk about the Giants later. But, yeah, they will both have.

[Patrick Walker]

Good call.

[Chris Beam]

And had we won the game, had CD caught those. Those balls that he did drop it, it would be a different story. You wouldn't be asking about the. The. The CD total count of Pickens contract contribution.

[Patrick Walker]

Yeah. Trying to figure out if that was actually Lester or if that was Isaiah calling calling as somehow from across the table. Was it a recorded call, Lester?

[Chris Beam]

I didn't see his phone.

[Isaiah Stanback]

You were the best.

[Chris Beam]

Who knows?

[Josh Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Kyle Yeomans]

All right, let's try and fit one more caller in before the break.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Choke it out, Kyle.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Dan in Florida. Dan. Oh, what's going on, man?

[Isaiah Stanback]

Dan.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Oh, hey, guys. How are you, man?

[Kyle Yeomans]

Good to hear from you.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Yeah.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Been a minute. Yeah.

[Kyle Yeomans]

What's on your mind?

[Josh Rodriguez]

You know, I used to have. I used to have my own version of talking Cowboys Weekly with Dave Campo, but now he's moved, so I'm kind of lost again, you know?

[Isaiah Stanback]

You still got a home here.

[Patrick Walker]

You are now.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Yeah, I know. I know. Hey, you know, I'm glad Isaiah was. You know, I. I watched the line. I don't. I really do. I. I just enjoy watching line play. I tell you, I was impressed with Terrence Steele. Nobody's really saying much about him right now. I mean, I know it's one game, but he looked like a different ballplayer than he. Than Last year, again, one game, small sample, but it's one game that he can build on. And the other thing, I think defensively, the Clark pickup, obviously, very huge. I like the kid from ucla and I always pronounce his name. Yeah, right. I like him a lot. I think. I think Mozzie's days are gone. They've come and gone. My personal opinion, he's had three years. I don't see any real growth or improvement. That's just me. What do I know? But I'd give it to that guy. But the thing, I think the thing you take away from that game the other night is Hertz killed everybody with his legs. If. If Overshawn is on the field, that's not going to happen.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Thank you.

[Josh Rodriguez]

And so I'm. I'm thinking when he gets back, and I know they're saying it's around Thanksgiving. I've also heard maybe earlier, I don't know, but I think, you know, him on the field is going to be huge for that defense because defensively, Eberflis had them playing pretty well. And I think offensively Schonheimer did a great job. I thought his game plan was great. I thought he did a great job. I thought Dak was impeccable. And again, I thought the line was really outstanding. And granted, Carter was gone, but you know what? If Carter was in there, we're going to double him. So you don't know if he was going to be a game wrecker or not. If you've got Bibi and Booker on him. I don't know. I may call that a draw, personally, but just wanted to see what you guys have to say about that. Again, I think. I think there's a lot of positives that come out of that game and, you know, it kind of really upsets me because I sit back and you look at the difference in this team in game one versus the difference the last couple years with McCarthy in game. Game one, and there was a lot more. There was a hell of a lot more discipline in terms of penalties. Okay. So I think there's a lot to build on. Just wanted to say, hey, guys, how you doing? And that's what I got, man.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Dano, you're the man. Appreciate the call, as always. Patrick, I'll defer to you on there because I know you. You kind of agree with some of the points there.

[Patrick Walker]

I do. Especially I love. Thank you, Dano, for highlighting Terence Steele. I think Terence Steele had a pretty strong game in week one. You look at. We were talking about how Tyler Booker fared well. You know, Jalen Carter wasn't on the field, but you play who's lined up against you and Daniel makes a good point. Jalen Carter is there, likely gets doubled up with combo blocks with BB and Booker. So no point in discussing who wasn't there. But when you look at what Tyler Booker was able to do, I think that helped Terence Steele be able to cook on the right side. Because Terence Steele only allowed three pressures, he was singled up one on one coverage 73 1/2% of the time. This is via next gen stats. And his time to pressure allowed 3.0 average was the second best only to Tyler Guyton who had the best on the team. So Terrence Steele, he did well in the run game, which is his kind of claim to fame, right? He did very strongly in the past game. So it is something to build on. Yes, it's a small data set. It's just one game. But again you build on it and there you go from there. So yeah, a lot, a lot of people overlooking Terence Steel right now and.

[Chris Beam]

Of Terence Steele just looking at PFF currently, his run blocking grade for week one was 78.

[Patrick Walker]

Is that good? Seems good.

[Chris Beam]

It seems pretty good. It's sixth overall in tackles.

[Patrick Walker]

Yeah, seems good.

[Kyle Yeomans]

There was one element there that I disagreed with and he was talking about how this team looks more disciplined and looks better in Week 1 than the Mike McCarthy led teams did in Week 1. They hadn't lost since 2022 in Week 1 and they defeated the Browns last year 3317 in a dominant game. And honestly, when he brought up demarvi and Overshone, that was the first game that came to mind for me of trying to limit a mobile quarterback demo was insane in that case.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Against Deshaun Watson at that point in time. And he helped control that same sort of deal can happen with Jalen Hurts in the future.

[Patrick Walker]

And did you Mario on Overshone speed. Yeah, that's needed here. On a couple of those Jalen hurts.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Escape and then you go one more. Sorry to continue one more year further. 2022 or no. 2340 to nothing against the Giants, it's Mike McCarthy's teams were for the most part ready for Week 1. I know it was. It was kind of back and forth between 21 or 2020 and then 2022. But the last two years they were fine.

[Chris Beam]

Let's not talk about week two.

[Kyle Yeomans]

But yeah, yeah, week two's different. Week two is a different conversation.

[Chris Beam]

But in that same breath. If you don't have demarvan overshone. What are you doing not giving merrily snaps? What are we doing? Man, he's the most athletic linebacker you have.

[Patrick Walker]

I think that's just the.

[Chris Beam]

I get it. I get it.

[Patrick Walker]

I know you know there's familiarity between Sanborn and Eva flu and then you trade it for Murray. So of course those two guys are going to get the first crack. But I agree, I agree.

[Chris Beam]

When you have a mobile quarterback like that. I think the antidote at this point without Demarvian overshone is Maris Lia Fowl get him on the field.

[Isaiah Stanback]

He controlled the controllables, the opportunities that he had. He had really good reps. That's good to know.

[Patrick Walker]

So I do agree.

[Kyle Yeomans]

After the break, we're going to hear from John in Alaska. We've got six callers down. We need two more. Get on the phone. Eight, eight, eight more talking cowboys on a talking Tuesday after this.

[Isaiah Stanback]

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[Josh Rodriguez]

Financial services. Insurance. Financial services.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Now when I say nationwide, you say is both. Nationwide. Nationwide for your insurance and financial needs.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Nationwide is on your side.

[Isaiah Stanback]

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[Kyle Yeomans]

This is Julian Edelman from Games with Names.

[Patrick Walker]

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[Kyle Yeomans]

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[Patrick Walker]

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[Kyle Yeomans]

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[Patrick Walker]

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[Kyle Yeomans]

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[Isaiah Stanback]

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[Josh Rodriguez]

Warning. Each item must be placed in the bagging area.

[Isaiah Stanback]

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[Josh Rodriguez]

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[Isaiah Stanback]

Welcome back into Dear Doctor the show where I answer life's questions with an ice cold can of Dr. Pepper. Sheila, let's hear from our next caller. Would you. Dear Dr. My friend supported me during a tough time, but what's the right.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Gift that says thanks for being a shoulder to cry on?

[Isaiah Stanback]

Okay, this one's easy. I say give her a delicious Dr. Pepper. Nothing says thanks girl better than a one of a kind soda. Yes, any Dr. Pepper flavor will do. Now, just a reminder that I don't need to be a real doctor to know that Dr. Pepper is the one you deserve.

[Kyle Yeomans]

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[Isaiah Stanback]

That means you gotta be in and.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Out, John, in Alaska, not a sponsor.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Good morning.

[Kyle Yeomans]

What's up, man?

[Josh Rodriguez]

Not much. How you doing, guys?

[Kyle Yeomans]

Doing great. And you were, you were very early in the morning out there, right?

[Josh Rodriguez]

Yeah. 6:41.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Good for you.

[Isaiah Stanback]

It's lunchtime.

[Josh Rodriguez]

All right, so I'll make it quick. First, I didn't get to ask you last year who you thought your Dallas Cowboys rookie of the year might be. For me, it was Cooper Beebe. And I'd be curious to hear who you think maybe your Cowboys rookie of the year this year might be for me. I'm picking Ezraku. Secondly, I was. I'm okay with the Parsons trade, but a big if they can get value for those first round picks. So.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Yeah.

[Josh Rodriguez]

So wait and see for me. And finally, I'm picking the Cowboys to beat the giants 27:19 this weekend.

[Kyle Yeomans]

That a boy. 27:19 would be awesome. John, I think thank you again for the call. Thank you for getting up early out there in Alaska and listening from out there. You are the best.

[Isaiah Stanback]

All right.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Rookie of the year, who do you think?

[Patrick Walker]

Tyler Booker.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Yeah.

[Kyle Yeomans]

That's kind of where I'm at. He's going to start every game as long as he stays healthy.

[Chris Beam]

Knock on wood.

[Kyle Yeomans]

He's. He's gonna start every game and he's gonna get better as he goes along.

[Patrick Walker]

I mean, he's going to be a mauler.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I think he's just going to be a dog.

[Chris Beam]

For the sake of redundancy, let me say Donovan as Raku.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Okay.

[Chris Beam]

Just from what he's shown in camp, I know he didn't have an excellent week one, but that's a tall task going up against the Philadelphia Eagles. I think he balls out this game. I really do. Especially against the Giants. O line.

[Isaiah Stanback]

I have a one and a two. Is that okay?

[Kyle Yeomans]

What's the one? What's the one?

[Isaiah Stanback]

My one is Tyler Booker.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Okay.

[Isaiah Stanback]

My two is off the top rope. I'm coming with Shemar James.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Ooh. Who was inactive.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Who was inactive in week one. But I think by the end of the season, if certain moves are made, I think you will see more sets with four linebackers. And I think that he finds a way into that rotation and he is a instinctual player. I'm not sure why he was inactive. He's a young player. But I believe that by the end of the season he will be a key. A key element to that defense.

[Chris Beam]

I think as more players earn more trust with Eberfluss, you will see players like that step up.

[Isaiah Stanback]

I could foresee. I could foresee Kenneth Murray, Maris, Leopale, Shamar, James, very fast, second level. I love that.

[Patrick Walker]

I just don't see Shamar overtaking Damone. I just. I don't see it.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Yeah, it's different sets. There's different sets. Matchups, Matchups matter. I love. You know, I love me, Damon. I love the moon. That's my as my little bro. But certain sets are for certain individuals and skill sets and certain matchups. You can mix and mingle that. But again, if you're Running, mixing up a 4, 3, 3, 4. Depending on your opponent, the abilities of your linebackers matter.

[Patrick Walker]

Well, if we're doing two, then give me some Jaden Blue in there. Once he gets, once he gets active.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Once he gets on the field, I like it. Good call, John. Very nicely done. All right, this next one, I'm going to say this, and I don't want to get fired because Chris Beam literally says don't ask me in the, in the text for it. It' Hoodie Kush from the basement. Boys. I don't know what any of that means, but. What's up?

[Josh Rodriguez]

What's going on, gentlemen?

[Kyle Yeomans]

Is this a storyline thing I've never heard?

[Chris Beam]

I think he's in the. I think he's in the chat mostly.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Most of the time.

[Patrick Walker]

Honey Kush. Oh, that's what that song is.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Yeoman. Okay, Kill me, Yeoman.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Thanks. Thanks, man.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Messed up my train of thought.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kyle Yeomans]

What's on your mind?

[Josh Rodriguez]

So the one thing, like I was on Girl Stone boys talk yesterday, the one thing that, that struck a chord with me is the fact that no one's talking about this. And it's something that we been plagued with through the McCarthy regime. Pre snap penalties. I mean, granted, we had one. Was that the 12 men on the field?

[Patrick Walker]

Yep, just the one.

[Josh Rodriguez]

So like, is that not refreshing? Does that not, does that, does that not speak to the discipline of what. The discipline and culture of what this new regime is, is implementing? I mean, because, I mean, I remember before we were plagued by like 14 penalties, pre snap penalties in one game being the playoffs. So I mean, I just, I just wanted to expound on that. And as far as the linebackers was concerned, I'm not too worried. I mean, first game of the season, new regime, everybody's getting their feet under them. So I mean, I'm willing to give them grace. How about you guys?

[Kyle Yeomans]

I like it. Good call. Overall, Hoodie. Appreciate you, man. I think there's, there's a couple elements there. One, the, the pre snap penalties. Yeah, that is refreshing.

[Patrick Walker]

You quite.

[Kyle Yeomans]

It's very refreshing.

[Chris Beam]

I mean, if we're talking about a change in culture from McCarthy to Schottenheimer, one of the biggest indicators that I saw, and this is a graphic that popped up like at the end of the third quarter, was penalties. We had three going into the fourth quarter and ended with four for 42 yards. Last year you averaged 7.5 per game. There you go, right there.

[Patrick Walker]

And then what was one of the main things that a lot of people wanted to see from Tyler Guyton improve, improve upon penalties. He had zero. And then you look at pre snap, obviously like we said, only one and shoddy. Put that on the coaches. 12 men on the field. He said the coaches got to be better with getting that play call in faster.

[Isaiah Stanback]

They will be looking for.

[Patrick Walker]

And then look at. They'll be looking for that and then.

[Chris Beam]

That was awesome.

[Isaiah Stanback]

What are the five fingers?

[Patrick Walker]

Yeah.

[Isaiah Stanback]

No face. Cold blooded.

[Kyle Yeomans]

It was pretty sick though.

[Patrick Walker]

Flip it to the defense.

[Kyle Yeomans]

That was cool.

[Patrick Walker]

That was.

[Chris Beam]

I'm gonna save that gift for a while.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Yeah, do it again.

[Patrick Walker]

And almost defensive side of the ball, Sam Williams was plagued with the same thing, penalties before he went down with injury and the Eagles tried to bait him on that fourth and fourth. He didn't bite. So. Yes, refreshing. Absolutely.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Good.

[Patrick Walker]

Good call, Hoodie. Push.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Great call.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Hoodie sounds like a super villain by the way.

[Patrick Walker]

What does Kush.

[Isaiah Stanback]

His voice. His voice is like. Yeah, he had a super villain.

[Kyle Yeomans]

The laugh.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I was like, what did I get into here? He was like, oh, you're killing me. Yeah, sorry, I didn't know what your. Your name was. All right, Jim in Pasadena, you're our final caller of the day. What up, Jim?

[Josh Rodriguez]

Good morning, man. How are you doing?

[Patrick Walker]

Well, sir.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Hey, I agree with you guys. We need a home run hitter from the backfield. Javante Williams gets you the hard yards and first level routes and pass protection. He's a poor man's Ezekiel Elliott. But we need a home run hitter. So we also need a thumper in the middle of defense. Someone like Bolton from Kansas City. Swan, I'm asking you, with so many premium pitch coming in two years, would you give up a second rounder for a cat that fill the middle or home run hitter from the backfield or even a third rounder?

[Patrick Walker]

No, that's a. No, that's a negative.

[Isaiah Stanback]

So first of all. Yeah, first of all, thanks for the call.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Thanks, Jim. Appreciate you, man.

[Chris Beam]

Thank you, Jim.

[Isaiah Stanback]

I don't. I would not give up any of that right now. I think that you have guys on your roster that can fulfill those roles. They just need to be given the opportunity again. We're one week into the season. Yeah, we're one week into the season. You were going against the defendant super bowl champions. There were certain elements of your game plan that you had to be sure of. You couldn't be just rolling the dice on some guys. If you had any uncertainty with some of your rookies and guys that you feel as if that can contribute later on in the season, you were going to hold them back A little bit in this particular. In this particular game. But. But against like the Giants, I would imagine that some of these guys probably will come off of the inactive list and we'll have some opportunities. So you have to understand what you were walking into. And you can't play everybody. You got a 53 man roster. Only 48 guys can suit up. There's limited spots available. You sometimes you have to go a little bit safe, especially when you're playing the defending champs.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah, I think. And plus you want to go upgrade your roster from the outside looking in.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Right.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Right now you don't want to spend draft capital. Get somebody.

[Isaiah Stanback]

No, no, no.

[Chris Beam]

For sure.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Don't wager your future right now.

[Chris Beam]

Not at this point. You have to see who you have.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah, you got.

[Chris Beam]

Week one is not an indicator of what the rest of the season is going to be.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Remember, September football is September football.

[Patrick Walker]

For reason. You got to get to October before you actually know and you have enough data to be able to start to say, well, this person is, you know, going on this trajectory. This other person maybe pull them back. But yeah, you need at least four games.

[Kyle Yeomans]

All right. Eight calls down. Good job, everybody. Great calls across the board. Had a lot of good conversation.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Efficient call.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I love talking Tuesday. Good to have it back here on the Cowboys radio network. We'll be back tomorrow. We're going to preview the Dallas defense taking on that New York Giants offense. Russell Wilson was named the starter by the Giants.

[Patrick Walker]

Thank you.

[Kyle Yeomans]

That's supposed to be.

[Josh Rodriguez]

That boy is good.

[Patrick Walker]

Good and terrible. Wasn't bad.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Brian Schottenheimer versus his former quarterback.

[Patrick Walker]

He was not bad, but was he good?

[Isaiah Stanback]

We'll talk.

[Kyle Yeomans]

We'll talk tomorrow. See what that defense has in store for the New York Giants for Patrick Nosi Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah. Stand back. Chris Beam answering all the calls in the back. I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long from talking Cowboys. We'll see you tomorrow morning, 9am this has been a production of Dallas Cowboys.com and the Dallas Cowboys Football club.

[Josh Rodriguez]

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[Josh Rodriguez]

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