Talkin’ Cowboys: Mock It To Me

Summary

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Talkin’ Cowboys: Mock It To Me

Podcast: Talkin’ Cowboys
Hosts: Kyle Yeomans, Patrik “No Ce” Walker, Isaiah Stanback (absent), Josh Rodriguez
Date: April 21, 2026

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Episode Overview

This draft week special episode of Talkin’ Cowboys is a lively and insightful dive into the 2026 NFL Draft from the Dallas Cowboys’ perspective. The crew tackles recent Cowboys news, breaks down front office philosophy on draft prospects (especially medical “red shirts”), and delves deep into both published and live mock draft scenarios. The conversation is equal parts barbershop banter and analytical film-room breakdown, offering Cowboys Nation sharp opinions, practical context, and plenty of good-natured fun.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Brandon Aubrey’s Extension: Cowboys’ All-Pro Kicker Gets Paid

[04:23 – 07:00]

• Patrick Walker breaks the news: Aubrey signs a four-year, $28M extension with $20M guaranteed, making him the highest-paid kicker in NFL history.
• Cowboys had leverage via a second-round RFA tender; no competing offers emerged.
• Aubrey’s 2026 cap hit is under $4M, freeing space for potential free agents or extensions (e.g., George Pickens).
• Kyle Yeomans’ take: “I can stop tweeting every time Brandon Aubrey hits a 65 yard field goal. Pay the man. And instead they did pay the man.” (05:52)
• Walker’s philosophy: “You don’t play to kick. … Kicker is insurance and you have expensive insurance and that should make you feel great. But don’t go looking for an accident so that you can file a claim.” (09:00)

2. Cowboys’ Draft Philosophy on Injured Prospects (“Red Shirt” Players)

[10:29 – 15:21]

• Stephen Jones’ recent comments indicate a strong aversion to drafting players projected to miss significant time (“red shirts”).
  • “What’s his status for minicamp? ... will he be able to play a part of the season or none of the season? All of those are levels…” (Stephen Jones via Walker, 11:13)
• Jamal McCoy (Tennessee CB) flagged for both an ACL recovery and potential degenerative knee, likely off the Dallas draft board unless he falls unexpectedly.
• Kyle Yeomans: Dallas can’t add another medical risk to an already injured CB room.
• Potential 1st-round CB targets: Mansoor Delane (LSU) and Colton Hood (Tennessee).

3. Deep Dive: Patrik “No Ce” Walker’s 7-Round Cowboys Mock Draft

[20:04 – 38:28]

Summary of Picks and Strategic Thinking

• Full mock available at DallasCowboys.com; Walker does only one a year as a personal challenge, aiming for accuracy.

First Round, Pick 12:

• CB Mansoor Delane (LSU)
  • Unanimous All-American, fills urgent need for a clean-bill-of-health playmaker in the secondary.

First Round, Pick 20 [TRADE DOWN]:

• Cowboys trade down with Houston, get additional second rounder.
• Pick 28: LB CJ Allen (Georgia)
  • “Glorified second round pick… I’m not afraid of the double dip. I like two scoops.” (Patrick, 22:03)

Second Round, Pick 59:

• LB Anthony Hill Jr. (Texas)
  • Local product, versatile, brings edge toughness.

Third Round, Pick 92:

• S Zakee Wheatley (Penn State)
  • Immediate special teams contributor, high ceiling.

Fourth Round, Pick 112:

• Edge/OLB Mason Rager (Wisconsin)
  • East-West Shrine Bowl MVP, “draft steal.”

Fifth Round, Pick 152:

• WR Malik Benson (Oregon)
  • “Turbocharged,” unique speed, Junior Adams (Cowboys WR coach) connection.

Fifth Round, Pick 177:

• OT Cage Casey (Boise State)
  • Anchor, balance, high-upside depth.

Sixth Round (Via Trade), Pick 205:

• CB Damani Jackson (Alabama)
  • Press-man specialist, athletic upside, needs takeaways coaching.

Sixth Round, Pick 213:

• TE Dallin Bentley (Utah)
  • “Shorthanded… excellent inline blocker,” not a field-stretcher but high floor (comparable to Ferguson).

Seventh Round, Pick 218:

• WR Jeff Caldwell (Cincinnati)
  • “Freak” traits—4.31 speed, big frame; high-upside deep threat.

Notable Strategic Insights:

• On double dipping at linebacker: “When I was on the clock … I looked at the edge and I said I could hold off just a little bit longer.” (23:36)
• On mid/late-round OL picks: Dallas has mixed results, but Casey’s 2,700+ snaps and no sacks allowed in 2024 draw interest.
• On Day 3 WRs: Preference for traits (speed/size), not just slot types.
• On tight end depth: Bentley is “a more athletic Jason Witten” in terms of reliability.

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4. Live Mock Draft Simulation: Cowboys’ Wipeout Scenario

[42:55 – End]

First Round, Pick 12: Who’s Left on the Board?

• The big five defensive targets (including Delane) are gone—a “wipeout scenario”.
• Top Option: Reuben Bain (Miami, Edge)
  • Walker & Rodriguez both advocate running the card in for Bain.
  • Short-arm “concern” dismissed:
    • Josh Rodriguez: “Look at him, ok? Look at his production on the field in Miami. Come on, man.” (48:02)
    • Walker: “I’m so not as concerned about the whole short arm thing as most others because ... Bane overcomes any kind of shortcoming.” (48:18)
  • Character/off-field: Considered a “one-off”; not viewed as an ongoing concern by panel.

First Round, Pick 20: Next Moves

• Linebacker CJ Allen, LB Jacob Rodriguez, and CB Colton Hood among discussed options.
• Yeomans pushes for Colton Hood due to medical concerns with other prospects.
  • “I think [the Cowboys] would take Colton Hood here. Clean body, clean bill of health.” (51:56)
• Panel laments linebacker scarcity if Allen and Rodriguez are off the board.

Insights on Draft Strategy (Linebacker Dilemma)

• If both edge and CB are selected at 12/20, LB becomes a critical need and a potential miss, as late-third/early-fourth round LBs likely won’t be “green-dot” starters.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On kickers as “insurance” (Patrick Walker, 09:00):
  “You don’t play to kick. … You have expensive insurance and that should make you feel great. But don’t go looking for an accident so that you can file a claim.”

• On mock draft strategy (Walker, 21:14):
  “I always want to see how accurate I can be based on their thought process. All the information that I get … if I can get one or two hits, I’m always curious as to that.”

• On edge prospect Reuben Bain’s short arms (Josh Rodriguez, 48:24):
  “You know who also has short arms? A Tyrannosaurus rex, dude. And that’s who you need back there, buddy.”

• On late-round offensive line success (Yeomans, 30:00):
  “Since 2020, … only one of them [day three OL picks] has played as a starter the majority of a season … Tyler Biadasz back in 2020.”

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Key Timestamps

• 04:23: Brandon Aubrey’s contract and kicker value discussion
• 10:29: Cowboys’ approach to medical redshirt prospects
• 20:04: Walker’s 7-round Cowboys mock draft breakdown
• 42:55: Live mock draft, “wipeout” scenario for Dallas’ board
• 48:24: Dismissing the “short arms” concern on Reuben Bain
• 51:44: CB vs. LB need: making tough decisions at pick 20

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Final Thoughts

This episode delivers a comprehensive, layered preview of Cowboys Draft strategy, blending fun and hijinks with the nitty-gritty of big board priorities, prospect red flags, and the art of reading the room in a “wipeout” scenario. Both mock draft segments illustrate the tension between ideal-world and real-world outcomes, as well as the Cowboys’ evolving philosophy under the Jones/Schneider regime.

Don’t miss this one if you want to understand the real conversations shaping the Cowboys’ 2026 draft decisions.

Transcript

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[Patrick Nosy Walker]

the following

[Kyle Yeomans]

is a production of Dallas Cowboys.com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Talking Cowboys streaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star in Frisco CD la.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

It's on Jake Ferguson. Prescott keeps it and he bangs it in for the touchdown.

[Kyle Yeomans]

And now your hosts, Isaiah Stanbach, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez and Kyle Yeomans. It is a draft week edition of Talking Cowboys presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company live from the Star in Frisco, Texas and the SWBC Studios. Welcome in everybody. We've got Josh Rodriguez, Patrick no see, Paul Bastidis is in the back. I'm Kyle Yeomans. Glad you're with us. It is draft week. It is one of my favorite times of the year. If you aren't locked in on the NFL draft quite yet, you've got a little bit of time, but not a lot of time to try and do so we're going to do some mock drafts today. We're going to talk about some mock drafts that have already been released. We're going to talk about Patrick. No, see Walker's mock draft that's available now on Dallas Cowboys.com and then we're also going to do a live mock draft simulation where we are the Cowboys war room. And we're going to talk about the situations. And just so you guys know, I'm not making it easy on you. I'm Jerry and you have to convince me. So I'm going to play devil's advocate and you got to convince me.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

He's going to make it hard.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Exactly.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Hard, you say.

[Kyle Yeomans]

If that's the case, then you can be assured it'll be a fun show.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Absolutely.

[Kyle Yeomans]

From here on out.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

I feel strange.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Why is that? Because you're on the opposite.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Because, I mean. Yeah, I'm in Isaiah's seat, Isaiah's chair. And you know, they already said we all look like.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Oh, okay.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

See the only way you say we

[Kyle Yeomans]

all look alike with Isaiah.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Isaiah. Right. You say with Isaiah. Stand back. Yeah, yeah. It feels odd. It doesn't feel right.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Now you can see the program monitor and the clocks.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

This is what that feels like. This is the VIP section. Yeah. So because Josh and have our backs

[Kyle Yeomans]

to the wall now, I expect you to be on time all the way through. There's no going over time today because you've got the clock that you can look at.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

I am locked in onto my screen and my. And my host. And my co host.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Sure.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Just don't try to shot clock me.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Building a found.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Try to shot clock me.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Maybe sometimes there's a show after us. All right, let's get into some news and notes before we get into a little mock draft mania. Patrick, what's been going on?

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Including Can I kick it?

[Kyle Yeomans]

You can kick it.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Okay. Brandon Aubrey.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Woo.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Brandon Aubrey has signed his extension with the Dallas Cowboys. The Cowboys started off by placing a second round tender on their all pro multi time all pro first team all pro kicker going into this off season. The deadline came and went, which would have been Friday. As far as other teams making an offer that Brandon Aubrey could sign, that did not occur. As a reminder, a team would have had to be willing to give up a second round pick in this year's draft if they were trying to peel Brandon Aubrey away, no offer was made. The Cowboys ended up then agreeing to Brandon Aubrey. Four years, $28 million. With $20 million guaranteed, he's officially the highest paid kicker in NFL history well deserved for the Plano kid getting paid here in Dallas.

[Josh Rodriguez]

That's no margarine right there.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

That's no. That's all butter, baby.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Extra butter, baby.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

That's all butter, baby. So kudos to Brandon Aubrey. Credit to the Cowboys for getting that done. And now they don't have to go into this, this season worried about a contract situation with a headline player. Obviously they still have George Pickens to worry about, but another one checked off.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I think the big thing with, with Brandon too is nobody really looked around and said we're worried he's not going to be here in the fall. Nobody was really worried that was the case because Dallas had the leverage in the restricted free agent signing that they

[Josh Rodriguez]

made with second round tender to start his career.

[Kyle Yeomans]

And then the second round tender. There's, I think for Brandon Aubrey, it's better for him. I think for the Dallas Cowboys it is better for them. So I'm glad that they got a deal done. I'm glad that. I wish it would have happened a little earlier and we could have just talked about this in February or March. But that's okay. I can stop tweeting every time Brandon Aubrey hits a 65 yard field goal. Pay the man. And instead they did pay the man and he's now the highest paid NFL kicker in history.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

It also works out really quickly from a news and note standpoint, transactional. Transaction wise, it works out where he is only paid $1.5 million this coming season, which means his cap hit this year is under 4 million. So when you're talking about trying to get a deal done with new free agents that might be coming in, keeping in mind, if you extend George Pickens, then you actually lessen the cap hit, which is a great thing. But depending on if the Cowboys, and we'll talk about this during the mock, if they can check off the boxes or if they fail to check off a box or two, they have some more money, more leeway that they can go into free agency right after the draft and maybe get a, get a couple guys.

[Kyle Yeomans]

What is that, like four and a half million?

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

It's about, about four million.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Four million.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

About four million.

[Josh Rodriguez]

I would like to do that. That'd be great.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Sounds good.

[Josh Rodriguez]

You know, in theory.

[Kyle Yeomans]

In theory.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Kyle, I would like to challenge you to one thing. Next time you're calling Dallas Cowboy game, because we all know Kyle will be

[Kyle Yeomans]

calling a Dallas Cowboy game here at some point.

[Josh Rodriguez]

I challenge you. Whenever BRANDON Aubrey makes one of those 50 plus yers, can you please just say I can't believe it's not butter or something like that.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I gotta find a way. Yeah, I'm wondering. One, if that's trademark. Two, if there's a, if there's a way to play off of that. But say something good because if it's. If you can't believe it's not butter, then maybe that's.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Just say it, Kyle. You don't need to add theory into this.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I'm just saying, I just, I think there's got to be a little bit of.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Man, let me go ahead and just say this. Also, while we're talking about the kicker situation, before we quickly pivot over to the mock and everything, I'm seeing this on Twitter and I'm not liking this. So I'm going to say this. I don't care how much you paid your kicker, you don't play to kick. Okay? I want to be clear on that. You play to win. You play to win the game. Shout out to Herm Edwards because some people are saying, oh well, for what we're paying him, he better make 70 yard is you better not ask him to kick 70 yarders. And 65 yard, 60 yard is you better play and call offensive play calls as if you have the worst kick kicker in the league. Just play it that way. And if it so happens that that doesn't work out and you end up in field goal range, then guess what? You have the best kicker in the league who's now on a four year extension. That's got to feel great. But don't go into offensive drives feeling like, oh well, if we get to, you know, the, the opponent's 40 yard line, then no, no, no, it's great

[Josh Rodriguez]

for the halftime drill. It's great for maybe a two minute or. But don't rely on that.

[Kyle Yeomans]

You feel like they did that too much last year.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Yes, yes. Especially with how answer fast enough. Yes.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Glad you did.

[Josh Rodriguez]

With a healthy deck and you expect the offense to do what it does and obviously you're going to have a lot more consistency this year with the offensive line. Hopefully things are better there. You should not play to kick the

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

ball and unless it's a game winning draft situation and you're down by two points, then that would be the only exception. I want you to be aggressive depending on where the ball starts off at and kind of matriculated down the field. However, outside of that situation, situation, which even then I'd say take a shot right downfield, take one shot. But over the course of the game, do not allow Brandon Aubrey to Be your safety net. I don't care how much you're paying him. You pay for quality insurance. Right. I'm not gonna say the names because they're not sponsors, but you pay for quality insurance, sometimes it costs more because, you know, you want to know that if you need it, it's there and you don't have to worry about it. Right. But you don't go driving your car, trying to swerve into the barricades because you have great insurance. Like, just think about that for a second, folks. That's.

[Josh Rodriguez]

I like that analogy.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Yeah. You don't go drive. You know, I'm going to leave that. I'm going to go looking for an accident because my insurance is excellent.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Like a good kicker.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Aubrey is there. So I'm just saying for those that are saying, well, for what we're paying him. No, that's not how that works with the kicker. Kicker is insurance and you have expensive insurance and that should make you feel great. But don't go looking for an accident so that you can file a claim.

[Josh Rodriguez]

I like that.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Mic drop from Patrick Nosy Walker. What else we got on News and notes?

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

What else do we have on News and Notes?

[Kyle Yeomans]

Totally about it, right?

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Yeah, that's the big one. And that's. That's it. I mean, we heard from.

[Josh Rodriguez]

From Stephen last week, right?

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

We did hear from Stephen last week and Stephen had a couple of interesting points. And I'm going to bring this up here because this goes into the mock as well. Stephen Jones talked about one thing that really stuck out. Quick update. There is no change on George Pickens situation Cowboys and George Pickens continue to try to work that out. There's been no movement that's reportable right now, so. But he did say something Stephen Jones did to 153the fan about red shirts. That stuck out to me. And so I decided to write an article about that where on Dallas Cowboys.com and here is what he said, which backs up with Jerry said about the Cowboys being a little bit adverse, strongly adverse to red shirt players or potential red shirt players. Let's see.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Don't want to see him.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

This is the better quote. This is Stephen Jones to 105. 3 the Fan. When it comes down to a prospect's potential availability, he said, quote, what's his status for minicamp? What's his status for training camp? And then ultimately, will he be able to play a part of the season or none of the season? All of those are levels that we put into it and decide where we come down on that particular player, end quote. That lets you know that the Cowboys, while they're not completely out on a potential red shirt, they are likely out on any player that's going to miss a large chunk of time this season. And some news broke yesterday on McCoy out of Tennessee that it seems like for all intents and purposes, that's going to put him on the outs with the Cowboys. But we can talk about that as we get into the mock.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Yeah, I'm curious if there's another situation similar to Revel last year where he was coming in and it was kind of expected, at least from his people. Right. That he would be expected for week one, maybe week two, and then that was not to be the case. Is, is that something that you see the Cowboys reaching for in this draft?

[Kyle Yeomans]

Well, the thing with Jamal McCoy, he'll be healthy going into training camp, maybe even as early as minicamp. He's. He's 18 months removed from or 14, 15 months removed from the ACL injury and he's running around just fine. I think he'd be cleared by the time organized team activity started happening. Now the, the question has become and started to shift. Teams aren't as worried about the past injury as they are about the past injury paired with a possible degenerative knee situation that popped up at the NFL combine. So it's not just one thing. It's multiple things that teams are flagging him for.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Right.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I think his tape speaks for itself in 2024. I still think he's a tremendous football player. I don't think he's going to be a fit here in Dallas. If Dallas had a fully healthy cornerback room, then they maybe could take a chance on it. But they're not in a situation now where you have Rebel coming off of a major injury. You have Daron Bland coming off of a major injury and surgery this offseason, coming off of Kaylin Carson finally being healthy at the end of the year and getting his first fully healthy off season. Hopefully, knock on wood, in the middle of this year. You don't have the opportunity or the flexibility to take a possible medical red flag guy and put him in a room full of possible medical red flag guys. They want a clean bill of slate if they are indeed going to draft a cornerback. So in that case, that puts Mansour Delaine on the table at 12. I don't think he makes it past 12 if he's there. It depends on who else is there. Of course, we'll talk about it in the mock. But I also think Colton Hood is in the conversation too. The other Tennessee corner.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Agreed.

[Kyle Yeomans]

They've been very high on him. I think they have him probably right at the back half of those names that are first round consideration, maybe early second round, which if you're at 12 or 20, you may have to dip into your second round grades depending on how many first round grades you have at the defensive position. So all of that to be said, I still think there's a chance he could be on this team and they draft a corner. I just don't think it's going to

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

be Jerome McCoy they most certainly would prefer. And if you look at how Stephen Jones kind of parsed his point, he said that also in, in the, in the interview. Check out the article. He also said that the, this is not the only determinant in the discussion on a prospect. Right. So they're also going to look at all the other things as well. So to Kyle's point, it's very possible that Jaron McCoy could be a Dallas Cowboy, particularly if the Cowboys feel like he'll be ready for training camp and if not, most certainly at least ready for the start of the season. If they feel that's going to be the case, then that puts him in play. But when you're talk, I don't think

[Kyle Yeomans]

it puts him in play even if he is healthy and all of that is fair. I don't think he's in play at all.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

That's fair.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Maybe if he's there at 92, which, like, that's not possible. I don't think that's possible. If he's there at 92, they may entertain it. Yeah, I don't think he's in play really at all.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

So let's just keep the red shirt thought process in mind as, as Jerry Yeomans over here puts us to put some screws to us to see what we, what we decide in this month.

[Kyle Yeomans]

All right, so here we go. We're going to, we're going to run a, a mock draft simulation on the other side of the break or actually, you know what, I want to take a look at your mock first.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Okay.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I want to go through that when we come back. We're going to take a look at some of the other mock drafts first. Go through what the, the halls have been and what, which ones we liked. Then we'll run the live mock draft at the end of the show and we'll run through the first round for the Dallas Cowboys. More talking Cowboys coming up right after this.

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[Patrick Nosy Walker]

and he's such a diva.

[Kyle Yeomans]

It's tough. It's tough working with a diva quite like Isaiah. It's good stuff. Now we love Isaiah. We'll see him back, I believe next week when we he's got to sit

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

in that chair now.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I'm comfortable now, bro. Yeah, let's take a look at the science.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Yeah, Science Lab.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Patrick Walker's seven round Cowboys mock draft is available now on Dallas Cowboys.com I did see yesterday it was trending for a hot second.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

It was shouts out to Cowboys fans who love and follow the science. One knows that I do a an annual mock draft. I only do one. And I know a lot of people have wondered why I only do one. Honestly, it's a personal challenge to myself. It's not because you know, I'm not looking down on those who have fun with their mock. I know the mock draft Knicks are out there and it's it's a fun thing to do over the course of draft season. But I always want to see how accurate I can be based on their thought process. All the information that I get over the weeks preceding the draft, if I can get one or two hits, I'm always curious as to that. So that's my mindset. I want to see if I can do it in one go. So that dropped yesterday on the dot com and got a little. Got a little spicy, particularly on day one. All right, Day one led to some spice on day two and. Yeah, let's talk about the science. Let's talk about it.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah. So at 12, who did you go with?

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

I. I'm going to spoil it, but you still need to check out the article because I give measurables. I give.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah, there's a lot of stuff.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Yeah. Some scouting reports from these guys. Yeah, the charts. I give the context as to why this guy and not that guy. Perfect example. At 12th overall, the Dallas Cowboys were on the clock. And Patrick no see Walker, selected Cornerback out of LSU. Mansoor Delane, unanimous All American in 2025. For me, he is going to be the future at cornerback for the Cowboys. Now, again, if you read the context, this I'm not going to spoil. You will see why I went with Monsor Delaine. Some things happened on the board and I kind of got wiped out in a spot that I didn't want to get wiped out in. But nonetheless, Mansour Delane, he's headed to the Dallas Cowboys. In my mock draft as 12th overall pick, as the 20th overall pick, I chose no. 1. Would you like to know why I chose? No.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Did you forfeit the pick?

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

I bailed.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Oh, bailed.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Because again, read the context as to why, but based on how the board was falling, I looked at the linebackers knowing that I needed a linebacker. I had just taken a cornerback edge was getting wiped out and I said to myself, you know what, self? There's depth in this edge class. But I need to get me a linebacker. But I'm not comfortable going at 20 with the linebacker that I want. So bail out, get another pick that I'll talk about in a moment. C.J. allen, linebacker out of Georgia, is the second pick of the Dallas Cowboys. But after a trade with the Houston Texans, a trade. Trade that sent The Cowboys pick 28th overall, Houston gets the 20th overall pick and based on the draft value chart, slight overpay by Houston. But they came up to get who they wanted. I got the 59th overall pick to Dallas, which is a second round pick. So I got C.J. allen as the linebacker at 28th overall, which is a glorified second round pick. As we all know. And then to make sure for those that have an asterisk next to CJ Allen for this reason or whatever reason, I said to myself, I'm not afraid of the double dip. I like two scoops. I like two scoops. So when I was on the clock at the 59th overall pick, I looked at the edge and I said I could, I could hold off just a little bit longer. Third pick for the Cowboys, 59th overall after executing the trade with the Houston Texas linebacker out of the University of Texas. I can hear Tommy smiling. Anthony Hill Jr. Who's a local kid, obviously here for Dallas Day visit two time first team all SEC.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Didn't Ryan product.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Yeah. Big 12 Dent defensive player of the year. And his accolades go on and on and it goes from there. Now this is where I address the secondary. I feel like cowboy. I like what they did in free agency at safety, but only one of those acquisitions, Jalen Thompson I'm speaking of, is a long term solution. Okay. PJ Locke is on a one year deal. Malik Hooker is in a contract year plus. He'll be 32 by the end of this season. Got to figure out some things there. I went with 4th overall, 4th pick, 92nd overall, round 3 safety out of Penn State. Zaki Wheatley. I am a big fan of that guy. Fiesta bowl defensive player, defensive MVP in 2024. I think he brings something to the table that will thrive under Christian Parker and some of these new coaches that are coming in to coach the secondary. So I think that's going to be a good thing. Now here's why I really get excited. I was already exc. Excited and Josh knows what. Because we were talking about this as he was, yeah, this is. This is one for me. I feel like this might be my draft steal. Day three starts round four. 112th overall at the edge. Outside linebacker out of Wisconsin, one Mason Ryger Rager Rieger. Yeah, that feels so good to get him at 1 12th overall. I saw a couple of people who responded and thanks so much for engaging with me on this on Twitter. It's not that I need you, because I don't need you to agree, but I am here for the healthy discussion and a couple people felt like Mason was a little bit of a reach at 112, but based on how things were falling, there was always already an early run on edge. It started to kind of slim out. I said to myself, you know what? I'm not going to wait until the fifth round to get Mason. I'm. I'm not going to Hope he's there. I'm going to take him at 112 and be done with it. East, West, Shrine bowl defensive mvp.

[Josh Rodriguez]

He shined in that, Absolutely, no pun

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

intended, which also made me smile. When I saw he was still available at 112, I was like, I'm going to pick him. He was the guy. I wrote the East, West, Ryan bowl standouts. He was the guy, the top guy I saw coming out of that, that I wanted the Cowboys to look at. He was available. I took him. Now, want to have some fun? Because that was all defense, right?

[Josh Rodriguez]

Yep.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Well, what about offense?

[Kyle Yeomans]

And what pick is this?

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

This is the sixth pick for the Cowboys, 1 52nd overall in the fifth round.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Okay.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Wide receiver out of Oregon, one turbocharged Malik Benson.

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[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Malik Benson has a jet pack on his back. When you look at the wide receiver position for the Dallas Cowboys. CD Lamb. Check. George Pickens franchise tag or deal. Check. He's in the building. 2026. Ryan Flournoy. You know how I feel about flow. Okay, check, check.

[Josh Rodriguez]

But solidified number three.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Yeah, but once you get past WR3, what do you got? Exactly. Pause.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Trey Sean Holden, a former Oregon wide receiver.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Potential, yes, but you need more. Bottom line, you need more. They're not using Kevonte Turpin like you would like. And that could be due to his size and. Or the fact that he's your special teams guy, he's your returner. Hands, workload, things like that. Malik Benson, he's a burner. He got. He has hands. And because he's out of Oregon, he's a Junior Adams prospect. Right. So there's a connection there. And they've already shown interest in him. Seventh pick, round five, 177th overall. The. Stick to offense. You need depth at wide receiver. You know what you also need? You need an offensive tackle. We have questions about the left tackle. We've talked about it ad nauseam. Offensive tackle out of Boise State, fifth round, 177th overall. Cage Casey, two time first team All Mountain west last year and the year prior. Second team all Mountain west in 2023. If you haven't watched Cage Casey play football, I encourage you to do so. Once he drops anchor, you're not moving him. His anchor is exceptional. His hands are exceptional. There are some things that he would. That I would like to see him improve upon. If you want to see what those things are, go check out the mock draft. I put all of that in the scouting report and things like that. You know, Tyler Guyton has availability issues. You know, Nate Thomas is coming up. However, you also lost him to injury. You want to keep Tyler Smith at left guard, you need to have, you need to throw something else. A talented prospect with a high ceiling at left tackle, just in case. I think Cage Casey is that.

[Josh Rodriguez]

And if you trust anybody to pick a offensive lineman, especially one that could be a depth piece for you in the fifth round, that could possibly, like I said, do things for you. Dallas Cowboys.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Dallas Cowboys. And then of course, I know it's not as much as it used to be, but they have the pipeline to Boise State. We know how that works.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I would, I would argue Dallas has not had a ton of success in the later rounds drafting offensive linemen. You don't think so think about like Josh Ball, Matt Walesko, some of these guys that they had spent late round draft picks. Now if they're drafting in the first round, doing pretty good with that.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Right.

[Kyle Yeomans]

They're drafting in the middle like day three, like top 100. Cooper Beebe, you're doing pretty decent.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

There's.

[Kyle Yeomans]

And then undrafted guys they've had a ton of success with DJ Bass, Brock Hoffman. I mean, you kind of name some of the other guys that have been on that list, but when's the last time they've picked a day three offensive lineman and it's worked out just, just to play. Devil's adjective.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

No.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Yeah, 100%.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I'm with, I don't know if they

[Josh Rodriguez]

have, I just think the evaluation of offensive lineman, if they feel strong enough to get a guy at, you know, in the fifth round. Yeah. I would argue that they probably have a little more of a scope on what that person is able to contribute. I like the pick here. I, I, I really don't hate it.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

I do feel like, and I think

[Kyle Yeomans]

you have to take a offensive lineman at some point.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Right.

[Kyle Yeomans]

And they usually do.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

I think this is a sweet spot based upon your defensive needs.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Sure.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Absolute sweet spot. And then when you're ones.

[Josh Rodriguez]

I got a problem.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Yeah, no, no. And then when you look at Cage Casey and you're looking at what he can provide to you. One of the things with Cage Casey, with over 2700 snaps for Boise State in 2024, he had, he allowed only six pressures and zero sex. And he's the definition of balance as far as run blocking and pass blocking. 80 point, I think one, I'm not looking at the exact thing but like 80.1 grade as a run blocker, 80.4 as a pass blocker. He's the definition of like consistency. He can do it Both. He has the hands, he has the anchor. You again. If you want to know what I want him to improve upon, then you got to read the article.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I want to add a little science to your science. Come on with the science. But since 2020, they've taken at least one offensive lineman in every day.

[Josh Rodriguez]

3.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Every single one of them, only one of them has played as a starter the majority of a season and that was Tyler Biotish back in 2020. That was the only. He was a fourth round pick since then. They drafted Josh Ball in 2021, Matt Walesco in 2022. Awesome Richards in 2023, who I would argue he's been serviceable. Hasn't been a starter, but serviceable. Nathan Thomas in 2024 and then a Johnny Cornelius in 2025.

[Josh Rodriguez]

I think those three have yet to be seen though as far as like playing out exactly what they're capable of at this point.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I'm still comfortable with that and they're still around. So I don't think it's a failure.

[Josh Rodriguez]

We're talking depth pieces too now.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Now we're in the fifth round. Yeah. And, and I think Tyler Guyton with a round pick. When you get a guy like Cage Casey with, with his current skill set and the potential that he can be for you and you're getting that at the fifth round without sacrificing more premium picks at positions of need, I think that's a sweet spot to kind of peak there. And that's why, why I did 8th pick for the Cowboys. Trade.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Another trade.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Got a trade.

[Kyle Yeomans]

You traded twice in one draft. Is that allowed?

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Hey, I did it. It's done. The Cowboys had the 180th overall pick. I sent that to the Detroit Lions. So that gave the Lions a back to back pick at the the back end of the fifth round. And in exchange I took both of their sixth rounders. I took their 205th overall and 213th overall Cowboys. As a reminder, they had multiple fifth rounders. I think three. Three fifth rounders, three fifth rounders and no sixth rounders. I now we're talking depth shouts out to say I did this for you as well. Cowboys, as much as they need marquee players, they need talented bodies as well. So these are value. This draft is this trade down on day three is for value. Okay. To get more guys now that means with the 205th overall pick from the Lions in that trade, I took cornerback out of Alabama, Damani Jackson, Cowboys. You know, last time they took a cornerback out of Alabama it worked out well, at least for the first four years before the injury happened. Now, be not mistaken, I am in no way, shape or form saying Damani Jackson is the Trayvon Dix prospect. He is not. However, he has the athleticism. He has the physicality. I love him. And press man. He can operate in zone, but again, I love him impress, man. All he needs to do is be a little. Be more cognizant of his hands because at the NFL level, flags will fly. But he loves playing at the line of scrimmage. He loves disrupting guys off. Off of their breaks at the top of their routes. He's not afraid to get in there. He's not a zone primary guy, but he can play zone. My knock to him, and I'll go ahead and say this is for his athleticism, for the. His ability to stay sticky with guys, for his ability to be at the point of attack with the receiver. All of those things are true. I expect more takeaways. Okay. So if you're wondering, well, well, no, see, Will, you know, if he's all these great things, why didn't you get him until 205th overall? I expect more takeaways for the level of disruption that he provides. He has been in multiple position or positions multiple times on film for Bama and you know, I know all about Bama. Go Dogs. To not to only have come away with two interceptions in his career. That's. That's unacceptable. But I'm confident you get him with Christian Parker and some of these other secondary coaches, you can coach takeaways into a guy. Al Harris came here and did it for multiple seasons. Okay. The other things, not so much now with the 213th overall pick that I acquired in that trade from Houston tight end. You and I were talking about this sneaky need.

[Josh Rodriguez]

This is a sneaky need.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

I'm.

[Josh Rodriguez]

I'm glad that you said this. I'm glad that you brought this up because it's something that we has and we've addressed a couple of times on this show. I haven't really seen it in many other shows in that I feel like there's an opportunity there to elevate that room. I don't think that you're getting enough from Luke Skunmaker as far as playmakeability. You know, I. I don't. I don't think that's quite there. Brevin's fan Ford has shown glimpses of it. I would love to see him get more of the. The number two snaps or number one if I'm being Completely honest. But I think you need a playmaker there. I don't know exactly about Bentley's skill set or anything like that.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Who? I. I didn't even say the name.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Oh, my bad.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

You go ahead, go ahead now. I'm just joking with you. It's. It's D. Bentley, tight end out of Utah, 213th overall in, in round six. Go ahead and finish your point, Josh. It's a great point.

[Josh Rodriguez]

No, I just really think that there's something to be said about a play making tight end that you don't necessarily have. I mean you have Jake Ferguson, he's the security blanket. He's very much like we've seen from Jason Witten. More athletic obviously than Jason Whitten was. I just mean I would like to see somebody that has skill, that is able to get downfield of true vertical guy at tight end that the Dallas Cowboys have not had as long as I've been watching.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Now I will say this. The. The only knock that I have, the biggest knock that I have said he's 26 years old. Yeah, well there's. That's a knock. But the other knock is that I didn't say that he'd be here 10 years. I didn't say he'd be your TE1. I'll talk about the knock in a second. But that's a great point. So let me, let me dovetail off of that. You have Jake Ferguson, two time All Pro, had a much better season, etc. So let's just say he's your TE1. He's on a new contract. Cool. Former second round pick Lou Schoolmaker is going into a contract year. Don't know what his future looks like. May or may not be with the Dallas Cowboys.

[Josh Rodriguez]

You don't know what it is.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

May or may not be with the Dallas Cowboys in 2027. That's up to him in the front office. How he performs in his contract year, we'll see. Reverend Span Ford is making a strong push for TE2. Okay, Princeton fan is back. But we know what Princeton fan is at this point. So if you play the hypothetical of scoon not being here for whatever reason in 2027 and that you Jake and Brevin Spann ford, who's your TE3. I'm looking at that when I look at a guy like Bentley who by the way reminds me of a more. He's a more athletic Jason Whitten. And I don't mean that casually, I don't mean he's Jason Whitten. What I mean Is Jason Whitten doesn't drop passes. Dallin Bentley doesn't drop passes. Right.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Zero drops and 76 targets.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Zero drops. Dallin Bentley, Jason Whitten, he is the definitive security blanket from zero to about 15 yards. That's Dallin Bentley. He doesn't stretch the field. That's the biggest knock. So he's not a guy that's going.

[Kyle Yeomans]

He's a second Jake Ferguson.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Yeah, he's fair enough. That's a good comp. Although I would say Jake on your

[Kyle Yeomans]

roster, in your system. Yes, that's what he would do.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

That's fair.

[Kyle Yeomans]

And then Brevin's kind of your take the top off type of play. What I want, for the love of

[Josh Rodriguez]

God, let him do it.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Yeah. What I wanted, what I wanted to see in a six rounder.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Let him cook.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Dylan Bentley, shorthanded, to say the least. Zero drops, excellent inline blocker.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Run pass, I mean run protection. Right. Also a very willing and capable pass pro guy. Right. And he has the athleticism to make a guy miss here or there. I love the thought process of in 2027 if SchoolMaker's not here. Jake Ferguson, Brevin Span, Ford and then Dallin Bentley pushing bourbon Span for to make sure that he achieves what he needs to in that tight end room. So there you go. Final pick. Yeah.

[Kyle Yeomans]

We got a hustle.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Yeah. No final pick. I went with a freak because, you know, I'm a freaky kind of guy. Traits. Guy. Yeah.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Day three Traits.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Oh my God. I did not want to risk this guy to undrafted free agency. Final pick, 218th overall, round seven wide receiver out of Cincinnati. One Jeff Caldwell. Please go look at his miserables. And that includes the fact that he runs a 431 40. And that's just one thing that puts him in the 95th or higher percentile. He's in 95th or higher in height, broad jump, vertical jump, 40 yards. Look at that thing, man. It's like. It's like a scene from Spider Man. Brand new day. Or like Enter the spider verse. That. That's a web that I can get with. You understand this is a much like Malik Benson. If you notice, both of the wide receivers I chose are burners who can take the top off a defense, but are also not as not.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Like a Kevonte Turpin. They have size, they have catch radius. Could they be better underneath? Yes. But you have three guys who are excellent underneath, who can shed tackles, who can make guys miss. What I need is somebody when they're on the field. If I say go, nobody can run with them. So Jeff Caldwell, Malik Benson, those are going to be the wide receivers. So Jeff Caldwell finishes out my draft. Cowboys finished on my mock draft with 10 total picks including two the sixth. They got a second round pick out of it. Double dip that linebacker with C.J. allen and Anthony Hill Jr. Hill Jr. I blacked out and then of course, Monsieur Delaine. Welcome to Dallas at number 12.

[Kyle Yeomans]

There you go. All right, great stuff from Patrick Nosie Walker when we come back. We're going to do a live mock

[Josh Rodriguez]

draft in five minutes.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Real quick here on the draft or on Talking Cowboys.

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[Patrick Nosy Walker]

How's it going? You see that Cowboys game? Oh I watched. Been seeing some good things. Totally. They have some talent.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Yup.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Some great talent and they got some fight. Hoping this is the year. Me too. Oh I'm Cody by the way. I'm Travis. Nice to meet you Travis. Go Cowboys. Go Cowboys. Make a new friend based solely on their shirt choice.

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[Kyle Yeomans]

Back to Talking Cowboys. Welcome back into Talking Cowboys Lace up for the Dallas Cowboys Draft Day 5K presented by Baylor Scott and White Health Saturday April 25th at the Star in Frisco. Run or walk with family and friends. Registration includes a shirt, a medal and post race. Post race Draft Day fun. Sign up [e-mail] I like those words. Yeah, it's actually really fun. The Draft Day 5K is an awesome tradition that they do here. They shut down all the roads, make parking exceptionally hard for those that are trying to get in to do draft coverage that day. It's really great but we, when you come in actually are able to participate. It is a lot of fun.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Yeah, it's a lot.

[Kyle Yeomans]

They do a good job. All right, time for a live mock draft, gentlemen. You ready for this?

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Let's do it.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Remember, I am now the decision maker.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Okay?

[Kyle Yeomans]

You have to convince me, and I'm not going to make it easy on you. I'm going to bring up every possible point I can to disengage what you're trying to tell me.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Okay?

[Kyle Yeomans]

Okay. All right. We're going to start with the order that goes 1 through 11. The Raiders take Fernando Mendoza. The jets take Arvell Reese. The Cardinals take David Bailey. The Titans take Jeremiah Love. The Giants take Caleb Downs. The Browns take Francis Malinoa. The Commanders take Sonny Styles. The Saints take Carnell Tate, the wide receiver. Chiefs stay put. They did not trade up to three, and they did not trade back to Dallas. Delane is gone. Mansour Delaine Corner out of LSU. The Bengals at 10 take Jordan Tyson, wide receiver, out of Arizona State, who recently. There's a little bit of smoke that Dallas could be interested in a wipeout scenario. Well, this is the ultimate wipeout scenario. He's gone. And then the dolphins at 11, take Spencer Fano, the offensive tackle out of Utah. So just to recap. Mendoza, Reese, Bailey, Love, Downs, Malinoa, Styles, Tate, Delane, Tyson Fano, off the board for Dallas.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

You're up.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Josh Bain, you're going with Ruben.

[Josh Rodriguez]

I'm going to Reuben Bain.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Okay.

[Josh Rodriguez]

I've said that since draft coverage started on Dallas Cowboys dot com. I like his name. No, I like the. The player that you'd be getting for him. Obviously, you need help at the edge position. We've talked about it ad nauseam. The fact that Delane is off the board, to me, is a clear indication. I would. I was surprised, I would have been surprised if he had made it to 12 before the news broke about his off the field things. The fact that he's there at 12 is exciting to me. I feel great. I'm energized. Give me Reuben Bain.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Let me. Let me throw.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Let's say you Jerry, Kyle.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Let me throw a wrench into this real quickly. This is as. Kyle, not Jerry.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Okay.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Let's say they don't have a first round grade on Ruben. Bang. Let's say they have, let's say a second on it. Let's just, just throw hypothetical out of there. Yeah. I'm not reporting anything. This is just a hypothetical. Who would be in the mix outside of Bain if it's. Let's say all of their first round grades on defense are gone. Right. They're wiped out defensively, on defense or in their first round grades.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Right.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Who would be at the top of the second round for you? Bain would be one.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Bane would be one. Absolutely.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Patrick, feel free to interact.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

I'm also kind of letting you because I took most of the second segment with my mock. So kind of you all cook.

[Kyle Yeomans]

That's fair.

[Josh Rodriguez]

How highly do we think they feel about Rodriguez or Hill Jr.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Hold on, I have a question. Run down. Run down those names again.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Mendoza, Reese Bailey, Love Downs, Malinoa Styles, Tate Delane, Tyson Fano, Keldrick Falk. Okay. If you think he's in that mix.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

If. If. Because my first choice is Ruben Bane. So I want to be clear. I'm right there with Josh. It's Ruben Bane. I'm running that card in. I'm not thinking about it. I'm doing. Doing backflips while I'm on the way there. Well, not right now because I only have one leg, but in my mind I'm doing backflips. Yeah. But in Kyle's scenario of if for whatever reason, the news that came out has the Cowboys out on him as a first rounder. Ruben Bane, I mean, and they have him as an early second rounder, and now we're on the clock at 12. Is Keldrick fault?

[Kyle Yeomans]

Okay.

[Josh Rodriguez]

McCoy, we said was not in the Cowboys purview because of the injury.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Right.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I would take him out of that equation here. I would put Colton Hood in the equation. I don't. I don't think I would put.

[Josh Rodriguez]

I would feel more comfortable at 20 for hood.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Yeah. I'm not. I'm not at 12. That's what.

[Josh Rodriguez]

That's why I'm asking, do we know their feeling on Hill Jr. Hill Jr.

[Kyle Yeomans]

They're not high on Hill. I think. I don't. I don't think Hill would be an option even at 92.

[Josh Rodriguez]

What about. Oof.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah, I really don't think they're high on.

[Josh Rodriguez]

What about Rodriguez? Jacob Rodriguez?

[Kyle Yeomans]

I think they're high on him. I don't know if they're 12 high. I'm seeing his face behind you on that screen too. It's kind of funny. The mustache. That mustache is jarring.

[Josh Rodriguez]

That's a premonition. The.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah, maybe. Maybe so. I think he's their number two linebacker behind Styles. I think it's Styles, then Rodriguez, and there's a gap between. But I think he's their number two guy. So if they're at 20 and they get wiped out again and we'll see what happens after we make this pick, I think he could be in play.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Let me. I, I want to take the safe bet. To me, it's Reuben Bain. Kyle, the card is in for me.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Yeah, I'm outside of Kyle, but he's

[Kyle Yeomans]

got short arms now. Now I'm back to being Jerry.

[Josh Rodriguez]

I don't give a toot, man.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Why?

[Josh Rodriguez]

That's what I would tell.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Okay? Trust me. Okay. I want you to defend the short arms. Why does that not bother you?

[Josh Rodriguez]

Look at him, okay? I mean, look at, look at his production on the field in Miami. Come on, man.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Look at.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Okay?

[Josh Rodriguez]

That, that is all I tape in the production.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Doesn't show short arms. And you're okay with that?

[Josh Rodriguez]

I'm okay with that.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Okay. You feel the same? Patrick, I'm.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

I'm so not as concerned about the whole short arm thing as, as most others because at the end of the day, I think that you know who

[Josh Rodriguez]

also has short arms? A Tyrannosaurus rex dude. And that's who you need back there, buddy.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Listen, Reuben, Bane overcomes any kind of shortcoming that might exist with his, his arm length, length, with every other attribute that he has in his body. So. Yeah, no, I'm not. If I were not to. If I were to not go with Bane at 12, which I would. It wouldn't be because of the short arms. Yeah, yeah. That's not gonna. That's not a deal breaker for me from him.

[Josh Rodriguez]

If anything, it might be a character thing and I don't know how shoddy feels about that.

[Kyle Yeomans]

About the, the, the car.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I mean, I don't think they're worried about it.

[Josh Rodriguez]

If they're not worried about it.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I'm asked about it and it's a one.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

I think it's proven to be a one off. No other issues off the field.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I'm glad you brought it up just because it will be a conversation.

[Josh Rodriguez]

It will.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I don't. But I don't think there.

[Josh Rodriguez]

That might be an analyst. Espn, NFL Network conversation. I. They've had. They've known about it. The case has been Smith. It's. I think we're good.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Yeah.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Give me 12.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I'm going to go with you. And I. And it's also based on my knowledge as Kyle because I'm playing two different roles.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

I got inside knowledge.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I think they would consider Bain. I know there's been some smoke where. You know what? We may not have Bain on our board at 12. I think they still would.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Would.

[Kyle Yeomans]

So I would take Reuben Bay, especially in this scenario. In this scenario where you get wiped out if there are any of those five names above him, any of the five names where it's Delane, Styles, Downs, Bailey, Reese, any of those guys fall, they're the picket 12.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Yeah.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Any of those five. I think Bane is the SEC, the sixth option and I think he's the secondary tier of guys, but he's at the top of the second tier and that's where I think he totally. So they are going to stick and

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

pick will be Bane.

[Kyle Yeomans]

They're going to take Ruben Bane. All right, now we're going to fast forward a little bit here. The Makai Lemon goes to the Rams. Dylan Thienaman goes to the Ravens, who I think would very much so be in play at 20 if he were to fall. Another Oregon player, Kenyon Sadiq goes 15 to the to the Buccaneers. The jets take Monroe Freeling, your dog at pick number 18. Then Vega Ione goes to the Lions at 17. Emmanuel McNeil Warren goes 18 to the Vikings. And then Omar Cooper goes to the Panthers. Wide receiver out of Indiana.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Take your pick, buddy.

[Kyle Yeomans]

You got a lot of options.

[Josh Rodriguez]

You got a lot of options.

[Kyle Yeomans]

A lot of options. Here's.

[Josh Rodriguez]

I like these words.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Here's some of the names that are still on the board.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

I know my pick, but go ahead.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Colton Hood, C.J. allen, Akeem Mezador, Keldrick Falk, Avion Terrell Cassius How. Kaden Proctor, TJ Parker, who I know they are very high on. I'm looking at some of the other possibilities here. Brandon C. Say who they like a lot. Jacob Rodriguez is on there.

[Josh Rodriguez]

CJ Allen is on there.

[Kyle Yeomans]

CJ Allen is on there.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Done.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I don't think they feel as highly. Remember I just said Rodriguez is her second.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Wrong.

[Josh Rodriguez]

I. I'm just kidding.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I kind of feel you. He's coming off of a knee and maybe there's a red shirt element there.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

He's fine.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I think he'll be fine.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

He's fine.

[Josh Rodriguez]

I agree how I say it. Go Dogs.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Wow. Okay, so out of those choices, who do you feel confident in? Let's take CJ Allen out just because I'm pretty confident he's not at that point on their board.

[Josh Rodriguez]

That's fair. Kyle.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

I guess.

[Josh Rodriguez]

I'm sorry. Rodriguez.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Okay. He would be higher or he would be. He would be up there in the conversation. I think they would take Colton Hood here.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

That's my pick.

[Kyle Yeomans]

You take.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

You take C.J. allen off.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah. You take Ruben Bane. You get your edge rusher at 12. I bet the Bobby Belt walking by the studio. I bet you that Colton Hood is in conversation there. Clean body, clean bill of health.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Where are your linebackers, Kyle? Are they coming after the draft?

[Kyle Yeomans]

They're coming after the draft.

[Josh Rodriguez]

That's a, it's a George Pickens situation where you get your guy afterwards or

[Kyle Yeomans]

maybe one of those guys falls. I know they like Rodriguez. We talked about Anthony Hill Jr. Talked about or we haven't talked about it on this show, but Josiah Trotter I think is in play. There are some guys there that they like. C.J. allen if he falls, maybe because of

[Josh Rodriguez]

the medical, but not your main green dot guy.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Not right now.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Yeah, yeah, my pick is CJ Allen, but with Kyle's hypothetical, I go quote, unquote Hood in that hypothetical, I being in that hypothetical. What I don't like is the same thing Josh just said. I love that you got your edge, but who's your linebacker? Yeah, you know, it'll come out and that. Right. And, and in this scenario, you're at 12, you've picked at 12, you're about to pick at 20, which means you're sticking at 20, which means you don't have a second round pick, which means you're not going to pick again until the third round. You're not getting your first linebacker off the board into your third round.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Yeah, I don't like that.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

I don't like those words.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I don't like that you're going to cover two bases. That third one's going to be left wide open. No matter how you spin it.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Those words, I don't know. I liked how I spun it in the mock draft. That's on Dallas Cowboys.

[Kyle Yeomans]

That's pretty good.

[Patrick Nosy Walker]

Out of 21 to 28, got me a second round pick. Double dipped at linebacker.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Appreciate you guys. We'll be back next week to talk about what do they end up doing on Thursday through Saturday in the 2026 NFL Draft for Josh Rodriguez for Patrick, Nancy Walker for Paul Bastitas in the back. I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long from talking cowbo. We'll see you next week. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys.com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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