Talkin’ Cowboys: Offense Must Solider On

Summary

Talkin’ Cowboys: Offense Must Soldier On

Podcast: Talkin’ Cowboys (Dallas Cowboys)
Date: September 18, 2025
Hosts: Kyle Yeomans, Isaiah Stanback, Patrick "No C" Walker, Josh Rodriguez

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Episode Overview

This Thursday edition of "Talkin' Cowboys" dives deep into how the Dallas Cowboys’ offense plans to push forward despite injuries, previews the upcoming matchup against the Chicago Bears, and features segments like "QB Vision" and "Lab Coat" with in-depth analysis. The crew addresses concerns around the offense with key injuries on the line, shares optimism for backup starters, explains the defensive strategies they expect from Chicago, and highlights statistical insights about Dallas' early-season success.

Main theme:
How will the Cowboys offense maintain momentum with shifting personnel, especially at center, and overcome the Chicago Bears’ physical yet undermanned defense?

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. North Texas Giving Day & Community Involvement

• The episode opens with a discussion about North Texas Giving Day and the importance of community engagement.
  • "For those that have a passion for helping others and impact others, please go do some research on foundations that might be near and dear to your heart." – Patrick Walker (01:53)
• Website: northtexasgivingday.org

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2. Cowboys Injury Report (04:12 – 09:10)

• Daron Bland:

  • Did not participate in practice (foot injury), not expected to play against the Bears.
  • “He’s not trending toward playing… I would pencil him out of this week.” – Isaiah Stanback (04:48)

• Trevon Diggs:

  • Missed practice with illness, should recover in time for the game.

• Tyler Guyton:

  • Limited (shoulder). Concern is minimal; described as an estimation due to walkthrough practice.

• Kevontae Turpin:

  • Limited (neck). Shows positive recovery trajectory—no neck brace observed and possibly available for Sunday.
  • Medical staff praised for caution, especially with neck injuries (LVE, Damone Clark references).

• Bears Injury Situation:

  • Multiple players with hamstring issues; star CB Jaylon Johnson out indefinitely, weakening their secondary.
  • “Jalen’s starting cornerback is going to miss… that is going to impact their ability to try to stop an offense and a passing attack that seems to be finding its groove.” – Isaiah Stanback (09:18)

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3. Confidence in Brock Hoffman Replacing Cooper Beebe at Center (10:18 – 15:15; 19:25 – 21:07)

• Brock Hoffman (nicknamed “Mr. Glass Eater,” “Juggernaut”) will start at center.

  • “He’s exceptionally confident… his main position growing up was center.” – Kyle Yeomans (10:49, 11:41)
  • Experience playing center through high school and college; recent NFL work at guard.

• Hoffman seen as a “1A, 1B” to Beebe, not a major step down.

  • "I have confidence in Hoffman… I just don’t want him to get outside of himself emotionally." – Patrick Walker (11:17)
  • Chemistry with other linemen highlighted; his mauler mentality fits with the current interior line group.

• Fun segment:

  • Bet that if Hoffman allows "zero sacks and less than two pressures," Josh Rodriguez will wear eye black on Monday’s show. (19:35)

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4. QB Vision: Chicago Bears Defensive Preview (21:07 – 38:10)

• Bears Defensive Standouts:

  • Montez Sweat (#98): Capable edge rusher, “a dude when he wants to be.”
  • Grady Jarrett: Interior lineman to respect, though less impactful so far.
  • Dayo Odeyingbo (#55): Flashes on film.
  • Tremaine Edmunds (#49): Middle linebacker, "the heartbeat of their defense… very aggressive, very physical." (22:25)

• Defensive Style/Keys:

  • Chicago's defense is extremely physical and handsy at every level.
  • Defenders are “aggressive with their hands,” will body receivers throughout routes.
    • "It’s like Dennis Rodman fouling you every play… they’re going to do it every single play." – Isaiah Stanback (23:06)
  • Defensive game plans have shifted year-to-year and week-to-week; expect a mix but likely to favor two-high safety looks vs. Dallas’s strong pass game.

• Coverage Philosophy:

  • In games against teams with multiple receiving threats (e.g., Detroit), they played conservative “two-high” coverage.
  • Bears’ man-coverage alignments are atypical—DBs use outside leverage, funneling everything inside, leading to heavy traffic in intermediate/deep zones.

• Attack Opportunities:

  • If the O-line gives Dak time, crossing routes (especially to Lamb, Pickens, Tolbert, Ferguson) can create big plays.
    • “If you have the time up front… huge opportunities for big plays.” – Isaiah Stanback (29:45)
  • The over-aggressiveness and physicality create room for counters, wham blocks, and cutbacks in the run game.

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5. Running Game & Offensive Identity (31:10 – 34:47)

• Ground Attack Stats:

  • Dallas averages 5.1 yards/carry (tied for 3rd in NFL) and is in the top three for rushing TDs (four total).
  • "This is a top-three rushing attack that the Cowboys are taking to Chicago now." – Isaiah Stanback (31:37)

• Bears’ Weakness vs. Run:

  • Chicago ranks 27th in rushing defense (allowing 148 yards/game).
  • O-line physicality is key; over-aggressive Bears can be exploited with misdirection plays.

• Former Cowboys in Chicago:

  • CB Nahshon Wright (now a starter due to injuries) and former Cowboys secondary coach Al Harris present revenge/chess-match elements.
  • “If there is anybody in this league… who knows the weaknesses of the receivers that Dallas has, it’s Al Harris.” – Patrick Walker (33:58)
  • But… “There are levels to this. If you’re telling me that Nahshon Wright can lock up CeeDee Lamb, I’m laughing in your face.” – Isaiah Stanback (37:11)

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6. Lab Coat Analytics: Play Action and Passing Success (43:26 – 48:33)

• Play Action Dominance:

  • Dak Prescott ranks 2nd in completion percentage above expectation (CPAEx) on play-action passes (+25%).

  • His passer rating on play-action: 105.6 (24-point improvement vs. non play-action).

  • Play-action reduces the "tight window" percentage defenders yield (fewer contested throws).

    “Establish the run in Chicago… that will then strain the secondary… and you can walk away with a convincing win.” – Isaiah Stanback (45:39)

• Crucial for Dallas:

  • Need to run successfully to open play action and exploit the Bears’ depleted, shaky secondary.
  • Running game sets up favorable coverages, giving Dak and the WRs time/space.

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7. Potential Challenges & Historical Struggles (46:08 – 49:57)

• Concerns:

  • Dak has struggled historically against Dennis Allen defenses (4 previous matchups; only 86.1 passer rating, 1 TD, 2 INTs last meeting).

    • “Give credit to Dennis Allen… but when I look at the horses, he doesn’t have the same ones.” – Kyle Yeomans (47:24)

  • Still, personnel is different; Dallas offense is healthier and more potent, while Bears lack their top CB and are struggling up front.

  • O-line must be dominant to keep pressure off Dak. If the Bears’ front gets to him repeatedly, things could go south.

    “If they start getting to him early… Prescott in the pocket… I don’t like that idea of a panic Dak.” – Josh Rodriguez (48:50)

• Urgency / Bears’ Desperation:

  • Bears are desperate for a win under new head coach Ben Johnson, making them a dangerous opponent.
  • "Desperate animal is an unpredictable animal… play them as if you’re playing the Packers, the Eagles, the Chiefs." – Isaiah Stanback (49:15)

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8. Mind Games & Coaching Intrigue

• Matchup includes emotional subplots:
  • Former Dallas assistants on Chicago's staff, ex-players facing old teammates/coaches.
  • “Chess game” of coaches (Al Harris) knowing the Cowboys’ tendencies and how Brian Schottenheimer/crew will counter.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “Stay ready so you don’t have to get ready.” – Brock Hoffman via Kyle Yeomans (10:49)
• On Hoffman’s “Juggernaut” mentality:
  • “Once he gets going, nobody can get in his way. It’s over.” – Isaiah Stanback (14:44)
• “There are levels to this. If you’re telling me that Nahshon Wright can lock up CeeDee Lamb, I’m laughing in your face.” – Isaiah Stanback (37:11)
• “Dak Prescott leads the league with a 75% completion percentage on third down resulting in a first down… Dak Prescott is on an absolute heater.” – Isaiah Stanback (48:31)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• North Texas Giving Day & philanthropy: 01:45 – 03:20
• Injury Report & Updates: 04:12 – 09:10
• Brock Hoffman & Offensive Line Discussion: 10:18 – 15:15, 19:25 – 21:07
• QB Vision: Bears Defense Breakdown: 21:07 – 38:10
• Lab Coat Analytics (Play Action, Cowboys Passing): 43:26 – 48:33
• Discussion: Dak vs. Dennis Allen, Offense vs. Bears Urgency: 46:11 – 50:36
• Closing Remarks / Bears Context: 50:36 – end

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Conclusion

• The Cowboys are well-positioned to exploit a battered Bears defense, particularly on the ground and with play-action. Offensive line performance and discipline are critical, especially for backup center Brock Hoffman’s performance.
• Despite historical challenges vs. Dennis Allen and potential trap elements given Chicago’s desperation, Dallas’s talent and current offensive form provide reason for optimism.

Look ahead:
Tomorrow’s episode is “Say It With Your Chest Friday,” where bold predictions will be made and more deep dives into the matchups will be shared.

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Transcript

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[Patrick Noi Walker]

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[Kyle Yeomans]

The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys.com and the Dallas Cowboys Football club.

[Peyton Manning]

How about them Cowboys?

[Isaiah Stanback]

Go Cowboys.

[Kyle Yeomans]

This is talking Cowboys streaming live from the Dallas Cowboys world headquarters at the Star in Frisco.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

CD Lamb.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Touchdown.

[Peyton Manning]

It's on.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Jake Ferguson. Touchdown.

[Peyton Manning]

Keeps it.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

And he bangs it into the touchdown.

[Kyle Yeomans]

And now your hosts, Isaiah Stanback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez and Kyle Yeomans. It's a Thursday edition of Talking Cowboys presented by Black Rifle coffee company live from the Star in Frisco, Texas in the SWBC studios. Welcome in, everybody. We've got Patrick no see Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah Stamback with Chris Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yeomans. We've got the whole cast and crew ready for you to today. Today is Thursday. What does that mean? Josh Rodriguez.

[Josh Rodriguez]

It's say it was just Thursday.

[Isaiah Stanback]

What.

[Josh Rodriguez]

What's the Thursday actually today? Cowboys offense versus Bears defense.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

You know what else today is?

[Josh Rodriguez]

We're gonna bear down. Am I right, fellas? No.

[Isaiah Stanback]

No, we are not.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Today is also North Texas Giving day.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Important day.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Giving day. So for those that have a passion for helping others and impact others, please go do some research on foundations that might be near and dear to your heart. I'm not going to steer you one way or another. There are two foundations that I'm a part of personally. There are a bunch of others that I, that I help with and engage with. But whatever's near and dear to your heart, I, I would implore you to go give something, whether it's your. Whether it's your black rifle coffee money for the day. You know what I'm saying? You're one cup or, or whatever it might be, y', all, but help somebody else today. I encourage you to do so.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Love that. I love it.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Absolutely. And even if it's. If, if you can't do it from a monetary reason, sign up. Yeah, you know, go, go volunteer. Go help out in the community. I know a lot of times, especially like early on in my career, I didn't have the money, I didn't have the finances. And I said, hey, like I'LL take time to go and help with different, different charities along the way. But North Texas Giving Day, is there a website for that?

[Isaiah Stanback]

Do you know?

[Patrick Noi Walker]

There is. I mean, I can pull.

[Kyle Yeomans]

We'll look up the exact one as we go along, but we'll continue to update you there. But yeah, feel free. Go, go, go. Do it.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Go do the right.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Be a good human.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Do it now if you're able. North texasgivingday.org Extra time.

[Josh Rodriguez]

You have the extra money. Absolutely.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Yeah. The Cowboys do a lot, too. So there's, there's a time they do. They have their own foundations and things of that nature. So again, whatever's near and dear to your heart, whatever that you're passionate about, I guarantee you there's a foundation that is attached to it.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Good.

[Kyle Yeomans]

North texasgivingday.org so there you go. All right, Patrick, what's with the orange hat? We're playing the Bears this week, dude.

[Isaiah Stanback]

This is.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

But it has a star on.

[Peyton Manning]

I'm just saying.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I know.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Cowboys hat and it matches his shirt.

[Josh Rodriguez]

It does match the shirt.

[Kyle Yeomans]

It does match the shirt. That is get the Marvel shirt on.

[Josh Rodriguez]

One thing Patrick's going to do, it's going to match his shirt, dude, he's going to match his shirt. He's going to match his shoes. He's going to match the hat.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I, I appreciate the match game.

[Josh Rodriguez]

He does.

[Kyle Yeomans]

It is.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Thank you. What did you say?

[Patrick Noi Walker]

I'm colorblind color.

[Isaiah Stanback]

This.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

This also is white, black and blue. That's what I would say.

[Isaiah Stanback]

This is more of a, a cream type orange.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Oh, like creamsicles are orange.

[Isaiah Stanback]

I said it's more of a creamsicle variant of orange. I got you. I got you.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Now.

[Isaiah Stanback]

I hate it here.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Get into some news and notes.

[Isaiah Stanback]

News and notes. First of all and last of all, Cowboys injury report came out. Yesterday's the first one of the week versus the Bears. As expected, Daron Bland did not participate with the first foot injury. No, he is not trending in a. In the he's not trending toward playing for the against the Bears. So that's not.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

They have a lot of weapons though, the Bears. Yes.

[Isaiah Stanback]

No, they have. They have a couple. We talked about it yesterday and QB Vision is going to talk about it today. They do have a couple. They don't have what the Eagles had, but nonetheless.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Ow.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Daron Bland didn't practice with the foot injury. I would pencil him out of this week. We'll see how it goes. Trevon Diggs missed practice with an illness. Tyler Guyton, he was limited with a Shoulder yesterday was a walkthrough by the way. So simulated practice. It's key to note that. And Kevonte Turpin was limited with his neck injury. So here's what's key about Kevonte Turpin. So I spoke with Turpin immediately after the game versus the Giants. He had the neck brace on. I said hey Turp, are you okay? He said I'm good. I'm good. Okay. Day before yesterday I saw him walking around the building without the neck brace on. Yesterday again without the neck brace. And now he's limited participant in the walkthrough. Take that. Combine it with what Jerry Jones has told 153the Fan, which Stephen Jones has told 105threethe Fan and what Brian Schottheimer has told the media as a whole. And it Turpin is in a great position to potentially play this week and not miss any time. Is it guaranteed? No. Has to go through the week, has a couple of actual. So today will be shells and then tomorrow will be full padded. He has to get through those two practices before Cowboys can clear him. But he's at least on a positive track towards Chicago.

[Josh Rodriguez]

If you guys are coaching the team and you see this opportunity here for Kavonte to Urban if he's not 100%, do you put him out there against the Bears and risk possibly the future for Kevonte Turpin possibly missing more if he gets. If he re aggravates that injury in his neck?

[Isaiah Stanback]

For me it depends on what the injury is.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Right. So yes. When you see. Right. It hasn't. So when you see that it's a neck injury. Rightfully so you get a little anxious. Rightfully so it is scary, especially in this league. Right. But if it's. If it's muscular as opposed to, you know, structural. Structural. If it's simply muscular and you know a spasm muscle or something that needs to be massaged out or worked out, then I'm fine with that. If it's structural, I don't think that they would risk it at all because they know of all teams they know what it means.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Oh, of course. And the training. This is all the precautions for it. I'm just saying like just we were surface level. If you're looking.

[Isaiah Stanback]

If there's anything.

[Josh Rodriguez]

I don't want them out against the pack.

[Kyle Yeomans]

No.

[Isaiah Stanback]

If it's anything related to structural, I'm a hard no on that.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Josh is asking the question that pops up on Madden and like.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Yeah, like Substitute.

[Kyle Yeomans]

If you press X, he stays in. But he's got a high risk of injury. Like re injury. That's what, that's what Josh is asking.

[Josh Rodriguez]

I'm letting him sit. You know, if that were me, sit up.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Good news is the trading staff says he's fine. This is a team that knows they've.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Rubbed plenty of dirt on and I'm.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Sure pour some tussin on that thing. This is a Cowboys medical staff and you talk about Dr. Cooper. I mean they are extremely proficient with diagnosing and working through neck issues.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I mean they're not going to take a chance.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Look at the mon. Clark, for example, who did the moan. Who, who found them on Clark's injury? Pre draft. Cowboys. Who did the procedure?

[Kyle Yeomans]

Cowboys.

[Isaiah Stanback]

They. They're kind of proficient with Nick Slayton, Vanderish and the issues that he had and you saw how precautious they were with him. The fact that Kevonte. I don't like how you're looking at me. I get what you're saying. The fact that Kavonte is even allowed to participate in a walkthrough right now with no neck brace, that tells me that hopefully it's not structural. It's probably just mus. They're trying to work some things out.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Tyler Guyton concern you at all with the shoulder?

[Isaiah Stanback]

No, not as we have this conversation. I've not heard any concern around the building about that.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Of course it pops up at 3 o' clock on the injury report. It was after locker room so we weren't able to ask anything about it.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Yeah, that's true. But just typically though, if there's a major concern of some sort about a player, we'll hear about it. Usually, you know, whether we're asking about it directly to certain people inside the building or the news kind of wafts toward our desks. Right. So I've. I'm not hearing anything about Charlie Guy and also saw Tyler Guyton in the locker room yesterday after practice and he was in good spirits. He was fine. You know, he was slapping five. He was.

[Josh Rodriguez]

And to be fair, Wednesday practice participation is more of an estimation. Because it was a walk.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Because it was a walkthrough. Yeah. So as we have this conversation, I don't have a concern. And of course again, this is also combined with the fact that Tyler got and looked perfectly fine as far as his spirits and everything in the locker room and. Yeah. So I don't think there's any concern there and hopefully that stays the case.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Moving into the latter parts of the injury report you talked about, Diggs, that's just an injury, correct?

[Isaiah Stanback]

That's. Yeah, it's not even an injury per se. It's an illness. It's an illness. So as long as it doesn't linger, there should be no, no availability, no jeopardy for his availability in Chicago. Now, if you flip to the Bears side of the equation, hamstring, hamstring, hamstring, hamster. And of course, you know, one of the. Jalen's starting cornerback. He is going to miss indefinite amount of time for the. For the Bears that per multiple reports earlier this week. So that is definitely going to impact their ability to try to stop an offense and a passing attack that seems to be finding its groove right now. So, yeah, Bears are really banged up, but on the cowboy side of the ball, you're just looking at Vonte Turpin trending in the right direction to Ron Bland. Doesn't look like he'll take the field this week. Trayvon Diggs illness should work itself out over the next couple days. And Tyler Guyton, I don't have a concern about that right now. Thursday morning. Ask me again tomorrow.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yesterday we did have the opportunity to talk with Brock Hoffman for a little bit.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Yeah, we did.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Of course, he's with who, Brock Hoffman?

[Isaiah Stanback]

Yeah.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Mr. Glass Eater himself, because he. He's going to fill in for Cooper Beebe. We asked him about the confidence level. Of course, he's exceptionally confident. And he talked about preparing like a starter every single week. That way you have to. You don't stay ready. You got to stay ready all the way through. Stay ready so you don't have to get ready. That's his.

[Isaiah Stanback]

That's the quote.

[Kyle Yeomans]

He was like, you know, it's like I always say. I was like, I don't think you came up with that, Brock. I was like, I don't. I don't think that's your quote.

[Josh Rodriguez]

And then he gave you an F5.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I still love it.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Yeah.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah. But. But no, I was, I was impressed what they had to say yesterday. And it's not like, I mean, we talked about this Monday when BB went down or Tuesday when the news came out. We talked about the confidence level in Brock Hoffman. How high is your confidence whenever he's the one filling in for BB up front.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Yeah. No disrespect to BB, but I look at them like 1A, 1B in my eyes, neither one of them are extremely dominant. So I think they both do a good job when they're in there. I like the aggressiveness of Hoffman I think that's going to be needed versus this aggressive front for the Bears. So, yeah, I have confidence in Hoffman. I've never. I've never had any issues with Hoffman. I just don't want him to get outside of himself emotionally.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah. And one thing that I think fans forget because he has played a lot of both guard and center throughout his career here, but he said it yesterday that the comfort or his main position growing up, his number one position growing up was center.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Yes, it was.

[Kyle Yeomans]

And he said he only recently started playing some guard, which people forget at times, but he has the natural ability to make that move to center.

[Josh Rodriguez]

And I don't want anyone to get concerned because TJ Bass was taking reps at center in the preseason. I mean, that was one of those things where I think it was more so for TJ Bass to get the reps in.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Yeah.

[Josh Rodriguez]

And not necessarily indicative of what Brock Hoffman was bringing to the table at center. He's proven that he can be a solid center, a backup center, especially on this offensive offensive line, and he has the chemistry already with the guys that are on there. So it's. It's definitely not concerning to me. I'm very confident in what Brock Hoffman is able to do if you. If you don't want anybody out. But that is a spot where you feel the most comfortable.

[Isaiah Stanback]

I'd say I could agree with that. Especially when, all things considered, it's. It's what Josh is saying. It's what Kyle is saying. Referring to Brock yesterday, reminding everyone that may not have or that may have forgotten and those that may have not known. He played center primarily in high school in North Carolina. He played center for Coastal Carolina, primarily there. He played center, center at Virginia Tech mostly when he was there. It wasn't until he got to the NFL with the Cowboys that he then played primarily guard. So now it's really just knocking some rust off as far as, you know, pre snap assignments, reads IDs and things like that. And really the snap, it's. Which is what we were kind of concerned with. There was kind of a. A bot snap. But then if you go back and look at it, it's like, was that on Brock? Was that on deck? Nonetheless, that that operation needs to be clean every single time. So that's what we have to keep an eye on. But as far as knowing the position, this is not a situation where, like, Cooper Beebe was transferring from guard at Kansas State to center. Brock was a center move to guard, moving back to center. That's a different dynamic entirely. And I love. We already know by his demeanor. Glass eater, lunch pail guy, blue collar. I asked him yesterday in the locker room, I said, you know, how exciting is it to have your type of demeanor? And then look to the right and see Tyler Booker and look to the left and see Tyler Smith. That's three maulers. And for one of the first times ever, Brock Hoffman showed his teeth. He smiled. He smiled. He's like, I'm excited just thinking about the fact that the cowboys can have three maulers in the middle of that line.

[Josh Rodriguez]

That's fun. He's gonna bite somebody out there.

[Isaiah Stanback]

You know what I mean? Like, through the face mask. Yeah. Grab the hands.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

I feel like he should be like in the opening scene for every war movie. You know, war paint coming out the mud.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Just a shield. He has a severed head or something.

[Isaiah Stanback]

And in honor of the Marvel shirt I have on, I'm just gonna. I'm just gonna call Brock Hoffman juggernaut from now. He's. He's juggernaut. Yeah, he's juggernaut.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

I like.

[Isaiah Stanback]

It's the same demeanor. Once he gets going, nobody can get in his way. It's over. So Brock Hoffman.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Please have a good game.

[Kyle Yeomans]

If he gets absolutely mauled on Sunday, we're gonna come back Monday looking like no.

[Isaiah Stanback]

You know why? Because. Because believe it or not, oops. Juggernaut. He. But he's still juggernaut.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

He gonna do an interview with Kyle next week. He's like, you know what? Like I always say, I'm the juggernaut.

[Isaiah Stanback]

What's the whole phrase, though?

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Say it. Oh.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Brock Kaufman starting at center for your Dallas cowboys. When we come back on talking cowboys, it's time for a little QB vision. This is a double episode, though, because not only do we have QB vision in the next segment, but in segment three, we're gonna have some lab coat.

[Isaiah Stanback]

We are.

[Kyle Yeomans]

It's a double Thursday edition combo pack.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Combo. Can I handle double?

[Kyle Yeomans]

I don't know. Can you stick around with more talking cowboys after this?

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[Patrick Noi Walker]

That's our promise to you. Because no matter the project or the challenge you're facing, we're with you. We're united.

[Kyle Yeomans]

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[Isaiah Stanback]

How's it going? You see that Cowboys game? Oh, I watched. Been seeing some good things. Totally. They have some talent. Yup.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Some great talent.

[Isaiah Stanback]

And they got some fight.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Hoping this is the year.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Me too. Oh, I'm Cody, by the way.

[Kyle Yeomans]

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[Isaiah Stanback]

Nice to meet you, Travis. Go Cowboys.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Go Cowboys.

[Isaiah Stanback]

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[Patrick Noi Walker]

I'm home. Hey, Mom. Before you ask, I've done my homework and the dishwasher's unloaded.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Nice. Hey, can you. Hey, hon.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yes, I've got the finale ready to play.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Here's your wine.

[Kyle Yeomans]

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[Kyle Yeomans]

Back to Talking Cowboys.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Brock Hoffman.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Welcome back to Talking Cowboys. This portion of the show is brought to you by Invisalign, the official smile of the Dallas Cowboys.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Hoffman has a good game.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Oh, man.

[Josh Rodriguez]

I'm telling you right now, I'm the juggernaut. He allows zero sacks. I will come in with his eye black.

[Isaiah Stanback]

No, you won't.

[Josh Rodriguez]

I will do it.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Allows zero.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Okay.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Zero sacks. I feel like you're gonna be here Monday with the eye.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Yeah.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

How many pancakes?

[Kyle Yeomans]

Ah, that's tougher.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Yeah.

[Kyle Yeomans]

What about.

[Isaiah Stanback]

I'll take zero.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Zero sack. Zero pressures.

[Isaiah Stanback]

One pressure. Yeah.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Give them one.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Give them one pressure.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Give them one.

[Josh Rodriguez]

So I'll do it.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Less than two pressures. Zero sacks.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Yes.

[Kyle Yeomans]

And you'll be here Monday with the eye black on?

[Josh Rodriguez]

Yep.

[Isaiah Stanback]

All right, Bet.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

No pressure.

[Isaiah Stanback]

We need that, Brock.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

No pressure.

[Isaiah Stanback]

If we're only to see Josh in the eye.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

No pressures. You have to go get up with Jody and have him 3D print you a juggernaut hit.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Yeah.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Jody could do it. Anybody could do it. Jody and.

[Josh Rodriguez]

And then we have to not address it the entire episode. I'm just wearing the eye black.

[Isaiah Stanback]

We just have to be oblivious to it.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Everybody's gonna be like. Like, what is going on?

[Josh Rodriguez]

The lights get in my eyes a little bit.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Yeah.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Pull the Amber Garcia.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Yeah.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Oh, shades on.

[Josh Rodriguez]

She needs to do it for an episode. Maybe we should bet her.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I don't know.

[Isaiah Stanback]

She's never ever.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Never, ever, ever. You know what we are gonna do, though?

[Josh Rodriguez]

She's a lot funner than you guys think.

[Kyle Yeomans]

That's maybe. All right, it's time for a little wide 80. Wide 80. It's time for QB Vision with Isaiah. Stan.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

We're back for another episode of QB Vision. I'm gonna let that one go. Yeah, you should let that.

[Isaiah Stanback]

You should. It's a great idea.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

I said nothing.

[Isaiah Stanback]

I'm just.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Just reading some analytics here.

[Kyle Yeomans]

QB Vision.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

QB vision. So let's talk about these Chicago Bears.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Da Bears. Duh.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Bears.

[Kyle Yeomans]

How are we on Wednesday or Thursday and haven't even made that reference.

[Isaiah Stanback]

I said it yesterday.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Did you?

[Isaiah Stanback]

I did.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Oh, man.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

I missed it.

[Isaiah Stanback]

I did. I wanted to see if Tommy was going to jump on it. He, duh.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Bears.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

When you guys think about the Chicago Bears defense, who are some of the star players that you. That you would should be aware of.

[Isaiah Stanback]

From Yalls opinion, the one they'll be without.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Okay. And.

[Josh Rodriguez]

And a lot of guys that are already listed on these.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

So I'll highlight a couple guys that please pop off the film for me, please. There's One guy, number 98. His name is Montez. Montez Sweat. You guys are very familiar with him.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Yes, He's.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

He's a dude when he wants to be. When he wants to be. There's another gentleman that's over there that hasn't necessarily showed off on film yet, but I think you still got to respect him, and that's Grady Jarrett. But another gentleman that pops off the film for me is number 55. And Kyle helped me with this pronunciation.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Dale? I think so.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I believe so.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Okay, so he pops out. He's a right. He's a defensive end for them. He pops off the film for me. And then the last gentleman that really jumps off the film for me is number 49, Tremaine Edmonds. I've always liked his game. He used to play for Buffalo. He plays middle linebacker for them. Tall dude with long dreads sitting in the middle of the defense. He is very aggressive. Yes, absolutely. Dread, fight, dread, lock it up. Very aggressive, very physical. He is really, in my eyes, the heartbeat of their defense. I believe that everything starts and stops with him.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Odangbo.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Odangbo.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah, it's three syllables.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

That's interesting.

[Kyle Yeomans]

It actually helps you out a little bit.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Absolutely, it does. But I believe that Tremaine Edmonds, in my opinion, is there is their dude. Obviously they brought in Montez sweat, paid him a bunch of money to go get good at get after quarterbacks. But in terms of being the heartbeat of the defense, I truly believe that it's 49. So what do they do? Well, I think that they get off the ball very well. On the defensive line, I think they're very aggressive. Everybody on their defense is very active with their hands. So in terms of Dallas, I believe this will be the most physical game that Dallas has had collectively. I'm not just talking about just the trenches. I'm talking about everybody. Defensive line does a good job of getting out the ball on time, physical with their hands. They're relentless up front. They're not going to stop. It's not going to be a first contact and then I'm stopping and try to put my hands up and Knock a pass down. These guys are going to keep working their hands and keep working their second and third moves to try to get to Dakota at the secondary. These guys are going to come up and they're going to put hands on you. Right when these guys decide to step to the line of scrimmage, they are going to put hands on you for not just five yards, they're putting their hands on you. Really at the five yard mark. They're going to let you get off the ball the first five yards and then they are literally putting hands on you for the remainder of your route. So CD Lamb, George Pickens, Jalen Tolbert, even almost said Schultz Ferguson. Okay, Ferguson, you guys are going to have to be physical throughout your route. So this is not a. Oh, man, he's touching me. After five yards, these guys are going to do it every single play. It's like Dennis Rodman fouling you every play. And knowing that the refs aren't going to call every single one, they'll take one or two just to know that they can play that way their whole game. So this is going to be physical for everybody across the board, coverage wise. What do they do? Well, they've had two games, two completely different opponents with two completely different skill sets. They've shown two completely different game plans. The week one they played against Minnesota Vikings. Minnesota Vikings. Well, they kind of have a rookie quarterback. So what do they say? Oh, you're a rookie.

[Isaiah Stanback]

All right.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

We're going to come up, play man to man and make you find a way to get. Get the ball in the hands of these guys. We're going to get after you. We're going to put a little bit of pressure on you and see if you could deliver the rock.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Okay?

[Josh Rodriguez]

So they were getting.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

They were getting home quite a bit. So that was their game plan. Versus J.J. mcCarthy versus Ben Johnson. They're old. I'm not. Versus Ben Johnson. Versus. Versus. The Detroit Lions are old and Ben Johnson's old team. They've had to play things a little bit different. The Detroit Lions have more weapons. Okay. Obviously Minnesota has Justin Jefferson, but J.J. mcCarthy had to get him the ball. Now you're playing against Jared Goff and he has all the resources, right? He has Williams. He has helped me out with the receiver.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Same brown.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Yeah. LaPorta. They had all the guys, right? So you can't play them the same way that you played Minnesota. You can't be as aggressive. So what did they do? They played a lot of too high. So when you try to find the Identity of this Dennis Allen defense. It's really hard to say who are they? At their core, it seems like they've had a completely different game plan. Just like Eber Flutes had a completely different game plan from week one to week two.

[Josh Rodriguez]

So it seems like they're trying to play multiple.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

They're trying to play multiple. But I think at their core versus a team that has multiple weapons and a quarterback who's capable, we can clearly, we can. It's safe to say that we can. We can expect a similar game plan that what we saw versus Detroit. Okay. And versus Detroit. Two high safety. Yeah, very.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Even though you'd think they want to throw the tape out on. On that.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Yeah, right.

[Josh Rodriguez]

You would think so, but it's surprising that the score was what it was. But if you look at the first quarter, in the second quarter, it didn't like. It didn't start off that way.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

No, it did not.

[Josh Rodriguez]

It didn't start off like a snowball effect. I mean, that happened more so in the second half. But like you're saying the two High was working for them early on.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Too High was working early because they are running. And I look at Next Gen and Next gen and I are just not connecting this year in terms of what they're saying coverage is versus what I'm seeing on film. So I have to disregard the analytics that I'm seeing there and go with my eye test because this is what I do. But too high. Vision after vision, after all. And if you guys check my socials, I in the sky. So these guys run too high, but they run, they want to run different variations of COVID two. And what I'm seeing is when I look at Next Gen, it says they didn't play any man.

[Isaiah Stanback]

That's a lie.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

They play, they play two man. But typically when you play two man, you have two high safeties. Your. Your cornerbacks usually sit on the inside of the receiver's leverage so that they can force the receiver towards the sideline. So they have the sideline and the safeties to be their extra defenders. These guys play two man from outside leverage and they try to force the receivers inside. So they're kind of trying to bottle them up. What?

[Isaiah Stanback]

That, that.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

How does that put stress on their defense? Well, when you play two man from an outside technique and you allow receivers to have an inside release, yes, you're funneling them all in kind of towards the middle of the field. But now as the receivers climb to the second level, as you can see, if you go back and watch the Detroit Lions film. If they get to the second level and especially down to the third level, where the safeties are at. Now, these safeties, instead of just playing in their half zones, these guys are trying to cut receivers. And what that means is if I, if a receiver comes across to my zone, I am going to take him as if it's man to man, right? And what happens is the Dallas Cowboys have a huge opportunity, if they can, can give Dak Prescott time, George Pickens, Jalen Tolbert, CD Lamb can run crossing routes all day long at the third level because these safeties are having to try to communicate at that level of who's taking who. If a tight end comes in my area, I have to take him because that's my responsibility. But if somebody else comes across, there's nobody there for him. The only person that can guard him is the person that was following him from the line of scrimmage, which is a cornerback. So safeties getting up to the safeties can cause the Bears a ton of issues. However, when you're running across from the first level to the second level, and I already mentioned the number one player from on their defense, from my perspective, is who? Tremaine Edmonds, number 49, the Big Long, the big tall dude with the long dreads, he is turning, literally turning his back in a variation of COVID 2 and looking for color. He's looking for who's coming across the middle. I am going to go to that individual, so you have to get over that, that individual, and he's going to follow you. So now you have the person that you started with the line of scrimmage following you. You have the middle linebacker that's taking the first man that crosses his face, and you have that far safety that's jumping. So now how many people was that? That's three guys taking one guy. So if you have the time up front, if you have somebody else going the opposite direction, huge opportunities for big plays. But you have to have the time up front.

[Josh Rodriguez]

You have to have the time up front. And like you're saying, if they have guys up front that you are, you're marking out, you're saying these two guys, at least on their defensive line can give you some problems.

[Isaiah Stanback]

They can.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Your offensive line has to be at their best against these guys to give Dak the time to get downfield and get to the third level, like you're saying. But I think a big part of that also is run game.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Yes.

[Josh Rodriguez]

You have to establish that early and.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Often, and you can do that versus them. Because they are 27th in the league in rushing defense, they are giving up an average of 148 yards on the ground per game. You can run the ball on these guys. Now you're going to have to get move them out the way because they're going to get off the ball aggressively and you got to deal with that dude 49 who's coming downhill physically. But I think that their over aggressiveness can be utilized against them in the type of running scheme Dallas has shown through the first two weeks works very well against over aggressive defensive fronts because we have. You're running counters, we run encounters, we have backside cut offs, we have wham blocks. So these guys as they come off the ball, they're coming off looking for physicality and we're leaving the def. The in man on the line of scrimmage and then soon as he thinks that he's free, he goes to try to go make a play. And now all of a sudden the tight end is chopping his knees down or ear holing him, right. So there's a huge opportunity for big time plays, which leads me to believe that there might be an opportunity for some young running backs that can have big plays that I think that you might see because of their style of defense.

[Isaiah Stanback]

So to your point and to Josh's point, I'm glad. Good alley oop. Because I was, I was about to go to the rushing attack. First and foremost, the Cowboys ground attack led by Javante Williams. I tweeted this out yesterday. They're averaging 5.1 yards per carry through the first two weeks. That's tied for third highest in the NFL. Okay, so they're top three in that category. There are four rushing touchdowns, three of which belong to Javante Williams, also third most in the league. This is a top three rushing attack that the Cowboys are taking to Chicago now.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

I'm sorry, one more time, top three who?

[Isaiah Stanback]

The Dallas Cowboys.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Oh, the team that everybody was worried about.

[Isaiah Stanback]

The running. Yeah.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Game. Because they didn't, they didn't sign a big time. Okay, just making sure we're.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah, I was worried about it. Yeah, I was.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Oh, for good reason.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah, for good reason. Over the past two seasons I've been very worried about it since Tony Pollard is no longer a part of this.

[Josh Rodriguez]

They said something earlier.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Figuring it out.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

I told you I came. I said running game's going to be.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Solid as long as they can block for him up front. You said it.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

I.

[Isaiah Stanback]

That was the heading. His. That was the wreck he was taking his head on. And now Top three rushing defense.

[Kyle Yeomans]

We got a long year.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

We do.

[Isaiah Stanback]

We can only talk about what we know in front.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

So I just wanted the people to. I just wanted to hear it again.

[Isaiah Stanback]

So through two weeks of football, Cowboys have the a top three rushing attack. They're going against a Bears defense, Russian defense that allows the following 233 rushing yards over expectation. That's in the red. Let's see first downs over expectation. 10 first downs over expectation. Their success rate also one of the worst in the league. All goes to what Isaiah is saying. It's the reason why they're the fifth worst rushing defense in the league. Now here's where it gets that much more enticing for the Cowboys. Not only can you run against this team but it then sets you up for the play action. And there's a play action stat coming in next segment with lab coat that's going to help support this. But now we look at the secondary that Isaiah so skillfully dissected in his QB vision segment. This is. We keep saying it. This is a defense that is without Jalen Johnson with the groin injury.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

You know who they have Dick.

[Isaiah Stanback]

You better not say who I think you're about to say their starter. Is this the Nishan he played opposite. Is this a nayshawn right revenge game. I knew that's where you going.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Even though they lost their all pro corner. You know. You know who was playing across from that all Pro.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Naysha Wright, former top 100 pick for the Dallas Cowboys.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Something I want to throw in. Something I do want to throw.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Love our draft pick.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Something I do want to throw in though that, that. That people will look by and you can probably. It's probably will. You'll be able to help with this. One of the greatest coaches that Dallas.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Lost this year is where Al Harris. In Chicago. In Chicago.

[Kyle Yeomans]

So corners and the defensive.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Listen respect on Al Harris. We all respect the crap out of Al Harris.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Better put some respect.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

If there is anybody in this league I just want to throw this out there. Right. They have not shown that they have been great in coverage. But if there is anybody who knows the weaknesses of the receivers that Dallas.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Has at least one of them.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

CD and Tolbert.

[Kyle Yeomans]

But what about Pickens?

[Isaiah Stanback]

Doesn't.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Doesn't.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Doesn't know picking.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Doesn't know picks. But he knows ball.

[Isaiah Stanback]

You just talked about.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

You know what I'm saying for sure. But we. But Pickens has not necessarily shown.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I get it.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Aggressiveness at the line of scrimmage to date. Right. So I'm just saying I'm just putting this out there just to just put some respect on Al Harris's name. Even though the personnel doesn't seem to be there, Al Harris knows everything about the receivers that the Dallas Cowboys have. So if there was an area of opportunity for him to go to Dennis Allen and be like, hey, I know this is what we've been running. However, this is what you should do versus these guys.

[Isaiah Stanback]

This.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

You might see some different things. That's all I'm saying.

[Isaiah Stanback]

You said this respect on Al's name.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Really interesting. Yesterday Brian Schottenheimer was asked about that, like coaches versus players who are playing against teams that they're either formerly of or have played a ton of in their careers. And he said, I don't really like, rely on the players a whole lot. So, like, let's throw Nayshaan right in there as a thing. But he said, coaches, I take a lot of stock in that. So Al Harris, if he's talking to Dennis Allen and he's going to his defensive coordinator, he's saying, hey, there's this, this, this and this. Then boom, there's one way to play these guys.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

This bothers him, this frustrates him.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Same thing that Matt Eberflu said about and when he was in the offensive meetings talking about the Chicago defense. So. So it does. It goes back and forth. It is just kind of an interesting chess game that happens throughout the week.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

When it comes to this.

[Isaiah Stanback]

There's. I didn't mean to cut you off. No, there's so much intrigue on that topic. I'm glad you brought it up because we mentioned it yesterday because one of the topics that Cal presented to us yesterday was the emotional component. Matt Eberfluss going back to Chicago. But then again, you have Al Harris and you have Kenneth Matthews, former Cowboys coaches. They're now on the second.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Jack Sanborn.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Jack Sanborn. I mean, there's a lot going on here. Ben Johnson versus Matt Eberfluous from their time. You know, Lions versus versus Bears. There's a lot of cross pollination as far as Sean Wright, who's going to look for the revenge game, who's not. Now, I say that and I say this 100% unequivocally put respect on Al Harris's name. You have to do. So we've seen what he's able to do.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I think most of our listeners.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Yeah, they do.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Everybody kind of knows.

[Isaiah Stanback]

And you saw Sean get. Get the pick six and toasted first, right?

[Patrick Noi Walker]

And he came back and got the picture.

[Isaiah Stanback]

What was that first thing you said.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Toasted.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Okay. Toasted. This is. This is where it brings me. This is the point. It brings me to. Without Jalen Johnson, Michonne Wright becomes one of your premier guys, one of your premier corners in Chicago going against George Pickens and CD Lamb. I'm taking that bet 100 times out of 100 times. And if I lose one of those bets, I'm still up 99. Right?

[Kyle Yeomans]

It happened.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Right? So, yes, Al Harris will have these guys ready. He will coach them up.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Yes.

[Isaiah Stanback]

But there are levels to this. If you're telling me that Naysha Wright can lock up CD Lamb, I'm laughing in your face.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Yeah.

[Isaiah Stanback]

No disrespect to Naysha, but again, there are levels to this. If you're telling Sean. Right. Can lock up George Pickens, I'm laughing in your face. No disrespect to me.

[Josh Rodriguez]

He's nephew.

[Kyle Yeomans]

If he's going man to man with.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

CD I don't see that happening. I don't think. I don't see that happening.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I'm saying.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

But I do believe this is just me throwing it out there. I know we gotta get out so we can get back to. I think that this might be the most emotionally challenging game for CD and the reason why I say that is because he's facing two people. A player that he face every day in practice, and he's facing a coach that literally coached against him for numerous years, you know, on his team. But his guys were practicing against him every single day for a number of years. They know him.

[Josh Rodriguez]

And it's an added mind game on top of it.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Exactly.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

So listen, I can't physically beat you, so how do I get to you.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Mentally going to be a chess match? It already has been between those two. All right, when we come back here on Talking Cowboys, a little bit of lab coat.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Patrick.

[Kyle Yeomans]

No see, Walker takes center stage, talks about a little bit more of CD Lamb, huh?

[Isaiah Stanback]

And we're going to talk about the passing attack. Passing attack based upon the running game.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Complimentary football in lab coat when we come back right after this.

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Nice. Hey, can you. Hey, hon.

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Yes, I've got the finale ready to play. Here's your wine. Wow.

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[Patrick Noi Walker]

Welcome back into Dear Doctor, the show where I answer life's questions with an ice cold can of Dr. Pepper. Sheila, let's hear from another next caller.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Would you Dear doctor My friend supported.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Me during a tough time, but what's.

[Isaiah Stanback]

The right gift that says thanks for.

[Peyton Manning]

Being a shoulder to cry on?

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Okay, this one's easy. I say give her a delicious Dr. Pepper. Nothing says thanks girl better than a one of a kind soda. Yes, any Dr. Pepper flavor will do. Now, just a reminder that I don't need to be a real doctor to know that Dr. Pepper is the one you deserve.

[Kyle Yeomans]

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[Isaiah Stanback]

To.

[Kyle Yeomans]

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[Patrick Noi Walker]

Oh, which is going to be crazy.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Can I win ball the year, Kyle? You probably could.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

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[Josh Rodriguez]

You think so? It wouldn't be a conflict of interest?

[Kyle Yeomans]

Probably a little bit.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Darn.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

I mean, who talks about conflicts of interest, Honestly?

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah, who cares?

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Nobody cares about conflicts of interest.

[Kyle Yeomans]

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[Josh Rodriguez]

That was me. That was me.

[Isaiah Stanback]

You've earned that.

[Josh Rodriguez]

And I picked him just about every single game.

[Kyle Yeomans]

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[Patrick Noi Walker]

All right.

[Kyle Yeomans]

We forgot it yesterday. I'm sorry, Pat.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

How dare you?

[Isaiah Stanback]

It's all good, brother. I'm sorry. It's all good.

[Kyle Yeomans]

But you know why it's all good?

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Double header.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Double header.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Yeah.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Thursday double header. It is a matinee. It is time for some lab coat.

[Peyton Manning]

Yes, science.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Yeah, science. We got lab coat this week. Perfect segue from segment two to this portion of lab coat. This is pulled directly from this week's science lab column which will be up and live on DallasCowboys.com at 11am Central Time. Shouts out to the webmaster.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Bang.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Boom.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Dallas Cowboys dot com.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Check it out.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Got some good stuff.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Yes. This science lab is an extremely deep dive into just how hot of a start the Cowboys offense is going into week three. Now let's circle in on play action because we talked about the Cowboys entering Chicago with a top three rushing defense in the league, both in rushing touchdowns and in average Yards per carry at 5.1 carried primarily by Javante Williams. He looks every bit refreshed like he is that all rookie guy for Denver. Margo.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

That's without a change of pace back.

[Isaiah Stanback]

That's without a change of pace back.

[Josh Rodriguez]

That's being a bellcast.

[Isaiah Stanback]

This is going to be key because not only should, not only can you establish the run against Chicago, but you should so. And here's why. Play action totals the Cowboys are completion percentage above expected is 24.8. Roughly 25% second in the league. When Dak Prescott throws a ball off of the play action. Okay. 25% of that goes above the expected yardage. Second best in the league. Okay. His tight window percentage, it's 16.8%, 17% on non play action drop backs it drops to 11%. Don't play action. Why is that Isaiah? Because defensive backs and linebackers and even the edge rushers have to pause. They have to give pause and respect it.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Paul.

[Isaiah Stanback]

They have to and respect it. So that's, that's more than a 5% decrease in the tight window percentage that Dak Prescott faces when he's doing a play action passer rating. Passer rating is 105.6 for Dak Prescott in the play action situation. That is a 24 point increase over non play action plays.

[Josh Rodriguez]

That sounds good, Patrick.

[Isaiah Stanback]

That is damn good. I say all of this to say I'm good.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

It's damn good.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Establish the run in Chicago, especially being that they have a defense that will allow you to do so. That will then strain the secondary that is already strained without Jalen Johnson on the field. And you can walk away with a convincing win in this game and do it.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Any hesitation that you generate from play action is going to give your receivers time to get to that third level Isaiah was talking about in QB vision. So guess what, Dak Prescott, you are up. It is time.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Can I, can I rain a little bit on the parade?

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Can I kick it?

[Josh Rodriguez]

Rain Dakota.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Rain Dakota Prescott.

[Peyton Manning]

Yeah, maybe a little bit.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Dak has not had a ton of success against Dennis Allen before. Hey, he has not.

[Isaiah Stanback]

It's.

[Josh Rodriguez]

I don't like that.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Factual. I'm sorry. They've. They have faced off four times in their career. Dak and Dennis Allen. Last year, you remember what happened when Dennis Allen played against Dak Prescott in week two of the season. It was a 4419 Saints win.

[Josh Rodriguez]

All right.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I'm just saying they're all a good.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Game of the year.

[Kyle Yeomans]

One passing touchdown, two interceptions, three seconds taken for Dak in that Matchup out of the four different starts, QB rating, passer rating, 86.1. That's 28th out of 40 quarterbacks that have ever played against Dennis Allen more than twice. Okay, 28th out of 40.

[Isaiah Stanback]

That's. That's not great.

[Kyle Yeomans]

It's not great.

[Isaiah Stanback]

I have a great point.

[Kyle Yeomans]

See, and I was hoping you would because I think I agree with everything and I think the personnel is different. I think it's a different situation. When you look at the stats, it's been over four straight games, so there's something to that. Give credit to Dennis Allen where need be. But when I look at the horses, he doesn't have the same ones. No going up against.

[Josh Rodriguez]

And Dak has a lot, very much.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Arguably has the better horses that he's ever had in his career to work with.

[Isaiah Stanback]

So counterpoint you. You kind of added to some of that different personnel on both sides of the. Of the sideline. Okay. I will also add that going into week one, there was a lot rightfully and justifiably and accurately said about Dak Prescott struggles against. Guess who? Vic Fangio. If not for the drops, Dak Prescott and the offense might have hung close to 40. On Vic Fangio, things might just be different. Okay. This is also a Dak Prescott this year who thus far leads the league with a 75% completion percentage. On third down with resulting in a first down, Dak Prescott is on an absolute heater. All he needs is for his receivers to catch the ball. Dennis Allen, historically, he's had the success. He has had some success. He's down his best corner and he has a defensive line that will allow you to run the ball in Chicago. Combine that with what Dak is doing right now going into week three.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

You like it?

[Isaiah Stanback]

I like it. I like. I like Dak in this one.

[Josh Rodriguez]

But the big crux to it for me is the offensive line has to be physical. They have to.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Brock Hoffman has to be physical.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Yes.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Tyler Smith has to be physical.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Yes.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Tyler Booker has to be physical.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Yes.

[Isaiah Stanback]

I like my odds all the above. I like my above.

[Josh Rodriguez]

But they got to keep that clean 100 if they start getting to them early. And Dak is, you know, scrambling in the pocket, seeing ghosts. I don't like that idea of a panic deck. Prescott in the pocket it against the Bears. And then also you tie that into what Chicago potentially could be doing against this secondary. I don't like. I don't like it, man. You get behind like you did with the Giants, and I don't want to do that.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Pulling from the Giants game. It's just, it's critical that, and I said it yesterday, it's critical that the Cowboys take several lessons from that. But the major lesson is rem remind yourself this is a week to week league. Yes, the bears are 0 and 2, but that also means they're desperate for Ben Johnson's first win. Ben Johnson, desperate animal, is an unpredictable animal. Go in there and play them as if you're playing the Green Bay packers, as if you're playing the Eagles again, as if you're playing the Kansas City Chiefs. You don't have to, don't play down. Do not feel you will find yourself in a spot where you're in a, I was going to say a dog fight, a fight with a bear, a bear fight. DiCaprio in the river. You just don't want that fight in the woods.

[Kyle Yeomans]

His final Oscar, his first Oscar, he got it done.

[Isaiah Stanback]

You don't want, you don't want a revenant situation. So go in there, get off to a fast start, quiet the crowd, demoralize the secondary and walk out of there with hopefully a convincing win.

[Kyle Yeomans]

They have a hope in Chicago that they'll win these next two games. Dallas and Las Vegas are their next two and they go into their early bye week. They get a week five by, that's terrible. But they would, they need a win and they, in their eyes, they need to be 500 going into that. So yeah, like you said, desperation certainly playing a factor.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Ben Johnson in his press conference yesterday where he's talking about how they're practicing, he's like, this is not how a championship team practices. He's so frustrated, man. And, and you got to feel for him. I, I do. I thought he was a really good coach and there's a reason, I think we were all saying his name when we were doing the head coaching search.

[Kyle Yeomans]

You know, he was, he was a hot commodity.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Hot commodity. And he's having a tough go so far.

[Kyle Yeomans]

And, and I think, though, I think.

[Isaiah Stanback]

That he'll figure he'll, he'll. Things will settle in for Ben Johnson, but not this week.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Not this week. All right, that's going to do it for us here on Talking Cowboys when we come back tomorrow. It's time for a. Say it with your chest. Friday. Say it with your chest. You're going to say it with your chest, Isaiah.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

I'm going to say with my chest. I'm going to save these stats that I just found.

[Isaiah Stanback]

Oh. Oh, come on.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Not good. Oh, what is.

[Isaiah Stanback]

He doesn't like how they choose Eber.

[Patrick Noi Walker]

Flutes versus Ben Johnson for the last few years.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah, it's not great. We'll, we'll, we'll talk about it. Say with your chest. Friday, tomorrow, 9am Central Time right here on Dallas Cowboys.com and the Dallas Cowboys streaming platforms for Patrick Noi Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah Stambag, Chris Beam in the back, I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long from talking cowboys. We'll see you tomorrow. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys.com and the Dallas Cowboys football club.

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[Isaiah Stanback]

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[Patrick Noi Walker]

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