Talkin’ Cowboys: Panther Pressure

Summary

Talkin’ Cowboys: "Panther Pressure" — October 8, 2025

Podcast: Talkin' Cowboys
Episode: Panther Pressure
Date: October 8, 2025
Crew: Kyle Yeomans (Host), Patrick "No C" Walker, Isaiah Standback, Josh Rodriguez, Chris Beam (Producer)
Location: The Star, Frisco, TX

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on a preview of the Dallas Cowboys offense as they prepare for a crucial matchup against the Carolina Panthers. The crew discusses shifting their traditional weekly preview schedule, offers news updates—particularly around the Cowboys’ safety depth—and delivers a detailed breakdown of what to expect from Carolina’s defense. QB Vision with Isaiah dives into matchup specifics, while the team praises coaching and play development. The discussion is sprinkled with Cowboys-centric humor and inside jokes, creating an energetic and engaging listen.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Programming Change: Shifting Defensive Previews

• The show will now preview Dallas defense on Thursdays (instead of Wednesdays), aligning with Patrick Walker's weekly "Science Lab" feature and allowing for "QB Vision Wednesdays."
  • Quote: "From now on, we will preview the Dallas offense on Wednesday and the Dallas defense on Thursday. Sorry, it's a dictatorship." (Kyle Yeomans, 02:55)
• This change is intended to better match up the show's strengths and segment specialties.

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2. News & Notes: Julius Wood Returns and Injury Updates

• Former UDFA safety Julius Wood has rejoined the practice squad to add depth after Malik Hooker’s IR designation.
• The crew speculates this move may be in response to Donovan Wilson’s injury status.
  • Quote: "He [Wood] is a hitter... made some waves in training camp last year. He was a roster casualty and final cut downs, went to the Titans... But he's back on the Cowboys practice squad—Cowboys obviously need some safety depth and insurance." (Patrick Walker, 03:30)
• Injury watch is focused on key players: Tyler Booker, Tyler Guyton, Tyler Smith, CeeDee Lamb, Kevontae Turpin.
• First injury report for the week expected later that afternoon (around 3 PM CST).

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3. Dallas Cowboys’ Offensive Success: Where Does It Start?

• Stat: Cowboys have the #1 total offense, but the most yards allowed on defense (defensive discussion saved for Thursday).
• Isaiah credits the offensive line’s performance, emphasizing its role in both pass protection and enabling the run game.
  • Quote: "It starts with the offensive line. I mean, we could talk about all the skill position players... but ultimately, the big fellows... are the ones allowing for your entire offense to be collaborative." (Isaiah Standback, 08:04)
• Chris Beam highlights Dak Prescott's career-best performance and the lack of external recognition due to defensive underachievement.
  • Quote: "If you don’t have Dak Prescott, this is not the number one offense in the NFL. I don’t think people realize that enough or give him enough credit." (Chris Beam, 09:43)
• Discussion on the underrated role and potential of backup players, emphasizing the opportunity over inherent skill differences.
  • Quote: "Everybody that is on the NFL roster is capable. Though I might be down on the depth, I am very much so capable. You're in the league now." (Isaiah Standback, 16:00)

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4. Coaching & Offensive Identity: Brian Schottenheimer’s Impact

• The crew revisits an early-season question posed to OC Brian Schottenheimer regarding modernizing the offense for Dak Prescott.
  • Schottenheimer’s philosophy: "I'm a big believer in cut splits. I'm a big believer in shifts and motions to distort things... There's a tempo element we're excited to mix in that our players have all shown an affinity for." (Brian Schottenheimer audio replay, 11:43)
• The staff’s quality is praised:
  • "It is impressive... Connor Riley, Clayton Adams... That staff is pretty damn good." (Chris Beam, 39:32)
  • "There was not a buddy system, no Mike Nolan-esque hire... just who's at the top of their craft." (Patrick Walker, 42:27)
• The group stresses the collaborative foundation among coaches (Schottenheimer, Riley, Adams)—vital to offensive growth post-McCarthy play-calling era.
• Motion use is highlighted as a marker of offensive modernization: Dallas is running motion on 68% of snaps (up from 58% last year, above league avg).
  • "10% increase... above the league average, top 10 in the league when it comes to running motion presnap." (Kyle Yeomans, 43:32)

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5. QB Vision: Panthers Defensive Breakdown

[21:54–35:52]

• Isaiah Standback offers an in-depth film breakdown of Carolina's defense:
  • Carolina typically runs a 3-4 front (three linemen, two OLBs, two ILBs) that sometimes looks like a five-man front.
  • A’Shawn Robinson (#94) is the anchor, but not viewed as a real threat. The "game wrecker" is Derrick Brown (#95); Nick Scourton (#11) and Patrick Jones (#91) are high-motor, athletic OLBs/DEs.
  • Potential Weakness: Their OLBs are aggressive but can be outmaneuvered; Panthers play mostly zone (quarters, cover 2, cover 3), rarely blitz, and their coverages are easy to read.
  • "Dak should have a day as long as they get it blocked up front… There's no physicality at the line of scrimmage by their corners." (Isaiah Standback, 27:15)
• Isaiah recommends an attack strategy:
  • Run power, not lateral (side-to-side) due to the Panthers’ OLB speed.
  • Jake Ferguson (TE) is poised for a breakout game given open zones—"If there is ever a day for Fergie to have 100 yards, this is it." (Isaiah Standback, 34:51)
  • Attention to Derrick Brown is crucial to avoid interior disruption.

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6. Cowboys Matchup Keys vs Panthers

• The consensus is that the Cowboys offensive line is well-prepared, given their success against top-tier DTs like Quinnen Williams.
  • "If you can stop Quinnen Williams... everybody else is kind of downhill from there." (Patrick Walker, 29:29)
• The Panthers’ secondary relies heavily on JC Horn, but there's a drop-off beyond him.
• Defensive vulnerabilities: lack of physicality at the line, open zones in coverage, overaggressive OLB play.
• Offensive plan: Attack downhill with Javonte Williams, exploit the soft zone for Ferguson and receivers, use motion and misdirection.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (With Timestamps)

• Isaiah Standback, on backup players:
  "I hate referring to guys as... backups. These are NFL players being granted with an opportunity. Some of these guys just needed an opportunity." [16:00]

• Patrick Walker, Dak & O-line symbiosis:
  "For the high IQ football mind, you also understand that the quarterback has to protect his offensive line... Dak Prescott is doing all of those things." [13:52]

• Brian Schottenheimer, on offense identity:
  "If your system’s not flexible enough to do what your players do well, then you’re probably in the wrong business... I'm a big believer in cut splits... shifts and motions to distort things." [11:43]

• Chris Beam, on offensive coaching staff:
  "It's not just a bunch of guys… Connor Riley, Clayton Adams... It is impressive." [39:32]

• Kyle Yeomans, on increased offensive motion:
  "Dallas is running 68% motion… a 10% increase from last year." [43:32]

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Segment Timestamps

• Show format/news & notes: [00:44–07:10]
• Offensive line & Dak discussion: [07:29–15:53]
• Backups, coaching, team depth: [15:53–19:10]
• QB Vision: Panthers D full breakdown: [21:54–35:52]
• Coaching/Staff discussion: [38:12–43:11]
• Motion/modern offense stats: [43:02–46:45]

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Tone & Atmosphere

• Upbeat, humorous, and slightly irreverent ("dictatorship" joke about the show’s decision structure, running Taylor Swift and pop culture quips).
• Knowledgeable but accessible, using analogies ("bull in a coffee shop") and breaking down football jargon for both insider and casual fans.

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Summary Conclusion

This episode provides a comprehensive, fan-friendly breakdown of how Dallas’s offense has achieved league-leading status heading into their Panthers matchup—emphasizing coaching innovation, Dak Prescott’s form, offensive line excellence, and tactical modernizations like heavy motion. The QB Vision segment arms listeners with specifics on Carolina’s defensive weaknesses and how the Cowboys can exploit them. The episode underlines that Dallas’s success is less about flashy skill stars and more about the collective improvement of scheme, execution, and depth—a message promptly delivered with a combination of detailed football IQ and lively banter.

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Next Episode Preview:
Tomorrow’s episode will shift to the Cowboys’ defensive matchup (with Patrick’s “Lab Coat” analysis on Thursday).

Transcript

[Isaiah Standback]

Foreign.

[Announcer]

The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys.com and the Dallas Cowboys football club.

[Kyle Yeomans]

How about them Cowboys?

[Patrick Walker]

Go Cowboys.

[Announcer]

This is Talking Cowboys streaming live from the Dallas Cowboys world headquarters at the.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Star in Frisco CD lan.

[Commercial Voice]

Touchdown.

[Patrick Walker]

It's on. Jake Ferguson. Touchdown. Keeps it and he bangs it in for the touchdown.

[Announcer]

And now your hosts, Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez and Kyle Yeomans.

[Josh Rodriguez]

It's a wonderful Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys presented by Black Rifle coffee company live from the Star in Frisco, Texas.

[Isaiah Standback]

In the SWBC studios.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Welcome in everybody. We've got the whole cast and crew.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Ready for you to rock today with Patrick no see Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah, stand back. Chris Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yeoman. So glad you're with us. We have some show news for you. We do right off at the jump at the episode.

[Isaiah Standback]

We don't need your vote.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I was actually going to open it up for a vote yesterday but we just ran out of time so we took a vote on the show.

[Chris Beam]

Kyle will be leaving the show. Really sorry to hear that, bro.

[Isaiah Standback]

Kyle's acting like our government right now.

[Patrick Walker]

Oh, the LeBron decision.

[Chris Beam]

He's leaving.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Second decision.

[Chris Beam]

He's headed to Mick shots.

[Isaiah Standback]

Wow.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Mickey would hate that.

[Chris Beam]

I think anybody.

[Patrick Walker]

Mickey's like, why a hell of a get though.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah, thanks, man.

[Chris Beam]

They'd be so lucky.

[Kyle Yeomans]

It's been so good.

[Patrick Walker]

Like getting MJ in his prom.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah, I'm sure.

[Isaiah Standback]

There it is.

[Kyle Yeomans]

That's what. That's what the sound would be. No, I'm not leaving the show. What we are doing though is we are flipping our previews.

[Isaiah Standback]

Flip it.

[Kyle Yeomans]

So normally we preview the Dallas defense. The Dallas defense versus their upcoming or upcoming opponent on offense on Wednesdays. We're not doing that anymore. We're going to flip. We're going to flip it because we want Patrick's lab coat to get a little bit more shine on Thursday and it also coincides with his science lab that's released every week on Thursday on Dallas Cowboys dot com.

[Isaiah Standback]

Yeah.

[Kyle Yeomans]

So we're just going to push the defensive preview to Thursday and now the offensive preview.

[Patrick Walker]

But it also works as we got QB vision Wednesday.

[Isaiah Standback]

Yes.

[Patrick Walker]

Thursday on Friday on Friday.

[Kyle Yeomans]

There you go.

[Patrick Walker]

Bada bang, bada boom, bada.

[Kyle Yeomans]

So that's on Friday. Today we have some QB vision coming up.

[Patrick Walker]

Yeah.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Are you ready for this?

[Patrick Walker]

Are you ready K, Triple H.

[Kyle Yeomans]

But yeah, that's all the show news is. So from now on we will preview the Dallas off on Wednesday and we.

[Isaiah Standback]

Were preview their vote.

[Additional Commercial Voice]

Kyle.

[Kyle Yeomans]

The Dallas Defense on Thursday. Sorry, it's a dictatorship.

[Isaiah Standback]

Yeah, getting used to that.

[Patrick Walker]

I was hoping you didn't take that. But you did.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Wow.

[Isaiah Standback]

The hell with what the courts say.

[Patrick Walker]

But you did.

[Isaiah Standback]

People on the courts, what you did, it's for the people. Stop it.

[Chris Beam]

We do it for you.

[Kyle Yeomans]

All right, we're going into news and notes, Patrick. Not a ton of news and notes.

[Patrick Walker]

No, we do have one though. We do have one little bit of a reunion. Cowboys reunited. Can't talk to you. They reunited with Julius Wood.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Oh, okay.

[Patrick Walker]

So former undrafted safety from last year, 2024.

[Chris Beam]

He's a hitter.

[Patrick Walker]

He is a hitter and he made. He made some waves in training camp last year. He was a roster casualty and final cut downs, they waved him. He went over to the Titans who claimed him successfully from waivers. But he's back. He's back on the Cowboys practice squad. Cowboys obviously need some safe safety, depth and insurance with Malik Hooker on ir. So welcome back into the fold. Julius Wood, hard hitting safety out of East Carolina, former former collegiate teammate of one Savone Revel.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Just for a little bit, you just think it was like one year that they overlapped.

[Isaiah Standback]

One year works. He's had some good showings here in training camp and preseason. So over the last last year or so.

[Chris Beam]

Preseason for sure.

[Isaiah Standback]

Yeah, for sure.

[Patrick Walker]

Yeah.

[Isaiah Standback]

He's played well for Dallas.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah. So that's the one. Big news and note. Cowboys were off yesterday.

[Patrick Walker]

Yeah. Back at practice today. So we're waiting to see the injury update on several guys. Tyler Booker, Tyler Guyton, Tyler Smith, obviously C.D. lamb, Kevante Turpin, so forth and so on.

[Isaiah Standback]

So we don't have Tyler beat us. You've really been confusing for more than one reason.

[Kyle Yeomans]

So many Tyler's that have been a.

[Isaiah Standback]

I love you 4 Tyler sweep right there.

[Chris Beam]

Yeah.

[Patrick Walker]

So yeah, we'll see today. First injury report comes out. This is going to be the first real look at who has a good chance of playing and taking the field against the Carolina Panthers and who's trending in the wrong direction as far as not taking the flight to. To Charlotte. So yeah, keep an eye on that. That'll drop around 3ish this afternoon Central time. Keep an eye on the Twitters. Do you.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Do you feel like the signing of Julius would maybe coincides with the Donovan Wilson thought process? Do they maybe. Is that something we can read the tea leaves?

[Patrick Walker]

I would say yeah.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah. Because already missing Booker, he's on ir. He's got three games left to be on IR minimum.

[Patrick Walker]

Yeah. And then we still don't know we'd have no further insight on the Donovan Wilson situation, which is what we will hopefully get today. If Donna was a DNP this afternoon or today's practice, your answer is yes. But even before then, I'm going to say there's a lean toward that. I mean, you got some. You got banged up safety. So, yeah. As far as who you would throw out there initially, obviously it's going to be Marquis Bell, but you need depth behind one. Yay. And Marquis Bell, you have Elijah Clark, who was signed to the active roster last weekend. So that's good stuff. But you need more than that if you're going to be down two starting safeties. So Julius Wood, hard hitting guy.

[Isaiah Standback]

And.

[Patrick Walker]

And we talk about Donald. What does Donald do? Well, downhill, hard hitter. Julius Wood, hard hill, down hitter, hard.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Hill, down hitter, hard. How did you die?

[Chris Beam]

Hard hitter, downhill.

[Patrick Walker]

How did that happen?

[Chris Beam]

Downhill, hard hitter.

[Isaiah Standback]

I don't know.

[Patrick Walker]

But you know what's really crazy?

[Kyle Yeomans]

That was I impressed myself.

[Patrick Walker]

Say it.

[Isaiah Standback]

And it sounded good. It sounded good.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Worked.

[Isaiah Standback]

That's right. I did it.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I said that on purpose.

[Patrick Walker]

I said it to purpose.

[Chris Beam]

Now time will tell, though. We really need that injury report stat. Go tell him.

[Kyle Yeomans]

It's because you were. You were typing up that. It's cuz last night you were typing up Flike Morio. That's why.

[Patrick Walker]

That's what it was.

[Chris Beam]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Kyle Yeomans]

That was fun to watch.

[Chris Beam]

Cooked up a little bit last night.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah. I think Patrick might be under investigation very soon.

[Patrick Walker]

Yeah, that escalated quickly.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah.

[Patrick Walker]

You know, I think you. I think you killed a guy with a trident. Should probably lay low for a few days.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Maybe just chill out.

[Patrick Walker]

Chill out. But no, you know. You know.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah.

[Patrick Walker]

Clowns are going to clown.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah.

[Patrick Walker]

So anyway.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Anyway, so Julius Wood, the. The person that Taylor Swift wrote a song about recently, that is, who's on the roster.

[Chris Beam]

Yeah.

[Patrick Walker]

Julius Wood.

[Chris Beam]

Exactly.

[Patrick Walker]

Wood.

[Kyle Yeomans]

All right. It is an offensive review day.

[Patrick Walker]

Shameless. Tay Tay plug.

[Isaiah Standback]

Proud of you, sir.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Thank you, sir.

[Patrick Walker]

That was. That was smooth.

[Isaiah Standback]

Appreciate rubbing off on him.

[Patrick Walker]

That was smooth.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah, it's not. It's super smooth. If you think. If you actually listen to the lyrics of that, just type it up and look at it.

[Patrick Walker]

It's wild.

[Chris Beam]

Just a Lorena for.

[Isaiah Standback]

Yep.

[Chris Beam]

Teaching Kyle about.

[Kyle Yeomans]

That's exactly what it was.

[Isaiah Standback]

Thank you.

[Kyle Yeomans]

All right, switching offensive preview to Wednesday. I want to talk about this offense because right now, statistically in the NFL. Isaiah, stand back. The Dallas Cowboys have the number one total offense.

[Isaiah Standback]

You don't want to say the other part of that, do You.

[Kyle Yeomans]

They have the number one most allowed yards on defense, but they have the number one total offense. We'll talk about that defense tomorrow. We'll talk about what's happening against the Panthers this week. But when you look at the success that has happened on offense and the number of guys that have stepped up on that side of the football, where do you feel like it starts?

[Isaiah Standback]

Starts with office line.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Really?

[Isaiah Standback]

Yep. Offensive line allows for your quarterback to pass off as a line, allows for your ground game to get going. It's office line. I mean, we could talk about all the skill position players, all the guys who make contributions there, but ultimately the big fellows who never get subbed out are the ones that are taking care of business and allowing for your entire offense to be collaborative. Allow for your office of coordinator to feel comfortable and confident to call plays. They control the line of scrimmage. So whether they're pass blocking or whether they're moving mountains up front, they're doing a heck of a job. Dak has the confidence to sit back in the pocket. He's obviously had to work in the pocket to create some passing lanes at times, but that's every quarterback, so I think he's done a heck of a job. The offensive line has allowed for him to do that. Obviously, Jaunte Williams is having one heck of a year. It's not like he's getting hit in the backfield and having to create. He's getting to the line of scrimmage, through the line of scrimmage to the second level, then he's getting hit. Well, then he's running through it.

[Kyle Yeomans]

And there's a lot of times yards after contact, because that's a big stat in the NFL. Even with yards after contact, you have to be favorable position in order to initiate contact and then continue through that.

[Isaiah Standback]

Initial contact is not happening behind the line. Behind the line of scrimmage. Yeah. So if it's not happening behind the line of scrimmage and it's happening at the second level of the defense now you're three to four yards across the line of scrimmage by the time you get hit. That's where the contact's happening. That's where it's expected to happen based upon your blocking scheme. And that's all happening because of the old line. So shout out to them.

[Chris Beam]

Good thing that they're all healthy, too.

[Isaiah Standback]

Yeah.

[Chris Beam]

Being facetious. Yeah, they're not. But I think a large part, and due to that, and it's a team sport, you're talking about all these phases of the offense clicking together as one. You don't have the number one offense in the NFL without Dak Prescott.

[Isaiah Standback]

Right.

[Chris Beam]

We're talking about him yesterday. He's on a different level than he's ever been in his entire career. It's unfortunate that you have the defense not playing up to that same standard there. Like Kyle just said, they're number one in yards allowed. If you don't have Dak Prescott, this is not the number one offense in the NFL. And I don't think people realize that enough or give him enough credit because you just see it across the board. I mean, for people that don't know ball, people that don't follow the Cowboys, people are just making memes of Dak Prescott. I mean, they're talking about Arch Manning, you know, with the Dak Prescott's face in a, you know, UT uniform.

[Patrick Walker]

It's same people who were saying tank for Arch.

[Chris Beam]

Exactly.

[Patrick Walker]

Oh, okay.

[Chris Beam]

Exactly. So really, credit where credit is due. Dak Prescott is playing the best football of his career, and the offense is clicking on all cylinders because of what Dak Prescott is doing in conjunction with what Shotty's helping him do.

[Isaiah Standback]

We.

[Chris Beam]

And it goes back to the original question that you asked. Someone posted it yesterday and I forgot to send it to you. I'm sure you saw it. Someone posted your question to Shoddy from the first press conference.

[Isaiah Standback]

Yes.

[Patrick Walker]

That was boss Cowboy sports.

[Chris Beam]

Boss sports shouts to him. And it's indicative of what we're seeing now with how the offense is running and what Shoddy was, how he answered your question about how you can modernize a Cowboys offense for Dak Prescott and for the guys that we have here, CD Lamb included. It is coming to fruition. Finally. You're seeing it now. I mean, it started from, you know, week one. They drove down the field three times in a row and scored. That to me, is all you need to know. And that's decorating.

[Patrick Walker]

Shoddy didn't lie to me, is what you're saying.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Can you take us through that? Just because it was so long ago? Can you remind us what the question was?

[Chris Beam]

It feels like years ago.

[Kyle Yeomans]

It does. It feels like forever ago. And then what his response was that.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Led to where we are.

[Patrick Walker]

I do one better. Oh, let's see if beaming. Let's see if this mic picks up.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Oh, we're gonna play it.

[Patrick Walker]

As far as freshening things up, looking forward.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Oh, you gotta. You gotta mute us perspective on the.

[Patrick Walker]

YouTube side, key in on the offense. Generally speaking, how do you look to move forward as far as modernizing the offense. Talk about solving for the quarterback. What does that look like under Eric?

[Brian Schottenheimer]

Yeah. Again, I go back to my days with Pete. I think if you go back and you look at some of the things we did in Seattle, obviously the starting point for me would be things that our players do well. You're always going to start with that. If your system's not flexible enough to do what your players do well, then you're probably in the wrong business. But I'm a big believer in cut splits. I'm a big believer in shifts and motions to distort things. We're going to do a great job of marrying our runs and our passes and make those look the same. I'm proud to say that two different times in my career as a coordinator, we led the league in rushing. They go hand in hand. The running game and the action passing game go hand in hand. But I would say there's a. There's a tempo element that we're excited to mix in that our players have all shown an affinity for. And. And let me expand on that a little bit.

[Kyle Yeomans]

We'll just.

[Patrick Walker]

We'll just stop it right there and just say that every single thing he said in that. In that particular portion, he has brought to fruition.

[Chris Beam]

And if you're looking at how the offense has looked for the past three seasons or four seasons under Mike McCarthy and listening to what he's saying here, I mean, he's proving his point.

[Patrick Walker]

He is.

[Chris Beam]

And we talked about it yesterday. We're talking about competing every day being the mantra of the season. And you're seeing guys step up that are depth players, step into those starting roles due to injury or due to whatever it is and succeed because they're competing every single day. I mean, it's granted, you know, it's where. What's the record now? We're 500, right?

[Patrick Walker]

Technically, yeah.

[Chris Beam]

And technically, technically, in all technicality, I don't know that tie, that tie, but it's still a tie with all those expectations in mind.

[Kyle Yeomans]

You have more wins than you have losses.

[Isaiah Standback]

Isaiah Ty throws that whole analogy out the window. It definitely does. It throws it out the window.

[Patrick Walker]

We hate ties.

[Isaiah Standback]

The tie can eliminate you from playoffs. Can it?

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yes.

[Isaiah Standback]

Okay. Just like lost.

[Kyle Yeomans]

EQ in.

[Isaiah Standback]

Yeah, but you got two potential negatives.

[Patrick Walker]

That's why we against you hate ties. But I mean, going back to a couple of points that you guys make because those points marry so well, the play of the offensive line, both the starters and the backups, when the backups were tasked with coming in due to injury with the play of Dak Prescott. I don't think enough people understand how important it is for, for one hand to wash the other. What I mean by that is the offensive line has to protect his quarterback. That much everybody knows. That's just easy math for even the casual football mind, okay? But for the high IQ football mind, you also understand that the quarterback has to protect his offensive line. And by doing that or in doing that with pocket presence and you know, bailing when you need to bail, taking checkdowns when you need to take check downs because, or just speeding up your clock because you recognize that this pressure is about to get here sooner than than you would normally have intended. Dak Prescott is doing all of those things. All of those things. Go back and look at some of these games where, you know, as we're rightfully giving credit to some, to these backups as they're playing, there were a few times where the pressure got here or it got there and that he steps up and he moves and he moves and he buys himself time. He either buys enough time to get the check down or get the ball out deep left or right, or he bails and he gets you that first down and moves the chain with his legs. So as much as the offensive line deserves credit both to start and the backups for doing what Connor Riley and Clayton Adams and Brian Schottenheimer has coached him up to do, which I can't stress enough, this coaching staff on the offensive side of the ball, Derek Foster, they are, oh my God, genius level hires at this point in, in Schottenheimer's career. It goes back to what both Isaiah and Josh are saying. This trench warfare that the Cowboys are winning on the offensive side of the ball allows for the skill players to, to take off, allows for you to have those chunk plays in a number one offense. So credit to everybody because it takes it. It's going cliche, but it takes a team.

[Isaiah Standback]

I want to throw something out there or really kind of just give people some insight.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Throw it out.

[Isaiah Standback]

Oftentimes people think of backups as lesser than. Of course, there's not a lot of spots in this NFL, this NFL professional league that we're in. With that being said, backups are usually backups for a number of reasons. Usually it's related to talent level. At that point in time. At this point in time, you're better than that guy. Okay? Other times it's, we have more invested in that individual than we have invested in you. The other thing that people need to Take into consideration is everybody that is on the NFL roster is capable. Okay? So though I might be down on the depth, I am very much so capable. You're in the league now. What is the disparity between myself and that starter? And why is there a disparity? Are they better because God just blessed them with more abilities? Are they better because they've had more reps against people of their caliber at that point in time, and I just haven't. So when you start talking about backups and everybody's so amazed that the backups are doing so well, how about the fact that they might just not have had the opportunities to go against that level of competition to prove that they can play at the same level as starters? And I really want that. I really want people to take that. That perspective, because I hate referring to guys as. Okay, just backups. Like, no, these are NFL players that are being granted with an opportunity. And how many times have we seen superstars now? Hall of Famers.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah.

[Isaiah Standback]

Because they were buried on the depth chart and somebody may have gotten injured and they represented the opportunity, and voila. Magic, right? Now, were they lacking ability or were they lacking opportunity? So as we talk about this, we have to be very careful about how we. How we title. Right. And how we kind of. What's the word I'm looking for? Label. How we. How do we. How do we label these players that are stepping into the fold? Because some of these guys just needed an opportunity. We can't label them as back as we have to label them as guys that are down on the depth chart, that majors have got their big freaking opportunity, and all of a sudden they might see themselves as a starter either here, if not here, as their contract expires again, they could be started somewhere else.

[Patrick Walker]

So you're saying you can't just broad stroke the label like that?

[Isaiah Standback]

No.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah.

[Patrick Walker]

Okay. Well, Don needs to understand that because apparently Don thinks all Hispanics come from one country. Continue the.

[Kyle Yeomans]

The big thing here, Don.

[Isaiah Standback]

Huh?

[Kyle Yeomans]

You're talking about the way. You're talking about the way that players are utilized and how they are utilized in their specific roles. That's exactly what Shady was talking about in that opening press conference. I want to keep this conversation going in the third segment. I want to come back, circle back to it, because I've got an opportunity here to look at some of the motion tendencies. And he talked about that a lot, too.

[Chris Beam]

He did.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I want to talk about that in the third segment. But. But before then, it's time for a little QB vision. We're gonna have that right on the other side of the break. More talking cowboys right after this.

[Patrick Walker]

That was creepy.

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[Patrick Walker]

How's it going? You see that Cowboys game?

[Isaiah Standback]

Oh, I watched.

[Patrick Walker]

Been seeing some good things. Totally. They have some talent.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yup.

[Isaiah Standback]

Some great talents.

[Patrick Walker]

And they got some fights. Hoping this is the year. Me too. Oh, I'm Cody, by the way.

[Isaiah Standback]

I'm Travis.

[Patrick Walker]

Nice to meet you, Travis. Go Cowboys. Go Cowboys.

[Isaiah Standback]

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[Isaiah Standback]

I'm home. Hey, Mom. Before you ask, I've done my homework and the dishwasher's unloaded.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Nice.

[Patrick Walker]

Hey, can you.

[Isaiah Standback]

Hey, hon.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yes? I've got the finale ready to play.

[Isaiah Standback]

Here's your wine.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Wow.

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[Kyle Yeomans]

Back here on Talking Cowboys. This segment of the show is brought to you by Invisalign, the official smile of the Dallas. Dallas Cowboys. That was the sound of Isaiah Stambax. Pearly whites.

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[Kyle Yeomans]

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[Isaiah Standback]

That's a dodgeball. What was a girl's name from Dodgeball? Oh, man.

[Kyle Yeomans]

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[Isaiah Standback]

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[Kyle Yeomans]

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It's time for QB Vision with Isaiah.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Stand back.

[Isaiah Standback]

All right, guys, here we go.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Week six.

[Isaiah Standback]

Let's talk about it, man.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Freaks me out every time.

[Patrick Walker]

We love it.

[Isaiah Standback]

Listen, I don't, I don't, I don't. I respect everybody in this NFL. Oftentimes those in the chat and on the, on the, the web, they tend to get after me because Isaiah shows every team too much respect. Everybody's a threat.

[Chris Beam]

Yeah.

[Isaiah Standback]

They are the professionals, so definitely are. So you might want to respect them. Even though you might be better than some teams, you have to still prove it week in and week out.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I can tell you the other side. The other guys across the hallway that are preparing for next week aren't. Aren't saying anything less.

[Patrick Walker]

No, it's.

[Kyle Yeomans]

If anything, it's probably more.

[Isaiah Standback]

It's football. It's a physical game. How does it happen?

[Patrick Walker]

So Chicago.

[Isaiah Standback]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So let's talk about these Panthers. Okay, the Panthers, where are they? 2 and 3. Doesn't really matter. These guys can play competitive if you allow them to. Yeah. Their scheme that they run defensively is a three. Four typically is what they run. Right. They run three down linemen, big nose tackle, two defensive ends. They have two overhangs with linebackers and two linebackers at the second level. So oftentimes it'll look like a five man front. How does that potentially help you and how can that be a disadvantage for you? Well, help wise, you can run the ball versus a 3, 5A versus a 3, 4. If you can hold the point of the, the tip of the spear, which is the nose guard. Right. That's where things start for them. Their nose guard is number 94A. Sean Robinson. Played it for the Jet, played for the Giants previously. He's not. I'm not amazed by him. He's. He's a big fella. I almost made a comparison that would not have been good for us. But he's a. He's a big fella that I'm not threatened by. He's literally like an anchor. Like you're in the middle of the ocean. You throw the anchor in there. He just wants to hold that spot. Right. Not get moved off the point. I believe that their most dominant defensive lineman is Derrick Brown. Tell him 95. 95 star. He's a, he's a game record. Right. I believe that they have three game records at the first and second level. Number 95 and Derrick Brown, number 11. And Nick Scorton, he plays outside linebacker, aka stand up defensive end. And then also number 91, Patrick Jones, who is also an outside linebacker, aka stand up defensive end. Right. So when you think about the three, four outside linebackers, think about old school New England Adelias Thomas, you know, just the, just the big dudes that just stand up and they can, they're big guys. They're not full on pass rushers, but they're not great cover guys either. They're kind of tweeners. You don't want their hand in the ground. So that's pretty much what they are. But you can run the ball versus the three, four. I think you can get the. Their big fellow 94, Asian Robinson, you can get him moved off the point. That's going to be a lot of responsibility on Mr. Brock. So yeah, typically you have the nose guard covering up your center. You'll have the. Usually there are three techniques. Sometimes they'll get out to five techniques, which means that they're on the outside shade of your guards. You, if you can kick those quote unquote defensive ends out, which are really your, you know, two of your D linemen. It's weird to start talking about names of titles of their position. Their DNS are D tackles really, which is in titles. If you can kick them out with your guards and you can hold the point, all of a sudden now your, your guards can get up to the second level on their linebackers. And if you could do that, then I foresee Javante Williams having one heck of a day. He's already had one heck of a year. I think that he'll have one heck of a day if they choose to remain in this 3, 4 defense. But you better find 95.

[Chris Beam]

Absolutely.

[Isaiah Standback]

He will, he will. He will mess up your day. That's on the front. Okay, 11 and 91, these are athletic outside linebackers slash DNS that they play in coverage a lot of times because in their 3, 4, they often play cover 4, cover 2, they'll drop them out in cover 3 sometimes. So a lot of times these guys are kind of fish out of water in space. Imagine Micah Parsons trying to play coverage. It's not what you want, right? You much rather him get after the quarterback. You played him at linebacker. There's a reason why he changed back to a dn. Yeah, he just didn't do well at that level. That's how I see these guys.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Just for Floyd in the chat, can you explain What a cover 2 versus a cover 3 looks like? Just because he doesn't. He doesn't.

[Isaiah Standback]

Got you. Yeah. So cover two. Two high safeties, two corners.

[Chris Beam]

Football. There's a cylindrical ball.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I'm just kidding. Keep going.

[Isaiah Standback]

All right. Yeah. So these guys, can they get out in that space and coverage when that's their responsibility and they don't do well. What 11 and 91 do well is they. They are high effort guys and they're very athletic. These are guys that. Not necessarily the most skilled with their hands or even. Even necessarily a bunch of moves in their bag, but they don't stop. They just. They just stay after the quarterback. Think Max. Think Max Crosby, right? Max Crosby is skilled and all those things, but he just continues to get after you or another gentleman. Van Ginkel. That's the person that I think about. That's just a high effort guy. Just a bull, right. In a freaking coffee shop.

[Josh Rodriguez]

You've always liked.

[Isaiah Standback]

I love his game. I love his game.

[Patrick Walker]

You.

[Kyle Yeomans]

You've liked it from when he was in Minnesota. That was the first time you really were honing in on it.

[Isaiah Standback]

He's still a beast.

[Kyle Yeomans]

He's still sideline.

[Isaiah Standback]

He's still a beast. I love players who just are relentless. Right? There's.

[Chris Beam]

You can't scheme against high motor guys.

[Isaiah Standback]

You can't scheme against that. Right. Because your initial plan, okay, stops them, but then what? Then. Then their. Then their will to win takes over. That's what 11 and 91 are. Outside of that, they have obviously a great. That I think is being just wasted away in J.C. horn and that's number eight on the outside. They don't. There's not a lot to talk about in terms of their corners because they're not playing a lot of man, they're playing so much zone, they're playing quarters, they're playing two, they're playing three. Occasionally, every so often, they'll sprinkle in a little bit of man, they don't blitz a lot. Everything that they do, coverage wise is so easily identifiable. Like Dak should have a day as long as they get. Get it blocked up, up front, which I don't foresee that being a problem. But Dax should have a day. He's going to have a lot of. He should have a great pocket because a lot of their rushes come from their outside. Linebackers pressing from the outside, which are. They're usually in 9 techniques or 11 techniques, however you want to look at it. So they're pushing up the field. The pocket is usually nice. He can step up, he could deliver the ball. There's no physicality at the line of scrimmage by their corners. This. Their. Their linebackers that are out in coverage are not jamming your inside receivers. So there' there to stop Ferguson from getting to the middle. If you guys have any questions in regards to that, go look at Darren Waller and what he did last week. He was running routes like he was routes on air. So I'm not. There's nothing defensively that there's like, oh my gosh, you better be aware of this. And I don't like that going into a game. But I'm just telling you what I see on the film. Handful of guys, 95. Get him figured out up front. He could, he could push your. Your offensive lineman back into the. The lap of Dak Dak Prescott and then 11 and 91. Those your high effort guys. And then if you decide to throw the ball JC Horn's way, he's not being forced to do a lot of quote unquote coverage. But he don't. Don't play with him. Right. Put some respect on his name.

[Patrick Walker]

I'll tell you what gives me confidence and again this is. Please don't take it as me saying that the Cowboys are definitely going to win this game. They should. But we'll get to that when we do predictions on Friday. Having seen what Brock Hoffman and TJ Bass could do against Quinn and Williams gives me a lot of confidence that they can handle that interior against whomever.

[Isaiah Standback]

Yeah, right.

[Patrick Walker]

Because if you can stop Quinn and Williams.

[Isaiah Standback]

Yeah.

[Patrick Walker]

Everybody else more or less is kind of downhill from there as far as talent goes. With the exception of like a Kayvon Thibodeau or Dexter Lawrence. I should say so. Yeah, there's that. So I feel like the comp. I feel like they'll get them blocked up real well. Yeah, I agree with Isaiah on that. And then from there you're asking a lot of a very capable JC Horn. But in that secondary that's. It's him and who and who.

[Isaiah Standback]

Yeah.

[Chris Beam]

So Mike Jackson is bad.

[Patrick Walker]

Yeah. They.

[Chris Beam]

He needs to look at the man in the mirror.

[Isaiah Standback]

Michael Jackson. He's no Thriller.

[Patrick Walker]

He's no Thriller, I'll tell you that.

[Chris Beam]

Like actually, yeah.

[Patrick Walker]

Billie Jean is not his lover. Listen, but seriously, I mean I, I expect that they'll probably travel JC Horn with George Pickens because if they don't, they don't. It makes it that much worse. They won't. My thing is that much worse.

[Chris Beam]

Derrick Brown, for all intents and purposes, that's their monster. Like I was saying before, I mean he's 95. He's like Kenny Clark with an extra gear for pass rush.

[Kyle Yeomans]

He's a top 10 pick out of Auburn whenever he was drafted. And still a young guy speculated that.

[Chris Beam]

We may have traded for him for the whole Micah situation. That may have been a possibility. But I'm saying Derek Brown is their dude. If you're able to stop him at the. At the front of the attack at the line and you're not able to have the pocket collapse in front of Dak Prescott, that's what I'm concerned about. I'm concerned about that interior rush and I'm concerned about those running lanes not being open at the A and b gaps. Number 11, Nick Skeleton. I like him. He's very athletic. He's very physical. But he's like a. Like you said, a bull in a china shop where he sees red. But he can be. He's a little too fast.

[Isaiah Standback]

He's aggressive.

[Chris Beam]

He's very aggressive and he'll bite. So if you're able to sort of get around him, I mean, he's. He's going to play straight ahead Beeline, and there's no finesse to it, really. He's just running and gunning. Asha Robinson is cleaning up because of what Derek Brown is able to do.

[Isaiah Standback]

And Patrick Jones, 91, he's 6, 4, 2, 64, and he moves like a linebacker. Like a true linebacker. Yeah, he's like, he's freaking athletic now. I mean, you get him going one direction, he's high effort, and you put a move on him, he puts his foot in the ground, he's going with you. Yeah.

[Chris Beam]

And I only saw him really, in the Dolphins game. Christian Roseboom, I thought he was like a.

[Isaiah Standback]

A.

[Chris Beam]

A really solid tackler. So you're not going to get past him a lot.

[Isaiah Standback]

Yeah, yeah, he's nice.

[Chris Beam]

And then the same for Trayvon Morig. Is it number seven?

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah. Morgue Morig. Mo Rig.

[Chris Beam]

Mow Rig.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Former tcu.

[Chris Beam]

Excellent run defender. Yes, excellent. He gets up in the box.

[Isaiah Standback]

He's there. Donovan Wilson. Yeah.

[Chris Beam]

Yes.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Plays downhill. He's. Yeah. Shoots the gap. He's quick.

[Isaiah Standback]

And they like. They like to run a dime, which is really weird. They like to run, but, like, they, They'll. They'll play three safeties often three safeties with two high safeties. So, like you talk about Morig, he. He wants to be. They want him in a box, so he'll be. He's a strong safety. They still have the strong safety behind them, but they want him in the box if.

[Chris Beam]

And if we're talking about. And Kyle prefaced this in our rundown, where it's like, if you're an opposing offense, how do you defend the Cowboys offense? For me, right now, it's if you're able to collapse the middle of the pocket and take away all of the middle of the field that Dak loves. He loves using Jake Ferguson in that scenario. If you're using guys like Mo Rig and Christian Rose.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Boom.

[Chris Beam]

To clear the middle up for them, not give it available up to Dak Prescott at all and collapse the pocket in front of Dak, that's gonna be a problem.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah. It's funny because when you look at the performances so far by Carolina, four of the five games have been pretty much the same. Where it's mid-20s, they've given up 24, 26, 27 points. And then they had just this one breakout game against Atlanta where they shut out the Falcons. I mean, it was 30 to nothing and just shut them down. I was looking at the box score.

[Chris Beam]

Bijan Robinson's pretty good, huh?

[Kyle Yeomans]

Bijan's great.

[Josh Rodriguez]

They've got weapons.

[Chris Beam]

They held him to 74 yards on the ground.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah, 74 yards. Then you look at Michael Pennix Jr. 18 for 36 passing and he had two picks thrown in that game. There was like a weird special teams like, muff punt situation in that game. But for the most part, Atlanta just couldn't get anything going in that game. When it all comes together, how does it come together for Carolina?

[Isaiah Standback]

The team trying to go lateral. You can't outrun their loud side linebackers.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Okay.

[Isaiah Standback]

Like I said.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Well, and that's what Bijan Robinson.

[Isaiah Standback]

I know best. He gets outside tackle box. Don't try it now with 11 and 11 and 91. Don't do it.

[Chris Beam]

So it's literally about being the most physical upfront.

[Isaiah Standback]

Absolutely. Go downhill, go down, get 95 moved off the point, go downhill, get on their linebackers. Like that's where you can. You can out physical them going straight ahead. Very much so. Like last week. Don't go sideways. I was gonna say go sideways.

[Kyle Yeomans]

That's bad.

[Isaiah Standback]

You're gonna have 2 or 6, 5, 265 running you down.

[Patrick Walker]

You know the beauty of Javonte Williams?

[Isaiah Standback]

Oh, he's juggernaut.

[Patrick Walker]

He can run down here.

[Isaiah Standback]

Juggernaut.

[Patrick Walker]

He can get in those A and B gaps. Hell, he. He accidentally ran over Nate Thomas.

[Chris Beam]

Yeah.

[Patrick Walker]

Friendly fire on that big left tackle is in the way too, to get that 66 yards. So, yeah, Javonte Will Williams, he's. I mean, he has the ability to. To play sideline to sideline, but he's a downhill. Hand me the ball and let me get. Let me get into these trenches type work. So going against, like you said, you can't outrun those guys. Sideline to sideline. Javonte Williams isn't going to try. He's going to come right at you.

[Chris Beam]

And if they're playing zone defense.

[Patrick Walker]

Yes, please. Literally about to do this.

[Isaiah Standback]

Like, if there is ever a day for Fergie to have 100 yards, this is it.

[Patrick Walker]

This would be the day.

[Isaiah Standback]

This is it. Because there's gaps in their defense based upon their scheme, and they don't jam the number two or number three offensive player coming out. So for Ferguson, if he's attached coming off the line of scrimmage, there's nobody there to jam him. The outside linebacker is outside of him because they want to contain everything. And the inside linebacker is on the inside in the box. So he literally has a free release to the second level. So there's nobody to stop him. There's nobody there just putting their hands on him. He's free. And again, if you have questions about that, go watch Waller. Waller is running around butt naked and they're just like, oh, I'm free. All right. Thank you.

[Chris Beam]

All day long, you know what that means, right? Tostitos Championship Plaza.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Hey, get burnt.

[Patrick Walker]

Feels like it's another opportunity for one Ryan Flournoy to have a big game.

[Kyle Yeomans]

If he has 100 yards this week, we may not be able to let you in. We may have to, like, deact. Deactivate your idea.

[Patrick Walker]

He ain't lying.

[Kyle Yeomans]

All right, when we come back, I want to continue that conversation from the first segment. The the play, calling the motion, utilizing your players in the right place at the right time. How much credit does Brian Schottenheimer deserve for how this thing is rolling on offense? When we come back with more talking cowboys.

[Isaiah Standback]

I'm home. Hey, mom, before you ask, I've done my homework and the dishwasher's unloaded.

[Patrick Walker]

Nice. Hey, can you.

[Isaiah Standback]

Hey, hon.

[Chris Beam]

Yes.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I've got the finale ready to play.

[Isaiah Standback]

Hey, here's your wine.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Wow.

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[Isaiah Standback]

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Being a shoulder to cry on?

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[Kyle Yeomans]

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To talking Cowboys back.

[Josh Rodriguez]

You're on Talking Cowboys with Patrick.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Noi Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah, stand back. Chris Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yman. So glad you're with us. Now say hi. There is hi. Oh yeah, there it is. Now whenever we talk about Brian Schenheimer, you talk about what is going on with this offense, the number one total offense in the NFL. How much credit does he deserve when it comes to this offense because of the motion that he talked about with Patrick and the utilization of players in specific roles. There's a lot of good things he's doing and it continues going into week five, Week six. We're past September football. You kind of know what you are. What do you think it is from the shot?

[Chris Beam]

Shotty deserves so much credit, obviously and he's standing by what he said and he was talking about how he had to bite his lip under Mike McCarthy. And you know, there were situations where he sort of wanted to do something different than Mike McCarthy wanted to do as the play caller. So now he's getting to do those opport. He has that opportunity. And the fact that he was here with Dak, with most of the offense being able to diagnose, like, all right, in this situation, that's not what I do, buddy. And you're seeing that more often. And Javante Williams is a big part of that. But I think, and we talked about it a lot after the. The. What was this last game, the jets game, where it's the staff around him, the staff that he chose around him. It's not just a bunch of guys. It's not like, oh, my buddies are going to come out.

[Patrick Walker]

Not his besties.

[Chris Beam]

No. Like Connor, Riley, Clayton Adams. I mean, it is really, really junior. It is impressive. It is impressive. And we talked about it after we started signing all these coaches. All of the shows that we had were like, guys, this staff is pretty good.

[Isaiah Standback]

Who said that?

[Chris Beam]

All of us here on this show.

[Isaiah Standback]

Talking Cowboys.

[Chris Beam]

Yes, talking Cowboys. Research the best Dallas Cowboys.

[Patrick Walker]

You know what that means?

[Isaiah Standback]

What's that?

[Patrick Walker]

We should all just go ahead and say it again.

[Isaiah Standback]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Kyle Yeomans]

I told you so now you're not. You don't have your sign up today.

[Patrick Walker]

No, I don't have my son. Yeah. Somebody stole my son.

[Isaiah Standback]

Let us see that on another show. Let us see that the sign will make a return.

[Patrick Walker]

I just need to.

[Chris Beam]

But literally, we've been telling you guys since they. We started this whole coaching hiring process.

[Kyle Yeomans]

And the coaching has been good. This team is still 2, 2 and 1. It's not implying that the Cowboys are going to win the super bowl because their coaching is facts. But you can all build on top of things like this, and that's what.

[Patrick Walker]

We'Ve seen so far. Yeah. And to answer your question, I believe that Brian Schottheimer deserves a ton of credit for what this offense has become. And that being said, he doesn't deserve 100% of the credit.

[Chris Beam]

Beamer has it.

[Patrick Walker]

Beamer. Oh, that's Beamer.

[Isaiah Standback]

Beamer.

[Patrick Walker]

Sign this. This take does not imply the Cowboys will win the Super Bowl. I need my sign back. It has been retrieved. Love you, Beamer.

[Isaiah Standback]

Love that he protected it. That's what it was.

[Patrick Walker]

I loved it.

[Kyle Yeomans]

He wanted to make sure nobody came in here and did take it for their show.

[Chris Beam]

We need to frame that.

[Josh Rodriguez]

No, absolutely.

[Isaiah Standback]

We definitely should.

[Chris Beam]

In front of the screen.

[Isaiah Standback]

George Teague is the protector of the sign. Beam is the protector of the sign.

[Chris Beam]

A signed stealer if you will. Belichick.

[Isaiah Standback]

Let's fight it out.

[Patrick Walker]

Huh huh?

[Isaiah Standback]

My my my.

[Patrick Walker]

But yeah. So Shotty deserves a ton of the credit but not 100% of the credit. And he, he readily. He threw me off sh would tell you anyone who would listen that most certainly when you look at Clayton Adams, Clayton Adams has a. A pretty sizable fingerprint on this offensive scheme every single week and coordinating and you know the scripted plays the first 15 against teams. And so again as much as we are praising shoddy and that's rightful and that's justifiable and we've said it before, this is not the first time you've heard talking Cowboys mentioned Clayton Adams and Connor Riley. But Clayton Adams just, just he does two things so exceptionally well with assisting with the offensive line teachings of Connor Riley because he's a former offensive line coach himself. But then also the ability to coordinate an entire offense by himself and you get the best of both worlds with him. So going back to what what you coordinate, you got the mushrooms, you're in the mushrooms. You got to go back to what Josh said. Really. When it comes to the on the offensive side of the ball, there was not a buddy system.

[Isaiah Standback]

Yeah, there was.

[Patrick Walker]

There was no Mike Nolan esque higher.

[Chris Beam]

Yeah, that's my boy.

[Patrick Walker]

Offensive side of the ball there was. Yeah, there was none of that. There was flat out who's available that's at the top of their position anywhere in the NFL or in the collegiate ranks.

[Chris Beam]

And from Schottenheimer's perspective, who are the guys out there that deserve that shot that have not gotten that shot?

[Patrick Walker]

Yeah, it's a guy like Conor Wright.

[Chris Beam]

Yeah. And just a derail us completely. Liam Cohen sounds like the little Martians from Toy Story when he says that. Duvall a stranger from the outside.

[Patrick Walker]

I'll never unhear that. Thanks.

[Kyle Yeomans]

That is pretty. That's pretty good.

[Patrick Walker]

Great.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Going back to the motion conversation, we've seen significant increases in motion from the Brian Schottenheimer scheme and play calling side of things you talk about last year, 58.8% from Dallas Motion pre snap or any type of motion for that matter. When it comes to the league trends, it continues to go up year after year every year. There's been more and more. This year the league trend and the league average is 63% of motion. Dallas is running 68% motion.

[Isaiah Standback]

Oh.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Which is a 10% increase from last year.

[Chris Beam]

That seems good.

[Kyle Yeomans]

10% increase. It's above the league average and they are top 10 in the league when it comes to running motion pre snap, we've been calling for it as a fan base. I feel like it's not even just talking, but it's the whole fan base. If the whole league is seeing more motion, why is there no more motion or not any any more motion? 58 was even up, I believe from 2023. I'll look up that number too. But the fact that there has been more creativity, there has been more motion, more eyewash. And he talked about how it is more for a defense to pick up. That shows that it's had some success already this year for sure.

[Isaiah Standback]

I mean, it's important. It's important in the ocean, all of our fan fam that understood exactly what we're putting down. Yeah, all those, all your backing training camp, you understand that it helps the offense, it helps dak, it helps the offensive line, it helps the receivers and the tight end. It helps absolutely everybody. It is a coverage indicator. You're looking for as much of an advantage every single snap as you can get. So when I run motion, my receivers are able to decipher exactly what are the safeties doing as I come across. There's a reason why when you see guys motion, they're not just looking where they're going, they're looking across the line of scrimmage to see, okay, is the safety moving? Is somebody following me? Okay, I thought it was A, B or C. Now it's going to be A or B. Right. It's a process of elimination. The quarterback is able to start deciphering what's going on. Right. The checks up front. As the center is sitting there with his hand on the ball, he's looking around. Obviously the line moves and now the linebackers move. Now whatever you had on your piece of paper before that, this is how you block this particular front. Now that's changed to another piece of paper because now these guys just moved a half inch over. And that changes absolutely everything for my blocking scheme. It helps. It's indicator. Why are you hard counting up front? Because it's just letting them know. What is letting your office alignment know. Hey, let's take a look at these guys. If these guys jump. Oh, you see that indicator right there? Yes. Blitz. Okay, let's go ahead. And what we get called blocking wise is affirmed or we need to change it. Right? And I. If I'm sitting up there and I'm Brock Hoffman. All right, but maybe we had a slide to the left. Boom, check, check, check, check. You know, I'm saying, right, right, right, Boom. That's it. That's all we need now. Everybody just changed their blocking assignments. So much of that happens that you don't see from TV. And as Kyle's laying it out, 68 is. Is very important because the defense not only has to figure out what the heck you're doing, but while they're trying to figure you out. Figure. Figure it out. They're telling you what they're doing.

[Patrick Walker]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Isaiah Standback]

Well.

[Kyle Yeomans]

And the amount of teams above you in the. The motion department, you could probably say these are pretty solid offenses. Would you like me to please run through?

[Patrick Walker]

By all means.

[Kyle Yeomans]

How about the 49ers? Pretty good. You know, Kyle Shanahan, Joe Brady and the Buffalo Bills. They're pretty solid. They didn't play well this past week, but they're solid. Jacksonville.

[Patrick Walker]

Who's surprised? Surprise.

[Kyle Yeomans]

The Rams. The Lions.

[Patrick Walker]

Yeah.

[Kyle Yeomans]

The Saints. Yeah. Kellen Moore.

[Patrick Walker]

Okay, Kellen.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Yeah. See you killing. And then some of the other teams that haven't had as much success but are still traditionally good offenses. The Ravens, the Dolphins, the Falcons and the Packers. Those are the teams above Dallas in terms of running motion. Pretty solid offenses across the.

[Patrick Walker]

Good company.

[Isaiah Standback]

It's a good group. It helps.

[Kyle Yeomans]

It definitely helps. Certainly does. All right, that's going to do.

[Isaiah Standback]

No, Kyle.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Talking Cowboys. You don't want to. You want to stay for another hour?

[Patrick Walker]

More QB Vision.

[Isaiah Standback]

Fanfams.

[Kyle Yeomans]

The fan fams.

[Isaiah Standback]

Fanfams.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Fan. Moly. I can't say that. Fan. Fan.

[Chris Beam]

Fanmoly.

[Isaiah Standback]

Family.

[Chris Beam]

We got a something different.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Fanily.

[Chris Beam]

No, I'll figure it out.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Talking Cowboys Nation fanfam. All right. For Patrick. Nosy Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah. Stand back. Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeomans.

[Josh Rodriguez]

We'll see you tomorrow.

[Kyle Yeomans]

Cowboys.

[Josh Rodriguez]

Defensive preview and some lab code from Patrick.

[Kyle Yeomans]

No. See Walker. We'll see you then.

[Isaiah Standback]

Duvall.

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