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In this episode of Talking Innovation, I sit down with cybersecurity veteran Jon Oltsik for a wide-ranging conversation about the rapid rise of AI in security operations, the future of automation, and how work itself is being reshaped. Jon shares his perspective on the AI SOC, exposure management, agentic AI, and why human judgment will remain critical even as more tasks become automated.

The discussion goes beyond cybersecurity into the broader impact of AI on business, healthcare, education, research, and everyday life. From smarter diagnostics and personalized learning to new career paths and simulation-based training, Jon and I explore how AI is already changing the way we work and learn... and what that means for the next generation of professionals.

They also dig into the risks: data centralization, surveillance, cyber warfare, and the widening gap between organizations that are ready for this shift and those that are not. It’s a thoughtful, grounded, and future-facing conversation about opportunity, disruption, and the importance of staying adaptable in a fast-moving world. I hope you enjoy it!

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Talking Innovation is a conversation about what comes next, hosted by Grant Asplund, a four-decade technology veteran who has spent his career arriving in categories before they had names. Each episode brings together the builders, founders, and operators shaping where technology is headed, with candid conversations about the ideas, bets, and hard-won lessons behind real innovation.

This isn't a show about hype cycles. It's about the people doing the work: how they see around corners, how they turn conviction into product, and what it actually takes to be early and right. From cybersecurity to AI to whatever category is forming next, Talking Innovation goes past the headlines to the thinking underneath.

New conversations on a regular cadence. Pull up a chair.