In this episode of Talking Tokens, Jacquelyn Melinek does an exclusive interview with Kevin Beardsley, the new head of institutional growth at Jito Foundation, in his first interview since announcing the role. Kevin, who previously held senior positions at Kraken and Ctrl Wallet, explains why institutions want Solana exposure but still struggle to actually use the technology, and how the 18-month education process behind every big institutional deal is invisible from the outside.

He walks through the process of liquid staking tokens solving the trade-off between earning yield and maintaining capital efficiency, why crypto-native companies are increasingly taking territory from traditional banks rather than the other way around, and what Jito's institutional integrations with Anchorage, FalconX, and others actually look like in practice. The conversation also covers why meme coins created real perception damage for institutional adoption, the branding problem crypto still hasn't fixed, and why AI-enabled wallets are the next thing worth watching.

TIMESTAMPS

(00:00) Intro
(00:33) How Xin defines tokenization
(02:46) GSR's origin story as a market maker for Ripple's XRP in 2013
(06:00) How options evolved from a backwater to a core crypto market
(09:12) The crypto gap GSR is trying to fill: building a full-service investment bank
(14:29) Acquisitions of Architech and Autonomous and his bear market M&A thesis
(17:27) Why the infrastructure bridge between traditional finance and onchain markets still needs work
(21:24) Who tokenization actually serves: the underbanked, 24/7 traders, and AI agents
(24:28) Will tokenized assets steal market share from bitcoin over time?
(27:57) Stablecoin proliferation post-Genius Act and the yield pass-through debate
(30:13) How GSR's role evolves as more real world assets get tokenized
(33:49) Tokenized equities: wrapped vs issuer-led approaches and what's winning
(41:17) Standard Chartered Ventures investment and what banking rails unlock for crypto
(49:46) What Xin is watching: AI and blockchain intersection
(52:07) Final advice: grit, patience, and keep building through the lows

ESSENTIALS

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