Secondaries used to be a niche corner of private markets — a way for institutions to quietly offload old fund positions. Today, they’re becoming a core feature of modern finance. In this conversation, Marc Rubinstein and Michael Batnick dig into the rapid rise of secondaries: why private assets are staying private for longer, how liquidity is being engineered rather than waited for, and what this shift means for valuations, incentives, and risk. We explore who wins, who loses, and whether secondaries are making private markets more efficient — or just more complex.

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