Joe Coleman, the legendary artist whose work digs into the darkest corners of the human psyche, joins us in the Crypt to discuss everything from painting serial killers like Carl Panzram, Albert Fish, and Ed Gein, to sharing the secrets of his controversial art. Join us as we delve into the contradictory beauty of the grotesque and the divine.

Joe takes us inside his Odditorium, a personal collection as eerie as his paintings, where he houses macabre artifacts like a painting by John Wayne Gacy, the actual letter Albert Fish sent to Grace Budd's mother, a lock of Charles Manson's hair, and a Christmas card from Ed Gein. These relics serve as a tangible connection, DNA, to the energy that Joe channels into his art.

We explore the paradoxes of life and death that permeate Joe's art, discuss his fascination with the redacted stories of the Bible, the corruption of the soul and flesh, and dive into his experiences selling art to icons like HR Giger, Johnny Depp, Leonardo DiCaprio, and Iggy Pop.

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00:00 – Intro

01:10 – Embracing the Dark Side of Humanity Through Paintings

10:31 – The Lighter Subjects of Joe's Paintings, Filming Rest in Pieces, Professor Momboozoo

16:51 – When Joe's Work Got Global Recognition, His First Art Gallery

29:10 – The Darker Subjects of Joe's Paintings: Carl Panzram, Mary Bell, Ed Gein, Albert Fish, Charles Manson, Swift Runner, Conducting Research and Meeting Harold Schechter

37:14 – Identifying with Serial Killers, Giving a Voice to Them. Within every man is the Christ and Anti-Christ. Channelling trauma and rage into art.

45:23 – The Common Theme of Joe's Paintings: Carl Panzram

52:31 – Life is a Prison in Which We Are Sentenced for The Crime of Being Born

59:22 – The Redacted Stories of The Bible, The 'Virgin' Mary's Secret, Jesus Christ's Childhood

01:15:06 – Selling Art to HR Giger, Johnny Depp, Iggy Pop, Leonardo DiCaprio

01:20:42 – TV is a God, Losing Faith in Evil and Death, A Look at Mortality, Performing an Autopsy in Budapest

01:33:15 – Quick Break, Doing Podcasts

01:35:32 – Making Art for Yourself and No One Else

01:37:48 – Death & Searching for a Soul

01:41:03 – The Odditorium

01:46:44 – How Joe Got The Real Letter Albert Fish Wrote

01:52:43 – The Mirror Side of Saint's Relics, Objects Housing the Soul

01:56:27 – "Outsider" Art

01:59:00 – Joe's Belief in the Paranormal & The Commodification of the Word

2:00:51 – Is it better to paint from the scar or the wound?

2:03:52 – A Doorway to Joe

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