Investigative journalist and author of CHAOS: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties, Tom O’Neill, joins us in the Crypt to unravel one of the darkest and most twisted chapters in American history–one that is still actively being covered up.

From uncovering secrets about Charles Manson’s connections to the Hollywood elite and exposing the top-secret human experiments of MKUltra, to dismantling the Helter Skelter narrative completely– Tom takes us deep into a web of lies, manipulation, and cover-ups that challenge everything we think we know about the Manson murders.

Join us as we reveal the hidden details and unanswered questions that continue to haunt one of America’s most infamous murder cases.

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00:00:00 – Intro

00:00:33 – Cold open, making a drink. Is Tom Into Horror? The First Omen, Salem's Lot Remake, and Rosemary's Baby Prequel. Miscategorizing Charles Manson, Shorty Shea Beheaded?

00:06:01 – Mind Control 101 - The CIA, MKUltra, and the Secret History of the 60's

00:22:33 – How and When Tom Got Into Helter Skelter, Meeting Vincent Bugliosi, Getting Into An Argument With Tom Cruise and Harrison Ford, and a Fight With Alec Baldwin

00:35:43 – Interviewing Vincent Bugliosi and Finding Holes in the Helter Skelter Narrative

00:46:22 – The First Bombshell Vincent Bugliosi Dropped In Tom's Reporting - Sharon Tate and Roman Polanski's "Sex Tape", Vincent Bugliosi's Dark Past - Abuse, The Milkman, and Planting Narcotics

01:00:02 – Terry Melcher, Dennis Wilson, 'The Golden Penetrators', Charles Manson's Connection to the Hollywood Elite, and Rudi Altobelli's Guilt

01:17:35 – Going Down The Rabbit Hole, Going to Dinner and Driving to the Cielo House with Rudi Altobelli

01:29:19 – Chasing Case Files, Mike McGann's Files Clash with Bugliosi's Testimony, Terry Melcher Bribes Tom With Doris Day's Dark Past, and Stars of the 60s Trying to Stay Relevant Through the Manson Story

01:41:50 – Manson's Federal Parole File and the "Anamolies" in His Parole Supervision by His Parole Officer Roger Smith, Spahn Ranch Raid

01:52:38 – David Smith and the Haight Ashbury Free Medical Clinic, LSD Studies on Rats in 1967 Emulated Exactly What Happened to the Manson Family - Innocent or scripted? Abigail Folger's Mother Was A Donator.

02:02:10 – Where did the "illiterate" and "lifetime criminal" Charles Manson learn how to brainwash his followers? Mind control operation gone wrong, or right? Intro to Jolly West

02:11:54 – Jolly West's Connection to Sidney Gottlieb, the head of the MKUltra Program - The Murder of a 3 Year Old Girl (The Jimmy Shaver Case)

02:19:46 – The Many Tendrills of Tom's Theory, Satanic Ritual Abuse Might Have Been CIA Fronts, Working on the Second Book, and Manson's Charisma. Wouldn't Manson Have Wanted People to Know This? When Tom Spoke With Manson.

02:27:06 – Manson Acts As A Repository of American Fears, Charles Manson In Pop Culture Then and Today - CHAOS and COINTELPRO, Truth is Stranger Than Fiction. Tom Gets Lost In The Crypt Studio Wall.

02:31:53 – What Tom Wished Bugliosi Got to See if He Were Alive Today, and How Life Changed After CHAOS - A Secret of Vincent Bugliosi's - He Was Just As Dangerous As Manson

02:37:42 – Tom's Dedication and Social Media

02:39:05 – Outro

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#16 - Tom O'Neill (Author of CHAOS: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties)