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Isaac Saul
Isaac Saul this is Tangle. Good morning, good afternoon and good evening and welcome to the Tangle Podcast. The place we get views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking and a little bit of my take. I'm your host Isaac Saul and on today's episode we're going to be talking about President Biden's health, allegations of a cover up, and basically all the news that we've learned in the last week or so. We got into this on the Sunday podcast. So if you are a Sunday podcast listener, you heard Camille, Ari and I talk quite a bit about this, but it's worth jumping back in I think today as a main topic for the podcast and the newsletter because A we got this diagnosis on Sunday evening and B we just keep getting information from these books that are coming out and these firsthand accounts of what happened during the Biden administration. So we're going to share that with you guys today. I'm going to send it to John for the main topic and I'll be back for my take.
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John Law
Thanks Isaac and welcome everybody. Hope you all had a refreshing and re energizing weekend. It's a new week with plenty of amazing opportunities ahead. Let's seize them and bring the best of ourselves to the world. Here are your quick hits for today. First up, the House budget committee voted 17 to 16 to advance President Trump's domestic policy bill after it initially failed to pass on Friday. Four Republicans voted present. Number two, Moody's Ratings downgraded the United States AAA credit rating, citing large fiscal deficits and rising interest costs. Number three Israel launched a significant new offensive in the Gaza Strip as new discussions on a ceasefire agreement began in Qatar. Through Qatari and US mediators, Hamas has reportedly offered to release nine hostages in exchange for a 60 day truce and the release of imprisoned Palestinians. Separately, Mohammed Sinwar, the leader of Hamas in Gaza, was reportedly killed in an Israeli airstrike, though Israel has not confirmed his death. 4. In an unsigned opinion, the Supreme Court blocked the Trump administration from deporting a group of men currently in immigration detention in Texas under the Alien Enemies Act. The ruling sent the case back to a lower court with instructions to determine the kind of procedures to which detainees are entitled to challenge the removals. Number five A Mexican Navy ship crashed into the Brooklyn Bridge, killing two people and injuring at least 19. New York City Mayor Eric Adams said the bridge was not damaged and the cause of the crash is under investigation. Number six, A bomb exploded outside a fertility clinic in Palm Springs, California, injuring four people and killing the suspected bomber. Number seven New Jersey Transit and the union representing the state's passenger train drivers were reached an agreement to end the union strike three days after it began. And number eight, at least 28 people were killed in severe weather incidents in the lower Midwest and South over the weekend. You're just joining us to recap here, former President Biden, we've learned, has been.
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Monday.com Representative
Diagnosed with prostate cancer, according to a statement released by his personal office.
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John Law
Just in the last 510 minutes here on Monday, the personal office of former President Joe Biden announced he had been diagnosed with prostate cancer that had metastasized to the bone, according to the statement. The cancer is a more aggressive form of the disease, but also appears to be hormone sensitive, which allows for effective management. Biden is now reviewing treatment options with his doctors. The diagnosis follows last Tuesday's announcement that doctors found a small nodule in Biden's prostate during a routine physical exam. Democrats and Republicans shared well wishes with Biden and his family. Former Vice President Kamala Harris, who replaced Biden on the Democratic ticket in the final month before the 2024 election. Posted on X Joe is a fighter and I know he will face this challenge with the same strength, resilience and optimism that have always defined his life and leadership. We are hopeful for a full and speedy recovery. President Donald Trump said on Truth Social that he was saddened to hear about Joe Biden's recent medical diagnosis. We extend our warmest and best wishes to Jill and the family and we wish Joe a fast and successful recovery. The former president's diagnosis comes on the heels of new reports on his fitness while in office. On Friday, Axios published an audio recording of Biden's October 23rd interviews with special Counsel Robert Hur, who who was investigating Biden's handling of classified documents. In the recording, the president has difficulty remembering notable dates and events, adding credence to Hur's assessment of Biden in his February 2024 report as having diminished faculties in advancing age. Hur did not recommend bringing charges against the president. Furthermore, several new and upcoming books have shared accounts from Biden administration officials suggesting that the White House had attempted to cover up his physical and cognitive challenges throughout his term. Among other anecdotes from his time in office, these books report that in the lead up to the June debate with then candidate Trump, high ranking Democrats urged the White House to cancel the debate due to concerns about Biden's fitness. Separately, Biden's advisers reportedly discussed the possibility that he would need to use a wheelchair if he won a second term. Biden has steadfastly denied that he was unfit to serve as president or that his staff had shielded his well being from the public. In a May 8 interview on the View, he said that he took responsibility for Trump's 2024 victory, but still believed that he would have won reelection if he had stayed in the race. I only dropped out because I didn't want to have a divided Democratic Party, biden said. Today we'll share reactions from the right and the left to Biden's health and the new reports about his time in office and then Isaac's.
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John Law
All right, first up, let's start with what the right is saying. Many on the right argue the media was complicit in covering up Biden's health in office. Some say Biden's declining fitness was evident in 2020. Others say the stories cannot be ignored just because Biden is no longer president. In Newsweek, Mark R. Weaver criticized a doddering president and a complicit media. CNN's Jake Tapper and others claim they missed the unmissable deterioration. But in multiple instances, when guests on Tapper's show pointed out President Joe Biden's frightening brain scrambles, Tapper pushed back with the passion of a paid partisan. His most audacious rebuff was that Biden's episodes could be dismissed due to a lifelong stutter, Weaver wrote. Tapper's stutter strawman is easily knocked over with just a few undeniable truths. Reading stage directions out loud repeatedly isn't stuttering. Mixing up the leaders of other countries isn't stuttering. Wandering around aimlessly over and over again isn't stuttering. Former Vice President Kamala Harris and a majority of the Biden cabinet could have, and clearly should have publicly proclaimed what they already knew. Biden didn't even know the names of his closest staff or top appointees, much less comprehend the nuance of world crises and national policy challenges. Had they exposed that, they would have appropriately triggered Section 4 of the 25th Amendment and Harris would have at least temporarily become acting president, weaver said. It's clear why Team Biden, as well as Tapper and other Democratic cheerleaders in the press corps didn't bring sunlight to this rot. They knew it would increase the likelihood of sending President Donald Trump back to the White House. In the Wall Street Journal, Barton Swaim argued Joe Biden was unfit in 2020. Did staffers hide the truth from the world? Did Democratic VIPs on Capitol Hill and elsewhere owe it to the country to say openly they couldn't support Mr. Biden's reelection effort? The answer to both these questions is yes, and some key figures in the administration had a duty when they realized the extent of the president's senility to resign in protest, swaim wrote. It wasn't too much to ask that two or three high profile Biden officials resign, explain to the public why they could no longer serve in good conscience and take sinecures at Princeton or Harvard. The argument in the press about when it became clear that Mr. Biden wasn't up to the job was it 2023 or as early as 2021 also makes me laugh. I witnessed Mr. Biden's frailty during the 2020 primary and wrote about it the first time I saw him in North Charleston, I thought he might be having a stroke or a heart attack. He looked fine, but when he spoke, we're more familiar with the gravelly whisper now than we were then. He was barely audible, swaim said. Four years later, none of this seemed revelatory or shocking, so accustomed had Americans become to Mr. Biden's slurred sentences, nonsense outbursts, falls and blank stares. Yet for four years, top Democrats gave themselves fully to the obvious lie that he was fine. In National Review, John Fund wrote about why the Biden health cover up really matters. A transcript of her's interview with Biden was published last year. But the Biden White House tenaciously fought against releasing the tapes, citing law enforcement concerns. We now know the real reason, the tapes reveal. A president who can't recall key facts has to frequently pause mid sentence and changes the subject quite often, flynn said. There was indeed a massive cover up inside the White House. Aides admitted to each other that Biden was becoming so physically frail that he might need to use a wheelchair in his second term. But the primary concern appeared to be that nothing be seen that would endanger his re election or their own hold on power. Will anyone draw any lessons from all this? I fear the answer is no. But there's a chance that something worthwhile will come out of the congressional hearings that House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer has just announced, fund wrote. At their best, congressional hearings can make use of depositions and subpoenas to force facts out into the open and give them prominence. Even Democrats who were so eager to use congressional hearings to investigate the January 6th riot at the US Capitol should realize that and cooperate. Alright, that is it for what the right is saying. Which brings us to what the left is saying. Many on the left say the former president bears the brunt of the blame for the ongoing fallout from the 2024 race. Some suggest the media's greater failure was in its coverage of Trump. Others say Democrats need to focus more on accounting for Biden's policy failures. In the Washington Post, David von Draley wrote, who is to blame for Biden's gamble to run for president? Only Biden. The questions gripping Washington lately, fueled by a new book from journalists Jake Tepper and Alex Thompson. Why was the former president Joe Biden allowed to run for reelection long after his sell by date and more salient? Because this is Washington where all things must be weaponized. Who is to blame? Vondraille wrote. First, the why Biden was allowed to keep running because there was no working mechanism to stop him. Everyone knew that Biden's age would be an issue, perhaps even the biggest issue of the campaign. It had been an issue in 2020, when his status as the oldest candidate nominated by a major party led him to promise vaguely to serve as a bridge to the next generation. Two outdated Washington myths now shape the blame game. First is the myth of strong party leadership, which is a hangover from the pre television era, vondrelli wrote. The second myth is the all knowing press corps. White House reporters are not clairvoyants. They know as much as they can see and as much as people tell them and know more. Ultimately, the questions of why and blame arrive at the same answer. It was Biden's doing and Biden's fault. And the price he and his circle will pay for their failed gamble against time is that the election of 2024 is his principal legacy. In the Guardian, Margaret Sullivan said yes, the media's Biden coverage was flawed, but its reporting on Trump was far worse. With a new book out about Joe Biden's failed reelection campaign, a media reckoning is in full swing. It goes something like mainstream journalism failed the voters. Reporters were complicit. They didn't tell us how much the elderly president had declined, sullivan wrote. And some of that is valid. No doubt there's plenty of blame to go around for Biden's ultimate loss and the horrors that it brought the whole world in the election of Donald Trump to a second term. When is the reckoning coming for the failures to cover Trump effectively? Sullivan asked. There were excellent stories about the blueprint for his second term, known as Project 2025, but it was far from obvious whether newsleaders stopped to ask if voters really understood the stakes. Horserace coverage prevailed day after day. And then when Biden's decline became impossible to ignore after that earth shattering presidential debate last June, news organizations changed their tune. For weeks, there was nothing but hey, Biden is old coverage once again failing to put the emphasis where it belonged on the dangers of a Trump presidency. In Bloomberg, Matthew Iglesias argued Democrats have better issues to debate. The Democrats needn't succumb to pointless what did you know and when did you know it debate about Biden's age. The public always thought he was too old, even if his team didn't, and his infirmities were on plain display during Biden's fateful debate with Trump and the subsequent flailing weeks, iglesias wrote. What the Democrats need is a constructive what did he do and why did he do it? Debate about Biden's policies. And they can't let the renewed focus on the age issue keep them from reckoning with the harder question of what their priorities are. A governor, senator, or even a former secretary of transportation or will have a much easier job than a vice president of shaking off concern about personal complicity in a cover up. But the question about policy is one for which every Democrat ought to have a thoughtful answer, iglesias said. The nascent abundance movement has the beginnings of an answer, but none of those loosely aligned politicians have drawn a specific contrast with Biden, and the main topics in that debate are wonky and technical rather than speaking to core questions of values and priorities. All right, let's head over to Isaac for his take.
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Isaac Saul
All right, that is it for the left and the right are saying. Which brings us to my take. So first and most obviously, I am wishing the former president well and I'm praying for him. A cancer diagnosis is a crushing experience for any family. Anyone who has seen the disease up close knows what he is about to go through and it is not a pleasant journey. He will need strength, excellent medical care and the love of his family. Given all he's done to fund cancer research through moonshot programs as vice president and as president, it would be a beautiful full circle moment to see his life saved by advances in medicine. At the same time, the president's diagnosis does not mean we can ignore everything else we learned in the last week. In responding to the news, longtime Democratic adviser David Axelrod said the conversations about Biden's decline should be more muted and set aside for now as he's struggling through this end quote. Which well, no, on the contrary, Biden's diagnosis provides more reason to scrutinize the former president's inner circle and the people who helped hide his mental and physical issues from the public. An advanced prostate cancer prognosis is not unheard of, but it would be surprising for a sitting president's medical team to miss the warning signs, which obviously invite more suspicion. One can hold a great deal of sympathy for Biden and his family in this difficult time, while also maintaining a proper degree of skepticism and anger about all the information we have just become privy to. To recap just a few rather jarring revelations that have come out in the last few weeks, Biden had a limited number of hours each day where he could reliably function and reportedly experience an increasing number of mom where he would freeze up, lose his train of thoughts, or forget the name of top aides or friends he had known for decades. His team spent significant time and resources trying to cover up this reality by fastidiously choreographing all of Biden's public appearances or exchanges with reporters, including limiting the president's step count with detailed instructions on where he should walk after delivering remarks. Hollywood executives, including Steven Spielberg, tried to rework lighting and sound to make Biden Biden appear less aged. His aides briefly considered whether the president needed a wheelchair before dismissing the idea to protect his electoral prospects. His inner circle was all the while insulating him from bad polling data and insisting to the public he was sharper than ever. In one particularly notable anecdote, Biden appeared unable to recognize George Clooney, not just one of Hollywood's most recognizable faces, but also a friend of Biden's for two decades. Sitting members of Congress who attended a 2024 fundraising event would recall privately not publicly, that it appeared Biden didn't know where to go and had to be ushered by the arm offstage by former President Barack Obama. Senator Chuck Schumer recounted several experiences of Biden calling him and then forgetting why he picked up the phone in the first place. Reports of rambling episodes where Biden seemed to be losing his grip were circulating privately as early as September 2021, and many objective reporters knew what was going on as early as 2017. In June of 2021, just a few months into his presidency, I was one of a few journalists who asked out loud if Biden was okay. My motivation was pretty simple. I watched the president in real time, and after comparing him to what he looked like just two or four or six years before, I had some concerns. I gave the president plenty of deference. After all, his administration came out of the gate prepared and organized, and the government was not functioning as if it were some leaderless blob. But at the time, Biden was experiencing obvious new and pronounced difficulties, both physically and communicating. The response from Tangle readers was ferocious. My inbox was inundated with angry emails accusing me of being a closet Trumper, conspiracy theorists calling me ageist, suggesting I was ignoring Biden's stutter, saying I was falling for cheap fakes that's deceptively edited videos, hundreds of people canceled their paid subscriptions, and many more unsubscribed from the newsletter. But my eyes weren't deceiving me. Along with millions of others, including Biden's inner circle, I was watching a very real decline. In February 2024, Special Counsel Robert Herr reported that he had found insufficient evidence to prosecute Biden for mishandling classified documents, but described the former president as having diminished faculties in advancing age, which would make him sympathetic and hard to convict. I praised her for including this detail in his report, as I thought concealing it would be a greater scandal than the usual decision to note it. I also said what he shared in his report is apparent to most Americans who watch Biden in interviews or press conferences, or which are already few and far between. I was again lambasted for being ageist or a conservative hack, or having a particular hatred for Biden. Last week, Axios obtained the audio of the Biden interview and well, you can be the judge. Then came the unforgettable presidential debate in June. By then, most tangled readers seemed to harbor at least some concerns about Biden's fitness. My inbox and our comments section were less full of people angry at me and more full of people angry at Democrats. Our editorial staff was unanimously alarmed by Biden's performance, and the next week I wrote that Biden should drop out of the race. Remember that at this time, many people around Biden were still insisting he had a cold, was tired and much sharper behind closed doors, and plenty of people were insisting he could get the job done through 2028. I don't recount all this just to take a victory lap. Sometimes that's fun. But when you're right about the COVID up of a person's declining health or a controversy like this that deprived half the country of a genuinely open election and it's much less enjoyable. More so. I'm putting it all in writing to contrast the recent reports about Biden during his presidency to how it was discussed at the time, and to show how effective the administration's messaging and obfuscation was. I'm also writing it out to affirm it to myself out loud and for the record, so I don't forget it. It's an odd thing, really, but after being gaslit by the Biden administration and his most ardent supporters for so long, the there were plenty of times where I doubted myself, when I doubted what was very obvious to me because the backlash was so fierce and the excuses so confidently delivered. Even some of the journalists leading the crusade against Biden now, like Jake Tapper, whose book is generating the most buzz, were the very same people who dismissed allegations of Biden's decline previously. In today's newsletter, for example, I link out to a highlight reel of Tapper mocking and demeaning guests on his show for for broaching the then taboo topic. The lesson I've learned from all of this is that sometimes the obvious thing you are seeing is just the truth. And the politicians and media, talking heads and public relations gurus trying to confuse you into seeing something different is all just noise. I'm trying to remember that lesson for myself and engrave it here in the tangled pages as a guidepost for the present and future. We will witness events in the coming years that begs us to recall this lesson yet. And I'm sure we'll find ways to confuse ourselves into believing what we want to be true. We'll be right back after this quick break.
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Michelle Bernstein
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Isaac Saul
Right, that is it for my take, which brings us to your questions answered. This one's from Phil in Collingswood, New Jersey. Phil said several countries, including Canada, the uk, Germany and Australia have privatized aspects of their air traffic control or ATC systems, reportedly achieving better outcomes than the US System. Given the long standing issues with underinvestment in United States ATC and the substantial funding required to modernize it, why isn't the Trump administration considering privatization as an option? Okay, well first of all, we don't know that he isn't. Trump could very possibly be considering privatizing air traffic control and the administration just doesn't yet have a plan, or such a plan hasn't yet leaked to the public. What we do know, however, is that Trump has proposed the Solution before. In 2017, at about the same time into his first term as now, President Trump suggested privatizing the ATC system. The context was somewhat different. The President had campaigned on a $1 trillion infrastructure reform, and he wasn't reacting to an unfolding crisis with the Federal Aviation Administration, but a more standard frustration with congressional gridlock. In June 2017, Representative Bill Shuster, the Republican from Pennsylvania, sponsored a bill to privatize atc along with a few other provisions, which passed out of committee but was never advanced to a vote. Although some of the bill's other provisions were incorporated into other legislation that was passed, the first Trump administration never really took up the cause and lobbied for its passage. If you want a fuller understanding of why Trump should or should not privatize atc, there are plenty of arguments that were advanced at the time. The Cato institute said the FAA's systems were out of date and compared a potential reform to the existing Canadian system. Brookings said that privatization wouldn't fix FAA's problems and instead arguing to reform its oversight and funding structure. We've got links to those arguments in today's episode description and our newsletter. All right, that is it for your questions answered. I'm going to send it back to John for the rest of the POD and I'll see you guys tomorrow. Peace.
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John Law
Thanks, Isaac. Here's your under the Radar story for today, folks. KJ Muldoon was born with a rare genetic disorder, CPS1 deficiency, that is often fatal for newborns and can leave those who survive with mental and developmental delays. However, KJ recently became the first patient to have a custom gene editing treatment to address the disorder, according to his doctors at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia. After three rounds of infusions, the treatment appears to have been successful and doctors are preparing to release him from the hospital. The novel approach was custom designed for KJ's illness using CRISPR gene editing technology to pinpoint the mutation in his DNA that caused the disorder. While the technology is still being studied and developed for other cases in humans, Medical experts say KJ's case could represent a breakthrough to fix mutations in other places on a person's DNA. The New York Times has this story and there's a link in today's episode description alright, next up is our numbers section. The estimated number of new cases of prostate cancer in the US in 2025 is 313,780, according to the American Cancer Society. The estimated number of deaths from prostate cancer in 2025 is 35,770. The approximate number of men who will be diagnosed with prostate cancer in their lifetime is 1 in 8. The average age of men in the US when they are first diagnosed with prostate cancer is 67. The approximate number of men in the US who have been diagnosed with prostate cancer at some point and are still Alive today is 3.3 million. The percentage of Americans with a favorable and unfavorable view of former President Joe Biden is 39% and 57%, according to a January 2025 Gallup poll. The percentage of U.S. adults who said news organizations were giving too much and too little coverage, respectively, to Joe Biden's age in an April 2024 Pew Research poll was 32% and 29%, and the percentage of U.S. adults who say news organizations were giving too much and too little coverage, respectively, to Donald Trump's age in April 2024 was 19% and 30% and last but not least, our have a nice day story. The owner of a local bookstore in Michigan faced a dilemma how to transport 9,100 books to a new store location. In an inspiring demonstration of community, more than 300 volunteers showed up on the day of the move, including a 91 year old woman, and created a human conveyor belt to transport the books one by one in alphabetical order. They completed the job in under two hours. It was a joyful experience, one volunteer said. We were passing the books and noticing and commenting to each other. Oh, have you read this one? I really enjoyed this one. NBC News has this story and there's a link in today's episode description. All right everybody, that is it for today's episode. As always, if you'd like to support our work, Please go to readtangle.com where you can sign up for a newsletter membership, podcast membership or a bundled membership that gets you a discount on both. We'll be right back here tomorrow. For Isaac and the rest of the crew, this is John Law signing off. Have a great day, y' all. Peace.
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Isaac Saul
Our executive editor and founder is me, Isaac Saul, and our executive producer is John Lowell. Today's episode was edited and engineered by Dewey Thomas. Our editorial staff is led by Managing editor Ari Weitzman with Senior editor Will Kbach and associate editors Hunter Casperson, Audrey Moorhead, Bailey Saul, Lindsey Knuth and Kendall White. Music for the podcast was produced by Diet75. To learn more about Tangle and to sign up for a membership, please visit our website@retangle.com.
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Michelle Bernstein
Mic check 1 2. Are we recording? Hi, I'm Michelle Bernstein, an award winning chef, restaurateur and mom. I have a lot on my plate, including my psoriatic arthritis symptoms. That's why I was prescribed Cosentyx. It helps me move better.
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