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Good afternoon and good evening and welcome to the Tangle Podcast, a place where you get views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking, and a little bit of my take. I'm your host Isaac Stahl. It is Wednesday, January 8th, and today we are going to be talking about Facebook's moderation changes, the abandonment of its fact checking program across Instagram, Facebook and threads, and their decision to institute a feature similar to Community Notes on X. A pretty interesting story. A lot going on here, especially politically. So excited to dive into that. Before we do though, a couple things. First of all this Friday I want to give another heads up that we are going to be publishing our annual review of our work from the past year. So every year the first Friday we are back we do this big members only post where we grade our work from the previous year. So you know, in 2021 we did it 2022, 2023 and in 2024 we did it. So there's a few previous posts like this that live up in our archives and it's really fun. It's a great opportunity to reflect on what we've learned, the things we got right, what we got wrong. If you are a member, I would keep an eye out for the Friday Edition in your inbox. If you're not yet a member, you can get the Friday Edition newsletter by going to readtangle.com membership or you can sign up to get the members only podcast that we'll publish about this on Friday by going to tanglemedia.supercast.com we are very close to the bundle of the podcast and the newsletter, so you'll be able to manage all your subscriptions on just our website, readtangle.com, which will make it a lot more convenient for you. But we'll have a preview of that podcast up here on Friday so you can check it out if you're interested in that and decide whether you want to subscribe to hear the whole thing. With that, I'm going to pass it over to John for today's main show and I'll be back for my take and your questions answered.
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Thanks Isaac and welcome everybody. Here are your quick hits for today. First up, the Palisades fires spread rapidly across Los Angeles county, covering nearly 3,000 acres as of Wednesday morning. Authorities have evacuated more than 30,000 people and approximately 10,000 homes are considered threatened. Number two in a news conference on Tuesday, President elect Donald Trump discussed his goal of gaining control of Greenland and the Panama Canal, saying he would not rule out the use of military force to do so. Trump also suggested using economic force to compel Canada to become a US State and said he would change the name of the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America. Number three Judge Eileen Cannon temporarily blocked Special counsel Jack Smith from releasing his report on the investigations into President elect Trump's election interference and classified documents cases. The order will remain in effect while a federal appeals court hears a challenge to the report's release. Separately, Trump filed a request with the Supreme Court to block his sentencing in his hush money case scheduled for January 10th. Number four the House of Representatives passed the Lake and Riley act, named after the Georgia student who was murdered by an unauthorized migrant, requiring the Department of Homeland Security to detain unauthorized migrants accused of theft, burglary or shoplifting. The bill passed with bipartisan support and will now be taken up by the senate. And number five a 7.1 magnitude earthquake struck southern Tibet, killing at least 126 people and injuring 188 others. Breaking news Just moments ago, Facebook announced it is getting rid of fact checkers and also making major changes to what content is allowed.
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This is just the latest move as Facebook's parent company Meta, and founder Mark Zuckerberg work to very publicly win favor with Donald Trump. More specifically, here's what we're going to do.
Isaac Saul
First, we're going to get rid of fact checkers and replace them with community notes similar to X starting in the US we tried in good faith to address those concerns without becoming the arbiters of truth, but the fact checkers have just been too politically biased and have destroyed more trust than they've created, especially.
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In the US On Tuesday, Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg announced that the company will end its fact checking program across Instagram, Facebook and Threads, instead instituting a feature similar to X's community notes, which crowdsources content reviews. The company will also relax limitations on controversial topics like immigration and gender identity, and will allow for more political content to appear on users feeds. Furthermore, Zuckerberg announced that Meta will work with President elect Donald Trump to combat censorship across the world. A little history here Facebook was founded in 2004, but it did not publish a set of community standards until 2010. The company acquired Instagram in 2012, then started reviewing content with third party fact checkers in 2016. Since then, Facebook has sparked controversy through decisions to censor stories about Hunter Biden's laptop and and numerous posts during the COVID 19 pandemic. In August of 2024, Zuckerberg wrote a letter to Congress apologizing for censoring posts, saying that the company had bowed to government pressure about how to moderate content during the pandemic. Zuckerberg characterized the changes as a trade off between catching less bad stuff while allowing for more freedom for users to post without repercussions. In recent years, we've developed increasingly complex systems to manage content across our platforms, partly in response to societal political pressure to moderate content. This approach has gone too far, meta Chief Global Affairs Officer Joel Kaplan added in a statement. The change presents a major shift in policy and further indicates the company's willingness to work with the incoming Trump administration. Last week, Zuckerberg hired Kaplan, who worked in the George W. Bush administration, to be Meta's chief of global affairs. On Tuesday, Kaplan announced Meta's new policies on Fox News, where he complimented X's community notes moderation features. Meta also announced that it is moving its content moderation team from California to Texas, as Elon Musk recently did with X. President Elect Trump and other Republicans mostly praised the move. I think they have come a long way Facebook Meta, trump said at a press conference. Conversely, Meta's change of direction has invited criticism and fears about the online spread of misinformation. This type of wisdom of the crowd approach can be really valuable, said Valerie Wirtshafter, a fellow at the Brookings Institute. But doing so without proper testing and viewing its viability around scale is really, really irresponsible. Meta's already having a hard time dealing with bad content as it is, and it's going to get even worse. Today we'll cover what the right and the left are saying about Meta's new policies, and then Isaac's.
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See mintmobile.com for details. All right, first up, let's start with what the right is saying. The right welcomes the move, though many say the decision does not undo the harm done by the company's past policies. Some argue Zuckerberg's change, of course, is a massive rebuke of the left. Others say the tech executive's apparent shift right highlights more troubling issues. In Fox News, Jonathan Turley suggested Meta's changes could be truly transformational. In the last few years, a mix of House investigations and litigation has forced more of the censorship system under the Biden administration into public view. That is expected to draw even greater attention with the continued discovery in Missouri versus Biden showing years of false statements about the extent of this government corporate alliance across social media platforms, turley wrote. While Zuckerberg portrayed Meta as an unwilling partner in this censorship system in his Tuesday video, he and the company ignored several years of objections from many of us regarding the critical role the company plays in targeting and censoring opposing viewpoints around the world. Free speech is in a free fall Speech crimes and censorship have become the norm in the West. A new industry of disinformation experts has commoditized censorship, making millions in the targeting and silencing of others. An anti free speech culture has taken root in government, higher education and the media, turley said. We will either hold the line now or lose this indispensable right for future generations. Zuckerberg could make this a truly transformative moment, but it will take more than a passing Meta culpa. In the Daily Caller, Gage Clipper called the move a seismic shift against censorship. The decision is an overdue recognition of the obvious and a vindication of everything the right's been saying about censorship within Big Tech for the past several years. Government and media were the bad actors all along, weaponizing empathy for others along with the threat of federal regulation to force tech companies into doing their work that the First Amendment precludes, clipper wrote. The objective fact checkers were nothing more than far left hacks poisoning the body politic in the name of truth and justice. But open discourse doesn't mean content moderation, and the correct answer to social discord is always more speech. This is an epic indictment of all the forces of censorship in America. Zuckerberg was their guy. He had forsaken his early commitment to free expression to become the enforcement arm of the government's unofficial disinformation bureau. His nearly unlimited reach and resources would ensure Progressive's Thousand Year Reich. Now that he's turned, there's no more credible person to reveal who these nefarious actors really are. He pulled back the veil in under five minutes. In National Review, Noah Rothman said just two cheers for Facebook. It's possible to welcome the salubrious shifts in corporate behavior we've seen from places like Silicon Valley in the wake of Donald Trump's election, and to be disturbed by the degree to which private enterprise feels it must get right with the people in power if it is to avoid negative outcomes, rothman wrote. It is highly likely that Facebook's decision to shift to an X style fact checking regime moderated by the community, thus outsourcing responsibility for potentially erroneous checks onto a nebulous community is primarily a response to Mark Zuckerberg's competitors in the social media space. It's also unlikely that Zuckerberg is wholly unresponsive to the threats to his firm. Trump has retailed for years. We should not conclude that the changes Facebook is making to its content moderation are going to be permanent if they are a response to one election. If the censorious regime to which the institution committed itself at the end of the last decade was an outgrowth of the left's political capture of the institution in the sense that Democrats would soon control the levers of power, we can expect to see that pendulum shift again along with political wins, rothman said. This is all a rational response to a government that enjoys far too much power and influence over private commercial enterprises. If the prevailing corporate culture in America must reflect whatever the party in power in Washington believes, we should withhold that third cheer for Zuckerberg's maneuver. All right, that is it for what the right is saying. Which brings us to what the left is saying. The left opposes the move, suggesting it is motivated by political expediency. Some argue that Zuckerberg's decision is not a reversal, but a reminder that he has no free speech principles at all. Others say the move will have far reaching consequences for politics around the world. In the Guardian, Chris Stoeckl Walker called Meta's decision an extinction level event for truth on social media. Less than two weeks before Donald Trump returns to the White House for a second crack at the US presidency, Meta, the parent company of Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram and Threads, has made major changes to content moderation and in doing so appears to align itself with the views of the incoming president. Stuckle Walker said the platform is getting rid of its 40,000 strong content moderation team in their place. Mobrule the most dog whistle comment was a throwaway remark that Meta would be moving what remained of its trust and safety and content moderation teams out of liberal California and its US Content moderation team would now be based in staunchly Republican Texas. To be clear, all businesspeople make shrewd moves to accommodate the political weather, and there are few more violent storms than Hurricane Trump approaching the US but few people's decisions matter more than Mark Zuckerberg, Stuckle Walker wrote. The Meta CEO has found himself in the past 21 years a central part of our society. Initially, he oversaw a website that was used by college students. Now it's used by billions of us from all walks of life. Where Meta goes, the world online and offline follows. And Meta has just decided to take a drastic, dramatic handbrake turn to the right. In Bloomberg, Dave Lee wrote, Meta's fact checking reversal lets Zuckerberg drop the charade Zuckerberg said he would now work on issues of free speech with Trump, who just four years ago was considered too dangerous even to be a Meta user. Lee said there is a view that Zuckerberg has shamefully abandoned his values in fear of Trump and in the hope that cozying up will be good for business. But it would be wrong to believe Zuckerberg ever truly held those values in the first place. And he's finally found the political cover needed to drop a years long charade on safety and shed any pretense about being responsible for the accuracy of information that users see. Really, what the moment allows is for Zuckerberg to claim a different kind of victory by throwing in accusations that its fact checkers were politically biased, lee wrote. What we're seeing in Silicon Valley above all else is a backlash to the accountability of the Biden era. A big part of that, as evidenced by his legacy media job, is Zuckerberg's belief, shared by many in the tech business as though it were gospel, that editors and publishers sent reporters out like attack dogs to take down Meta's business so that old media could somehow return to its glory years. It is ludicrous, of course, but it has given many tech leaders the excuse they need to treat bad press as disingenuous attacks rather than an examination of their actions and character. In Heiss, Torsten Baek said Zuckerberg risks digital chaos. Zuckerberg speaks of a triumph of freedom of opinion and speech. But the reality is different. Social networks such as Facebook and Instagram are not neutral. They are driven by algorithms that maximize interactions. The more polarizing and emotional the content, the greater its reach. Without moderation, this effect will explode. The result? A flood of disinformation, hate speech and radicalization, bajk wrote. Anyone who believes that a free platform automatically leads to better discourse is ignoring experience 4chan or telegram show where this leads. Toxic spaces that are abused by extremist groups. Meta is not a hobby project, but one of the most powerful communication platforms. Zuckerberg has a responsibility to his users and to society. Its platforms shape public debates and influence how we communicate with each other. Abolishing moderation in this context opens the door to manipulation, hatred and chaos, baek said. The invocation of freedom of speech is pure window dressing. True freedom of speech does not mean that every lie and every hate comment can be spread unfiltered. Rather, it requires a space in which fact based discussions are possible. All right, let's head over to Isaac for his take.
Isaac Saul
All right, that is it for what the left and the right are saying. Which brings us to my take. So as many of you know, though I'm sure many of you also don't know, I played competitive Ultimate Frisbee for many years. I also coached it and one of the unique aspects of ultimate as a sport, aside from the superior instrument of play that is a Frisbee, is that even the most elite levels of ultimate are self officiated. Players call their own fouls and violations. They follow a rule book with instructions for what to do in situations where they disagree on what happened. The entire sport is built on this honor system that is very cornally named spirit of the game, and in most cases it actually works pretty well. Today, at the most elite levels, non active referees called observers are on the field to help resolve disputes and clarify the rules in cases where players can't come to their own resolution. But a new Pro League about 10 years ago popped up with actual referees clad in black and white shirts, whistles making active calls. Like in other major professional sports, this development threw gasoline on this long burning debate among athletes in ultimate over whether observers or referees were better. Which for me is what immediately came to mind when I read about the fact checking versus Community note debate that's taking place right now. Personally, I've always been pro observer. I think it's the better system because it allows players to manage the game themselves, to call the kinds of fouls that refs constantly miss. Having played in both systems, I can assure you more violations get missed with refs, and it demands a level of accountability, honesty and honor among participants that referees does not. In fact, refs engender almost the complete opposite. They provide an incentive to see how much you can get away with without getting caught a game. I happily play in refereed sports for many of the same reasons. I'm very supportive of a community notes system over a professional fact checker system. Users are often better at policing their own feeds than a relatively small group of empowered and often beleaguered fact checkers. Not only are there more of them, but they will often have more immediate context for the posts they are reading. And if the audience is somewhat balanced, community source fact checking will have diversity of thought too. Watching Zuckerberg's video yesterday, I agreed with most of what he said. Facebook went too far in the direction of policing its users, which created too much censorship and destroyed its trust and credibility with too many people. So on net, I'm supportive of this change. As someone running a politics news organization, I'm also supportive of the decision to allow political content to proliferate more on the platform. Facebook had good reason to initiate its content moderation changes. Its engagement based ranking of civic posts literally contributed to a genocide in Myanmar. But some of those changes also removed news from people's feeds, which legitimately helped destroy the last media company that I worked for. At its best, I think Facebook is a much better platform for sharing news, commenting and interacting with readers than X or Instagram, so I would personally be happy to see news stories come back as a user too. Still, I have some concerns, starting with the overtly political nature of the decision. As Dave Lee noted under what the Left Is Saying, Zuckerberg has gone from thinking Trump was too dangerous to be on the platform four years ago to following his lead on how to run the platform now. I've always thought that Zuckerberg's decisions are motivated more by navigating the political climate than following his own moral compass. He's made it very clear he is making this decision in concert with the incoming Trump administration he pledged to work with the president elect, rolled this out right after Trump's election, hired Joel Kaplan, who has close ties to the Trump administration, had Kaplan make the announcement on Fox News and then bookended the announcement by meeting with Trump and adding Trump ally Dana White to Meta's board. He was also misleading in how he framed the issue. As the executive director of PolitiFact noted, It was Facebook, not the fact checkers, who decided how to penalize users for their posts. Zuckerberg tries to blame fact checkers for actions Facebook took, when in reality all the fact checkers were doing was adding context and alerting Facebook to posts that might contain misinformation. Whether you are upset by the proliferation of misinformation or the censorship of conservatives, Facebook, not fact checkers or news organizations or the Biden administration, holds responsibility for that. This all comes just days after Elon Musk announced X would start promoting more positive content and start downgrading negative content without really defining what either of those are. The pair of changes coming right as a new president enters office that both men are clearly currying favor with unsettles me. Just as so many people fretted over the Biden administration working too closely with social media platforms like Facebook to censor content, we should all be worried about the wealthiest people in the world overseeing the most powerful information distribution systems in the world working hand in hand with this president. Lastly, even if it's better than authoritative fact checkers, X's community notes system has a lot of room for improvement. Primarily, it is too slow. The feature often needs 24 to 48 hours before a post gets a note under it warning users that it is overtly and obviously false. By then, it usually has millions of views and the truth never gets the chance to catch up. There is no great hack to end misinformation, and any system will have flaws. In my opinion, the best way to fight misinformation is to teach people to spot lies, think critically, and ask questions. Empowering users with a community notes system is one way to do that. But to improve upon what X is built, Meta should focus on supplying context more quickly when a post is tagged for review, which will help prevent false or misleading information from going viral for long periods of time before getting a community note. I might suggest using those malign fact checkers somewhere in the review process and having their work shown in collaboration with the community. But that will all be up to Meta, a company that now has the unenviable job of rolling out a new system they have not yet tested and only recently announced in a politically charged moment just as Trump takes office for the second time. I'll be watching, of course, and hoping for the best foreign we'll be right back after this quick break.
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All right, that is it for my take. Which brings us to your questions answered. This one's from Nicholas in Woburn, Massachusetts. Nicholas said Can Donald Trump actually block congestion pricing in New York? Good question. Despite saying he will no, not anymore. Trump can't directly stop New York's congestion pricing plan at this point in November, when New York governor Kathy Hochul, the Democrat, said she would institute the plan after pausing it in June, Republican lawmakers in New York appealed to President Elect Trump, asking him to block the plan at the time, he still could have after taking office. Congestion pricing was approved in New York City in April 2019, and since the law affects interstate commerce, it then required the approval of the Federal Transit Authority FTA and sign off from the president. Hochul unpaused the program in November, and that's when Trump and Republicans came out vowing to block it. However, later that month, Biden and the FTA authorized the program, which meant Trump could no longer block it or delay it with a lengthier environmental review process. GOP lawmakers accused Biden of conspiring with Hochul by rushing the review process so that New York could institute the plan before Trump took office. But there isn't much they can do now. The plan has survived its remaining legal challenges and is now law in New York. In theory, Trump, who remember, is a native New Yorker, still has the option of challenging the law through the courts. He can direct the Justice Department to sue, claiming the policy is an unconstitutional violation of interstate commerce, claiming, for instance, that New Jersey residents are unfairly impacted and did not have a vote on the matter since similar lawsuits already failed. Though he would have to get creative. I don't really know what a new federal challenge could look like, but I'd guess it would follow the President elect appointing a new district judge who is unsympathetic to congestion pricing before introducing a lawsuit. All of that could end up taking years. So if you're in New Yorker hoping that Trump can stop the plan, you should probably just buckle up and start saving some of your pocket change for those tolls. All right, that is it for your questions answered. I'm going to send it back to John for the rest of the pod and I'll see you guys tomorrow. Peace.
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Podcast Title: Tangle
Host: Isaac Saul
Episode: Content Moderation Changes at Meta
Release Date: January 8, 2025
In this episode of Tangle, host Isaac Saul delves into the significant changes Meta (formerly Facebook) is implementing regarding content moderation across its platforms—Facebook, Instagram, and Threads. Announced on January 8, 2025, these changes mark a departure from Meta's established fact-checking programs toward a model akin to Community Notes on X (formerly Twitter). The discussion highlights the political ramifications of these shifts, especially in the context of Meta's relationship with the incoming Trump administration.
Joel Kaplan, Meta's Chief Global Affairs Officer, provides an overview of the changes:
Elimination of Fact Checkers: Meta will discontinue its fact-checking teams, which have been perceived as politically biased. This move is intended to restore user trust by shifting to a community-driven review system.
Isaac Saul [06:25]: "First, we're going to get rid of fact checkers and replace them with community notes similar to X... the fact checkers have just been too politically biased and have destroyed more trust than they've created."
Introduction of Community Notes: Inspired by X, Meta will implement a crowdsourced content review feature, aiming to democratize the moderation process.
Relaxed Content Limitations: Meta plans to ease restrictions on sensitive topics such as immigration and gender identity, allowing a broader spectrum of political content to surface in user feeds.
Collaboration with Donald Trump: Meta intends to work closely with President-elect Donald Trump to address and mitigate censorship concerns globally.
Historical Context: Meta, established in 2004, began formalizing its content standards in 2010. Over the years, it has faced scrutiny for censoring content related to political figures and sensitive events, such as Hunter Biden's laptop and COVID-19 information. In August 2024, CEO Mark Zuckerberg apologized to Congress for perceived overreach in content moderation during the pandemic, acknowledging the erosion of user trust.
The right-wing commentators broadly welcome Meta's shift, viewing it as a corrective measure against what they perceive as left-leaning censorship.
Jonathan Turley (Fox News):
"Zuckerberg's change... is a massive rebuke of the left... we will either hold the line now or lose this indispensable right for future generations."
Gage Clipper (Daily Caller):
"The objective fact checkers were nothing more than far-left hacks... An epic indictment of all the forces of censorship in America."
Noah Rothman (National Review):
"Facebook's decision to shift to an X style fact checking regime... is primarily a response to Mark Zuckerberg's competitors in the social media space."
These perspectives emphasize the relief and vindication the right feels, attributing Meta's previous censorship to a biased system favoring progressive agendas.
Conversely, left-wing voices express apprehension about the potential rise in misinformation and hate speech resulting from the reduced moderation.
Chris Stoeckl Walker (The Guardian):
"Meta's decision... appears to align itself with the views of the incoming president... This is an extinction level event for truth on social media."
Dave Lee (Bloomberg):
"Zuckerberg has shamefully abandoned his values in fear of Trump... What we're seeing in Silicon Valley above all else is a backlash to the accountability of the Biden era."
Torsten Baek (Heiss):
"Zuckerberg risks digital chaos... Without moderation, this effect will explode. The result? A flood of disinformation, hate speech and radicalization."
These critiques highlight fears that Meta's new policies may undermine the quality of discourse on its platforms, fostering environments ripe for manipulation and extremist content.
Drawing an analogy from his experience in competitive Ultimate Frisbee, Isaac Saul compares Meta's shift from professional fact checkers to community notes with the sport's transition from referees to self-officiating players:
Isaac Saul [20:14]: "I can assure you more violations get missed with refs, and it demands a level of accountability, honesty and honor among participants that referees do not."
Saul expresses support for the community notes system, believing that user-driven moderation can enhance trust and context in content reviews:
Isaac Saul [20:02]: "Users are often better at policing their own feeds than a relatively small group of empowered and often beleaguered fact checkers."
However, he raises concerns about the political motivations behind Meta's changes:
Isaac Saul [20:02]: "Zuckerberg's decisions are motivated more by navigating the political climate than following his own moral compass."
He cautions that aligning content moderation policies closely with political powers, especially the incoming Trump administration, may compromise the system's integrity and effectiveness. Saul suggests potential improvements, such as integrating professional fact checkers into the community notes framework to enhance speed and accuracy.
Isaac Saul wraps up the episode by acknowledging the complexity of Meta's decisions, balancing between improving user trust and navigating the intricate political landscape. He emphasizes the importance of fostering critical thinking and media literacy among users as a more sustainable solution to misinformation rather than relying solely on platform-driven moderation systems.
As Meta rolls out its new content moderation policies, Saul commits to observing their impact, especially in the charged political environment following President Trump's return to office.
Notable Quotes:
Isaac Saul [06:25]: "The fact checkers have just been too politically biased and have destroyed more trust than they've created."
Jonathan Turley [06:25]: "We will either hold the line now or lose this indispensable right for future generations."
Chris Stoeckl Walker [09:39]: "This is an extinction level event for truth on social media."
Isaac Saul [20:02]: "Zuckerberg's decisions are motivated more by navigating the political climate than following his own moral compass."
Timestamped Insights:
[06:14 – 10:43]: Joel Kaplan outlines Meta's new content moderation policies, historical context, and strategic alignment with the Trump administration.
[10:43 – 20:02]: Detailed reactions from both the right and the left, showcasing the polarized perspectives on Meta's changes.
[20:02 – 26:33]: Isaac Saul provides his nuanced take, drawing parallels from sports to analyze the effectiveness and implications of community-driven moderation.
Final Thoughts:
This episode of Tangle offers a comprehensive exploration of Meta's significant policy shift in content moderation, analyzing its ramifications through multiple political lenses. By incorporating diverse viewpoints and personal insights, Isaac Saul presents listeners with a balanced understanding of the evolving dynamics in social media governance.