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Jonathan Fields
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John Law
From executive producer Isaac Saul, this is Tangle.
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Will Kaback
Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening, and welcome to the Tangle Podcast, a place where you get views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking, and a little bit of our take. It is a Tuesday. I am senior Editor Will Kbach, and it's great to have you here with us today. We're gearing up to discuss a topic that's a little bit more personal than the ones I typically write about. I'll say more about that soon, but if you've been reading the news closely over the past few weeks, you've probably seen the phrase Democratic Socialist candidate more often than usual. And I'm not just talking about Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, or Zoran Mamdani, either. Political hopefuls associated with the Democratic Socialists of America, the dsa, have been rising in the polls or winning primaries outright over the past few months, and that has generated a flurry of commentary about whether the Democratic Party is in the midst of a leftward swing. So in today's edition, we're going to look at some of those recent races and explore what they tell us about the political ecosystem heading into the midterms, particularly on the Democratic side. And I'll also share a bit about my own political evolution solution and how it influences my current thoughts on dsa. We also have an under the radar story a little bit later in the episode about fentanyl and drug trafficking and the DEA in New Mexico that was pretty shocking for the entire Tangle editorial team when we read it. So stay tuned for that and one final message before we get into today's main topic. We have a new interview out today with Executive Editor Isaac Saul and Tim Urban, the creator of the Wait, but why? Blog and the author of the book what's Our Problem? As well as a forthcoming book next year. Tim is somebody who we really admire over at Tangle. His blog is one that we've all read for several years, and his book speaks to many of the same themes that we tackle at Tangle and is core to our mission. In this interview, Isaac and Tim discuss why otherwise intelligence people sometimes feel unable to resist the temptation to fall into an echo chamber and also how some get out of that echo chamber. The conversation flows from there. It touches on some familiar themes and also some new and novel ones, and we think you're really going to enjoy it. So head on over to our YouTube channel to check it out and give it a watch. All right, with that, I'm going to hand it over to John for today's topic and then I'll be back in a bit to read my take John over to you.
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John Law
Thanks, Will, and welcome everybody. Here are your quick hits for today. First up, Treasury Secretary Scott Besant announced that the Trump administration will lift sanctions on Iranian oil exports for 60 days, citing progress in peace discussions. Vice President J.D. vance also said that Iran had agreed to allow United nations inspectors to visit nuclear facilities, but Iran said no new commitments had been made. Number two, the Senate voted 85. 5 to pass a bill targeting housing affordability. The bill now heads to the House, where it is expected to pass. Number three, former Federal Reserve Chair Alan Greenspan passed away at the age of 100. Greenspan served five terms as chair under four presidents. Number four, a federal judge blocked the Trump administration from creating a federal database of voter information, including Social Security numbers and citizenship status as part of a crackdown on alleged non citizen voting. And number five, Florida's emergency management director reportedly instructed contractors in Florida to begin a full demobilization of the state's immigration detention facility known as Alligator Alcatraz, formally shutting down operations at the center after the last detainees left last week.
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Will Kaback
Well, a different kind of politician keeps
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Jake Stauch
winning in American cities.
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Bombas Representative
The Democratic Socialist and this week, another
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Jake Stauch
major victory in the race to become
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Will Kaback
the next mayor of Washington, D.C. ahead
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John Law
of the 2026 midterm elections. Candidates aligned with the Democratic Socialists of America have broken through in primary races for local and national seats, headlined by figures like Senator Bernie Sanders, Representative Alexandria Ocasio, Cortez and Representative Rashida Tlaib, Democratic Socialist candidates have challenged incumbents in strongly democratic areas, seeking to pull the party toward more progressive positions on key issues. For context, Democratic Socialists believe in the political philosophy of socialism, which holds that the state should redistribute wealth and take an active role in societal issues. Unlike socialists or communists, Democratic socialists advocate for these goals through the democratic process rather than revolution. DSA traces its origins to the early 1970s, when its leaders organized in opposition to the Vietnam War and later the rise of Ronald Reagan. Today, DSA describes its mission as replacing capitalism with a democratic socialist system exemplified by policies such as single payer, Medicare for all, defunding the police, and the Green New Deal. In addition to Ocasio, Cortez, Tlaib and Sanders, New York City Mayor Zoran Mamdani has emerged as one of the faces of DSA in the United States. Mamdani defeated former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo in the city's mayoral primary last year, then defeated him again when Cuomo ran as an independent in the general election. Since then, Mamdani has endorsed DSA candidates in local and federal elections in New York City, including Claire Valadez and Darieliza Avila Chevalier, who is challenging a five term incumbent Democrat in New York's 13th congressional district primary this Tuesday. Separately, last Thursday, DSA endorsed Janice Louis George won the Democratic primary for mayor of Washington, D.C. making her the presumptive favorite to win the general election in the heavily Democratic city. Louis George won the primary by over 18 points, with particularly strong results at polling sites where over 60% of the population is under 35. The week prior, President Donald Trump said that the federal government may intervene in Washington DC's operations if Louis George becomes mayor. Elsewhere in the Los Angeles mayoral election, DSA City Council member Nithya Raman advanced to a runoff against Mayor Karen Bass, setting up a general election race between the progressive challenger and the incumbent Democrat. In Maine, Graham Plattner, a progressive Democrat who previously aligned himself with dsa, recently won the state's Democratic Senate primary. Today we'll explore the rise of DSA and DSA aligned candidates in the United States with views from the left and the right and then Senior Editor Will Kbach will give his take.
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Isaac Saul
We'll be right back after this quick break.
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Jonathan Fields
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- [10:37]
John Law
Alright, first up, let's start with what the left is saying. Many on the left suggest Democrats should embrace new candidates. Some argue that socialist policies will continue to be popular among urban constituencies. Others warn that far left candidates can't successfully run in competitive races. In the New York Times, Matthew Iglesias argued the Democrats need a candidate shakeup. The 2024 election showed that the party is simply not large enough to command a majority of the country, iglesias wrote. Building a new and hopefully larger tent requires a different set of skills, more willingness to jeopardize parts of the existing coalition, more outsider personnel, and ultimately someone willing to run the kind of risky underdog campaigns that put Donald Trump and Barack Obama in the White House. Rebuilding the party and bringing in new people with less investment in things as they are will help the party decide what it is about which policy commitments are genuinely central and which merit flexibility or abandonment, iglesias said. Moving in the direction of fresher faces is going to necessarily mean more ideological conflict rather than less. The process will be contentious and will make existing party leaders uncomfortable. In the American Prospect, Harold Meyerson described why Cities Go Socialist. Mamdani's, Lewis George's and Rahman's political base isn't confined to DSA members, meyerson wrote. The two issues that both Mamdani and Louis George most stressed were making childcare and homes affordable, issues that all but define the politics of young city residents, issues that highlight the market failures of current American capitalism and the need for higher taxes on the wealthy to provide badly needed social necessities. Which is why the future of most American big cities, most certainly those that attract younger residents, is likely to be socialist, democratic and often, often run by avowed socialists, myerson said. The Bernies, Mamdanis and AOCs won't be the Democratic Party's lonesome ends. They will be the party's urban wing. The sooner the Democrats understand that, and the sooner they embrace many of that wing's policies, however they choose to label them and themselves, the better. In cnn, Ronald Brownstein said that this year's primaries are reshaping the Democratic Party. The struggle over control of the Democratic Party's direction has roared to new heights this year. The confrontations have not produced a knockout victory for either side, brownstein wrote. On balance, though, the left so far has outpointed the center in these contests, an advantage that could widen if several Mamdani endorsed congressional candidates win in New York, as is expected. But Democratic centrists correctly point out that a significant majority of the successful progressive primary candidates are winning in safely Democratic areas. In the competitive seats that will decide control of the House and Senate. The party still largely relies on moderate nominees, and for those candidates, the left's rise, even in safe seats, could prove an unwelcome complication, bernstein said. In reliably blue places, Democratic primary voters can support the most liberal candidates without worrying if they will win the general election. In the races that count, the most electability remains likely to trump ideology. Alright, that is it for what the left is saying. Which brings us to what the right is saying. Many on the right are concerned about DSA candidates growing influence. Some predict that support for progressive politicians will wane once they start governing. Others say socialist policies don't work without force. In the Daily Signal, Jarrett Stepman suggested the Democratic base wants full throated leftism. Democrats are quickly moving away from denying their socialist connections to openly embracing them. That's a lesson to be learned from a clear trend taking hold in America's most populous blue bastion, stepman wrote. The Democratic Party has lurched so far to the left that in the most secure bastions. It's being taken over by open socialists and Marxists, and there seems to be little resistance. They are using the enthusiasm and organization of groups like the Democratic Socialists of America to outhustle and replace the old party establishment. And so far it's working, at least in places that Democrats already comfortably control. They are now going to lean into ideas like wealth and property confiscation, into the concept of borderless society that rejects any kind of immigration law enforcement, into the kind of radical ideas that the party may have wished for but shrewdly kept quiet about, stepman said. If this trend continues, they soon won't be the insurgents anymore. They'll be the establishment. They'll have control of a national party with a very clear goal of finally bringing socialism to every corner of the country. In the Washington Post, Meghan McCardle said, Wait for reality to set in. It is a heady moment for the left because socialism's tainted brand has recovered from the vivid failures of the Soviet Union, McCardell wrote. The challenge is that socialism's rise is spiky, concentrated in blue cities where affluent but often downwardly mobile college graduates cluster. That's a problem for the Democratic Party, where the excesses of progressive governance are helping to make the party's brand toxic in the less true blue areas. But it's also a challenge for the socialists because cities are the hardest place to execute big plans for new taxing and spending, McCardle said. Socialists may wax lyrical about a Nordic style welfare state, but those states are paid for by heavily taxing the middle class, an idea that is unlikely to gain much purchase with the educated base of the democratic socialists of America. Today's college educated elite is voting for more public services, not less disposable income in the hill, Amzari Galashvili argued, most Democrats are frighteningly wrong about socialism. At protests across American cities, demonstrators have carried Soviet flags, the hammer and sickle on red cloth as symbols of resistance, galashvili wrote. I'm not going to answer them with statistics or economic theory. I will instead tell them my family's story. In February 1951, my grandfather's family was loaded onto a cattle car with hundreds of others. Many people were beaten with rifle butts. A young man, maddened by thirst at one point jumped from his wagon to reach for water from a stream. Soldiers shot him on the spot. Americans associate the word socialism with equality and government services, not with deportation lists, sealed cattle wagons or children hauling earth until they die of heat, galashely said. But socialism in practice does not work without force and brutality, even if you give it nice adjectives like democratic socialism is not really a policy or an economic system. It is not Scandinavian. It is a machine whose only function is to destroy anyone sufficiently capable, principled, or stubborn enough to threaten those who operate it. It does this legally, bureaucratically, and when necessary, with bullets. Alright, let's head over to Will for his.
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Will Kaback
Thanks, John. All right, this is Will back here to read my take. Ten years ago, I would have proudly told anyone who would listen that I was a Democratic Socialist. Allow me to take you back to that time. It was a wintry midwestern afternoon in January 2016, and I was a senior in high school, riding in the back of a coach bus, rumbling along I35 from Minneapolis to Des Moines, chattering away with my politically inclined classmates. We were participating in a school program that brought interested students to the Iowa caucuses in presidential election years, and for three days we canvassed for a candidate of our choice, attended rallies for Democratic and Republican candidates, and observed the proceedings. On caucus night, I chose to spend my time with the Bernie Sanders campaign. Those days were very cool for me and very interesting and sparked my interest in politics that continues to this day. But at that time, the coolest thing of all for me was the chance to door knock and get out the vote for Bernie. For months leading up to the trip, I had become enamored with the Vermont senator and his calls for reducing wealth inequality and reforming the healthcare system and pursuing more aggressive strategies to combat climate change. These were all issues that I felt very deep in my core. I also liked that he unapologetically called himself a democratic socialist, and I thought that people who viewed that label negatively just didn't understand what it really meant. I would say things like, it doesn't mean like socialism, socialism. It's just about electing people who want things to be fairer for everyone. And on caucus night in Iowa, I was in the front row at the Sanders rally. I got to shake his hand after he spoke, and we all felt full of hope that this moment was the start of bigger things to come. Now, flashback forward to the present. Today, I no longer see myself as part of that movement, and frankly, I'm a lot less assured in my political views than I was back in high school. Still, I understand the draw of the democratic socialist candidates popping up across the United States. For many voters, particularly younger ones, socialism isn't the boogeyman that it used to be. In fact, many say they prefer it to capitalism. Plus, the past year offers plenty for these young voters to be excited about. Aside from Bernie's enduring influence, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez is a likely 2028 presidential contender. Zoran Mamdani is confidently leading New York City at the start of his mayoral term. And in just the past few weeks, Democratic socialist candidates have excelled in primaries in Los Angeles and Washington, dc. In contemporary US Politics, labels that once were considered disqualifying matter less than ever. Branding President Trump a felon did nothing to stop him from winning reelection in 2024. Democrat Graham Platner and Republican Ken Paxton each just won high profile Senate primaries despite well publicized and wide ranging controversies. This dynamic, paired with contempt for the second Trump administration and dissatisfaction or outright disgust with mainstream Democrats response to it, has created fertile ground for democr socialists to gain a foothold. So is DSA a response to the MAGA movement? I think it's a yes and a no. The two movements do have undeniable similarities. Both are at their roots, economic populist movements. They both seize on an anti establishment framing the swamp and globalists on one side, the billionaire class and corporate elites on the other. Both have effectively leveraged simple, repeatable phrases to galvanize their bases build the wall, America first, Medicare for all, tax the rich, and so on. Both frame their movements in binary terms patriots versus traders or workers versus billionaires. And they both enjoy a certain zeal in taking on institutions once viewed as political power brokers the media, the experts, the national party leadership. Their differences, of course, are stark. MAGA sees most issues through a national identity lens, while democratic socialists filter their worldview class and equity. Additionally, while the movement may have borrowed some of maga's playbook or vice versa, it is ultimately working toward very different goals. And perhaps most saliently, democratic socialism is not defined by a single political leader, but rather a nationwide network of candidates at all levels of government. All of this leaves me feeling conflicted when assessing DSA's trajectory in this political moment. On one hand, we need to be careful not to extrapolate our sense of the national mood from the results of local elections in deep blue areas. The DDSA candidates in Tuesday's New York City primaries haven't even secured nominations yet, while Nithya Rahman is still an underdog against Karen Bass in Los Angeles, New York City and Seattle have Democratic socialist mayors, with Washington, D.C. almost certainly soon to follow. But these are places where more progressive candidates already succeed. And as Megan McArdle noted under what the Right Is Saying, politicians are often forced to trade idealism for pragmatism once they have power, which can also lead to disillusionment and infighting within the movements that prize ideological purity, of which I'd say DSA is one. On the other hand, these urban centers are the most populous places in the country, and millions of people rallying around these politicians could represent the early signs of an earnest political shift. The Democratic Party appears ripe for a shakeup and DSA or DSA adjacent candidates messaging seems to be resonating with the party's most engaged voters, particularly on immigration, Israel and healthcare. Here again, the MAGA movement is instructive. How many Republican politicians felt a false sense of security headed into 2016, thinking GOP voters would never roll the dice on someone as risky as Trump? I get the sense that Democratic voters are equally dissatisfied with their party leadership as Republicans were in 2016, and they're happy to look elsewhere, electability be damned. Take Graham Platner, who isn't formally DSA but whose messaging is very similar. I've spoken with several friends in Maine who said they happily cast a Democratic primary ballot for the embattled oyster farmer because they think he can provide a necessary jolt to a system they feel is increasingly overrun with corruption and controlled by elderly lawmakers clinging to power. And I can understand that position. But like I said, I am conflicted. A part of me, that 18 year old self hungers for something, anything new from the left. Another part, call it my tangle brain thinks that the Democratic socialist movement isn't representing something new, but a continuation of a form of ideologically rigid politics that has contributed to our current divisions and and won't help us get back on track now. Those dueling feelings also suggest two potential pathways for DSA candidates in the coming months. In the first pathway, the movement continues gaining momentum with bold ideas on housing in particular bringing broader attention and support. In New York City, Mamdani has released a plan to build 200,000 new homes in the next decade, and Valdez, his potential ally in Congress, has put forward proposals to create a federal housing developer and a national housing construction fund. Of course, these aren't overnight solutions, but they strike me as the kind of bold thinking that could garner both attention and support. If DSA becomes associated with housing policy reform in the way that MAGA became associated with stronger immigration enforcement, its candidates could gain traction beyond blue cities. Again, labels matter less than ever, and voters might not care about the Democratic socialist tag if they think that a candidate just has good ideas on housing affordability in 2016, Trump's huge rally turnouts and polling strength in the early primary states were harbingers of his eventual success. And right now Sanders and AOC are drawing large crowds of their own in their Fighting Oligarchy tour. And not just in the big Democratic cities either. The turnout for these kind of large scale gatherings is another signal to pay attention to, but Pathway two is what I might call the woke trap. DSA and its candidates unabashedly embrace progressive social policies like transgender rights, police reform and abolishing ICE at the national level. Voters appeared to reject those policies in 2024, and I don't think much has changed since then, at least at the national level. Even with the unpopularity of the Trump administration, I don't see evidence of a broad appetite for this kind of social progressivism, especially when it's worn on the candidate's sleeve. Just look at how James Tallarico is trying to distance himself from 2020 era comments he made about religion and gender in the Texas Senate race. These candidates won't be able to sell their economic vision if they're constantly having to account for their social views. Furthermore, DSA is constantly preoccupied with internal disputes and ideological purity tests. Just look at how aoc, the most promising DSA politician in the entire country, has been forced to fend off attacks from some within the organization who see her as selling out for the mainstream. Ultimately, the DSA movement has to win elections to remain relevant, and I'm not convinced that they're serious enough about making strategic compromises and concessions to succeed at the national level. But of course, the 2026 midterms haven't happened yet. They are fast approaching though, and we will soon have a clearer picture of where DSA and Democratic socialism writ large stands. Republicans unlocked their populist movement ten years ago, and the conditions today are ripe for an equal and opposite reaction from the other side of the aisle. Over the next few months we'll better understand whether the Mamdanis and the Ramans and the Valdez's were canaries in the coal mine or deep blue outliers.
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Isaac Saul
We'll be right back after this quick break.
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Will Kaback
All right, that is it for my take. I'm gonna hand it back over to John to take us home on today's pod and we'll talk to you tomorrow. John, over to you.
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John Law
Thanks, Will. Here's your under the radar story for today, folks. Between 2023 and 2025, the Drug Enforcement Administration allowed hundreds of thousands of fentanyl pills to enter New Mexico despite surveilling the shipments. According to a recent investigation by the Associated Press, current and former agents said the lack of seizure was part of a tactic to bring bigger criminal cases against fentanyl traffickers. The DEA responded to the allegations in a statement saying the investigative decisions at issue were lawful, reasonable under the circumstances, and consistent with department guidance. The investigation also unearthed changes made to the DEA's fentanyl policy in 2024 that gave agents more discretion in deciding whether to seize pills or preserve an investigation. That same year, the Justice Department's Office of Professional Responsibility found that the DEA and the U.S. attorney's office in Action regarding unseized drugs posed no specific danger to public health. While overdose Deaths dropped roughly 14% nationwide last year, they rose by nearly 23% in New Mexico. The Associated Press has this story and there's a link in today's episode description. And last but not least, our have a nice day story. It had been over 20 years since the Arsenal's men's soccer team won a Premier League title. This year, they won 100 miles down the road, over a thousand equines who know nothing about soccer recently started repping Arsenal gear. The team donated footless socks from their old kits the Red Wings Horse Sanctuary, which cares for horses, mules and donkeys to protect them from insects, keeping bandages in place and hold back their hair while their hooves are trimmed. This was one of the more unusual donations we've been offered, nicola Knight, Red Wing's head of communications and campaign, said. But professional football socks, which these days are often footless by design, can be invaluable. Nice News has this story and there's a link in today's episode description. Alright everybody, that is it for today's episode. As always, if you'd like to support our work, Please go to retangle.com where you can sign up for a newsletter membership, podcast membership or a bundled membership that gets you a discount on both. We'll be right back here tomorrow for Isaac, Will and the rest of the crew. This is John Law signing signing off. Have a great day, y'.
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Jonathan Fields
All.
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John Law
Peace.
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Isaac Saul
Our Executive editor and founder is me, Isaac Saul and our Executive producer is John Wall. Today's episode was edited and engineered by Dewey Thomas. Our editorial staff is led by Managing Editor Ari Weitzman with Senior Editor Will Kaback and Associate editors Audrey Moorhead, Lindsey Knuth and Bailey Saul. Music for the podcast was produced by Diance75. To learn more about Tangle and to sign up for a membership, please visit our website@retangle.com.
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