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Isaac Saul (1:39)
Jeffrey Epstein has been one of the most requested topics for us here at Tangle to cover. And I've been thinking a lot about how to best cover this controversial, complicated, long, deep story for a very long time. And what I came up with was bringing on two journalists who have been looking at this story through very, very different lenses. So today we're bringing to you a two part podcast and YouTube special, our kind of mega episode on the Jeffrey Epstein story. And the two guests we're bringing on today are Michael Tracy and Tara Palmieri. Michael Tracy is an independent journalist. Tara Palmieri is an independent journalist. Both Michael Tracy and Tara Palmeri have been looking at the Epstein story for many, many years. And both of them have really distinct views on this issue, as you're about to see. If I could describe them, just briefly, I would say Michael Tracy is somebody who is very skeptical and worried about the way the Epstein story has percolated in pop culture. He believes there is a mass hysteria equivalent to something like the Salem witch trials that is kind of taking over everybody's brains and making it very hard for them to think about these accusations and this story in a rational way. And he's doing a lot of work in his journalism to try and push back on some of the mainstream narratives and the assumptions that a lot of people are making. Tara Palmeri, also an independent journalist, is somebody who has been doing her best to elevate the stories of the women who have accused Jeffrey Epstein of assault. She's been pushing back on what she describes as a manosphere narrative from people like Michael Tracy, who she thinks are trying to rewrite the Jeffrey Epstein story and trying to downplay the crimes and the nature of the crimes that he's both been accused of and been convicted of. So I brought them both onto the podcast, and I interviewed them separately. I did that for a few reasons. One, I didn't want to do a debate show. I didn't want to bring them on and have to intervene while they were arguing with each other, yell, yelling at each other. The two of them have appeared on shows before, like Piers Morgan. You can go watch that if you want. I didn't think it was particularly productive. I also interviewed them independently because I wanted to be able to just give them time to tell their version of events, to tell the stories that they've come across in their reporting, to focus the conversation in the way that they felt it was important to focus. To me, this felt like the best way to bring some balance to our reporting here at Tangle. Finally, I just want to say something about my particular interview style. When I'm doing interviews like this, on a story like this, on a topic like this in this particular context, I'm not coming trying to fight. You'll see moments in both the Michael Tracy interview and the Terror Paul Mary interview where things maybe get a little bit testy, or could get a little bit testy, or there's a moment where maybe there's an opportunity for it to become a confrontation, or for me to push back really hard, harder to dig in or to espouse my views. I try not to do that. I don't think that is my job in this particular context. There are plenty of journalism contexts where that is my job. If you listen to this podcast, you follow this YouTube channel, you read our newsletter, you hear my opinion every single day. That's not what this was about. I wanted to inform my audience by sharing the stories that these journalists have uncovered. And frankly, I'm not an expert on the Epstein files. It's something my audience has requested me to cover a bunch. And I've certainly spent a lot of time reading about this story and looking at some of the files myself. But I have not spent nearly the time these two journalists have on fleshing them out. So I'm excited to bring these interviews to you. Part one is Michael Tracy, who you're going to hear talk about the things he's worried about, the way the story is being reported and the hysteria he's worried about surrounding the story.