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This is Tangle. Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening and welcome to the Tangle Podcast, the place where you get views from across the political spectrum. Some independent thinking in a little bit of our take. I'm your host for TODAY managing editor Ari Weitzman, and I'm giving you a lot of my take. Today I'm going to be talking about the Winter Olympics. Some of the reflections that I had from watching it, from the athletes who competed for our country and the controversy that surrounded the Olympic men's hockey team. I don't really have anything else to talk about today other than that, so I'm going to dive right into it. This piece is written in three parts, so let's start with part one, Sports in America. Ever since I was a little kid, I've loved even numbered years because I absolutely love the Olympics. They combine my two truest boyhood passions Sports and America I was a sports obsessed little Pittsburgh kid when I was nine, I won a contest at a local video rental store ahead of Super Bowl XXX by correctly identifying the first points the Steelers ever scored in super bowl as a blocked punt SA safety. Before I even entered junior high, I'd been to several dozen Penn State football games with my dad and probably about a dozen wrestling meets. I can still name the five Pittsburgh Penguins who won gold medals with what was then called the Czech Republic at the 1998 Nagano Olympics. Jamir Jagr, Marty Straka, Yuri Slager, Robert Lang and Jan Hordena, as well as each of their jersey numbers 68, 82, 71, 20 and 38 respectively. No need to fact check me, I promise. That's right. I also remember being starstruck when I got to be a ball boy for a Team USA soccer game in Hershey and I actually got to feed the legendary Mia Hamm for a throw in. As a small Editor's note here it came to my attention during fact checking that Joseph Baranic played eight games of the Penguins in 1998. I stand by my comments. I was also a very patriotic youngster. My first favorite toy was a puzzle map of the United States. In third grade, I cried in class when they showed us a video about Arlington National Cemetery that ended with a mont set to Lee Greenwood's God Bless the usa. In fourth grade, I went through a serious American flag phase. My school photo that year was me in an American flag sweater against an American flag backdrop, and I chose both of those things. A part of me still enjoys these boyhood passions today. I still coach the University of Vermont's Men's Ultimate Frisbee Team in my, I guess, spare time while in my day job with tango. I'm elbow deep every day in US Politics. But as I got older, those interests became a little more huge and complicated. With experience, I went from using athletic feats to push me to be the best version of myself as an athlete to reflecting on how these achievements can inspire me to be a better leader. My sense of patriotism became even more complicated. Your concept of a nation can become tangled up over time with your idea of governance and then confused further with how people you disagree with exalt ideas you don't share. For me, what America means and what the flag symbolizes became piled under layers and layers of complexity. I still love America. I still love the flag. But it's hard not to express that without being at least a little bit ironic. For example, the most recent picture I have of myself posing with an American flag is from 10 years ago and it was taken a photo shoot with my then puppy. And it was a little ironic to say the least. But still, this is a story about the uncomplicated, childish sincerity I feel about America and about sports and how every even numbered year I get licensed to express that sincere, boyish love I feel for both of those things without worrying if I'll come across as naive or ironic.
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Part 2 the Glory of Alyssa Lou I've talked about the Olympics with Isaac and Camille on suspension of the rules the past two weeks, and something that Isaac and I both loved about this year's Games was how uncomplicated patriotic fervor seemed to be contagious. Here are just a few of the storylines from the Olympics this year that were really rewarding for me to follow the first ever mixed doubles curling team of Corey Thiesse and Corey Dropkin or the Coreys won silver. Ryan Cochrane Siegel, who won silver in Super G, is the son of a gold medal winner and his family gives their name to the little hill down the road road from me in rural Vermont, where all the kids in the area learned to ski. Another skier, Michaela Shiffrin, rebounded from a traumatic crash a few years ago. The loss of her father and her mother's cancer diagnosis to win gold in slalom. Then, of course, Snoop Dogg was our country's charming, lighter than air ambassador throughout the Games, showing genuine interest in the sports and the northern Italian setting all Olympiad long. There's something fun and entertaining in these stories, but there's something powerful in them too. Sports offer a popular dramatic narrative for much the same reason as the best reality TV shows or even political stories do. These are actual people, the stakes are real, and we can learn actual, real lessons from the obstacles they had to overcome to accomplish their goals. The Coreys modeled good communication and composure under pressure. Brian Cochran Siegel was successful in part because he had pedigree, an interest and access to pursuing that interest. From a young age. Mikaela Shiffrin demonstrated the power of perseverance. The lessons we can learn from the people who lost are even more powerful. Figure skater Ilya Malinin showed how real the pressure of expectations can be, and his willingness to admit failure was honest and noble. Figure skater Amber Glenn showed an almost unthinkable amount of tenacity in her response to her own failure. Putting it all out there after defeat was almost all but assured, very nearly reaching the podium because of it than showing incredible sportsmanship and defeat. And all the while, uncomplicated opinions like these were the only ones I could find. For all the worrying about our national standing leading up to the Olympics, I read nothing and saw no hand wringing about American boorishness in Milan. Meanwhile, our athletes seemed to be putting politics aside and striving to be the best they could be and supporting their teammates doing the same. The only exception to that was the brief kerfuffle over freestyle skier Hunter Hess, saying he had mixed emotions representing the United, and that died down pretty fast. Hess described his mixed emotions by saying, the flag doesn't represent everything that happens in America, and he's proud to represent his friends and family back home. Not really super provocative stuff. The whole Games offered such a welcome respite. It felt like we were all in this together as a country, sharing the same childlike love of sports in America, cheering our best on to greatness. That apolitical love fest crescendoed after four and a half minutes from Alyssa Liu. I don't know of a single person who watched Alyssa Liu skate and wasn't in some way moved. Here was a young woman, only 20 years old, who had already experienced the full narrative arc with the sport of figure skating that most people never experience with their chosen pursuits in their whole lives. The junior champion at age 12, the first American woman to land a quadruple jump in competition, a world bronze medalist as a teenager, an Olympian, then a retiree after years of pressure and drilling and expectations before she could even legally vote. And then the comeback after she had a fun ski trip with friends, Lou decided to try skating again to see if getting back on the ice might be fun too. She returned to compete on her own terms for the pure thrill and joy of skating, and she was simply effervescent. Lou was apparent bliss embodying a magnetic, singular joy attached only to the moment. I don't know if you've seen pictures of her from competing, but they're pretty moving. You can see expressions on her face where she's just enthralled that are meant for nobody. The judges can't see her. She's just looking up at the ceiling, purely in peace in the moment. It's pretty incredible to watch in the political tribes they each rush the claimer. Lou's father is a Chinese dissident and she appealed to many on the right as well as the left as a sort of anti Eileen Gu, the Stanford grad who grew up in the US but competed for China. Lou's also a UCLA student with an alternative piercing and hairstyle, and so she appealed to many on the left but also the right as a lefty who didn't make her beliefs her identity. Then I watched as both sides seemed to lay down their arms and feel no need to make her a token of their ideologies. Alyssa Liu is an American champion. She's happy, she's healthy, she's unique, and she's one of us. She drew acclaim from the Japanese public and we loved her for that. She drew bitterness from Russian critics and we loved her for that too. Those critics called her out for being overweight, unbelievable, and too carefree. I mean, you've gotta be kidding me. Her Zen like detachment offering a poignant antithesis to the Russian style of female figure skating. Training, deprivation, suffering, sacrifice and sorry, but let's face it, not being allowed to compete because of systemic abuses. Every story needs a villain and it seemed like maybe the callous response from a few Russ provided that villain. Or maybe the professional rivals we have across the border would provide the final boss in the form of two world class hockey teams. Part three the Joke
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Host: Ari Weitzman (Managing Editor), with contributions from Isaac Saul
Date: February 27, 2026
In this Friday edition of Tangle, Ari Weitzman reflects on the meaningful intersection of sports and patriotism, focusing on the recent Winter Olympics and the sincere, collective joy they inspire among Americans. He explores his own lifelong relationship with sports, the evolving complexities of patriotism, and moments when sporting achievements transcend political divisions. The episode spotlights individual athlete stories, including a notably moving discussion on figure skater Alyssa Liu, to illustrate how sports can momentarily re-unite a polarised nation.
[01:39–07:12]
A Childhood Love of Sports and Patriotism:
"They combine my two truest boyhood passions: Sports and America. I was a sports obsessed little Pittsburgh kid..." – Ari Weitzman [01:53]
Early Symbols of Patriotism:
"In third grade, I cried in class when they showed us a video about Arlington National Cemetery that ended with a montage set to Lee Greenwood's God Bless the USA." – Ari Weitzman [03:30]
Growing Complexity:
"My sense of patriotism became even more complicated. Your concept of a nation can become tangled up over time with your idea of governance and then confused further with how people you disagree with exalt ideas you don't share." – Ari Weitzman [04:40]
[07:12–12:50]
Uncomplicated National Pride During the Olympics:
"There's something powerful in them too. Sports offer a popular dramatic narrative for much the same reason as the best reality TV shows or even political stories do." – Ari Weitzman [08:56]
Character and Lessons from Athletes:
Figure Skater Alyssa Liu as an American Icon:
"Then I watched as both sides seemed to lay down their arms and feel no need to make her a token of their ideologies. Alyssa Liu is an American champion. She's happy, she's healthy, she's unique, and she's one of us." – Ari Weitzman [11:15]
The Power of Shared National Moments:
"The whole Games offered such a welcome respite. It felt like we were all in this together as a country, sharing the same childlike love of sports in America, cheering our best on to greatness." – Ari Weitzman [10:50]
On the Olympics as a respite:
"For all the worrying about our national standing leading up to the Olympics, I read nothing and saw no hand wringing about American boorishness in Milan." – Ari Weitzman [10:20]
On Alyssa Liu's impact:
"She returned to compete on her own terms for the pure thrill and joy of skating, and she was simply effervescent... She's just looking up at the ceiling, purely in peace in the moment. It's pretty incredible to watch." – Ari Weitzman [09:45]
On nonpartisan unity:
"Those critics called her out for being overweight, unbelievable, and too carefree. I mean, you've gotta be kidding me. Her Zen-like detachment offering a poignant antithesis to the Russian style... Every story needs a villain and it seemed like maybe the callous response from a few Russians provided that villain." – Ari Weitzman [11:59]
This summary captures the heart and flow of Ari Weitzman's Olympic reflections on Tangle, offering a concise yet comprehensive guide for anyone who missed the episode.