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Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening, and welcome to the Tango Podcast, a place where you get views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking, and a little bit of my take. Today is our big 2025 annual review of what we got right and wrong. We do this every year in the first Friday edition after the new year where we go back and we review a bunch of takes from the previous year. This year was special because I was out for paternity leave in the beginning of the year, so we had different writers on the team writing the MyTake section. We introduced the staff Dissent section this year and also throughout the year we just had different people reviewing different issues and writing their own personal analysis. It wasn't just me on the my take. So you're going to hear some different voices today on the podcast. There's so much ground to cover. We review about 25 different takes, so it's not just me reading it. We've had some diversification of the voices on the show, which I'm excited about. And before we jump in, I want to be clear about why we do this, one of the things I loathe most about the media is that there's just no accountability. This lack of accountability, it extends beyond media spaces. It pervades society from the halls of Congress to the executive offices of our biggest corporations. And I think accountability is a big part of what the media is missing right now. So in an attempt to live out that value, I started this tradition where we just review what we got right and wrong and grade ourselves, literally grade the work that we've done. We did this in 2021, 2022, 2023, and we did a two parter in 2024, which we're doing again this year. So the way this is going to work is we're going to go back, revisit a story that we covered, tell you the date we covered it, read an excerpt from what our take was at the time, whoever wrote the piece, and then we're going to reflect on the take we wrote and then give ourselves a letter grade from A to F, and then we add those grades up at the end and do a little gpa. So the way we choose the stories is not cherry picking the ones we did really well. This year, we did happen to do really well. We ended up with the best grade of any of the years we've had, which I'm super thrilled about. I think it's just a product of the incredible editorial team we've built, but we picked stories to review based on the ones that, looking back on the year, were the big stories of the year. And so that's just generally how we're choosing what to revisit, the ones that really drove a lot of reader feedback or permeated the conversation in a way that felt really meaningful. All right, with that, we have a ton to cover. This is going to be a long episode, but I hope it's worth it. And we're going to kick things off with something I wrote about Pete Hegseth's confirmation hearing and then the Signal Chat controversy, which were additions from January 15 and March 31. So in January, we covered Pete Hegseth's confirmation hearing with a skeptical tone about his readiness for the job. In March, we revisited that take after Hegseth shared war plans in a Signal group chat that included Jeffrey Goldberg, the editor in chief of the Atlantic. Here's what I wrote after his confirmation quote. As I've said in the past, we as Americans have been remarkably safe in the post 911 era from foreign threats, and we are totally unaware of how Good. We have it here in the US Our soldiers are in about as little danger as they've ever been in my lifetime. We're pulling back from many major conflicts, and the vast majority of the issues facing our Department of Defense involve wasteful spending, inventory issues, shaky leadership, and the fact we are falling behind on advanced military technology. I don't see any reason to believe that Hegseth, who has a leader of several smaller, less complicated organizations, has been followed by allegations of poor leadership, disorganization, sexual misconduct, poor financial management, and drunkenness, is the right person to solve these issues. And after the signal controversy, I wrote the most disappointing part about the entire spectacle is that there's been no accountability. This administration has made meritocracy a central point of its entire ethos. President Trump repeatedly and rightly criticized President Biden on the campaign trail for not firing anyone for major mistakes in his administration like the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal. Hegseth, whose mantle of meritocracy was always something I was skeptical of, has completely dodged any ownership of how bad this looks. Will the administration pay for this politically? It seems unlikely. If you watch a few minutes of Fox News's coverage of the story, you get the sense that much of Trump's base won't have to grapple with the seriousness of what happened. All right, reflecting on this, I feel pretty good about this one, Hegseth's first year has been marred by controversies, constant leadership shakeups in the military and fresh military engagements. It's been rocky in many of the ways I expected it to be, and we now have a more aggressive military with soldiers more in danger than we did a few months ago. Yet I do give him credit on three counts. One, he made some waste cutting reforms. Though small in the grand scheme, they amounted to more than $5 billion of cuts to contracts, grants, et cetera. Two, I genuinely did not expect him to last through 2025, but I never made that prediction publicly. And three, we've had two high profile military engagements, Iran and Venezuela, that were tactical successes, which is really his job. I will note on Venezuela that Hegseth spoke passionately just a few weeks ago about the end of regime change and feckless nation building and then carried out these strikes and capture of Maduro. But still, my point has always been that Hegseth was the wrong person to address the actual problems. The military has wasteful spending, inventory issues, shaky leadership, and the risk putting our relatively safe soldiers into more danger. The Pentagon just failed its eighth straight audit and it's not clear to me what hegseth plans to do about it. At the same time, we're now witnessing a military buildup around Venezuela. We just had two National Guard soldiers killed in Syria, and we seem poised for more military entanglements in the Western Hemisphere. So our grade for this take is a B minus. All right, next up is the Israel Hamas ceasefire deal and the Israel Hamas peace plan, which we cover January 16th and then October. In January we covered the ceasefire deal negotiated between Israel and Hamas. The agreement was designed to end the war through a three phase process that included the return of hostages, disarming of Hamas, and a total removal of Israeli forces from Gaza and a Gaza reconstruction plan. Here's an excerpt from my take from that piece. I wish I could tell you this war is over, but I can't. The hard part doesn't start until the first stage is completed. Negotiations for phase two will begin on the 16th day of phase one and will require Hamas to coordinate the release of all its remaining living hostages and Israel to commit to a lasting peace and total withdrawal from Gaza. We are a long way out from a more secure future. This agreement in many ways is a baby step. Sadly, even that small step is off to an inauspicious start. In October, months after that peace plan had fallen apart, we covered another Israel Hamas peace plan. This one Hamas and Israel both eventually agreed to. I wrote in support of the fundamentals of the 20 point plan and then said this. To be here now almost feels unbelievable. I am swimming in skepticism. We had a multi phase deal earlier this year that never came to fruition and Israel was still striking locations in Gaza over the weekend. I'm just waiting for the news that some agreed upon condition has been violated, that some bad actor dynamites this agreement, that some part of the progress was misreported. But I'm tentatively hopeful that we may finally have a light at the end of the tunnel. All right, so reflecting on this piece. I mean, hope springs eternal, but it can also die quietly. I try to maintain my optimism, but it's hard to Both sides have leveled credible accusations about the other side violating the ceasefire, but Israel's violations have been plainly more egregious and violent. One single day of strikes in late October killed over 100 civilians and militants after Israel said Hamas killed an Israeli soldier near the Rafah border. For context, about 151 Israeli soldiers died in all of 2025, and around half of those died in accidents, various diseases or suicide, that is not in combat. In other words, Israel killed more people in Gaza in a single day after the ceasefire than Israeli soldiers died in combat in all of 2025. At the same time, terrorist attacks in Israel have begun anew, while with all eyes on the tenuous ceasefire in Gaza, Israeli extremists are continuing to escalate land grabs in the west bank, squeezing Palestinians into small, smaller enclaves across the region. It's all so ugly, so desperate, so horrifying that most of the world has simply moved on. Tangle has not covered the war since the October peace plan was announced, in large part due to how the story has faded into the background amid other major international news items. As it stands today, Hamas has now returned all but one of the hostages alive or their remains. This was always a key focus of ending the war and a critical demand from the Israeli government and Israeli citizens, something I've supported in Tangle. Yet the strikes, clashing and violence continues. Israel has not left the Strip. It still controls 53% of Gaza per the first phase of the ceasefire deal. Soldiers still roam the streets, drones still infiltrate every part of Gazan life, and the so called yellow line that demarcates military zones has been expanding. In short, for all intents and purposes, there is no ceasefire in Gaza. My skepticism in January was warranted, as it was in October, and I'm despondent enough now that I can hardly fathom a realistic sounding solution. Our grade for this piece was a B. We'll be right back after this quick break.
