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Will K Back (7:04)

Over the last few weeks, debates over these amendments have not merely been academic, but instead have been placed at the forefront of American society. President Donald Trump, in pursuit of his promise to reduce illegal immigration to the United States, has been stretching his executive authority as far as he can. His orders target immigrants of various stripes, violent criminals here illegally, student protesters here on green cards or student visas, and legal immigrants with no criminal record or any other apparent cause for deportation. Consider a sampling of the cases that have sparked debate. First is Mahmoud Khalil, a Palestinian graduate student here on a green card who was arrested by ICE for alleged pro Hamas activity. Weeks later, he's still sitting in a Louisiana detention center 1,400 miles away from his wife, and no charges have been brought against him, possibly in the same facility, although eerily we don't know for sure. Is Rumesia Ozturk, a Fulbright scholar arrested in Boston by six masked ICE agents for allegedly acting in support of Hamas? The action that prompted her arrest was an op ed she wrote for her college newspaper that, at its most brazen, called for US Divestment from Israel. The cases don't get stronger from there. Iranian doctoral student Alireza Daroudi was rounded up under the guise of national security, but the government has not produced any evidence that he's ever even participated in a protest. Eduardo Nunez Gonzalez is a business owner with a clean record here on a legal work permit and married to a US Citizen. He was arrested while taking out the trash. Baker Neri Alvarado was sent to an El Salvador prison, and the probable cause for his deportation was a tattoo promoting autism awareness in honor of his 15 year old brother. Perhaps most notable of all is Kilmar Abrego Garcia. Abrego Garcia's story burst onto the national scene this week after the Atlantic ran a piece on the Trump administration inadvertently deporting a, quote, Maryland father to a prison in El Salvador in 2019. Abrego Garcia had been granted an order blocking his deportation to his home country of El Salvador due to threats on his life. The Trump administration cited a, quote, administrative error for his deportation, and now it says it has no way to get him back from the prison. Now, much about Abrego Garcia's story is sympathetic. He has no criminal record. He's married to an American citizen. He is the father to a disabled and autistic child. He is a union sheet metal worker. And he regularly checked in with Immigrations and Custom Enforcement as he was supposed to. But his case is also complicated. He crossed the border illegally in 2012, and in 2019, he was accused of being a member of Ms. 13, an accusation an immigration judge affirmed. He only claimed to be fleeing violence in El Salvador after being arrested and facing deportation in 2019, and he still was eligible for removal, just not to El Salvador. While he regularly checked in with ice, he has reportedly skipped several court appearances for traffic violations. Now, each of the examples above of immigrants being removed from the country touches on a complex gray area of the law, from the use of the Alien Enemies act to the differences in the rights of green card holders versus student visa holders. The most salient open question, however, is the rights that unauthorized migrants have in the United States. The left is keen to cite conservative icon Antonin Scalia, who famously wrote that it is well established that the Fifth Amendment entitles aliens to due process of law in deportation proceedings, end quote. On the other hand, the federal government has successfully argued in a few notable Supreme Court cases that limited judicial review for expedited removal of non citizens does not violate due process laws. These debates are important and fraught and will surely impact the future of immigration law. But the deeper conflict is less about legal theory and more a fundamental difference in philosophy. Some people believe that noncitizens in America deserve due process, and others believe they don't. That's really it. That's the heart of the debate. And if you're interested in where I stand, I'm firmly in the camp of people who believe that everyone on American soil, regardless of immigration status, accusation or circumstance, must be given the benefits of due process, however costly and sometimes impractical or inconvenient it might be. The deportation of Abrego Garcia to El Salvador provides a great reason why the question of whether Garcia was legally removable is not really in doubt. The federal government had legal grounds to deport him. The larger issue is that the court was clear that he should have been protected from deportation to El Salvador, the country he claims to have fled because of risk from gang members. And now, of course, the administration has placed him inside of prison.

John Law (12:16)

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